SHOCKING AUDIO: MAN SHOOTS BURGLARS AFTER 9-1-1 DISPATCHER PLEADS WITH HIM NOT TO!!!


 







November 16, 2007. One of MediaTakeOut.com's faithful readers named Tarik Williams sent us this shocking audo. In it a man is heard shooting too unarmed burglars. Apparently, the man is not being arrested.

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    mistiblue
    Yeah...that happened here in Houston and it is very disturbing to hear. The guy could have stayed his a$$ in the house and waited. He was in no danger.
     

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    phaTpuSiFoYaMOuf
    they not arresting him??? what?? oh hell no this is cuz hes white.. if he was black he'd be put under the jail, this is pure rasict bussShh the men wa un armed... cum onnn
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    SherRoyal
    NOT TO...NOT, NOT TOO.SMH
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    natedogg
    yeah that was in Houston well really Pasadena but they are waiting to present the case to the DA but he's not going to get into any trouble. That's how they do down here.
     

    missingtupac
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    soulsangr
    of course they won't arrest him..but LO if it were the other way around....damn [EXPLETIVE], i SWEAR!!!
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    mixedchick
    I'm PROUD of him, he's a true neighbor! If more people would stand up for what's right and stop that asinine thought of "it's not me, so I dont care" then situations like this would not happen.

    I commend his actions and quite frankly, I wish I was his neighbor!
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    mistiblue
    @ natedogg

    you know that is especially how they get down in Pasadena!
     

    strongblackwoman
    man that dude sound like he just wanted target practice....

    mixedchick you need help cuz if this the case what do we need cops for? all he could have done was scared them with the gun or even shot them in the leg but obviously this man aimed to kill!
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    ReggieBushGirl
    Pasadena homeowner this afternoon fatally shot two men he believed were burglarizing his neighbor's house, police said.

    About 2 p.m., the homeowner in the Village Grove East subdivision heard noises he thought sounded like broken glass, said Capt. A.H. "Bud" Corbett, with the Pasadena Police Department. The man determined the noise was coming from next door.

    The man, who police have not identified, knew the owner of the house in the 7400 block of Timberline Drive was not home, and that the noise could possibly be a burglary, Corbett said. The man then called police to inform them he thought his neighbor's house was being burglarized.

    The man then saw two men coming through a gate in the backyard of the neighbor's house.

    "He confronted them with a shotgun," Corbett said, and asked them to stop. They did not and he fired two shots, striking each man once, Corbett said.

    One man was found dead about two houses from where the reported burglary occurred. The other was found dead across the street, Corbett said.

    Police are interviewing the homeowner.

    A window in the back of the neighbor's house was broken, Corbett said.

    Lacey Hernandez, who lives across the street from the shooting, was home this afternoon when she heard two loud pops, but didn't know what the noise was. About that time, she was on her way to pick up her children from school. As she was leaving, she saw the yellow crime scene tape.

    "I was in shock because I never heard a gunshot before," Hernandez said.

    She described the neighborhood as very quiet. Two-story homes with trees in the front yard dot the street.

    "We leave our garage door open," she said."We let the kids run the streets just like nothing.

    "Now they will not be playing in the streets
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    carliss123
    oooook I'm going to be truthful here. Yes you can tell he's ared neck HILLBILLY, and he wanted to shoot them. He had no business going outside and bothering them. He was dead wrong for coming back to the phone saying he didn't have a choice and wasn't sure what they were going to do. HOWEVER...them negroes (AND I'M BLACK MYSELF)had no DAMN BUSINESS breaking into ANYBODY'S HOUSE RANSACKING AND TAKING [EXPLETIVE] THAT WASN'T THIERES!!!!! My home is very nice and I have expensive [EXPLETIVE] in my place too.....I would have been glad if he got them in the foot or leg (just to get them down and caught. I feel NO SYMPATHY for BLACK, WHITE, YELLOW, IT DON"T DAMN MATTER THE COLOR. I must say that MOST of are not rich, we work DAMN hard for everything we have and then you got GARBAGE LIKE THOSE 2 GUYS that want the easy way. Hell I wanna be able to lay on my azz until I feel like getting up, then lay around and watch TV all day, and still be able to go out and get whatever it is I want...BUT REALITY IS I HAVE TO WORK FOR MY [EXPLETIVE]!!!!! And I give all the time to homeless (hell a homeless guy got MY LAST $10 the other day cause I didn't have change and I fugured he needed it WAAAAAY more than I)....But don't take nothing from me!!!!! Sorry peeps but it is what it is.....PLUS you know them pale azz country hillbiliies already trigger happy, why give them a reason?
     

    yeah-ok
    His ass need to join the police force since he want to shoot somebody so damn bad.commend him for calling it in but to anxious to want to take it in his own hands.
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    b_mun_e
    where is the outrage? the mass outrage? where's the media focus? MTO, why wasn't this story the headline??

    instead of killing the burglars, the neighbor should have made sure he knew what they looked like, what they were wearing, and what they were driving. killing someone over property that didn't even belong to him was senseless and callous.

    he shot those men like they were animals. he thinks he has the moral high road because he was looking out for his neighbor's property. however, killer's calculation and lack of remorse makes me sad that the world we live in has degrade to such a base level that we care about replaceable THINGS and not irreplaceable LIVES.
     

    strongblackwoman
    B_MUN_E I AGREE
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    mixedchick
    Thanks Carliss...

    Maybe you guys would love a description after these retards have pawned away all of your hard earned possessions.

    Our home was broken into 2 years ago and it devistated my mother and myself. You could still smell the stinch of that person after he/she left. You feel violated and scared at the slightest sound. So dont tell me that I'm wrong in my feelings. You don't know WHAT they would have done had someone been home or even left their 10 y/o home until they got off work.

    I thank GOD that people are lucky enough to have neighbors who care.
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    mixedchick
    Thanks Carliss...

    Maybe you guys would love a description after these retards have pawned away all of your hard earned possessions.

    Our home was broken into 2 years ago and it devistated my mother and myself. You could still smell the stinch of that person after he/she left. You feel violated and scared at the slightest sound. So dont tell me that I'm wrong in my feelings. You don't know WHAT they would have done had someone been home or even left their 10 y/o home until they got off work.

    I thank GOD that people are lucky enough to have neighbors who care.
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    babybro_901
    my opinion.....



    by no means am i condoning burgulary or any crime.....but damn!!!! he didnt have to kill them! he could have held them there until the police came!!! i would feel different if they were in his house....then by all means...kill em!!!! but this could have been avoided!! i mean he sat on tha phone and told tha dispatcher that he was gonna kill them! thats senseless!! i always try and views all side b4 blaming sum one. this was jus str8 up racist!!! i mean he sat there and told the guys...ur dead!!!! he needs to be punished for what he did!!!! he dosent have the right to hold anyones fate in his hands....no human does!!!!! this is jus ridiculous!!!!!
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    SirAy
    The intruders got what they deserved. If some one unlawfully comes into your home you should not only do that but you should then set fire to them and open their chest....criminals are what they are...animals and should be treated no better than torture.

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    mistiblue
    @ mixedchick

    not many people would have an issue with this if they would have robbed HIS home. We all have the right to defend our OWN homes. He did the right thing by calling the cops, but he went on the wrong side when he left his home to go outside
    with the intent to kill. He told the dispatcher that he was going to do it. There was no need for him to leave his home. The guys were in the wrong for robbing, but the guy was wrong for killing them. Plus, living here in Houston, I know what was on his mind. Pasadena is a very racist hick area. Trust me when I tell you it was more than just him wanting to be a good neighbor. Trust me when I tell you he will brag about it at his "meeting" he attends tonight.

    @ SirAy
    it wasn't his home! It was the neighbor's.
     

    b_mun_e
    i appreciate your sharing, mixed chick. i respectfully disagree. i just don't believe in killing over THINGS. it would be understandable if it was the man's house and he felt his own life and the lives of his family were threatened. key word is "lives."

    we can ask "what if" questions as to the limits of our imaginations. but the facts here are what they are.

    my house was burglarized when i was younger. my family and i were grateful to have each other. my parents bought more stuff. it didn't come right away. they had to do it slowly. sure, they were angry and devastated. we didn't sleep easily for a while. but my feeling is that buying more stuff was a heck of a lot better than mourning a loved one.

    the law doesn't even allow for a homeowner to kill a burglar UNLESS that homeowner's life or the lives of his family members is/are being imminently threatened. the law doesn't allow anyone to just kill.

    also, let's not invoke God here. C'mon people.
     

    mistiblue
    carliss123

    I agree with one of your points...if anyone comes in MY home; me and the hubby will have something waiting on them, but if I see someone robbing my neighbor; the best I can do is call the police.
     

    kattdaddy2
    OF COURSE YOU IGNANT NY66AS IN HERE SUPPORT THESE CRIMINALS !!!! IT'S WHAT NY66AS DO !

    IF THIS WAS AN OLD BLACK MAN WHO SHOT 2 WHITE BOYS, YALL WOULD BE IN HERE GIVIN HIM PROPS !!!

    ROBBONG A HOUSE DOESN'T DESERVE DEATH, BUT WHEN YOU COMMIT CRIMES, THIS IS THE TYPE OF UNFORSEEN "KARMA" TYPE SHYTE THAT HAPPENS TO YOU @SS !

    COME INTO MY HOUSE TRYNA ROB ME AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS TO YOU @SS !!!

    IN TEXAS THEY HAVE A LOWER CRIME RATE, LOW ROBBERIES AND SHYTE !

    WHY ???? BECAUSE GUNS ARE LEGAL, AND LAW-ABIDING CITIZENS HAVE THE RIGHT (THANK GOD) TO BLOW AWAY CRIMINALS THAT THREATEN PEOPLE "OR PROPERTY" !!!

    I DON'T GIVE A SHYTE IF HE WAS A NY66A HATIN REDNECK ! THEM NY66AS WAS ASKIN FOR IT ! THEY HAD NO BUSINESS ROBBIN THAT HOUSE !

    I WILL BET YO @SS A YEARS WORTH OF COUNTY CHECKS THAT NY66AS AIN'T FINNA ROB THAT AREA ANYTIME SOON !
     

    minx
    mixedchick Flag post

    Thanks Carliss...

    Maybe you guys would love a description after these retards have pawned away all of your hard earned possessions.

    Our home was broken into 2 years ago and it devistated my mother and myself. You could still smell the stinch of that person after he/she left. You feel violated and scared at the slightest sound. So dont tell me that I'm wrong in my feelings. You don't know WHAT they would have done had someone been home or even left their 10 y/o home until they got off work.

    I thank GOD that people are lucky enough to have neighbors who care.


    *****

    I understand EXACTLY what you feel about the being in fear and afraid all the time after you've been robbed. I've been there.

    However, this man decided to play the cops, the judge, the lawyer, and GOD in this situation.

    With that shotgun, he could have made them leave the possessions and held them, hell maybe even shoot a fukkin knee cap or two, but to kill them cold blooded??? Give them a chance to be punished, but don't take ULTIMATE punishment into your own human hands.

    The main point is THIS WASNT HIS HOME!! THIS WAS HIS NEIGHBORS! In my home, please believe I will pull out and blast that ass, but a neighbors? Yeah, we look out for each other, but unless his property or life was in imminent danger, the law doesn't cover what he did.

    I would love to beat the fukk outta the b1tches who robbed me at gunpoint. Beat they ass NEAR death though, not kill em....lol
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    mistiblue
    b_mun_e

    I feel you, but I think they have updated the laws a little. One of my student workers was just telling me that if a person does burglarize your home; you can kill because the law states that if they are in your home with the intent to steal from you it means that they are willing to kill you to do so. I'm totally using my own words, but that is the gist of it. It has been extended to cars too.
     

    kattdaddy2
    2 POINTS

    (the law doesn't even allow for a homeowner to kill a burglar UNLESS that homeowner's life or the lives of his family members is/are being imminently threatened. the law doesn't allow anyone to just kill. )

    BULLSHYTE ! IN TEXAS THEY ALLOW YOU TO SHOOT TO PROTECT LIFE "AND PROPERTY".

    SECOND - I DON'T GIVE A SHYTE IF IT WASN'T HIS HOUSE ! THESE NY66AS FLIRTED WITH DANGER WHEN THEY DECIDED TO ROB THIS HOUSE, AND THAT'S WHAT THEY GET, TOO BAD.

    DO I FEEL SORRY FOR THEM ? SURE, BUT I AIN'T LOSING SLEEP OVER IT. I AIN'T ROBBIN NOBODY'S HOUSE, SO I REALLY DON'T CARE WHAT HAPPENS TO MUFFUKKAS WHO ROB HOUSES !

    GET A JOB BYTCH !
     

    barebody
    Served these daymn crooks right.... he should have emptied the entire revolver in their stealing asses.....ppl work too hard to get someWhere in life and some lazy ass person that dont want to work... want to come by and take all what you work hard for... Bravo to you White man
     

    DetroitPlaya
    His country as$ just couldn't wait to kill someone. I'll bet he ends up charged. He said "Ima kill 'em" on the phone before he ever went outside.

    But if those dumb motherfuckas hadn't been breaking into someone's house, they wouldn't be on a slab.

    This shyt happens here in Detroit all the time.
     

    HUEmanbro
    I figure he was white. Dumb red kneck they always trigga happy.
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    mistiblue
    @ kattdaddy

    I don't think that anyone in here is supporting the idiots that were robbing folks, but many people are stressing the point that the man could have stayed in his house...it was not his home that was being robbed. It was his neighbor. Would you kill for your neighbor?
     

    kattdaddy2
    (With that shotgun, he could have made them leave the possessions and held them, hell maybe even shoot a fukkin knee cap or two, but to kill them cold blooded??? Give them a chance to be punished, but don't take ULTIMATE punishment into your own human hands.)


    Can u read ??? The man told them to stop when he confronted them and they didn't ? They could have given up and I don't think he would have shot them, so what u said is bullshyte !

    Second, the law says you can indeed shoot "fleeing felons". This is why this guy ain't being charged.
     

    HUEmanbro
    mixedchick, seems like a airhead she obviously value material things over people lives.
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    kattdaddy2
    @ mistiblue

    As I said before, I DON'T GIVE A HSYTE IF IT WASN'T HIS HOME. ALL I KNOW IS THESE TO IGNANT/DEAD NY66AS PICKED THE WRONG HOUSE WITH THE WRONG "CONCERNED NEIGHBOR" LIVING NEXT DOOR, AND SHYTE HAPPENS WHEN YOU DECIDE TO ROB PEOPLE.

    EXAMPLE: IF A GUY TRIES TO ROB A BANK, AND THE BANK GAURD KILLS AND INNOCENT BYSTANDER, THE ROBBER IS CHARGED WITH MURDER !

    WHY ? BECAUSE THIS PERSON DIED AS A RESULT OF THE THEIF COMMITTING A CRIME.
     

    barebody
    Served these daymn crooks right.... he should have emptied the entire revolver in their stealing asses.....ppl work too hard to get someWhere in life and some lazy ass person that dont want to work... want to come by and take all what you work hard for... Bravo to you White man
     

    kattdaddy2
    @ HUEmanbro

    (mixedchick, seems like a airhead she obviously value material things over people lives. )

    uH, i'M SORRY, but when you choose to commit a burglary, u are taking a gamble with your life, so obviously it must not mean as much to you as mine does to me, if you are willing to risk it like that for something soo stupid ?

    Your life has less value when you gamble with it genius.
     

    mixedchick
    It's amazing that people really think these guys should have just been taken a picture of and just let them go. If this area is so "racist" and "hick" why would they go to that area?

    Why couldn't they just WORK for waht they wanted? Why endanger your own life because you're lazy? How would you feel if it was your home and when you got home your neighbor goes... "Yeah I saw the 2 guys that broke into your home. One looked like this, the other looked like that, but I didn't get a great facial description of either. I called the police but they had already got away."
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    mistiblue
    @ kattdaddy

    Yeah dude all of us in Texas took Political Science and we know that who would be charged in the scenario you just gave. My point is that yes the guys were wrong for running up in someone's house and as a result they paid with their lives. BUT...old boy should have kept his trigger happy @ss in the house. He knew he wanted to blast them in the first place. So why call the cops if you aren't going to allow them to handle it?

