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| BrutallyHonest |
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I have a little advice for our holier than thou African-American Pastors: GO SIT DOWN SOMEWHERE!!
Riddle me this Pastors: if abortion is a CHOICE, then how is it Genocide? Are people breaking into homes in the middle of night, abducting women and forcing them to have abortions? I didn't think so.
This may be sacreligous, but African-American Pastors are full of chit. These are the same Pastors who implore their follower to vote Republican because they're on the take, only to watch the congregation struggle at jobs or no jobs at all. These "Pastors" are sellouts, they sell that fire and brimstone about abortion and gays yet half the flock including the Pastor is a butt pirate. African-American Pastors have been selling their souls and the values of their congregations to the GOP for years and now they want to tell women what to do with their bodies.
These are men, not God. They sin, misbehave and phuck up just like the rest of us and they're the biggest hypocrites on earth. |
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| Yve |
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@BrutallyHonest...I agree 100% with you....but yes its true....they are pushing abortion and long term birth control on African Americans...
My problem with the pastors is "what took you so long" to know this????
It subject is even discussed on University cambuses...any Sociology classes for the last 4-5 years....what took them so long for the information to filter to them???
A good thinker has to be well-rounded...not one sided...
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| vness_12 |
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This is some b.s right here. PP is here for women of ALL RACES. If it seems like a largest percentage of women using PP services are african -american then guess what...GO TALK TO THOSE WOMEN! Obviously something is wrong in their community that is causing the need for PP services. No one can force a women to go on birth control or have an abortion. I guess condoms are wrong too since PP gives condoms for free and provides information on STD's and other sexual related issues. So what needs to happen is these "pastors" need to speak to their communities about keeping their CLOTHES ON and not going around having sex like it's going out of style LoL. Don't get madd at PP for providing solutions to women who want them. and further more, it's a shame that EVERYTHING has to be about race nowadays. Women in general should be the subject here...not just african-american women. |
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| Darche |
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Let's get to the root of this problem, WHY ARE OUR DAUGHTERS SO SEXUALLY ACTIVE? This article is focused on aborting the babies, when we should really be focused on preventing all these pregnancies. I'm pro choice, and I believe every child deserves a chance at life; BUT, we don't need anymore fatherless children, being raised on the system and floundering in the projects. Enough is enough!
I'm no saint myself, and I am a divorced mother raising a child without much help from her father. Howver, I work 2 jobs and don't depend on the system for anything, not even $1.00 of foodstamps per month. These young, black girls are killing our economy with their breeding.
I had a neighbor who was 65 years old, had worked her whole life, but had to pay for her own prescriptions, and was receiving $10 a month food stamps, and $350 in retirement. The girl downstairs with 4 kids by 4 men, and she's receiving $600 in stamps and just as much in TANF, sitting on her butt all day with one of the men living with her. Where is the justice?
I know this will make some of you mad, but these girls need to be spayed and nutured like animals since they're out there screwing without protection like wild animals. |
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| Offmymind |
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THIS STORY SHOULD BE AT THE TOP OF THIS PAGE*****
How in the hell is planned parenthood genocide against blacks...What about what all of the unplanned pregnancies and unwanted births are doing to our communities...What about the children being born to young under aged women who are poor and uneducated and are not emotionally or psychologically equipped to raise a child.
When I see young uneducated, unmarried women with multiple children and no husbands draining the welfare system while there children grow up in poverty with no fathers, I can't say birth control is a bad idea...And whether it be white or black women making poor choices for birth control it's the children that suffer in the long run.
When you look at crime statistics, the prison population among black males, high school drop out rates, drug use, absent black fathers, all of things are tied to poverty, socio-economic issues which leads back to home values and parenting. |
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| Yve |
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@vness_12
Offmymind
Darche...We all have valid point on this subject....But the Genocide Im refering to is not the young ladies with 5 children draining the system.....
I personally know young women who were forced with implants in thier teens.....Who have No Children..they were considered "high risk"...so the implant was forced on them...