    I do agree with you on one thing: no one else will try to rob that area for a minute.
     

    HUEmanbro
    hmmmm katdaddy, I'm sorry but you're not the police and they weren't robbing him they were robbing his neighbors. I guess your life is worth less than a few things. That don't make sense the man who killed them deserved to go to jail for premediatted murder. I can't believe how dumb people are on this site.
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    babybro_901
    @kattdaddy2.....

    sounds to me that you are a bit racist urself huh?? neways to each its own.....but i can bet u that if u were face to face with a black person in the....lets say...the sharpstown mall, you wouldn't be calling them the N word to their face!!! these keyboard gangsters are hilarious!!!! man....this is getting away from the topic at hand!!! i cant stand ignorant ass racist ppl!!!!! grow up!!!!!
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    minx
    kattdaddy2 Flag post

    (With that shotgun, he could have made them leave the possessions and held them, hell maybe even shoot a fukkin knee cap or two, but to kill them cold blooded??? Give them a chance to be punished, but don't take ULTIMATE punishment into your own human hands.)


    Can u read ??? The man told them to stop when he confronted them and they didn't ? They could have given up and I don't think he would have shot them, so what u said is bullshyte !

    Second, the law says you can indeed shoot "fleeing felons". This is why this guy ain't being charged.
    *****

    While you fukkin analyzing what the fukk everybody else says, b1tch why don't you try really listening to the audio. I live in Houston so we been hearing this sh1t all day long on the radio.

    The man said one line to the robbers "Move. You're dead." And not even 4 seconds later, they were already shot dead.

    Hey, I'm all for punishing dirty no G.E.D. havin b1tches for stealing people sh1t, but come on now, it's obvious this man wanted to kill before he even picked up the phone to dial 911. Point blank? NEITHER HIS LIFE NOR HIS PROPERTY WAS IN IMMINENT DANGER. His ass could have stayed in the house like he had BEEN doing that whole time. Cops were seconds away after their lives were taken. They prolly didn't even know he existed, and weren't headed to his sh1t.
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    MsDominance
    I agree 100% wit babybro_901
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    minx
    DAMN, It's all Houston peeps in here huh?

    HTOWN STAND UP! LOL
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    mistiblue
    @ minx

    you pretty much just said what I have been saying. When I first heard the audio on 97.9 this morning I was shocked!
     

    b_mun_e
    for the record, i believe that the burglars were WRONG. but we can't even get to their "wrongness" because they are dead.

    i applaud ordinary people for taking a stand. i just don't believe that ordinary citizen has the right to override court processes -- no matter how messed up i may think our court systems are.

    what would happen to order? "hill billy" justice is not justice for all.
     

    Honesty24
    FOR SOME REASON THE CLIP WONT PLAY FOR ME, BUT I WILL COMMENT ANYWAY. IF THOSE GUYS (BLACK OR WHITE) WERE NOT BREAKING INTO HIS HOUSE, HE SHOULD HAVE JUST CALLED THE POLICE AND LEFT IT AT THAT. IT'S THE POLICE JOB TO USE DEADLY FORCE (ONLY IF NECESSARY), HE TOOK IT TO THE EXTREME. IF SOMEONE WAS BREAKING INTO MY HOUSE (BLACK OR WHITE) AND I KNEW THEY HAD WEAPONS THEN TWO PEOPLE WOULD BE GETTING DRUG OUT OF MY HOUSE TOO.

    YES, THEY WILL CUT HIM SLACK BECAUSE HE'S WHITE AND I'M NOT SURE IF THESE GUYS WERE BLACK OR NOT, BUT REGARDLESS OF SKIN COLOR, HE WAS IN THE WRONG.

    I CAN'T HELP BUT WONDER THOUGH, WHAT MOST OF YOU WOULD BE SAYING IF THE GUY WAS BLACK AND HAD SHOT TWO WHITE GUYS? HMMMMM? RACISM DOES WORK IN BOTH WAYS. CAN HIS @SS!
     

    Honesty24
    THAT MR. CULKIN PICTURE IS PRICELESS! LOL!
     

    mistiblue
    @honesty24

    It wasn't HIS home! It was a neighbor! That is what we are having the debate over.
     

    mistiblue
    LOL @ honest24

    Yes racism does work both ways. I will be the first to admit that.
     

    teranyka1
    You know what I guess ignorance is bliss. This man under permit killed two men for breaking and entering. He is allowed to premisebly use deadly force when he sees a crime. But, In the same token hes not that good of a neighbor. The way I see it those men were his neighbors too and he should not have shot to kill. If anything when he yelled and waved the gun he could have demanded them to put the "loot" as he called it down. To me he deserves murder 1 whether he likes it or not he is on tape premeditating his murders and he should burn like any other black or white. And for the record if he had been a black man in that neighborhood no he wouldnt be under the jail or even in jail for that matter. He would have been shot dead, and carried away on a body bag just like the two shot.
     

    GMAD20
    This guy deserves to go to jail. No lie...if they were in MY home I would have shot them. But as you heard on the tape the guy really wanted to shoot those robbers. He said on the phone he was going to kill them and before he pulled the trigger he said "your dead"....now when he got back on the phone he sounded all scared n stuff AFTER he had done it. After those dudes was layin down his I wanna kill attitude he had was replaced with fear that was not in his voice before he pulled the trigger. He knows he was wrong just as much as anyone else with common sense does.
     

    flygirlph
    This redneck had too much time on his hands!!
    He probably been waiting all his life for a NI.GGER (Because that's how they say it) to do something to make him mad!!
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    Londyn
    All of you who are saying that these men deserved to be KILLED for this, really need to evaluate your importance of material posessions. I have be burgularized, yes. However, those things were replaced. For some time I did feel unsafe, but I never once wished that my burgular were killed in the act. For all I know, that burgular could've been a 9 year old looking for a thrill. I dont know the circumstances but I do know that sealing doesn't necessary deserve death. Would you think it was justifiable if a store owner killed your 13 year old child because he/she stole a magazine or some candy from from their store? If not, maybe you should reconsider if theys boys (because they were probably kids) should've been killed over some silverware and jewelry. Nontheless by a man who constantly referred to them as N ig gers throughout the entire conversation. You people really need to straighten your priorities.
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    hotdominican
    Well I agree with Caliss123 (I AM BLACK TOO!) I don't care what color you are they had no business breaking into NOBODY'S HOUSE. That is TRESSPASSING and once you tresspass someone property that gives the homeowner to defend himself as one see fit. Hell they had beat up his son or a relative. We going to have chain our doors and $hit to be a little safer now days. We as minority only give the white more power by comitting all theis crimes. Stealing,Killing, Selling drugs, etc. Why not show them that we are better than that by getting an education. I know times are hard, but we can all make it on way or another, there is help, programs and good people that are willing to help this society. MAY GOD BLESS US ALL, SINCE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS WORLD IS BECOMING!
     

    kattdaddy2
    @ mistiblue -

    (old boy should have kept his trigger happy @ss in the house. He knew he wanted to blast them in the first place.)

    Again, whether he was a trigger happy redneck or not is irrelevant. When you proceed to commit burglury, you take your life into your own hands, and whatever happens is YOUR OWN FAULT ! iT IS INDEED MESSED UP THAT THESE GUYS DIED FOR ROBBING A HOUSE, BUT GUESS WHAT !!!

    TOO BAD !!!

    @ HUEmanbro

    (I'm sorry but you're not the police and they weren't robbing him they were robbing his neighbors. I guess your life is worth less than a few things.)

    I agree, life is worth more than material things.....TOO GAWD'AM BAD THEM THEIVES DIDN'T FEEL THE SAME WAY !!! NY66AS IN HERE TALK CRAP ABOUT THIS OLD MAN SHOULD HAVE STAYED IN HIS HOUSE ????

    THESE IGNANT @SS DEAD NY66AS SHOULD HAVE STAYED AT THEIR OWN HOUSE TOO ! FIND YOU A HOOCHIE AND SIP YOUR SIZZURP WHODIE ! YOU PLAY WITH YOUR LIFE, YOU DON' DESERVE THE RIGHT TO KEEP IT.

    @ BABYBRO 901

    (sounds to me that you are a bit racist urself huh?? neways to each its own.....but i can bet u that if u were face to face with a black person in the....lets say...the sharpstown mall, you wouldn't be calling them the N word to their face!!! )

    Gaw'dam right I'm racist ! Against ignant @ss ny66as ! And if a mufukka act a fool in a mall, i'm a call him an ignat @ss nygga ! what the f%@#k do i have to be scared of. I'm old school youngsta, so check yourself !

    @ minx

    (The man said one line to the robbers "Move. You're dead." And not even 4 seconds later, they were already shot dead.)

    Then they @sses shoulda froze !!! They didn't follow orders and got blasted, too gawd'am bad. That's what they get for not listening to the man with the gun. They probably would still be alive.


    Hey, I'm all for punishing dirty no G.E.D. havin b1tches for stealing people sh1t, but come on now, it's obvious this man wanted to kill before he even picked up the phone to dial 911. )

    Who cares if he wanted to kill them ??? If they weren't committing a crime they would be alive somewhere impregnanting some chicken head by now ???

    Again, these theives are the ones that should have "stayed in the house" !!!
     

    mistiblue
    @ kattdaddy

    you are making it extremely hard to keep this conversation civilized. Where did I call him a trigger happy REDNECK? You keep going back to what is relevant and what isn't. The only point of relevance here is that he wasn't in any danger. If he was; I would be the first one to say "good for him", but this is not the case. Besides, you still haven't answered my question...would you kill for your neighbor?
     

    B1349
    I'm a police officer and I am an African American woman. There is no way in HELL this guy should have not been arrested. True you do have the right to protect YOUR home not your neighbors and you also have to be in fear of your life not run toward the threat. He told the police on a taped line that he was going after them. What the hell is that if that's the case joe blow citizen can just ride around with their guns and play police and shoot who they want as long as they are protecting property. This guy should be placed under the jail because of how reckless. If your in fear you run from it not towards the danger. He did the right thing by calling but if it was a black man who shot he would be charged with aggravated battery with a deadly weapon. The black community should stand up yes they were doing wrong but this cannot happen.
     

    pinkbarbie28
    I want to say to everybody that agrees with this senseless murder is wrong! Also this [EXPLETIVE] that did it needs to go to jail but he won't cause he is white! It's sad that blacks go to jail over little of nothing but whites get away with murder! The only thing we have ever gotten away with is OJ!
     

    Powerball06
    After hearing this clip, there are several things that I am concerned over:

    1. What took the police so long to get there?
    2. Why is this man not being charged with murder?

    I can appreciate his concern for the property of his neighbors; however, he should have NEVER resorted to violence. Now, instead of two men being charged with burglary, you have one man that could be charged with murder. Several things I noticed about him:

    1. He was TOO EAGER to shoot somebody.
    2. This man obviously had a mental condition.
    3. He's screwed because the audio clip can be used against him in court. The dispatcher said it SEVERAL times "not to go outside".

    MTO: Good job for actually getting the story correct and giving us all of the facts.
     

    My2damncents
    They weren't black but some real dark ricans. I just read the article and hell if they weren't stealing they may have lived to see another day!!! They seem to be here illegal from the way the story read too. But [EXPLETIVE] he put 4 12 gauge shoots into them. If I was a theif and I saw gun I knew then my looting was over lmao!!! But hell every nation in the world hate a thief so hey you reap what you sow. And God felt they were worth living then the bullets wouldn't have killed them!!!
     

    plug
    oh my
     

    plug
    dang i hope he go to jail with them
     

    just-us
    He needs to go to jail because those guys were not a threat to him had he stayed in the house like he was told that was not his place and why call the police if you are going to handle it yourself. The officers dont that a right unless the subject is armed. This is my job and I would have advised to do the same as the operator!!!
     

    MrsSeely
    The only thing that bothers me about this is that it wasn't his house.

    BUT!!!

    I don't really have any sympathy for theives. We live in a nation where you can get what you *need* if you ask for it so no one one needs to steal anything in a normal (non-Katrina) situation. Maybe it'll be a lesson don't steal because your victum or his neighbor might bust a cap.
     

    niemtel
    mixedChick I wish you was ny neighbor so I could shoot your dumb ass. your racist B*I*T*C*H. WHAT THE [EXPLETIVE] IS YOUR PROBLEM????? SOMEONE NEED TO YOUR DUMB ASS.
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    monisha
    @My2damncents

    Let us not lie on another race. I am from Houston and i live on Broadway street. we gotta be real, they were black not Ricans, anyways i love what the guy did shoot em to death. My thing is that too many blacks love to commit crimes, i am black but speaking the truth, the earlier we tell each other the truth the better. look at when they bombarded Houston with folks from Louisiana crime rate increased what a shame, it is good to be your brothers keeper and that was what the neighbor did. My brother was robbed by two black males, all they want to do is smoke weed and steal, that is not life. And we have some idiots coming up here to say he shouldn't have shot them c'mon now. I am black but i would always speak the truth. they should throw the black mens body in a river and give the white man recognition in the neighborhood period. Tell me ladies imagine walking somewhere and u see a really huge dark skin man just walking behind u , u dont get scared, well i do.
     

    missT_757
    @katdaddy If your racist why are you on a mostly black site. Your the type that talks a good game in private but you kiss a** in public. The next black person you see I dare you to call them the N-word to their face. How brave are you? Know that I am not responsible for you hospitalization.
     

    monisha
    @ mixedchick

    U stated a fact and they cant handle it that's why they wanna murder u, and check the people that are mad that the guy shot the men are blacks, this is the reason i am not proud i am black.
    Black is ugly
    Black is violent
    Black is hate
    Black is evil
     

    mistiblue
    @ monisha

    we must be getting mixed reports. I live in the greater Houston area as well and they have said that the men were Black as in the color of their skin, but were indeed Hispanic.
     

    kattdaddy2
    @ mistiblue

    OK, I digress, let's keep it civilized. Would I kill for my neighbor HMMMMM ???

    Well, If I thought my neighbors were personally in danger, of course I would, but this is not the case. The question you should have asked is, would I kill for my neighbors stuff ? The answer is no, and this is pretty much what this guy did.

    HOWEVER...CONSIDER THESE FACTORS.

    This is Texas, they have very liberal laws on guns and gun use, they also have a lower crime rate because the average criminal knows that people not only posess guns out there, but have a whole lot of descretion in using them, WHICH IS THE MAIN REASON THIS GUY DIDN'T GET CHARGED.

    Yeah, he was reckless by not listening to the dispatcher, and yeah, I personally would have probably stayed in the house.

    But I also think that it's the theives own fault that they are now dead ! People who commit burglary DO NOT DESERVE TO DIE !!!

    BUT UNFORTUNATELY FOR THEM, THIS IS WHAT WE CALL "AN UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCE" OF CRIME !!!

    AND TO THIS I SAY, TOO BAD FOR THEM THIEVES !

    I DON'T CONDONE A SOCIETAL VIGILANTE MINDSET, BUT I BELIEVE THAT IF EVERY STATE ALLOWED LAW-ABIDING RESIDENT TO OWN GUNS, CRIMINALS WOULD THINK TWICE ABOUT CRIME IS ALL I'M SAYING.

    NO MATTER WHAT YOU PEOPLE IN HERE THINK, THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS SAFER TODAY THAN IT EVER WAS BECAUSE OF THIS MAN'S ACTIONS !!!

    And for the record, I called him a trigger happy redneck, because that's what I think he is.

    I'm not sayin what this guy did was all that right, but it certainly has a silver lining.

    It ain't the same as the murder of innocent blacks by other black criminals everyday.

    WHERE IS THE OUTRAGE AT THAT !!! THIS IS WHY I DON'T FEEL SORRY FOR THEM. BLACK FOLKS PRIORITIES ARE SCREWED UP !

    WHY ARE WE ALWAYS IN THE POSITION TO DEFEND THE CRIMINALS AMONG US ???