There are bilboards in certain areas of Los Angles...where PP/City/State...Not sure who? offers (I forgot exactually) a sum of money to be permantaly sterilized....
The billboards look like a most wanted/reward add.....
Research Los Angles area sterilization program.... |
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| realwoman |
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These pastors are right to a certain extent people EDUCATE YOURSELF! Especially you men who don't know what the fvck you are talking about. It is not a very good choice when the government says either we sterilize you or you get no AID that is set aside for people like you who are regularly discriminated against. How about the BLACK women who were given INVOLUNTARY hysterectomy's without their knowledge in MASSACHUSETTS? How about the fact that fertility clinic ads always feature white women and birth control ads overwhelmingly feature Black and Hispanic? Use your brains and realize what is going on behind the scenes. This is all a subtle genocide that we are feeding into. |
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| realwoman |
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Yve TELL THE IGNORANT. Please...they had programs to implant norplant into MINORITY women and then would refuse to remove the implant when the young women felt they were ready to have children. What about the sterlility of drug abusers? Anyone heard of that? We all know (well some of you don't) that whites abuse drugs at higher rates than Blacks HOWEVER most of the women being sterilized were BLACK! |
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| Yve |
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Tell em' real.... |
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| Yve |
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This just lets us know that a lot of us are in the dark about the genocide used againts us....and thats were they want to keep it...
This is Institutional Genocide...
Using the Government/State and City..
I cant believe the Pastors are just getting it....I guess they were too busy collecting monies.... |
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| realwoman |
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Darche you are truly retarded if you think that Black women having children is what is killing our economy! WE ONLY REPRESENT A TENTH OF THE POPULATION! HELLO! How is less than a tenth of a population going to be responsible for the stupid financial problems of the country? Oh I guess young Black women were the ones who drew up NAFTA and created the housing crisis and also decided to outsource the jobs of American people to '3rd world countries' right? lmao...you people..how about instead of WELFARE you give these young women who have already proven that once given the chance they will strive (see stats for Black women attending college and obtaining careers within the last 10 years)the same jobs that you outsource to ASIANS? How about that? |
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| realwoman |
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Reproduction is a natural part of life. Women of African descent are the most fertile of all races of women. Why do you think the govt has approved so many types of BC? It's because the failure rate of so many of them are higher in our people. Look at how many of us still easily get pregnant with one ovary removed or while on the IUD etc. The way the world is run right now is not how it was meant to be. Africans themself have ways of aborting children BUT do they force it on ONE race more than others or perform surgeries to ONE race more than the other? NO. It is not right that Black and Hispanic women are targeted more than anyone else. There are tons of trailer parks filled with dirty children sucking off the teats of welfare and they represent a higher percentage of welfare recipientst than we EVER have. TARGET THEM if you are really concerned about welfares impact on the 'economy'. |
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| Offmymind |
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I do not agree with a woman being FORCED into being sterilized, that absolutely is not right...Sterilizing someone against their will is not right and probably should be illegal but I'm not aginst traditional birth control methods or even abortion, if thats the woman's choice.
We should be focussing on more prevention methods and sex education classe for these women and young MEN as well. |
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| Offmymind |
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I do not agree with a woman being FORCED into being sterilized, that absolutely is not right...Sterilizing someone against their will is not right and probably should be illegal but I'm not aginst traditional birth control methods or even abortion, if thats the woman's choice.
We should be focussing on more prevention methods and sex education classe for these women and young MEN as well. |
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| mygudness |
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That's not true. A white girl from UCLA did and experiment where she had white guys call planned parnethood to donate money so that black babies can be aborted. Since Planned parenthood didn't turn away the donations there deemed racist.
Now I'm sure there are people out there that would like for that to happen (the lady that founded Planned Parenthood in the early 1900's beleived this as well), but I don't beleive they are kidnapping black girls and forcing them to abort there babies.
If these pastors are haveing such a problem with african american women aborting there babies then they need to work on intervention and community service programs. Maybe start by trying to bring the black family back together. |
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Oh please. Certain pastors get on their reactive bandwagons yet are the very same ones who want no sex education taught in the schools.
Give me a fricking break! These young girls are either modeling after their own mothers or they don't have the education to know the consequences.
Some of these drug addicts and women who breed like rabbits need a 5 year cycle of birth control until they can get their lives together or get their tubes tied permanently.
There are over 500,000 children in foster care. Over half are black children so what do the pastors have to say to that?
They need to be proactive and start some preventive programs in their churches or communities instead of always claiming someone is using genocide. I heard that same argument a few years ago when welfare reform started.
Many black churches don't preach about the responsibilities of the fathers. Years ago these same men where telling women to stay in abusive marriages. They need to start mentoring programs for male & female youth and adults too. Some people have bred children but have a clue how to be a parent.
So many of these pastors are too busy cheating on their own spouses to espouse the virtues of a nuclear, married family.
I visited a local black church and was so impressed that the pastor has incorporated a program where men and boys learn from each other and are shown whay they need to do in this world. We need more programs like that. |
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Alot of us (black folks) are trying to make this seem like it is a "sexual education" problem, when in fact this is the biggest set up i've ever seen.
Research "Eugenics", and see how many corporations and billionaires donate money to the implementation of their ideas. This is not just an "American" thing. The numbers of Black people across the globe are decreasing systematically by design.
Those in favor of Eugenics want us to believe it is about sexual activity amongst teens and STDs when in fact drugs to make black women PERMANENTLY sterile are being "strongly recommended" to women in africa who are NOT teenagers.
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| Yve |
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@mygudness:
We are not talking about the UCLA ridiculousness...and the feeling of those donationers were real...
who said anything about kidnapping??
Where did that come from??
This is not your creative writing class...its simple comprehension.....
I SAID!!...THEY ARE BEING FORCED INTO STERLIZATION....sent to the doctor and the procedure forced on them...if they are deemed "at risk": and the definition of "at risk" is something someone else did;
Thier parent/parents is deemed unfit...
Parent/parents are drug abusers...
Child is place as a "ward of the state"...so on so on!! |
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I'm totally for birth control & abortion in all races & nationalities. There are TOO MANY out of wedlock bastard kids & I don't like it at all. It's becoming the rule(norm)instead of the exception.And family values are going down the toilet. Broken homes ARE ruining amerikkka. And NO DRUG ADDICT SHOULD BE A PARENT!!!! FUK all those that will disagree with me. My opinion stands & yall can't shake me nor break me.
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| Offmymind |
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Good point FOCUS!
I agree with KASEY30, No drug addicted person should be allowed to have children...Most crack babies end up in foster care with long term medical, psychological and emotional problems as a result of the the crack in their system...I don't agree with someone being sterilized forever, but there should be a way to prevent drug addicts from making babies to suffer. |
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@realwoman,
I meant community, not economy.
@kasey30, luv your comment. |
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Can "WE" say Willie Lych!!! These problems go way to slavery!!!
Willie Lynch came to the USA to teach slave masters how to control their slaves because the situations were getting out of hand. Seperate, divided, mix the races so one group would think they were better than the next, lack of education, clothing, food and shelter will keep them dependant upon YOU the slave master!
We have been kept dumbed down by design. It is up to us as a people to rectify the ills of OUR community if we want to survive! |
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people people people.....
It is not
"NOT"
Excluding
Non-inclusive
.....the parent that are on drugs, they dont deserve to be parents
We are discussing the youth--- thier children.... thier off spring....as young as 12....Not the mom, not the dad.....not the uncle or auntie....
The minor children.....before they become sexually acitve....
Opertavie wording here being: "NOT".....not the parent, but the child....
and not all childred born to addicts are mentally inept...that too is a misnomer
@Offmymind...your theory is so off base...we are so easily bamboozled...where did you study science/chemistry to come up with that hypothesis??