    I'M TIRED OF DOING THAT ! YOU CRIMINALISTIC NY66AS CAN BURN IN HELL !
     

    sk8key
    Black or white, I hope to God that I have neighbors like that. Unfortunately, in a black neighborhood, this guy would be ostracized for "snitching"
     

    mistiblue
    @
    kattdaddy2
    I actually agree with what you are saying regarding those scums who were out stealing from someone else. You will never hear me make excuses for sorry a$$ human beings. I was looking at it from the point that the dude should have chilled. BUT, like you said...the streets are safer. (bad joke!) Okay good people...I am on my way to Pappasito's. Those of you in the H know what I'm talking about!
     

    kattdaddy2
    @ missT

    I'm black ! So now what ! I know the rules, I can say ny66a all day up in this bytch !

    I am racist against ignorance and the ny66as who perpetrate it....INCLUDING MTO !!!

    I THINK BLACK FOLKS ARE THE MOST RACIST GROUP OF PEOPLE IN THE USA RIGHT NOW ! NOBODY OR THEIR MOMMA GIVES A DAMN ABOUT RACE AS MUCH AS WE DO.

    WE SCREAM AND CRY RACISM EVERY 5 MINUTES, WHILE OUR RACE IS OUT HERE WALKIN AROUND WITH A CHIP ON OUR SHOULDER COMMITTING CRIME, BEING MYSOGYNISTIC AND MATERIALISTIC !
     

    fruitypebbles
    why don't we just look at the facts. This man had NO RIGHT to kill!! It wasn't his property. Who is he protecting? Did the criminal have guns? Did they attack him? NO he shot them like animals. I'm not saying robbing someone is wrong but murder is wrong also. He think he is slick and he said he has rights to "Protect" but he needs to read his laws. I don't think he will get away with this..
    Click the link it will explain the Castle Doctrine or Law that he was talking about and he is NOT justified to kill

    http://www.capitol.state.tx.us/tlodocs/80R/billtext/html/SB00378I.htm
     

    getyashyttogether
    You know what, It doesn't even matter because GOD will deal with it all. Obviously something was bad enough in life for them to resort to stealing, and risking the chance of something like that happening to them. So you guys don't feel bad for those young men. At least they are no longer hear to deal with whatever drove them to that point, and they also no longer have to deal with the bullshyt ass world we still have to live in. AND that animal WILL answer for his actions. They were dead wrong for burglarizing that house, but as others have stated that doesn't give anyone the right to decide when another person's life should end. Those things can be replaced, or was probably insured. He will, more than likely, burn in hell a million times over for it is a sin to kill as well as it is to steal. "GOD" says no sin is greater than the other...so they were wrong for stealing but he is just as wrong for killing. AND those of you with that kind of hate in your heart to the point where you feel he was justified in killing those guys will burn right with him. If nobody else knows what in there (your heart that is) GOD knows! And if you condone something like that you would do it yourself. It really kills me how white people always try to make Blacks to be thieving, uncivilized, heathens. Let's not forget that they "stole" a whole country, and went to another country and stole the "fu*king" people!!!! (and killed and tortured those who were of no use to them like the INFANT BABIES, and aren't they the same mofos who come from the damn caves (cavemen) in Europe!!!! Who are really the uncivilized, thieving, heathens? Alot (not all) of what's wrong in the Black community can be laid at their (white people)feet. Again, I'm not justifying them stealing, but it is what it is...can we say Willie Lynch syndrome???? Read a FU*Cking book sometime ya'll instead of blogging all damn day!!!
     

    sk8key
    @fruitypebbs
    i think that when people decide to get money illegally, they forfeit their right to be protected under the law. if you can't abide by society's laws, then you shouldn't be protected by them. these idiots got exactly what they deserved
     

    Born_JAmerican
    Get pissed of if you want to but under TX law this man had the right to lick 2 shots inna dem tiefs!!

    Read it -

    Texas Penal Code
    § 9.43. PROTECTION OF THIRD PERSON'S PROPERTY. A person
    is justified in using force or deadly force against another to
    protect land or tangible, movable property of a third person if,
    under the circumstances as he reasonably believes them to be, the
    actor would be justified under Section 9.41 or 9.42 in using force
    or deadly force to protect his own land or property and:
    (1) the actor reasonably believes the unlawful
    interference constitutes attempted or consummated theft of or
    criminal mischief to the tangible, movable property;


    § 9.42. DEADLY FORCE TO PROTECT PROPERTY. A person is
    justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or
    tangible, movable property:
    (1) if he would be justified in using force against the
    other under Section 9.41; and
    (2) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the
    deadly force is immediately necessary:
    (A) to prevent the other's imminent commission of
    arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the
    nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime; or
    (B) to prevent the other who is fleeing
    immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated
    robbery, or theft during the nighttime from escaping with the
    property; and
    (3) he reasonably believes that:
    (A) the land or property cannot be protected or
    recovered by any other means; or
    (B) the use of force other than deadly force to
    protect or recover the land or property would expose the actor or
    another to a substantial risk of death or serious bodily injury.

    § 9.41. PROTECTION OF ONE'S OWN PROPERTY. (a) A person in
    lawful possession of land or tangible, movable property is
    justified in using force against another when and to the degree the
    actor reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to
    prevent or terminate the other's trespass on the land or unlawful
    interference with the property.
    (b) A person unlawfully dispossessed of land or tangible,
    movable property by another is justified in using force against the
    other when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the force
    is immediately necessary to reenter the land or recover the
    property if the actor uses the force immediately or in fresh pursuit
    after the dispossession and:
    (1) the actor reasonably believes the other had no
    claim of right when he dispossessed the actor;
     

    Born_JAmerican
    Get pissed of if you want to but under TX law this man had the right to lick 2 shots inna dem tiefs!!

    Read it -

    Texas Penal Code
    § 9.43. PROTECTION OF THIRD PERSON'S PROPERTY. A person
    is justified in using force or deadly force against another to
    protect land or tangible, movable property of a third person if,
    under the circumstances as he reasonably believes them to be, the
    actor would be justified under Section 9.41 or 9.42 in using force
    or deadly force to protect his own land or property and:
    (1) the actor reasonably believes the unlawful
    interference constitutes attempted or consummated theft of or
    criminal mischief to the tangible, movable property;


    § 9.42. DEADLY FORCE TO PROTECT PROPERTY. A person is
    justified in using deadly force against another to protect land or
    tangible, movable property:
    (1) if he would be justified in using force against the
    other under Section 9.41; and
    (2) when and to the degree he reasonably believes the
    deadly force is immediately necessary:
    (A) to prevent the other's imminent commission of
    arson, burglary, robbery, aggravated robbery, theft during the
    nighttime, or criminal mischief during the nighttime; or
    (B) to prevent the other who is fleeing
    immediately after committing burglary, robbery, aggravated
    robbery, or theft during the nighttime from escaping with the
    property; and
    (3) he reasonably believes that:
    (A) the land or property cannot be protected or
    recovered by any other means; or
    (B) the use of force other than deadly force to
    protect or recover the land or property would expose the actor or
    another to a substantial risk of death or serious bodily injury.

    § 9.41. PROTECTION OF ONE'S OWN PROPERTY. (a) A person in
    lawful possession of land or tangible, movable property is
    justified in using force against another when and to the degree the
    actor reasonably believes the force is immediately necessary to
    prevent or terminate the other's trespass on the land or unlawful
    interference with the property.
    (b) A person unlawfully dispossessed of land or tangible,
    movable property by another is justified in using force against the
    other when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the force
    is immediately necessary to reenter the land or recover the
    property if the actor uses the force immediately or in fresh pursuit
    after the dispossession and:
    (1) the actor reasonably believes the other had no
    claim of right when he dispossessed the actor;
     

    HUEmanbro
    B1349, you sound like ratinal thinking sista. I wish it was more people on the police force like yourself. Good points!
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    Hellno
    Born_JAmerican

    Thanks for posting the statutes of law.
    I didn't want to commit at first until I saw the law in that state. Now I can understand why the police officers didn't arrest him. This is one of the great disadvantages of America, there are 50 states with different laws.
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    Hellno
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    call_me_crazy_but
    We celebrate criminals who have destroyed our communities by making movies about them.....I want a ride or die neighbor like this guy. I have no sympathy for criminals...get a damned job!
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    call_me_crazy_but
    Like Vernon Johns said, they had been begging somebody to put some pellets in their azz; and somebody finally obliged them!
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    OWtlaw1963
    Them damn fools shouldn't have been trying to break into someone's house.
     

    getyashyttogether
    LAWS are man made, that doesn't mean they're moral. and no one is celebrating criminals you idiot. We are stating that no one has the right to take another person's life... especially not for no material shyt THAT CAN BE REPLACED!...NO ONE!!! except GOD. It's as simple as that. They have to answer to God for what they done wrong...let him punish them, you don't have the right to. Who the fu*k are you to say somebody should be punished this way or that way. What about when your ass fu*k up, as we all do because we all sin, whether it is stealing, killing, cheating, or lying it's all wrong in God's eye. ...To hell with what the law says, God said you can't take another person's life!!! So damn it you can't!!!
     

    chocolatebee
    i live in houston where this happened.that guy is a nut.i mean what happened to mind your own business. yes he thought was doing the right neighborly thing by protecting his neighbor's property but he shot those guys in cold blood not really knowing who they were or what they were doing.
     

    da8dawg
    I saw a bumper sticker the other day. It read:

    DON'T MESS WITH TEXAS!!!
    (It's not nice to pick on retards)

    I guess I understand now. Only in Texas.
     

    misskiara101
    i saw this on the news earlier NOW THAT MOFO WAS CRAZY!!!! he had to have been lonely to jus come out and shoot someone up, who was stealing [EXPLETIVE] that WASNT EVEN URS!!!!! he needs to get arrested ASAP!
     

    monisha
    blacks everything is not racism. the black guys were wrong and they sure deserved what they got
     

    BACKSHOTZ
    This is some RACIST BULLSHYT if i ever heard any!!! NO THEY HAD NO BUSINESS BREAKING INTO THE HOME! But who told DICK CHENEY that he was LAW?!?!?!? Shots in the air would have SAFICED!
    Alot of y'all are saying he could have shot them in the leg or foot! But u can STILL hit a MAIN ARTERY & BLEED TO DEATH!A nd it was a SHOTGUN too!!! A few rounds in the air to let them know that the sign that says NEIGHBORHOOD WATCH is not up there for decoration would have BEEN FINE!That lets them know that people are watching out for others. But to go and just BLATANTLY shoot them because they were getting away with something that DIDN'T BELONG TO HIM EITHER was just DUMB + IGNORANT + STUPID = RACIST!!!!
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    dymples_76
    Bottom line...

    Stop robbing and stealing, get a freakin job like all the other decent people. Lil' fake behind thugs get on my freakin nerves. They don't care about anyone but themselves.

    Forever masterminding something. That same energy ya'll take to mastermind some unlawfulness, turn it around and use it for good.

    @ ALL THOSE OVER 30... is it me or is the world getting totally out of control or am I getting older and more aware of my surroundings? I live in SC and we are second I believe in crime. SECOND!!!! We are a small state in population compared to NY. They rob supermarkets here in broad freakin daylight. They also robbed the IHOP and alot of the other fast food places.

    Shoot I should move back to NY!
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    Honesty24
    @ DYMPLES_76-

    I'VE GROWN UP IN A RICH NEIGHBORHOOD AND A POOR NEIGHBORHOOD, AND IN BOTH SITUATIONS, THERE IS A DOWN SIDE. BEFORE MY FATHER GOT HANDED A 30 YEAR SENTENCE FOR BEING ONE OF THE BIGGEST DOPE DEALERS IN OUR CITY. WE HAD 2 MAIDS, A MARBLE FLOOR, 3 CAR GARAGE, I WENT TO THE BEST SCHOOLS AND ALL OF THAT. HOWEVER WE LIVED IN A PREDOMINANTLY WHITE NEIGHBORHOOD. RACIST KIDS WOULD STEAL THINGS OUT OF MY DESK, TEASE ME, TRY TO FIGHT ME AND I WAS VERY LONELY AND DEPRESSED.
    I WAS LIKE 1/3 BLACK KIDS IN A CHRISTIAN SCHOOL.
    WHEN THE IRS CAME AND TOOK ALL THAT AWAY ALONG WITH MY DAD, WE HAD TO MOVE IN WITH MY GRANDPARENTS, THEN MOVED INTO A SMALL APARTMENT IN THE JETS.

    ONCE THERE, WE HAD SOME MATERIAL THINGS THAT WE USED TO HAVE WHEN WE WERE RICH AND ONE DAY, WE CAME HOME AND ME AND MY LITTLE BROTHERS T.V WAS GONE, THE LAMPS, MICROWAVE, GONE! AND THE WINDOWS WERE BROKEN. NOBODY WOULD TELL US WHAT HAPPENED, WHEN THEY KNEW WHO TOOK OUR SH!T. GIRLS WANTED TO FIGHT ME AND BEAT ME UP ON THE WAY HOME FROM SCHOOL, FOR JUST BEING TOO QUIET AND THEY TOOK THAT AS ARROGANCE I GUESS. I SPOKE PROPERLY (BECAUSE OF THE SCHOOLS I WENT TO) AND WAS FAR MORE ADVANCED IN READING THAN OTHER KIDS) NOBODY EXCEPT THE TEACHERS APPRECIATED THAT. I WAS CONSIDERED AN OUTCAST. THERE IS A DOWN SIDE TO EVERY TYPE OF LIFESTYLE, RICH OR POOR. BEING RICH ISN'T ALL THAT IT'S CRACKED OUT TO BE, AND BEING POOR RARELY IS EITHER. WHITE PEOPLE DO NOT THINK WE DESERVE WHAT THEY HAVE AND ARE ABLE TO GET SO EASILY. WE HAVE TO WORK DOUBLY HARD TO GET WHERE THEY ARE, WHEN IT SHOULDN'T HAVE TO BE THAT WAY. I BET ANYTHING THESE BURGLARS WERE BLACK AND THIS GUY WAS A WHITE SUPREMACIST. THE POLICE KNOW HE DESERVES TO BE LOCKED UP, EVEN POLICE OFFICERS ARE POSTING ON THIS SITE, SAYING THAT HIS ARREST SHOULD BE PROCEDURE. BUT IT WONT HAPPEN. THE WORLD IS COMING TO AN END. SORRY ABOUT THE LONG STORY, BUT IN THE HOOD I GREW UP IN, THERE WAS A DOUBLE HOMICIDE, ONE OF THE BOYS KILLED WAS ACTUALLY MY COUSIN. HE HAD A SCHOLARSHIP AND EVERYTHING AND WAS GOING TO BE A PRO IN SOME SPORT, I KNOW IT. HE WAS SMART (4.0 GPA AND EVERYTHING) BUT HE WAS IN A GANG AND COULDN'T SAY NO TO HIS FRIENDS. ANYWAY THE BOY WHO ALLEGEDLY KILLED HIM AND HIS FRIEND, WAS BAILED OUT OF JAIL ON A 10,000 BOND AT 7:50 PM. AT 9:30 THAT SAME NIGHT, HIS BULLET RIDDEN BODY WAS FOUND IN A PARK AND HE WAS KILLED "EXECUTION STYLE", SO THE PAPER SAYS. WHEN SOMEONE WILL PAY 10,000 TO KILL YOU, YOU KNOW IT'S SERIOUS. MORAL OF ALL THIS, THE WORLD IS COMING TO AN END, IT'S ALL GOING TO HELL IN A HAND BASKET AND WE'VE ALL GOT A STORY TO TELL. NO MATTER WHERE YOU MOVE TO OR WHAT YOU DO, WHEN IT'S YOUR TIME, IT'S YOUR TIME, AND YOU CAN BE GOT WHENEVER, WHEREVER AND HOWEVER. LIVE LIFE TO THE FULLEST YA'LL. GONE!
     

    MrsSeely
    monisha

    @ mixedchick

    U stated a fact and they cant handle it that's why they wanna murder u, and check the people that are mad that the guy shot the men are blacks, this is the reason i am not proud i am black.
    Black is ugly
    Black is violent
    Black is hate
    Black is evil

    +++++

    If you feel that way this topic should be the least of your worries. You should see a shrink.
     

    richchick
    Interesting...The names of the guys sound like they're mexican or something other than black...I READ the article & it seems some people did not read it!! I WONDERED WHY he felt compeled to shoot 2 kill...I don't think it's a black white issue(for me or the old man) He was known for being the GRANDPA of the neighborhood..Some people say they'd go to him for anything..It's said that he killed those(dumb,lazy)guys...Being a NICE guy in the neighborhood is not a defense!!! God bless the 911 guy...He was very calm BUT GRANPA's RAGE was stronger...
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    rexchap
    Yeah, that's foul. BUT THERE'S 2 LESS.

    PLAIN and SIMPLE.

    Ever since KATRINA, the crime rate in HOUSTON has skyrocketed. Not saying they were N.O folks but OH WELL.

    I bet it will deter SOMEBODY from trying THAT neighborhood again.
     

    SmoothOne
    I'm assuming this guy is white.
    What color was the 2 men he shot?
    Dont tellme they're black. We might have a race riot on our hands.
     

    SmoothOne
    I'm assuming this guy is white.
    The 2 guys were hispanic.
    They are Miguel Dejesus, 38, and Diego Ortiz, 30.

    http://www.khou.com/topstories/stories/khou071116_jj_timberlineshootingfollow.d0036e5.html
     

    wanyeschick1985
    ok i agree with mixedchick!!! first off he was on the phone with the dispatcher for about 20 mins before the damn police got there and secondly i've been robbed before and i would've been grateful if my neighbors shot em in the leg or something to stop em cuz more than likely if they get away your chances are less likely to find out who did it but i understand he didn't have to kill them but when you robbing someones house what do you expect??? you're on someone else's property regardless if it wasn't the neighbors property it wasn't the buglars business to be doing dumb [EXPLETIVE] in the first place so thats they fault dumb asses...plus i think ol dude said they were in his front yard so once they stepped on his property then thats another mistake they made!!!
     

    sweetly_1
    I didn't know robbery was a death sentence in this country, wow, thanks MIxedChick for letting us all know that.This neighbor should have been arrested he was told repeatedly not to go outside and not to kill anyone, he is a murderer, they were only thieves, but he will pay someway for taking those men lives. I would not be pleased if I was his neighbor killing someone in my name, He wanted to do it and then take the high ground. He had NO RIGHT TO TAKE THEIR LIVES!!!!! PEOPLE ARE TOOOOO MATERIALISTIC IN THIS WORLD.
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    Attorneymom
    I wish he was my neighbor.
     

    butch31
    I do not blame him, them mofo's from Mexico too, they have no citizenship here in da USA, they r killing people, and da police can not solve deez murders.
    I do not blame him. That man was elderly, i would have shot to kill too.
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    Sexymom
    When I was 13 I had the chicken pox and was very ill, I was staying home from school so my mom went to the store to get me some medication someone had to have been watching her leave because about 5 minutes after she was gone I heard someone breaking into my parents home.
    I cannot tell you how absolutly petrified I was. All of the neighbors were at work and I was so weak all I could do was stand on the side porch crying until my momma came back home. Turns out it was the neighbors sons across the street.

    I said all that to say this, you never know what has happened to someone in the past to make them react in a situation like this, I feel like they could have been stopped with a buckshot to the kneecaps or ankles, but the laws in Texas abide by the constitution and they are allowed to bear arms and defend themselves and I guess that means by any means necessary. The theives put themselves in this predicament and according to Born_JAmerican's post this man is protected under the law

    Texas Penal Code
    § 9.43. PROTECTION OF THIRD PERSON'S PROPERTY. A person
    is justified in using force or deadly force against another to
    protect land or tangible, movable property of a third person if,
    under the circumstances as he reasonably believes them to be, the
    actor would be justified under Section 9.41 or 9.42 in using force
    or deadly force to protect his own land or property and:
    (1) the actor reasonably believes the unlawful
    interference constitutes attempted or consummated theft of or
    criminal mischief to the tangible, movable property;


    Now if I go to Saudi Arabia and get stoned for wearing a tank top I'm sure ignorance of the law is not self-defense. You should know the laws in your state.
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    htownwonderwoman
    Y'all don't have to guess too hard where I'm from...just look at my name LOL. Here's the bottom line. Anybody who's ever been robbed knows that the thieves takes a lot more from you than money and video games...they take your sense of security, your general trust in your fellow man, and your stability. The world is never the same after that. As far as this guy goes, yeah, he shouldn't have went outside, but those guys shouldn't have been robbing his neighbors' home in BROAD FREAKIN' DAYLIGHT either.

    You can look at this two ways: 1--if you think he was simply trying to protect his neighbors' property and went too far, it's sad that two men had to die as a result OF THEIR OWN STUPIDITY.
    2---if you think he's a racist who was on a ni*** hunt, it's a damn shame two men died because OF THEIR OWN STUPIDITY. THEY PUT THEMSELVES IN A BAD SITUATION, KNOWING THE RISKS WHEN THEY DECIDED TO BREAK THE LAW. Should he get off scot-free? No--but these guys died senselessly because they were doing wrong and ran into the wrong dude on the wrong damn day.
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    HUEmanbro
    I can't believe dumb black mofos on here saying I wish he was my neighbor and I would of did the same thing. Karma is going to be a bitch for you peeps and You condoning a racist mofo that took people lives over [EXPLETIVE] you can replace says alot about your character and what you live by. That's all I'm going to say in this retarded folks thread and I normally curse at people,but this sh!t is ridiculous.
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    HUEmanbro
    I don't care if they wer mexicans or whatever they're still melanites and ya'll wonder why mexicans hate black people ya'll siding with yt to kill anybody is disgrace.
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    imaqtee1
    He didn't have to kill or shot them. Instead of grabbing the shotgun, he should have grabbed a camera or camcorder and took picture/ flim the broke in. Then when the police showed up( which was some seconds late) he should have showed it to them, and the guys wouls have been caught in no time. They was not to his property and they where not bothering him. He have no excuse to shot them. And I hope he is put in jail to think about what an AS* he was!
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    DL
    carliss123, you should have read the article before commenting the burglars were not black. They were hispanic, do you know any black ppl name Miguel Dejesus and Diego Ortiz.
     

    awsomedick
    PFUNK THAT!!! CAUSE IF THEY WAS IN YOUR HOUSE WHILE U WERE HOME, 9 TIMES OUTTA 10 U AND EVERYONE INSIDE WOULD BE DEAD AND THE HOUSE WOULD BE ON FIRE!! NOW IF THESE WERE KIDS LIKE THEY SAY, YEAH HOLD EM TO THE COPS COME. BUT IF THESE WERE ADULTS THEN F--- EM!! I PROMISE U THERE WOULD BE NO REMORSE IF THEY HAD PEOPLE IN THERE!! THANK GOD THEY WERE GONE HA? SO U LET EM GO THEN THEY NEXT NIGHT IT'S YO [EXPLETIVE]!! WHAT U GON SAY THEN IF THEY GET AWAY?? F THE COPS??? U GONNA BE HORRIFIED THINKING THEY STILL IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD!! MAN LOOK!! S---T REAL!! ANY HESITATION WILL GET U KILLED!!
     

    sweetheartntn1
    I UNDERSTAND EVERYBODY'S SHOCK WHEN THEY HEAR THESE TWO GUYS GOT SHOT AND THE CONVERSATIONS BY THE SHOOTER LEADING UP TO IT. BUT I GOTTA TELL U THAT I AM GLAD THAT TEXAS HAS LAWS LIKE THAT. OUR HOUSE HAS BEEN BROKEN INTO AND WE WERE HELD IN THE HOUSE BY THE TWO MEN. THEY COULD HAVE KILLED US. HOUSTON IS A BIG AZZ CITY, I USED TO LIVE THERE. THERE ARE MORE THAN ENOUGH JOBS FOR ANYBODY. THEY HAVE NO EXCUSE FOR TAKING WHAT'S NOT THEIRS. AND IF THEY CHARGED HIM LIKE HE SAID, HELL YEAH SHOOT THEIR AZZES! MY LIL COUSIN GOT STABBED IN CALI A FEW WEEKS AGO. THEY STILL DON'T KNOW WHO DID THAT. IT'S ALWAYS BUSY IN LA. SO YOU WOULD OF THOUGHT SOMEBODY WOULD OF SEEN THAT. NOW A CONCERNED NEIGHBOR IN HOUSTON AND SEES SOME MESS GOING ON THAT HE DOESN'T AGREE WITH. IF THE LAWS SAY THAT YOU CAN DO IT, DO IT. TRUE, NOTHING IS WORTH ANYBODY'S LIFE, BUT WHY DID THOSE TWO MEN TAKE THAT RISK. THEY DID THIS IN BROAD DAYLIGHT. THEY SHOULD OF EXPECTED SOMETHING LIKE THIS. I WOULD TAKE THAT RED NECK IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD ANYTIME, BECAUSE MY NEIGHBORHOOD IS LIKE THE 'O K CORRAL' SOME NIGHTS. REMEMBER THIS...FOR EVERY ACTION THERE IS A REACTION. HE REACTED DIFFERENTLY THAN SOME OF BLACK FOLKS DO. WE TAKE A BLIND EYE TO EVERY CRIME (LOOK AWAY AND DON'T SNITCH) THAT'S DUMB ESPECIALLY IF IT'S YOU OR A PERSON YOU LOVE ON THE RECEIVING END OF THEIR CRIME. PEOPLE DON'T BE THAT STUPID. DAMN!
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    travieboo7
    HE JUST WANTED TO KILL THEM....CAUSE THEY WAS BLACK
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    tiaje
    BOTH were HISPANIC BURGLARS

    Police identified the suspected burglars as Miguel DeJesus, 38, and Diego Ortiz, 30.
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    elle1973
    oh boo hoo. I am sick and tired of Black people running to the defense of low-life criminals. My feeling has always been if you break into someone's home, you deserve anything that happens to you after the fact. You will never EVER see me PITY someone who does things like that. They're dead. Too damn bad. Now they won't get another chance to victimize anyone else's home or family. Oh boo hoo. What will we do without the burglars of the world. Oh boo hoo hoo.
     

    pleazures
    Someone broke into my home in '99. My kids and me were not home thank God. I can not begin to tell you how I felt. To this day, I have no idea who did it. I stayed up many nights after that because I feared for my kids and my life. To be honest..I realy have mixed feelings about this situation. Yes, the guy was wrong for shooting theses men; he may also be a racist,but I tell you..I don't think he woke up that morning and said, "hey I'm gonna kill two ni...s today!" Sometimes we can put ourselves in hell of a situation. If it were me, I would have called the police and gave a description of the 2 men. But, I think this individual felt that if he did not stop them..his house would be next...and of course this was wrong.
     

    weezyandohyeahyeezy
    The azzhole was wrong to shoot and take the lives of humans regardless of race. It was not his house, he was not in it, he was doing the right thing by calling authorities, and even the operator told him it was not worth it. It's so sad that people think it's ok to just kill these days, also sad to think it's ok to steal these days, however, no one was at home and they would have been caught...eventually, maybe later to have become speakers against violent crimes and anyhoo...God bless them all, and everyone that commented. P.S. Bless you Kanye, he's the only reason I ever registered.
     

    Reality
    This neighbor had every intention of killing those burglars. He was specifically instructed to stay in his home and he violated that. Those burglars were on their way to jail. They were not going to get away as you can see that the officers were there seconds after the neighbor fired shots. This neighbor with his trgger happy finger could have shot somebody innocent in all this. What if a child happened to run out to play at the same time. What if someone was driving by and slowed their car down to see what was going on. What if a police officer ran out there without a uniform, but a gun in his hand, and this neighbor shot him thinking that he was down with the suspects, especially if that officer was black. There is a reason why officers are trained to do what they do. This neighbor was not in any danger by sitting in his house looking out the window. He should be arrested. I wouldn't want to live next door to a trigger happy murderer.
     

    peachpie
    it's tragic, but I understand,

    no winners.
     

    misskiara101
    man i dont care what no one says, he killed those men intentionally! that fool was trigger happy, he jus couldnt wait for the time to come to blast someone...come on now yall "boom, ur dead" wtf else would u think?? i hope he didnt think he was playin a video game??? man thats some bullshit! its funny how some ppl prolly thought that the burglars were black, i know we think that sometimes in this kind of situation but come on now thats stereotypin yo own ppl!!! [EXPLETIVE] everyone steals, but that still no a reason to kill someone, over some [EXPLETIVE] that aint even urz!!!! man this world is crazy as hell, and coming to an end!!
     

    benali2x
    Did you guys notice how the coward ass vigilante ran in the house after he shot the guys. This guy confronts two men who are running away from him but he was protecting himself. Hey folkes don't work your self up over this because he is not going to get charged or convicted. I don't get upset over stuff like this anymore because nothing is going to come of this. So tell Jesse and Al to stay home because we will be wasting time. Yeah these guys are wrong for the crime but you just can't shoot people because you are mad. the stupid MF could have killed one of his neighbors with a stry bullet. You will go to jail for killing a burglar leaving your property.

    Benali2x All Praise is Due
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    notaverage0834
    MTO why was this not Headline News????? I can't believe that an editor would think child molesting R.Kelly is worthy of any headline, while this falls to the side...blah MTO
    Step your [EXPLETIVE] up!!!!
     

    MarcStar
    LMAO at BENALI2X

    This clown was told numerous times to stay in the house, but he runs outside to be a hero, over some sh!t that aint his, then RUN back in the house, saying he had no choice! You can only use protection of self if u, feel that ur life was in danger, if he felt that his life was in danger, why did he go outside! Fukkin clown, and all u clowns on here talking about ur not proud to be black, can go straight to hell with a gasoline daiquiri!
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    mrperfect
    damn coons always stealing peoples stuff. I'm glad they got popped. ATL needs an open gun law too. I work in retail and every week we have some velcro-headed coon shop lifting out of out store.
     

    jane
    #1, DIDNT they say he told 911 he was gonna go
    there, when they said not to
    2. HE SEEMED; a little trigger happy, and when
    he saw they were black, could he have just
    panic, and thought they would jump him??
    3. HE NEEDS TO do some time in jail,cause he
    took the law in his own hand
    4. texas f***ked up lettin those hurrican people
    come there in that large of amounts
    they should have sent them to alaska, colorado , idaho, places where there arent a lot ofcrime, or black people.. results would have been better.. houston already had a high crime rate now its trippled., and i bet those two were from lousianna
    5.NO ONE ...NO ONE..has the right to kill a person unless your in danger of being killed.,
    the killer could have mental issues too..
    6. maybe the neighbors and him were like familie
    and he wasnt sure if they were injured inside the house or not..
    7. and white people still fear black folks, look at the jena 6 prime example
    8. we need to start raising our children with morals, and eduacating them so this s***t want be happening., i bet those two men were real young, or crackheads, or poor from katrina, or just thugs...but for them to robb people they had issues you can bet that!!!
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    mbtogo
    WON'T YOU .....WON,T YOU
    BE MY NEIGHBOR.....
    GOOD STUFF ANOTHER BULLSHIT TRIAL AVOIDED
    ANOTHER PROBATION AND SLAP ON THE WRIST AVOIDED
    AND GUESS WHAT'S THE BEST PART
    THESE [EXPLETIVE] WON'T BE DOING THIS AGAIN AT LEAST IN THIS WORLD
    GOOD SHOOTING POP.
     

    kim
    Im a black woman and im glad he shot there asses people work hard for their [EXPLETIVE] for someone to just come into your home and violate you i would have sone the same thing.Let someone take something from you and your neighbor watches the whole thing and do nothing .One of my rental properties were burglarized a neighbor had the license plate of the person who burglarized the place and the police did nothing even with the license plate number and my insurance state farm didnt cover it because they said i had to let them know i was gonna be renting it so there u go
     

    MIZZ_B
    This could have been avoided if they weren't trying to break into some one's home. Not to be mean, but they're leaches that do society no good and no use. I'm not perfect, but I wish everyone could think like me. If you want something work hard for it. I could never imagine stealing something from someone. That's one of the things I hate the most is a thief. The justice system? They do a little bit of time and get out and do it again, we all know it. Obviously jail isn't that bad to some of these people because they keep doing the same thing over and over again. My mantra if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. They would be alive right now if they were at home, work, school or do something legal. I will admit if this was the other way around or the shooter was black he would be in big trouble. A black man in Wisconsin is doing I believe 25 years for shooting some men that tried to break into his girlfriend's car. As far as these criminals good riddance, one less looser to worry about. I work too hard for what I have. What do we need murders, rapist, child molesters and thieves for? What use do they give us? I put it this way when we're allowed to take things into our own hands we don't have to worry about it happening again, when we let the police deal with it, we know they'll be out to do the same thing to someone else.
     