Or are you regurgitating what you've been spoon feed... |
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fed...not feed...
pasionate sometimes.... |
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All the comments are on point but nobody has given a solution. We all know what the problem is, but how are we going to fix it? Black ppl cannot depend on the government to fix their social issues, we have to do the dirty work ourselves. If half of you who commented even took 2 hrs a week to be a Big Brother or a Big sister to one of these disadvantaged youth it could make a whole world of difference.
My mom works in the youth ministry at her Church and all the kids are in school with good grades, some have graduated college and working, many have built their homes and are doing quite well. It is up to us to do the work to save our children. Just being a mentor, a friend, a confidante can make a whole world of difference in the path that a teen takes and it does not take as much time as you believe. |
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@Offmymind...your theory is so off base...we are so easily bamboozled...where did you study science/chemistry to come up with that hypothesis??
Or are you regurgitating what you've been spoon feed...
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@YVE
Regardless to what you think about my theory CRACK ADDICTS SHOULDN'T HAVE CHILDREN! Whether crack babies are born with problems or not most of these children still end up going into the system..And I'm not regurgitating anything sweetheart thats a known FACT...Most crack babies DO HAVE LONG TERM MENTAL PROBLEMS some worse that others, and they're harder to get adopted when they end up in foster care, black kids are already harder to get adopted anyway...I don't know where you're getting your facts from...You're the one who sounds bamboozled. |
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I am so tired of carrying race around with me every where I go. We know we live in a racist society and because of that blacks should just act as responsibly as possible but still be ourselves and keep it moving. It's like you know you may get hit by a car if you cross traffice..THEREFORE proceed with caution but keep going until you get to the other side. The war should be on the drug dealers and murders in our community...if more people PLANNED THEIR PARENTHOOD then we would have less of these issues. |
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@Offmymind
Regardless to what you think about my theory CRACK ADDICTS SHOULDN'T HAVE CHILDREN! Whether crack babies are born with problems or not most of these children still end up going into the system..And I'm not regurgitating anything sweetheart thats a known FACT...Most crack babies DO HAVE LONG TERM MENTAL PROBLEMS some worse that others, and they're harder to get adopted when they end up in foster care, black kids are already harder to get adopted anyway
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Oh yeah...my bad I forgot every child that is born to meth or crack addicted parents end up in the system of foster care and adoption agencies...The Government is a liar...I agree with you on that one...the stats they have of Grand parents and others sucessfully raising these children is all a dream and a urban ledgen.....Im going to e-mail all the young students I know who were born to addict mothers and tell them to "get off campus"-hand in thier scholarships awards and get on the other side of the legal system where they deserve to be.....because you said they are most likely to be there (in the system).....
Im doing that right now...
should I only e-mail the pre-med students---because that could be dangerous!
or should I include the pre-law students as well???
I'll get right on it! |
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@ YVE
You're right about one thing I'll quote you on
Ignorance seems to be blissful....
But personally I don't give a fuk what you think!
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Oh yeah...my bad I forgot every child that is born to meth or crack addicted parents end up in the system of foster care and adoption agencies...The Government is a liar...I agree with you on that one...the stats they have of Grand parents and others sucessfully raising these children is all a dream and a urban ledgen.....Im going to e-mail all the young students I know who were born to addict mothers and tell them to "get off campus"-hand in thier scholarships awards and get on the other side of the legal system where they deserve to be.....because you said they are most likely to be there (in the system).....
Im doing that right now...
should I only e-mail the pre-med students---because that could be dangerous!
or should I include the pre-law students as well???
I'll get right on it!
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Ignorance seems to be blissful....
YOU SAID IT BEST!!!!! |
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Oh....wow....You should become a spokesperson for or against....(which ever looks best to you)
for the African American community...Amerikka is looking for your kind.... |
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Offmymind post
But personally I don't give a fuk what you think!