    HUEmanbro
    I can't believe people on here saying that those men deserved to die over a few materialistic merchandise. Better watch your karma to those who saying the dumb shyt,because you might end up getting robbed or shot and elle, if you're tired of black people why are you on this site?
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    MIZZ_B
    kattdaddy2, I believe with you 100%. It is a such thing as karma. These people act a fool before they go to jail, while they're in jail and when they come out. It's so true even if he is a red neck why give him a reason to do what he wants to do. We've been talking about law abiding citizens having the right to carry conceal weapons in my State. One person made a point, these criminals would be less likely to rob someone not knowing if that person has a weapon or not. I'm sorry, but I'm a human being and I don't want to be put in the same category as a thief I believe animal is appropriate.
     

    maddgamesmalls
    well that will teach them, stop stealing! Even though it was wrong to take the law in your own hands. That old white dude had it on his mind that day, somebody was gonna get it, and one did. Sometimes the victim ain't always the victim.
     

    MIZZ_B
    I'm a college graduate and I work two jobs just to pay off my student loans early. My car was broken into and my radio was stolen. I had to pay for the glass and a new radio. the police told me they may never catch the guy. I'm not saying he should die, but I was inconvenienced and had to come out of pocket. He benefits from having my property and may never get caught. I'm sick of these criminals getting off so easy. Obviously what the justice system is doing isn't working because they don't mind robing and killing and everyone else. The police came after they were shot, if they would have had the chance to run off they may have gotten free and had a chance to do it to someone else. Lord knows how long it would have taken before they got caught. I just feel good riddance, they serve no use. I don't know if it's about material possessions as much as it's about people being fed up and feeling like prisoners, afraid to leave the house, afraid to just live life. So far 7 high school girls have been rapped in Milwaukee, between the times of 6am-9am while they're on the bus stop going to school. Seven times this has been able to happen because the police can't catch the bastard. People are simply sick and tired. People can't send their daughters off to school without the fear of their child being rapped. People are afraid to go to gas stations because they may be robbed. People are on the radio saying do your online shopping this year for the Holidays because you may get robbed It effects the quality of life for those that go to school, work or are retired. We shouldn't have to leave like this. I've watched the news and there have been so many stories of people that have been robbed at gun point they give up their money, purses, cell phone whatever and they STILL get shot. We're arguing over people that will do something like that? They don't value anyone Else's life, obviously they don't value their own. They know there is a risk for living the life that they do. It's ridiculous, I'm tired of it. Send them all to some Island somewhere or make these criminals fight in the war in Iraq since they love guns and violence so much. I'm sorry, but they don't deserve to walk free with us, terrorizing us. I mean all criminals. I'm mad and I'm tried of this.
     

    latricia14
    the two burglars were in fact hispanic they were not black however the man that shot the two guys told the 911 dispatcher that they were black but im like DL what black ppl u know who last names are Dejesus or ortiz.any who whatever color they were he had no business shootin them. honestly i believe the white man was racist.u know but thats how it is down here in texas.if u havent listened to the audio and u want too u can go to www.khouhoutonnews.com and listen for yourself.

    that white man should have mind his own got damn business.im sure he had nothing else to do.how else what he have known that someone was robbin somebody's else house and he didnt even know his neighbors.c'mon now i want everybody who commented on this story to tell me if you would risk yo life to stop or kill some damn burglars that wasnt even robbin yo house.shittt i wouldnt. the 911 dispatcher even told him that propery is not something worth killing somebody over. so if yall tellin me that yall support that white man then yall outta be a shame of yall selves.


    but off the subject DONT MESS WITH TEXAS or we will put a cap in yo azz!!lol
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    MIZZ_B
    monisha, Girl I feel your pain. I'm black, but this hate you appear to have for black people is no different then when a black man robs another black man or a black man kills another black man, it all comes from the hate of your own people. We'll kill or rob each other before we would another race. We have to stop this hate of our people. The man that broke into my car, my neighbor described him as a white man. I run the risk of being rapped or robbed by a white man, hispanic man just like I do a black man. To be honest I would be afraid if I was alone and any man was behind me, who cares what his color is.
     

    barebody
    For all of you who condone these buglars saying they should have not been killed and also saying what if they were 9/13yr olds.... .....

    i got news for you... well 3 yrs ago 2 teenagers walk in this 70yr old lady house here in NY and killed her cold blood for some cash and some earings....so i dont feel sorry for these fukking crooks the white man should have blown their [EXPLETIVE] heads off...cuz wat yall r sayin here is total buullshiit..



    ...when muthafukkers try to get ova.... u KAP dem bitches.....NO MERCY...too many ppl loose their lives over buglary ..do yall even watch these police camera shows??.....

    how innocent hard working civilians loose their lives because of lazy ppl dont wanna work and just take ur life senseless...???? think about that sh!t for a minute
     

    MIZZ_B
    barebody, I love you. People fail to realize, innocent people loose their lives over these thieves, even after they give up their stuff. You have grown men putting guns to women's heads while they have their babies with them, not just one man more than one for a woman and her babies. We want to spare the lives of scum like this? They rob, kill rape and brag about it. No remorse until they're facing a judge and that's want they need to show so they won't serve too much time, so they can hurry back to rob and rape some more people. They don't care about us. What if the neighbor was home and complied how sure are we that the thieves would have spared their life over material possessions. Do they think like that, I can't kill someone over their property?
     

    tmac4183
    Either the two guys are black latinos or straight latinos because if u mofos would do some little research you would find out the names of the two robbers Miguel Dejesus,Diego Ortiz. either that old man was lying about them being black or he just blind as hell

    http://www.khou.com/topstories/stories/khou071116_jj_timberlineshootingfollow.d0036e5.html
     

    anontanijat
    Wow.

    1. Does it really matter if the shooter was on a n***** hunt? Quite frankly I don't care. Those men had absolutely no business breaking into that house...period.

    2. For the people saying it is wrong to shoot someone for burglary: it's more about invasion of your home more than any "thing". Could you tell me that you would feel safe after someone breaks into you house? I don't think so. And if you see someone breaking into your neighbor's house you can't help but think that you just might be next.

    3. Does it make me any less black that the next person simply because I don't feel sorry for those dead thieves? Does that make me a Aunt Thomasina/Jemima? Or could it be that I have no sympathy for people who don't seem to have any morals? I am a woman, a mother, and a recent grad working her first real job. I struggle everyday and come home from a hard day's work to hear about stuff like this all of the time.

    4. Where I live, people have been killed/killed for their ipods, jewelry, sneakers, etc. It gets no big press because they are BLACK-ON-BLACK crimes. Where's the outrage when stuff like this happens? Hmmm...

    We need to stop pointing our fingers at "the man" and look deeply into our own communities; that's where the sickness is. Only the light of day can put an end to this madness.

    I know a lot of people don't want to hear it, but I have as much right as you to voice my opinions.
     

    HUEmanbro
    barebody, you're comparing oranges to apples.
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    HUEmanbro
    latricia, it's alot of black people with last names like ortiz or hernandez. You know there are black latins as well do u?
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    Total_Revolution
    THERE IS NO EXSCUSE FOR BREAKING AND ENTERING.
    I HAVE ZERO TOLLERANCE FOR B&E.
    "X" MARKS THE SPOT. HERE ME CLEARLY
    JACK-IN-THE-BOX, MCDONALDS, WHATABURGER,CHURCH'S CHIKEN, FEDERAL EXPRESS, POSTOFFICE, GRANDY'S ARE ALL HIRING WITHOUT A SITTING SHOOTGUN. EASY DECISION
     

    Ieshialicious
    He should have just done what the 911 operator ask him to do.
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    Total_Revolution
    THIS IS WHY WE HAVE SO MANY BLACK MEN IN PRISON. BREAKING AND ENTERING IS AGAINST THE LAW, COULDA WOULDA SHOULDA GOT A JOB.
     

    Total_Revolution
    IS EVERYTHING GETTING SO HARD THAT IF YOUR MAN DECIDE TO BREAK AND ENETER IT IS OK. YOU CAN GET YOU NEW WEAVE OR NEW RIMS OR GUCCI BAGS, DVD PLAYER, FLAT SCREEN TV, COMPUTER, PRINTER,IPOD
     

    Total_Revolution
    IS EVERYTHING GETTING SO HARD THAT IF YOUR MAN DECIDE TO BREAK AND ENTER IT IS OK. YOU CAN GET YOUR NEW WEAVE OR NEW RIMS OR GUCCI BAGS, DVD PLAYER, FLAT SCREEN TV, COMPUTER, PRINTER,IPOD
     

    bdsbabydoll
    There's no excuse for shooting someone to kill them unless they are IN your house or YOUR yard. I would have just shot them in the foot and called it a day.
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    SwoozyQ
    Admit it: If everyone involved had been Black, y'all wouldn't even care about this story.

    I feel bad for the dead guys' families though.
     

    SwoozyQ
    did they die?
     

    MLExperience
    This is one LOOOOONG call .. the police had plenty of time to get there ... whywerent they dispatched in all that time ?

    That said ..... here is the logic .... If you break into someones home to burglarize them, there is a chance you should be shot!!

    Next ... I agree wth mixed chick .... wish it were my neighbor .... and I don't agre witht he person who said he had no business going outside and saying anything to them. He did ... its his civic duty to protect hishome as well as his community ....

    And then the operator should be fired. He spent all that damn time talkng to that man ... he was supposed to take the damn call and dispatch the officers ... he exaserbated the caller by goin back and forth over laws and ish.... and teling the man your arent gonna go and shoot anyone ... if ou go out there youre gonna get shot ... that was a challenge to the man .. how dumb ....

    and our children listen to this garbage promoting criminal activity, selling drugs, breaking an entering, shootin people for stepping on your shoes, being promiscuous and then mistreating the women and being a deadbeat dad and say it aint mine ... with no one to tell them otherwise they go out and emulate this shyt .. then when the get soem fire in their ass or chest then here we go trying to uphold them in THEIR WRONG !!!!!


    THEY WERE BREAKING INTO SOMEONES home to take their things tha they worked for ... heirlooms, and things that cant be replaced .... wha right do they have to do that? it would be different if they were invlved in legal activity minding their business ... and were attacked. Also .. they came onto the man's property .... that was his ticket to shoot .... thy comin at him ...and fuk anyone who says he shouldnt have gone outside ... he can go outside on his own prperty in his own yard anytime he wants to .. fuk outta here ....

    thats the problem .. with these damn criminal bad azz thugs goin around victimizing everybody .. black and white .. making them scared to go outside .... FUK that....!!!!!Shoot em in their motherfukkin azz .... so they know that regular , productive, LA ABIDING tiens are tired, they are NT going to take over what we have worked for .... and we are FED the FUK Up !!!!
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    HUEmanbro
    So Mlexperience it's right to take people lives over materialistic stuff is what you and others on here are saying? So material things are more valuable than your life. What if a someone robbed u and and you refused to give it up since u value material things over you life and they shoot and kill you? Even though those dudes were wrong,but still didn't desever to get killed the dumb [EXPLETIVE] thought they were black and he was trigga happy. Ya'll condoning this ya'll might as well condone all the other racist stuff whites do to black people in America. Some people are just born ignorant.
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    HUEmanbro
    Totalevolution,they were latin probably latin blacks so what's your excuse now?because I know u think they were Black Americans from what you wrote in your comment.
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    MyBoaz13
    The LOVE of money is the root of all evil. Material possession does not hold the same value of someone's life. God is the only one to judge us for our actions, and this man had no right to take the law into his own hands by pre-meditating his murderous actions. He has a severe superior complex and thought that he was, in fact, better than the dispatcher that he was speaking with. He was given orders and he broke them.

    The two men were ABSOLUTELY wrong, and should have been convicted and punished for this crime. We are to obey the Laws of the Land while on this earth and not take the law into our own hands. Murder is murder. You reap what you sew. You cannot take 2 lives and get away with it.

    To those who feel as if they can verbally attack someone for believing that this man is wrong. It is humanly possible for those of us without hate in our hearts, to disagree with both crimes. Because we do not agree with the murder does not presuppose that we are in agreement with the robbery. That's an illogical fallacy.

    This man should be convicted of pre-meditated murder.
     

    MIZZ_B
    HUEmanbro, honestly, if you are a criminal You having the same color skin as me means nothing to me, period point blank. So, if a white man gets to you a black man an Asian man to me it doesn't matter. Black criminals do not represent me just because they're black. As far as us condoning all racism no. If you're innocent and a white man shoots you simply because you're black it's wrong, you did nothing, you were minding your own business. I don't want a criminal who was shot by a white man to be put in the same category as so many law abiding citizens who were black and were killed because they wanted to go to a white school or because they wanted to live in a white neighborhood. I'm sorry, but there is no comparison. If you are black and you break the law if a racist white man get to you oh well the same thing if a angry black man gets to you oh well. So many have said it's just material stuff, but for some it's about frustration and simply being tired of feeling that justice will never be done anyway. I live in Milwaukee a 7 year old boy was walking home with his siblings from the grocery store. A 16 year old robs the 7 year old and takes his groceries. This is crazy, people need to feel safe. We have to get gas, we have to get groceries, we have to go to work. We want to walk to our car to go to a movie or out to eat, but so many of us are afraid because of people like this. So, I think it goes a little deeper then just a radio or a necklace it's about a sense of security that is being lost in this society and people are fed up. Who knows maybe this man was robbed a week prior maybe he's been watching the news about all the crime going on and he just got upset. Who knows, what if the family would have been home and they shot and killed them. This may sound mean, but they won't have that chance rob another home or to maybe kill someone. I have a 17 year old niece that has to take the bus home from school, if I could come into work late and leave early to chauffeur her around I would, because I worry about her safety, especially every time I hear something bad on the news. Innocent kids being shot by stray bullets do we need these walking amongst us? I know I don't, as a single woman I want to feel safe and I don't. It's just material stuff that is so true, but even if they catch the guy I still have to pay twice, I already paid for the car once and the radio once I got to pay for it again regardless if they catch him or not. I didn't do anything to him. I was in the bed minding my own business. My neighbor saw the guy looking in cars and told him to leave and why in the hell is he looking in these people cars. He left and came back and that's when he stole from me. He's out making money off of my material possession may never get caught. I don't have a radio and plastic on my window and it's 30 degrees outside, but we take pity on people like that? These criminals do not care about us. I think if you're bold enough to break into someones house, you're probably bold enough to shoot them if you feel the need to. I bet you they wouldn't have any problem shooting you if it came down to it while you guys are sticking up for them.
     

    kissiejeter
    I AM A PROUD BLACK WOMAN
    no matter the race u should never take anyone's life UNLESS your life is at stake. he did not have the shoot them down like dogs he could have given the cops a discription of them and let the cops handle their business. He had already made up his mind to shoot them regardless of race or color he stated IM NOT LETTING THEM GET AWAY THIS AINT RIGHT. IF IT HAD OF BEEN THE NEIGHBORS THAT I KNOW I WOULD OF BEEN DONE SOMETHING. he did not care what color they weree he justs wanted to punish them and he did that. HE IS CRAZY CRAZY CRAZY and he should go to jail. if the cops shoot a criminal that has no weapon he goes on paid off duty until investagation is over if found guilty they charge them and this FOOL should be charged also. If this guys were in this man's house then i would agree with him shooting them but they were at someone else's house and they were outside LEAVING!!!!! I KNOW THE MONEY!!!!! we'll money is replacable a life is'nt. just think what if the criminals were relation to u your brother, your father, cousin, etc.. this could have bee their first time doing something like this them going to jail and living amonst other dangerous criminals could actually change people IT CHANGED ME !!!!! makes u think twice about life but these men PROBABLY never got that secound chance. WE ALL HAVE DONE SOME WRONG BEFORE DONT FRONT.
     

    Yve
    He announced he was going to do it on the phone, chambered the round walked out his of house and killed....two men.
    Came back to the phone and announced he had no choice they were in his front yard coming toward him.....

    Now lets be real, this was an ambush, plain and simple...
    and if your wondering if I would want my neighbors to kill over my DVD player...the answer is NO...thats the mark of a psychopath


    I doubt he gets probation....
     

    HUEmanbro
    Mizzb, when did I say those criminals were right and they represent black people? Even if they were right I would still feel the same way they were latin but, that dude didn't have no right to take their lives over material [EXPLETIVE] when his life wasn't in danger and the police specifically told him not to go out and TAKE THE LAW IN HIS OWN HANDS. To all the iganat mofos that think this shyt was justifiable need their head examins and put the crack pipe down or whatever you're smoking. The hillbilly thought the guys were black anyway for his reason for killing them and that should tell you imbeciles something right there.
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    HUEmanbro
    kissejeter,preach to these bufoons. They going to get their karma though. Stupidity is the worst thing to be born with.
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    MLExperience
    HUEman

    first of all youc an make a point w/o namecalling .. to call me or anyone else buffons or ignorant says something about you ...

    Second out of my whole post all you got is .... materialistic goods .... its easy for you to say material is not worth a life .. i dont care if its a dollar..... it the principle.... if i worked for it ... you have NO RIGHT no matter what color to come and take it ... if he went out and they came in his yard .... then had a rigth to shoot them.

    Also .. when you commit a crime, death IS A REAL possibility .... you wanna say ..... he was wrong but i havent heard the robbers were wrong ONCE .... and when you do say they were wrong ... you say they were wrong BUT ..... No .... there are not buts .... they had No Business breaking into anyones house point blank .... could it have been handles a different way ? certainly ... but it wasnt ... so ?????man burglars get killed .... is burglarizing homes something that has to be done? Hell NO ..... and CRIMINALS have too many damn rights as it is .... and we all know that they would have gotten a slap on the wrist and let back out to terrorize again .... the bad thing is these thugs pray on their own people .. they practice on us then go out into the world and then have laws to protect them ... WHO protects those of us who abide by the laws, work for a living and pay taxes ... ? then when they do go to prison ... they still steal from us in the form of our tax dollars going to take care of them ....


    like I said ... heirlooms are amterials that CANNOT be replaced and i dont give a damn what it is ... if its mine .... you have no right to take it from me ... and then you compare this to someone taking something from me and i dont give it to them and they shoot me ? How the hell is that the same ? that sounds like you are trying to say people should steal and take things from people .. and people sholdnt fight back .. that cool for you but no..... i would shoot them ... if I was armed... if not i would try my best to maime them ... i dont bother ANYONE ... but dammit if you bring it ... Ill be dammed if you are gonna victimize me and I sit and twiddle my fukking thumbs .... especially after my own life experience.... NO .... and this is NOT what GOD has in store for me.

    People are already scared because of people like this ... being victimized in their homes and communities whould they sit inside in fear and no one fight back ? just let the thugs have it huh? so if the thugs come and rob you every day .. and come when police are not there and do it quickly ... will you never ever fight them back ? will you never try to make them stop? you are a criminals dream then ... post your address so they can start coming to you and leave the rest of us alone ... now see how i expressed my view and didn't call you a name ? i dont know you and neither do you me ... and i'd appreciate it if you wouldn't refer to me as ignorant because i am FAR from it ...



    thanks .
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    MLExperience
    PS ... the man didnt shoot them because they were getting away .. he shot them because they were coming at him ON HIS PROPERTY .. had they ran away they wouldnt have been shot ... so .. when they came on his property .. do you think they were coming to shake hands and have coffee? hell no ... thats a threat and then He is brandishing a fukking shot gun ... so hell they were dumb as well ..


    when they broke into a home ... race went out the window and had nothing to do with it .... they became criminals ... Black criminals deserve their fate too ... there is no such thing as Criminal Affirmative action .. you get to committ 10 burglaries as opposed to bob's 4 because you are black ....

    I think its a shame that when they terrorize other blacks and Kill and murder other blacks ... often nothing is done ... THAT is when the book should be thrown at them ... but its then they let them slide ... because if they give people like this enough leeway they will kill all of us !!!! and create chaos for US
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    MLExperience
    Also I am in Texas ... dunno where you are ... but Thats how it is down here .... and the Laws were passed on Sept 1st giving homeowners a LOT more freedom to protect their property and communities .... WE DONT PLAY THAT DOWN here ... you may not like it .. and thats fine .. dont bring ya azz to Texas thinking youre gonna make a living violating homeowners ... WE ..... SHOOT!!!!! THE END . Now ask YOURSELF ..... THEY BROKE IN TO STEAL MATERIAL GOODS .... now they are dead .... WAS IT WORTH THE RISK ? IT IS AN ASSUMED RISK when you do that.
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    Total_Revolution
    @HUEmanbro..MY FAMILY AND FRIENDS THAT I VISITING IN PRISON AND MAKING MONTHLY PAYROLL DEDUCTIONS TO PUT ON THEIR BOOKS IN PRISON ARE BLACK AND THEY ONLY CALLED ME AFTER THE WERE SENTENCED TO PRISON. THEY KNEW NOT TO SHARE ANY CRIMINAL IDEAS WITH ME BECAUSE I HAVE ZERO TOLERANCE FOR THUG LIFE. MY FAMILY MEMBER THAT KNEW ABOUT THEIR THUG LIFE DID NOTHING TO STOP THEM BECAUSE THEY ENJOYING NEW JUNK. MY COMMENTS ARE DIRECTED AT MY FAMILY MEMBER WHO IS ADDICTED TO MTO OR ANYONE ELSE WHO CELEBRATE BREAKING AND ENTERING PERKS.
     

    crazyass
    Now maybe I'm wrong but I heard the shooter say he was going to shoot BEFORE he went outside so his defense case is out the window. There is no law in the country that says you can shoot someone for coming on your lawn. You CAN shoot if they come into your house. Seems to me if he wanted to do something, he had a good chance of stopping the crime itself by making a lot of noise with the gun or getting into his car and blowing the horn or whatever. If he gets away with that, it will be open season on anyone. Dead people tell no tales so all you have to do to kill someone is to say you saw them breaking into a house. Think about THAT. No matter how you slice it, he murdered two people and will have to answer for it to someone higher than man. Believe that!
     

    Total_Revolution
    @HUEmanbro..MY FAMILY AND FRIENDS THAT I VISITING IN PRISON AND MAKING MONTHLY PAYROLL DEDUCTIONS TO PUT ON THEIR BOOKS IN PRISON ARE BLACK AND THEY ONLY CALLED ME AFTER THE WERE SENTENCED TO PRISON. THEY KNEW NOT TO SHARE ANY CRIMINAL IDEAS WITH ME BECAUSE I HAVE ZERO TOLERANCE FOR THUG LIFE. MY FAMILY MEMBER THAT KNEW ABOUT THEIR THUG LIFE DID NOTHING TO STOP THEM BECAUSE THEY WERE ENJOYING B&E PERKS. MY COMMENTS ARE DIRECTED AT MY FAMILY MEMBER WHO IS ADDICTED TO MTO OR ANYONE ELSE WHO CELEBRATE BREAKING AND ENTERING PERKS
     

    ebonytorpedo
    LMAO!! that's what they get!! steal'n azz Mofo's!! yeah dude could have stayed in he's house but.....eff that!!! if those two jerk-offs got away with that i'm sure they would have come back and hit up more folks!! this one is not a black vs white issue. FU@K AROUND, LAY AROUND!! did that dude say "there getting away with the LOOT"?? LOL
     

    OWtlaw1963
    These fool were NOT BLACK/AFRICAN-AMERICAN....They WERE DOMINICIAN !!!!!
     

    plannbb
    At least that area doesn't have to pay $40,000 a year to jail them for 15 years. They should'nt have been stealing!! When you steal you take a risk of that happening. Yes, I do value my possesions over a lazy F@@ck who would try to take them. I wish he was my neighbor.
     

    1hotfiremarshal
    I'm sorry yall, but two GROWN AZZ NICCAS out there burglarizing hard working citizens property? I don't agree with what the old man did, but come on yall. These niccas should have had jobs their damn selves! They should have been at work THAT TIME OF DAY trying to make an honest living instead of robbing people of hard earned things. Their burglarizing comes in the same territory as their death. They took a chance on going into someones house not knowing someone would be inside to blast their azzez but it just so happens they got blasted outside. I don't feel sorry for them because anyone living the life of crime will die by the life of crime and they just so happened to get theirs early! In the old Bible days they were stoned for stealing and God allowed the punishment to happen. Is it different because the man that killed them is white and from Pasadena? Phuck that! Those niccas had families and kids. Is this what they were teaching their children? What a proud papa!!! They should have been at work earning an honest living instead of terrorizing people because being robbed is like being raped....you stay terrorized in your own home forever and people should feel safe in their own homes. Yall sitting up in here taking up for these phucking thugs like they are the victims. Yall are stupid! If they were not black it wouldn't be an issue but it's double standards in this chat room. The point is the niccas were grown azz men who knew what the phuck they were doing, they took a chance and CRAPPED THE PHUCK OUT!!! Point blank! Go ahead, feel sorry for them if you want to and take the side of the ones who were doing wrong instead of the one who did right. I am black and a female and I sleep with 2 men every night.....GLOCK 40 AND KIMBER 1911(5 INCH BARREL).....BRING IT IF YOU WANT TO!!!!
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    LostChild
    Its interesting that he says he is goin to shoot them i believe i heard him said he'g goin to kill them right before he goes outside and that they were unarm and not on his property.
    Although they are criminals, taking the law into your own hands are wrong the last time i check... and
    THE FIRST TWO SHOTS CAN BE UNDERSTOOD AS SELF DEFENCE; ONE FOR EACH HOWEVER A THIRD ISNT SELF DEFENSE... SO WHY ISNT HE BEING CHARGE?
     

    1hotfiremarshal
    @ MLExeperience

    BTW I live in Texas too, about 15 minutes from Pasadena and you are right....Texans don't play that shiit. Once again, their actions came in the same territory as death. Aint nobody on this site making any mention of what if a kid was in that house alone after coming home from school. What if those guys would have killed the kid so they wouldn't leave any witnesses behind? The fact of the matter is they were in THE WRONG PLACE AT THE RIGHT TIME!!! They were dead wrong for what they did. If they took the time to mastermind a plan to violate someone, then they should have planned a SHOULDA, WOULDA, COULDA! They shouldn't have been in that house period. How hard is that for these stupid posters to see that? THEY PUT THEMSELVES IN THAT SITUATION. I am confused here.....THESE ARE THE SAME POSTERS WHO RALLIED ON FREEING THE JENA 6 BECAUSE THE BOYS IN FACT WERE INNOCENT, BUT IN THE SAME BREATH THESE DUMMIES ARE RALLYING FOR JUSTICE OF TWO DUMB AZZ CRIMINALS WHO WERE COMMITTING A CRIME.....WHAT THE PHUCK? THESE POSTERS HAVE THEIR PRIORITIES ALL PHUCKED UP OR THEY DON'T KNOW WHICH BAND WAGON THEY WANT TO JUMP THE PHUCK ON!!!!
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    MyBoaz13
    @MLExperience

    “its easy for you to say material is not worth a life .. i dont care if its a dollar..... it the principle.... if i worked for it ... you have NO RIGHT no matter what color to come and take it.”
    So your position is that it’s okay to kill someone over a dollar? Because “it’s the principle,” and not the crime as you’ve stated? That is illogical at the source. I guess it depends on where you stand morally. Although, Texans are supposed to be “hardcore Christians,” they have no problem with murder. Capital punishment and gun toting citizens who think that it’s okay to take the law into their own hands. Another illogical point in your argument is that you are basing the premise of your debate on the justification of people defending their property. Where you are confusing me is justifying someone killing over property that is not theirs. Where do you draw the line?

    “Also .. when you commit a crime, death IS A REAL possibility”
    Another illogical argument on your part. Prosecution and jail time is the possibility, not death. Death can be a consequence if a person is sentenced to the death penalty; however, in this case, there should have been no possibility of murder, due to the fact that the victims of the robbery were not home to defend their own property. Another possibility could arise in a police shoot out, which could not have occurred due to the fact that the men were unarmed.
    “he was wrong but i havent heard the robbers were wrong ONCE”
    Why does anyone have to state the obvious? Burglary is wrong, however, killing over material possession is not right.
    “they had No Business breaking into anyones house point blank .... could it have been handles a different way ? certainly ... but it wasnt ... so ?????”
    So two men are dead. Do you value life at all?

    “and we all know that they would have gotten a slap on the wrist and let back out to terrorize again”
    A fallacious assumption, not likely to happen to two minorities in Texas.
    “the bad thing is these thugs pray on their own people”
    I hope that you’re not making racist implications. Statistics say that white people are the thugs in America, not blacks or any other minority.

    “then when they do go to prison ... they still steal from us in the form of our tax dollars going to take care of them”
    Would you also say that our president is stealling money from us by funding the Iraq war, something that many of us are fundamentally against, with our tax dollars? What about free birth control, that many people may be fundamentally against? Americans pay taxes that support things that they don’t believe in everyday. It’s a way of life.

    I’m going to end it there because I discern that you are merely ranting emotionally instead of debating the facts. You’ve incorporated race into the equation as if Black people are the only one’s who burglarize homes. Are you even aware that this field of criminal activity is dominated by white people? Your emotion does not make what this man theoretically correct. It was wrong. He broke the law and he MURDERED two people in cold blood when a legal official gave him specific instruction not to. It’s not about color. Him being wrong does not presuppose the the burglers were right. It’s obvious that they were wrong; there is no doubt about that fact; however, this man premeditated a murder and shot to kill. It would be a bit more understood if he shot to injure. Thereafter, he immediately felt guilty and concocted a lie. That’s the obvious.
     

    MIZZ_B
    MLExperience, You basically said it for me. I don't know how many times I have to say it goes deeper than material possessions. People are tired of being afraid and feeling like prisoners in their own homes and communities because of these thieves. To be honest I don't need criminals walking around and I'd rather have my DVD then to have them running free. You made such a good point when you brought up them getting a slap on the wrist and getting out and doing the same thing. There are times where people go to jail or prison and they learn from that, but not always. We shouldn't have to live like this. Some people brought up the point that it took too long for the police to come. That man was on the phone with the operator for a minute, had time to shoot and come back in his house. That's the issue with the justice system, that's why so many want to take the law into their own hands. it's like a lot of times the only point for calling the police is to file a report about something after the fact because they always get there after the fact even if you call them while something is going on. People are getting fed up with living like this. Yes, it does seem like the criminals have more rights than we do, that's why it's so easy to commit crimes in the first place. I'm not saying that what he did may not have been legal, but I sure understand and I don't care if he was a white redneck hillbilly or not.
     

    MIZZ_B
    This topic really has me going because I hate when people steal from others. The argument some are trying to make is that it's only material possessions. How many times have these criminals shot someone after they got what they wanted? Keep in mind for someone to rob someone they don't think like normal people,they don't have a conscious maybe if they did they would bring the stuff back or stop in the middle of it. They wouldn't care about you or your life if you had something that they wanted. There isn't even honor among thieves and I believe that to be true, they're scum. They don't value your life or anyone else.
     

    MIZZ_B
    Obviously, we value life and the quality of life. That's why we don't go around robbing, rapping or terrorizing people. How can other people value their life when they obviously didn't value their own? Valuing life isn't just about staying alive or not killing people it's about living a productive life and about supporting people to do positive things that will benefit them. That's what valuing life is. They didn't value life if they were out committing crimes in the first place.
     