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Yeah we know....and they know....its no secret....((re-read post headline and insert here)).... |
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You're damned if you do, you're damned if you don't. So many people want to jump down pastor's throats for trying to stand up against this injustice, yet what are You doing to eliminate this on going problem in our community? That's the problem with us Black folks. We're quick to state " Where were they? What took so long?" Do your part. What have you done to help and give back to the impoverished Black community?! |
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SORRY BUT THIS IS TRUE. 80% of all ABORTION CLINICS are in our neighbor hoods not the other races( seriously do the research ) you'll find that african american women are 4 times more likely to be advised to have an abortion than their white counter-parts and 3times more than likely to have that abortion.
YEP IT'S TRUE PEOPLE (GOOGLE IT) |
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PASTOR NEED TO WHIP IT OUT AND SHOW THEM HOW TO WRAP THAT BIG THING UP.
BABIES ARE MORE IMPORTANT THAN A CAR.
IN ORDER TO GET A CAR YOU HAVE MEET CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS.
DRIVERS LICENSE
MONTHLY CAR NOTE
GAS
INSURANCE
IN ORDER TO HAVE A BABY YOU GET A GOOD JUICEY NUT
AND IN 9 MONTHS YOU HAVE BABY THAT YOU CAN NOT AFFORD.
IF THE BABY DADDY IS IN PRISON DON'T HAVE A BABY
IF YOU CAN NOT AFFORD DAY CARE DON'T HAVE A BABY. |
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Yeah, you'll hear some pastors talk about prosperity before you hear them talk about the importance of the nuclear family, stable parenting, responsibility or anything pertaining to a family. |
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I happen to think that not only do abortion clinics target minority women and Black women in particular (they are all over the "urban" areas/hoods and cost next to nothing. If abortions cost $1000+ that would make it harder for low income women and teens to get them!), but I would go so far as to say that the government is targeting the Black community with biological warfare. www.boydgraves.com. I knew the STD infection rate anmong Black women was out of control when my good friend who is a VIRGIN got burned twice by chlamydia. The second time she didn't even understand how she got it. She had used protection during oral sex. |
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Planned Parenthood is not just patronized by African American women and abortion is a choice. And obviously our population has not 'decreased' in any way. The article states that births increased 5% in 2006. And whatever pastors said that malarchy about P.P promoting genocide needs to get a dictionary or a thesaurus. I think maybe they said that so that African American women can look at it differently and say 'Oh this is a trick of the enemy, I will not appease the white man by killing my unborn black child'! Like a form of brainwashing because those pastors know that certain people do not believe in the Bible or God and quoting a text from the Bible won't work so they used another tactic. I don't mean to sound meanspirited or crass but I wish more African American would either get on birth control or miscarry or terminate pregnancies. I have a friend when she was pregnant with her 3rd child by man #3 she had the nerve to say "Oh, I really don't want to be a single parent again". I damn near threw my phone out the window. Then she went on to say that this man said he wanted more children and she said she told him I'm not having anymore children unless they get married. What the hell type of backwards crap is that? Meanwhile I'm 33 and have no children and when I get asked by my African American sisters why not; I tell them because I'm not married. They are ready to damn near start campaigning and attacking my position! I came from a single parent household and I refuse to repeat the pattern and I don't just let any random n***a bust nuts up in either. It's annoying when a certain group of people think that you have not 'arrived' or that your life is incomplete because you don't have 1 or 2 niglets hanging on your hips screaming at the top of their lungs. The more sad thing regarding this topic is the fact that people are still so irresponsible that they allow themselves to get pregnant when they know beforehand they do not wish to have a child. |
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Like Michael Jackson said:
"IF U CAN'T FEED THE BABY (yeah yeah), THEN DON'T HAVE THE BABY (yeah yeah) IF U CAN'T FEED THE BABY (yeah yeah) THEN DON'T HAVE THE BABYYYYY"!! |
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THANK YOU TRULEE,
I totally agree with you, where in the hell is the genocide when you have all of these young women with multiple children that they can't afford to take care of...I got a young cousin who's not even 25 and pregnant with #4...If these young women would be responsible for their birth control in the first damn place we wouldn't have to deal with these issues.