    1hotfiremarshal
    @ MIZZB

    Hats off to you!!! I see there are some sensible and logical posters on here. Thanks a million!
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    1hotfiremarshal
    @ MYBOAZ13.....

    You stated in your post that "A LEGAL OFFICIAL TOLD HIM NOT TO SHOOT".....

    Well, just so you know, the 911 dispatcher is not a legal official. He is an at-will employee that happens to be a non-civil service employee who's job is in communication....hence, a regular civilian who just so happens to work at the police department but without the credentials of a public servant, who holds no authority. In other words, he is a receptionist paid to answer emergency calls! Get your facts straight!!!
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    hotbunny
    He'll be prosecuted for this bceause first of all he stepped off of his property to shoot people. I know in FL you have the right to use DEADLY FORCE if someone comes into your home to commit a robbery, but I've never heard of a state where you can just shoot someone who is NOT ON YOUR PROPERTY and get away with it, heck no. He won't get into real trouble, but he has to be prosecuted, especially if it wasn't on his property.
     

    hotbunny
    KUDOS to the neighbor though, robbery is a risky business. GO WORK DAMMIT!
     

    hotbunny
    Why are 9-1-1 operators so damn nonchalant? There's no sense of urgency at all in this situation. He needs to stop asking supid questions and send the police.
     

    callicrew
    that bitch just wanted to shoot some black people. he is a racists ass and he finally got his chance to use his gun. if those were my relatives, i would walk into the police station and put one right in his brain, and proclaim i had to do it. he is a piece of [EXPLETIVE] and i hope he goes straight to hell. he was in no [EXPLETIVE] danger. he wanted to shoot those black men. he wasn't concerned about those people house being robbed, he said he didn't even know the people. he was safe and sound in his home. he did not have to come out. and funny how the 911 operator didn't threaten him with prosecution. he kept pleading for him not to go outside, but he shouldn't threatened his ass, letting him know that if he shoots anyone, he would definitely be going to jail. i didn't hear that not once. but the 911 operator sure got upset and his voice got deep when he knew his officers were on the scene and he made sure he knew to put that damn gun down cause he didn't want them shot. i swear, if it were someone i knew i would plug that bitch. he better get arrested because i'm following up on this [EXPLETIVE], and if i find out his ass didn't get prosecuted, i'm taking a early vacation to texas. bitch betta grab his gun when he see my ass. i doubt if it helps, seriously.
     

    callicrew
    there are some dumb bastards on here with screwed up thinking like mizz b and 1 hotfiremarshall. i think you guys are racists bastards as well. because there is no legal precendent that back up your opinion. what if someone walked up to your ass on the street and shot you, claiming you tried to rob their house. there is a reason laws are made. in order to shoot someone for robbing your property, they have to come inside your dwelling. then and only then can the legal system justify you shooting a person. this was not the case. and any opinion other than what i wrote is pure dumb and simple. there are some prejudice people on here, making excuses for this racists bitch. he is a racist bitch masquerading as if he hates crime. he was not [EXPLETIVE] threatened, he simply hated to see black people in his [EXPLETIVE] neighborhood, and if you think anything else, then you're a [EXPLETIVE] fool, and i hope your asses go straight to hell with him.
     

    callicrew
    there are some dumb bastards on here with screwed up thinking like mizz b and 1 hotfiremarshall. i think you guys are racists bastards as well. because there is no legal precendent that back up your opinion. what if someone walked up to your ass on the street and shot you, claiming you tried to rob their house. there is a reason laws are made. in order to shoot someone for robbing your property, they have to come inside your dwelling. then and only then can the legal system justify you shooting a person. this was not the case. and any opinion other than what i wrote is pure dumb and simple. there are some prejudice people on here, making excuses for this racists bitch. he is a racist bitch masquerading as if he hates crime. he was not [EXPLETIVE] threatened, he simply hated to see black people in his [EXPLETIVE] neighborhood, and if you think anything else, then you're a [EXPLETIVE] fool, and i hope your asses go straight to hell with him.
     

    MIZZ_B
    First off callicrew, I never came on here and insulted and called anyone out of their names because their opinion was different from my own. That's where maturity comes in and you lack maturity if you can't state an argument without resorting to name calling like a child in elementary school. I don't know where you get the whole racism thing from. I'm black, I probably do more for black people than what you do. I'm 25 years old, a college graduate, I worked three jobs to put myself through college. From the time I have been in High School, I have worked with inner city youth and still do to this day. I have mentored to them, took them to musicals, tutored them. Even brought them out in their own neighborhoods to paint over the graffiti in their area. To me being black has nothing to do with robbing people at all. I encourage young black people to be law abiding citizens, to not get caught up in the police. Because I don't condone my people breaking the law, I'm a racist? If you feel that way that makes you a racist because you don't want better for your own people. We don't know how he has reacted to everyday black people in his area or in general, we honestly don't know that. I know how he has acted to a bunch of criminals who happen to be minority still unsure if they were black or not, but honestly I don't care what color they were, they were still breaking the law. Who is to say that he would not have reacted the same way if the person was white, maybe, maybe not? All I know is that at the end of the day. black, white, whatever they were doing something they had no business doing. If they would have stayed home, we would not be having this conversation. Is anyone denying that this was a burglary? Were these just everyday citizens walking the street and he shot them? I don't have to worry about him shooting me for robbing someone because I would get a second or third job before I resort to that, my track record shows I've done it in the past. If he simply shot me for just walking down the street that's a different story.
     

    MyBoaz13
    "1hotfiremarshal

    @ MYBOAZ13.....

    You stated in your post that "A LEGAL OFFICIAL TOLD HIM NOT TO SHOOT".....

    Well, just so you know, the 911 dispatcher is not a legal official. He is an at-will employee that happens to be a non-civil service employee who's job is in communication....hence, a regular civilian who just so happens to work at the police department but without the credentials of a public servant, who holds no authority. In other words, he is a receptionist paid to answer emergency calls! Get your facts straight!!!"

    Out of my entire post, this is what you decide to respond to? You decide to resort to a war of words and thereafter an insult. This is the main reason why I rarely post here, because people are moreso concerned with arguing and cursing one another out than actually having an intelligible debate.
     

    MyBoaz13
    Mizz B..

    What does your personal life, and achievements therein, have to do with your opinion? It would be relevant if those who had a different opinion did not have accomplishments of their own. Moreover, the 2 robbers/victims were not African-American.
     

    225wpm
    I was thinking to myself, and I said I don't fault that man for shooting they stupid behinds. But then I thought, and I said, "Self, what was that man thinking when he grabbed that weapon and decided to shoot?" Self said, "Letting er'body in that nearby town, from whence those two dumbazzes came from, know that if any one else ever get the notion to mosey on over and annoint themselves liberators of other people's shyt, expect to get a mutthole blown right in that there azz of theirs." I then rationalized that, yes, I would love to have that neighbor looking out for me. I read the article that was posted, and it noted that those people in that neighborhood slept with the doors unlocked. That man made sure to set an example of how a village takes care of their own. Good looking. And to be this clear, there's no purpose in pointing if you're not going to use it.
     

    Philly2ATL
    dang this a long 911 kill i see how people be dying waiting for the cops to come.
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    denise26
    @ hotbunny

    "He'll be prosecuted for this bceause first of all he stepped off of his property to shoot people. I know in FL you have the right to use DEADLY FORCE if someone comes into your home to commit a robbery, but I've never heard of a state where you can just shoot someone who is NOT ON YOUR PROPERTY and get away with it, heck no. He won't get into real trouble, but he has to be prosecuted, especially if it wasn't on his property."

    Sure he will whenever he see God.This is the great state of Texas. Our laws are totally different from Florida laws. Texas still have a law that state that you can hang a theif if they steal your dayum livestock.Quite ridiculous, but its true. 2 there was a certain man not too long ago that lives in (Galveston, Tx) who killed his black neighbor and then dismemebered his body. He admitted to doing it but the jury found him NOT GUILTY(and he didnt even rob him). That scenario is far worse than this one. Not only did he kill, and dismember the mans body, but he admitted it.Now he walks around free and of course he was WHITE. I can pretty much bet anything that this man will NOT be convicted, however he will recieved the "good neighbor" award.He probably is the leader of the damn neighborhood watch program, and the two dummies just happened to roll up in from of the H.W.M.I.C. (THE HEAD WHITE MAN IN CHARGE)residential establishment. LOL
     

    Strwbrymuffin
    Did he kill him or just shot him???? I really don't think this was a race issue here(even though dude was hot headed). He felt like if someone could rob his neighbors in broad daylight they probably would get his house too. Those black boys shouldn't have been in the house in the first place. So ya'll really can't thro the race card out on this one.
     

    MIZZ_B
    MyBoaz13, Did you really read what I said? My point for bringing that up is one, I was called a racist because I didn't go against the shooter. I'm black and what I said to the person that called me a racist is that, I've done more to uplift and encourage our youth then what he probably has, just because I don't stick up for criminals does not make me a racist. That's why I brought that up. My point with me being a college graduate is that I stated I worked three jobs to support myself while going to school instead of deciding to go out and rob from others. As we all should know, getting a degree alone and working three jobs is a challenge, but combing those things is an even tougher challenge, but I chose that route over being a criminal. To me I don't care what color the parties were they were involved. Just because you're black doesn't mean that black people should excuse when you break the law, some people don't like that I feel this way.
     

    MyBoaz13
    @Mizz_B

    "MyBoaz13, Did you really read what I said?"

    Yes.

    "My point for bringing that up is one, I was called a racist because I didn't go against the shooter"

    Which had nothing to do with your personal achievements.

    "I've done more to uplift and encourage our youth then what he probably has"

    *than..This is no different that a racist person claiming to have 'friends' in the racial group that he privately hates.

    "just because I don't stick up for criminals does not make me a racist"

    It certainly doesn't; however, those who disagree with the man kiling them does not pressuppose that we are 'sticking up for criminals.'

    "My point with me being a college graduate is that I stated I worked three jobs to support myself while going to school instead of deciding to go out and rob from others"

    Which does nothing to support your position in the debate. Because we are not in agreement with the man killing the robbers does not mean that we ARE in agreement with 'robbing your way through college.' There are others here who are on the opposite side of the debate who have accomplished more than you 'on paper.' Our personal accomplishments have nothing to do with our positions in the debate.

    "As we all should know, getting a degree alone and working three jobs is a challenge, but combing those things is an even tougher challenge, but I chose that route over being a criminal."

    But that's not something that you should stand on a soap-box for. You getting a degree, has nothing to do with the debate because you're implying that people who work to put their way through school absolutely cannot be criminals. That is a fallacy.

    "To me I don't care what color the parties were they were involved. Just because you're black doesn't mean that black people should excuse when you break the law"

    I don't think that anyone is excusing them. I think that many of you are riding that horse to stregnthen your moral position because, at the root, you have agreed with murder. It is hard to remove race from the equation on the second crime, becuase of the many racist occurances in the state of Texas. It is hard for people to fathom this person shooting two white men in cold blood. BUT...that has nothing to do with people believing that the murders were wrong.
     

    MyBoaz13
    I just think that you took that time as an opportunity to brag about yourself. That's my personal opinion. I could be wrong.
     

    MIZZ_B
    MyBoaz13, For you to be so bothered about that, maybe you have not accomplished much yourself I hate a particular race, why would I want to uplift and encourage them, that makes no sense. My pint as far as me bringing up my accomplishments is to show that we all struggle in life, I struggled in college to support myself. I didn't have a silver spoon put in mouth and worked hard to pay my tuition, for my books, for my car insurance I worked hard for that. If that meant me getting a second or third job I was going to do that. My point is there is no excuse for robbing someone you do what you have to do in life to support yourself as long as it is legal. I'm ot sure what race you are, but instead of being intimidating or envious of a black woman that works hard and sacrifice for what she wants just accept it. If you didn't have a problem with my accomplishments you would not focus so much more on that then anything else. If you have accomplished something in your life, maybe your one of those people that can't stand to see that other people are capable of accomplishing something as well. As far as what you said about racist people having friends of other races, a lot of people hang out with people, but they don't mean them any well. I'm not a racist, I love black people and I'm sure not a hater like you. Get a life. I would have never brought up any of that if I wasn't called a rcist and I did it to make a point, that if I can go to school and work three jobs and make it anybody can so there is no excuse for it.
     

    Mizzy99
    i have had my home broken into but, i don't think this guy should have took the liberty to fire his gone, he should have gone outside and told them to drop what they had and flashed his gun at them, and then let them run away
     

    MyBoaz13
    "MyBoaz13, For you to be so bothered about that, maybe you have not accomplished much yourself "

    Quite the contrary. What I don't do is promote all of my accomplishments to prove a point. I can debate without being condescending is all. To me, putting your way through school isn't a big deal. Most of my classmates did it.

    "I hate a particular race, why would I want to uplift and encourage them, that makes no sense. My pint as far as me bringing up my accomplishments is to show that we all struggle in life"

    That's a moot point; the people who robbed the home have probably struggled as well. You could have simply stated, 'we all have our struggles, but...' That's just my opinion.

    "I didn't have a silver spoon put in mouth and worked hard to pay my tuition, for my books, for my car insurance I worked hard for that. If that meant me getting a second or third job I was going to do that"

    We got it. We know that you paid your way through school, yada, yada, yada. That's commendable, but it's very common.

    "I'm ot sure what race you are, but instead of being intimidating or envious of a black woman that works hard and sacrifice for what she wants just accept it."

    I'm an African-American woman with 3 degrees who has travelled and lived all over Europe. I am an entrepreneur who came from very humble beginnings. Product of a single mom and a dope-fiend father. All this being said, I have the ability to debate a point without including my personal life in an irresponsible and unecessary way. I believe it's an illogical point because two people can grow up in the same environment and take two completely different paths. One can be a thief and the other could 'pay their way through school.' That's simply my opinion on the matter; you disagree, which is the fundamental right granted to you by the first Amendment of the Constitution of the United States.

    "If you didn't have a problem with my accomplishments you would not focus so much more on that then anything else"

    Another fallacy. Because I think that you bragging about your personal life was not necessary, you assume that I have a problem with your accomplishments. I applaud them, but seriously, they're nothing to be jealous of. I would not boast about my life to you because it would be redundant; however, I hardly have a reason to be jealous of anyone. I just know how to have a proper debate without the inclusion of fallacies. No one on your side of the fence have presented a solid argument on why it was okay for this man to shoot people who were not robbing him. That is the topic at hand, not the background lives of the thieves. It doesn't matter at this point because they WERE thieves, and now they're dead.

    "maybe your one of those people that can't stand to see that other people are capable of accomplishing something as well"

    Nope, I know that we will never arrive economically as a people unless we encourage one another to position themselves to get capital. 400+ years of white people earning, saving, compounding, investing, and building our financial markets will only be reconciled if we collectively look out for one another. Instead of making assumptions and ranting emotionally, think outside of the box.

    "As far as what you said about racist people having friends of other races, a lot of people hang out with people, but they don't mean them any well. I'm not a racist, I love black people and I'm sure not a hater like you"

    This is redundant and argumentive. Kudos to you for "loving black people." I made the comment to teach you on how unecessary the comment was.

    "Get a life. I would have never brought up any of that if I wasn't called a rcist and I did it to make a point, that if I can go to school and work three jobs and make it anybody can so there is no excuse for it"

    Where is the logic in that? Let us know what you learned in the school that you worked so hard to put yourself through. Everyone has their demons; just because stealing is not yours does not mean that you can judge someone else for theirs. There is no sin that is not common to man. No sin is greater than the next, so whatever sin(s) you've committed in life..you're no different than a thief or a robber. This is precisely why I don't judge people based on my life. There is no logic in it.
     

    MyBoaz13
    Oh, and I'm in my mid-20's as well. :)
     

    MLExperience
    Okay Mizz B

    My Boaz just answered they why .... daddy was a crackhead. If you dont work you will steal in one form or another .. so she has a soft spot for the criminal .. as do the rest of these people defending the robbers ....