I'm just curious as to what is the Pastor's solution to dealing with these crack addicts and young girls having kids that they cant support...I'm not saying sterilize a woman permanently and take away her god given right to have children forever, but I don't see anything wrong with giving a women the option to have an abortion or making it affordable and easy. |
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Amen. That is scary regarding your cousin. wow. At age 33 I can't imagine 4 children and single?!? whoo! You wanna hear something crazy? One of my best friends told me today that she got in contact with a friend she had not heard from in a few months and her friend told her that her older cousin (age 42) passed away, and when my friend asked her from what she told her that he had penis cancer. So my friend said do you mean prostate cancer? The friend got annoyed and said no penis cancer so my friend told her that she just asked because she never heard of that before. I said I haven't either but I went on to say that cancer is just an accumulation of abnormal cells that start to eat at the body so if you really think about it it would be feasible to get cancer of the penis. She went on to say that he also had to have his penis cut off as well. I say all of this to say that I told my friend that maybe if that was more prevalent maybe these bastards would think twice about running in any and everything. Especially if penis cancer was associated with having sex with multiple partners and busting nuts up in anybody. Just a thought. But then again we still got some shiftless negroes that don't think it's possible for them to run up in the wrong chick and get AIDS so I don't know. |
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Dang stupid me I thought reporduction was a choice and having an abortion was a choice. |
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Those rightwing bastards want control your behavior in the bedroom, but preach less government government; what a contradiction. Rightwingers want you to have baby's, but [EXPLETIVE] 'em once their born. No healthcare, no college or training money(it's gettig harder to come by). Don't pay attention to these bastards. Like most ministers(of all religions)they want you to be uninformed, afraid, and depending on them. That include Revs. Wright, Sharpton, Jackson, Jakes, Long, etc., |
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BrutallyHonest I agree with you.
These pastors need to analyze information before they embark on rhetoric. It's a womens choice if she keeps her baby or not, what does race have to do with it. But I do have to agree with the fact that there are alot of Planned Parenthood in lower income minority neighborhoods. First you have to realize that the PP in our neigborhoods don't just provide abortions, contraceptive, and condoms, they also service a GYN /OB needs to those who can't afford suitable care.
It's up to the parents and school system to educate the children on SEX. I say the school system needs to get involved more in sex education becasue the majority of children learn about sex at school amongst their peers.
I didn't start having sex until I was 17 however my JR. High and High school educated us on sex and the reprecussions.
I remember when I was in 7th grade one of my classmates had a baby. Now my little brother age 13 is in Jr. High 8th grade and one of his classmate is 13yrs old and pregnant with her 2nd child.
These kids are hot in the ass, they're grown they think they know everything, and you can't tell them nothing. These kids are also freakier than us aldults. I overhear them on the bus or train talking about head, orgies, etc. I'm 26yrs old and I never been involve in such high risk sexual activities, I didn't start giving head to my man until I was 23 That was 3 yrs into our relation ship.
Sorry to get off topic but point blank these kids are hot in the ASS. PP is a neccesity as far as GENOCIDE goes I believe there may be an underlying plot to decrease the black population. It's obvious that A black life has no worth (i.e Sean Bell, Diallo, Luwema, etc).
This is why Malcom X and Marcus Garvey were so adiment in us having our own govt. The laws aren't meant to justify us.
That's why I don't go out my way to seek affirmation from the Khaki folk(white), because they don't like our appreciate our contributions.
No matter what you will always be a N!gger, your life is worthless.
That why AIDS and other STD's are so rampant in our race. That's another way to get rid of the undesireables, meaning blacks, hispanics, ans gays.
What Khaki's are most afraid of is black people standing up to ther b*lls!it as did great leaders in the past MLK, Malcom X, and Garvey.
The higher the populus of blacks the more power we can gain, and that's what their afraid of.
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