    People saying materials can be replaced is not true. Heirlooms CANNOT be replaced, History and Meaning cannot be replaced. The Point of the matter is, YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO GO AND TAKE SOMETHING THAT SOMEONE ELSE HAS WORKED HARD AND PAID FOR. Thats the principle of the matter.

    I am convinced the only people defending the actions if a theif are people who A. Are theives and criminals themselves, B, have relatives who are thieves and criminals, C have no posessions worth anything that anyone would want anyway which is why they can say posessions arent worth life.

    Also My Boaz... You response to me I read and it really didnt say anything ... All you did was take every point I mentioned and turned it onto someone else. So your excuse is .. well blacks arent the only ones who rob .. more whites do it .... I am not concerned about whites .... I am concerned about the Blacks who are burglarizing the homes in their and MY own neighborhood. The statistics for whites doing this or that will always be higher because there are more of them... the only thing their statistics are lower in are things like Obesity, Heart Disease, High Cholesterol, Kidney diesase, and Diabetes...

    And you trivialized my comment. No in value a life is more valuable than a dollar, However, my right to protect myself and my property and My community yeah .... its worth a life if it comes down to that. There is always a choice in a matter like that.... you can abide by the laws and rules and laws of Natural law and Not steal .... or you can decide to steal from someone and once you do that then you are violating their rights ... and when you do that, you have to be stopped.

    We have different views ont his matter and neither of us will make the other change their outlook. We disagree THE END.
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    abdu_lateef1
    My opion i have read all commets and alot of people have the wrong idea by LAW that man is wrong i do not see how any body can justify that white or black america is for white people every type of police beatings comes from white officers i have never hear of 5 blacks police jumping on one person white people are scared of blacks look how they do in new york cali texas even if you are white if your screws are tight you will see the wrong and if those young men was any FAMILY to any of you you will not be ouick to say what you say WHITE FOLKS IS NOT THE JUDGE AND JURY OR ARE THEY IF IT WAS A MAN OF ANOTHER RACE HE WOULD BE IN JAIL FIRING A FIRE ARM IN PUBLIC IS A CRIME IN IT SELF AND I DOUGHT THAT ANY OF YOU CAN LOOK AT SOMEBODY AND KILL THEM OVER A BAG OF WHAT YOU DONT EVEN NO WHAT IT IS OR WHO THE OWNERS TO THE HOUSE IS OR WHAT THEY WAS INVOLED IN I LOVE MY PEOPLE BUT WE MAKE STUPID DECISIONS SOMETIMES BUT WHAT WILL YOU SAY WHEN LIL BILLY GETS KILLED OR HIS ASS WOPED FOR SOMETHING HE DID AND THE PERSON WAS BLACK OH JENA 6
     

    abdu_lateef1
    NO BODY HAS THE RIGHT TO TAKE LIFE BUT WE ALL HAVE A RIGHT TO A TRIAL NOT IN YOUR FRONT YARD YEA THEY WAS WRONG VERY WRONG BUT THEY HAVE BEEN PUNISHED AND THEIR FAMILIES TO AND YOU NEVER NO SOMEBODY SITUATION I DONT CARE HOW THEY WAS RASIED OR WARE THEY CAME FROM THEIR DEAD NOW AND NOW IT IS TIME FOR THE HILLBILLY TO PAY MANSLUATER OR SOMETHING HE WAS WRONG AND A POLICE TOLD HIM TO STA HIS ASS IN THE HOUSE AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT HEAR THAT THEN TO SAY YOUR DEAD AND SHOOT THEM NO THGAT IS NOT RIGHT WHEN WHITE MEN STOP BEING SO SCARRY WE WONT HAVE THESE PROBLEMS AND BEFORE ANY BOY COMMET WHITE KIDS MEX AND BLACK DO CRIMES IT IS NOT JUST BLACK IT IS JUST ARE WRONG IS ALWAYS PUT OUT NOT GOOD AND IT IS ALOT OUT THEIR LOOK WHAT DENZEL DID IN TEXAS LAST MONTH OH IT WAS GOO YOU DID NOT HEAR ABOUT IT OR THAT MORE WHITE WEMEN IS ON WALFARE OH YOU DID NOT NO YEA LOOK IT UP FED CINSIS REPORT
     

    lycris
    This situation is all together crazy... I feel that regardless of race. They did not have to be shot and killed. He could have held them at gun point until the police arrived. Or just kept his @ss in the house. Had the shooter been black my opinion would still be the same. Thats everyone's problem.... they always notice race first instead of the issue at hand. Either way all three people were wrong. The robbers, the shooters. Oh yeah and the police for not responding promptly enough. Thats all to it.
     

    MyBoaz13
    As you may notice, I debate line for line so that there is no confusion or manipulation of the truth.


    “My Boaz just answered they why .... daddy was a crackhead. If you dont work you will steal in one form or another .. so she has a soft spot for the criminal .. as do the rest of these people defending the robbers ....”

    LOL. WHAT!!!!!????? Are you kidding me? I don’t have a soft spot for criminals, I simply think that this person was wrong. How dare you make such a false implication when you have no idea of my feelings regarding criminals. My father was a junkie spoiled by his mother, not a criminal. So what is your next theory? I have the love and fear of God in me, which is why I do not judge anyone because YOU HAVE SINNED which is no different than being a robber. He who is without sin.....

    “People saying materials can be replaced is not true. Heirlooms CANNOT be replaced, History and Meaning cannot be replaced. The Point of the matter is, YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO GO AND TAKE SOMETHING THAT SOMEONE ELSE HAS WORKED HARD AND PAID FOR. Thats the principle of the matter”

    That is true, but that doesn’t justify murdering someone who is not bothering YOU. As stated before, you guys are not sticking to the topic. This man who murdered these two men was not protecting his own property. I sense a lot of emotion, which has you two jumping around and not sticking to, or making, a solid point. How do you justify someone killing people who were not a threat to them?

    “I am convinced the only people defending the actions if a theif are people who A. Are theives and criminals themselves, B, have relatives who are thieves and criminals, C have no posessions worth anything that anyone would want anyway which is why they can say posessions arent worth life.”

    Or are God fearing people who believe that our reward is not of this earth. How logical is your way of thinking? Because you said it, it must be true? I'm sorry, but your conclusions and emotional rants are making you lose all credibility.

    “Also My Boaz... You response to me I read and it really didnt say anything ... All you did was take every point I mentioned and turned it onto someone else.”

    Why not elaborate? ‘Someone else?’

    “So your excuse is .. well blacks arent the only ones who rob .. more whites do it”

    No my point was directed toward those who were making this a black thing by saying “Ni**as are the ones who do this..and so on.” I provided you, and anyone, with the FACTS (NOT EMOTION)that this was not a ‘black crime’ by any stretch of the imagination. I didn’t think that I would have to explain that. You can read just the same as anyone else.

    “I am concerned about the Blacks who are burglarizing the homes in their and MY own neighborhood”

    So you are justifying the generalization of African Americans? I’m glad that I know this now because this just made your credibility to have an unbiased discussion impossible. Thank you for exposing yourself and your prejudices. I'm sure that everyone reading this are glad to know that discussing this matter with a person like yourself will not be effective.

    “The statistics for whites doing this or that will always be higher because there are more of them”

    That’s why percentages are communicated and not aggregate figures. Duh! LOL. I don’t mean to take a jab at your intelligence, but why didn’t you know that?

    “And you trivialized my comment. No in value a life is more valuable than a dollar, However, my right to protect myself and my property and My community yeah”

    Which has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the subject matter, because this man WAS NOT defending his own property. Stay on track please…

    “its worth a life if it comes down to that. There is always a choice in a matter like that.... you can abide by the laws and rules and laws of Natural law and Not steal”

    And not kill. Both parties broke the law. You believe that it's okay for people to make emotional judgements and take their law into their own hands. I'm glad that everyone does not feel the same way as you do. Some people have a morals that they do not set aside for anything. You're not like that, which is fine. We can all have a choice on what kind of people who are.

    “We have different views ont his matter and neither of us will make the other change their outlook. We disagree THE END.”

    Yep, I'm not an emotional, prejudice person who believes that it's okay to go out of my way to murder someone who has done nothing to me. YOu should be proud.
     

    nikster86
    kattdaddy2 & mixedchick
    and all other ignorant racists KILL YOURSELF AND THE WORLD WOULD BE A BETTER PLACE...
    GOOD DAY!
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    ManLaw76
    After being a victim of 3 break-ins, I have no remorse for anybody who gets injured, shot, or killed for breaking into somebody's house. I don't care what color you are. That some cowardly, punk-azz sh*t to break into somebody's house and steal their stuff they've worked hard for. Yeah, I know insurance will replace material things, but bottom line.....If you man enough to break into someones dwelling and invade his home and family....you should be man enough to suffer the consequences. The judicial system is bullsh*t anyway. They get a small slap on the wrist, maybe a little jail time, and they back out there to break into somebody elses house. Fu*k em !!!
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    MyBoaz13
    I don't even think a family heirloom is worth someone's life. When we place material possessions over life, then we are idolizing those possessions and they become our gods.
     

    foxxy380
    Ok so let me get this straight. The white guy was in no danger. They were not burguralizing his house nor posed any threat to him. But he thought since they were ripping off his neighbor's house that it will be justified by not just wounding them in the arm or leg but KILLING THEM with a shot gun. And on top of this, he is not being arrested? WTF? Only in America.
     

    garnet
    well first of all the shooter was black...he's a professional athlete...once a new orleans saints now an atlanta falcon...mto you should have done your homework on this one...cnn broke this story
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    Always A Lady

    MyBoaz13
    The shooter was white and not a professional athlete.
     

    garnet
    black...i guess you got confused because of his speaking voice...check out cnn.com...he is a true southerner... mississippi to be exact..played for the saints... this season signed with the falcons
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    Always A Lady

    MyBoaz13
    I read the original article from the local paper where they had his picture.
     

    misskiara101
    i was actually surprised that they were actually black...with names like that they had me fooled, and i saw them on the news earlier, and they look like the thugs that walk around my neighborhood! i wouldve neva thought that they were hispanics damn...i also notice that all up here, everyone says that he should be in jail, and if it was the other way round they would have been had the black man under the jail...if u go to other sites all the white people said that he should have gotten a medal, and that he did the right thing, they are straight up praisin his murdering ass, and i told them i said, i hope blast yo ass, and see if u would like it if he got a medal then...man this world is jus filled with racism, and we all know who it is to blame, i bet that all of our rival countries are jus laughin they ass off at america...what a damn shame!!!
     

    nuttinbutdatruth
    Live by the sword, die by the sword. Word to Kattdaddy. This mindstate of lawlessness only leads to self destruction. What r ya gonna do? The world is made up of absolute morons and wastes of carbon.
     

    sig02
    HELLO PEOPLE! For all you ignorant asses out there...The robbers were not black ([EXPLETIVE]), they were of Latin origin. What black man do you know with the name of Miguel De Jesus or Gabriel Ortiz. There are plenty people of latin origin who look black. Half of the Baseball players in the MLB look black and don't speak a dam word of English. And as fckued up as this situation is....that man is going to walk away from this with probation and community service. Texas is a hick state and most people are going to take his side. Not that I agree, but what myself or anyone else thinks does not matter. He is going to walk. But if you want my opinion, material things can be replaced, lives cannot. Uncalled for. But at the same time this will be argued for years to come. Simply because if he had not shot those guys, the police probably would have made it there too late and those thieves would be robbing someone else tomorrow and/or the days to come.
     

    MLExperience
    My boaz

    I did stay on the topic I said the man has a right to defend his property, himself, and his community. The Neighbor is his community... and ppl are saying he could have shot them in the arm or leg ... thats contradicting ... either he should have shot or he shouldnt have.

    I think it could have bene handled a different way and in my original post I alsed the main ??? WHYYYYY was this operator ont he phoen debating laws and goign word for word with this man? He was supposed to take the call, get the info and dispatch ... and he said there were plain clothes officers there ... ummmm WH[SPAM]YY didnt they stop the robbers? The neighbor did their job for them ... they didnt stop them b/c they werent there.....

    And ppl saying LAW this and LAW that ... well according to the law in Texas the man was in his rights which is WHY he is not being prosecuted and your dislike of OUR LAWS and whether you think its right ... doesn't change that fact. Like i said you knwo what our law is .. sooooo dont move here thinking youre gonna make a living robbing ppl w/o getting shot at being a possibility. We Voted for these laws, we passed these laws ... WE are in control of our communities and REFUSE to let criminals, thugs, and unproductive leeches on society just take over ... sorry.

    You ppl are saying material things as if the man chose to end a life as opposed to breaking a plate .... The PRINCIPLE is at stake ...
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    MLExperience
    MyBoaz13

    You also said you took the posts line by line .. yet you missed mine and zeroed in and assumed i justified a generalization of blacks ... I said I was not worried about white statistics ... i am worried about what is going on in my community with My people ... well actually they arent my ppl ..... Black People dont rob and are productive members of society ... Nyggas are the thugs, robbers, leeches, and shiftless lazy welfare and section 8 system manipulators..... and the thing about it .... Not all Nyggas are of African American Persuasion .... Nyggas come in all colors because being a Nygga is a state of mind ..
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    stillabonafiedcutie
    I HATE WHITE PEOPLE THATS THE END OF IT!!
     

    stillabonafiedcutie
    AND WHO THE HELL IS GOIN TO KILL SOMEONE OVER PROPERTY? PROPERTY THAT AINT EVEN YOURS. I AINT HEAR THE DAMN TAPE AND I DONT WANT TO I GET MAD OVER RACIST [EXPLETIVE] LIKE THAT. I AM A [EXPLETIVE] HARD WORKING BLACK WOMAN AND WHEN I HEAR RACIST SHYT LIKE THIS, IT GETS TO ME. ALL YOU DUMB ASS BLACK PEOPLE HATING BITCHES NEED TO GET THE FUK OUT. THIS IS A BLACK PEOPLE SITE ANY DAMN WAYS SO WHY ARE YOU EVEN RESPONDIN SAYIN DUMB SHYT? I HATE WHITE PEOPLE AND IF I WOULD HAVE SEEN THEM ROB MY NEIGHBOR I DONT CARE WHO IT WAS, I WOULD JUST CALL THE POLICE. I'LL BE DAMNED IF I KILL SOMEONE OVER SOMETHING PETTY. I AINT BOUT TO LOSE NO SLEEP CUZ I KILLED SOMEBODY AND I CANT GET THAT SHYT OUT MY HEAD. IMMA JUST CALL THE POLICE DATS ALL!! NOW THATS ITS ALL SAID AND DONE WE CAN LEAVE THE COMMENTS AT THAT!! AND STUPID PEOPLE PLEASE DONT RESPOND
     

    timberduck
    Well I guess they will think twice about robbing again. Your missing the point bring race into this like normal. Eveything is about the black man and you wander way racism still exists. The issues is robbery smart one. Who gives a [EXPLETIVE] what color they are, i bet they'll think twice about robbing the next person. Off the note www.monster.com you can find jobs there and many of you can get off you moms couch and start working. She can even find a jobs there to, so I will be able to have social security when im 65 and so will you.
     

    rrseitz
    [EXPLETIVE] all you black brown or red [EXPLETIVE] who have a problem with this. i will gladley shoot any person trespassing on me or my neighbors property with out worning. if you have any problem with what happend to this guy yall can fly a red flag and kiss my american ass (which is white) because it is my american right
     

    DeTruth
    Now let's take a look at this. If the man would have got shot everyone would be commenting about how stupid he was to go outside when he wasn't in danger himself. White people would be mad because he got shot by to hispanic guys. See, He was wrong in any case. He saw they didn't have any weapons that is why he was so brave. Really he was a coward. Why didn't he go out there and beat em down like a man. ANY Punk can pull a trigger. This man was a SISSY and a PUNK. He will get away with it though(Because he is white) even though the TEXAS Law was not written for a man to protect his neighbors property. Read the comments from the man who wrote that Texas Law. You hear this man run like a punk back in the house after he shot them? Wow. Not a hero. A spineless punk.
     


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