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1st Bitches...Finally. Wow WTF are they talking about. He is the greatest rapper.
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BLENDER MAGAZINE need to KILL THEMSELVES |
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Blender is crazy...and if Wayne said he was never into Pac, that's BS. I'd give Jay Z the most overrated title. |
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| blackexec |
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Are they even relevent? Pac was the sh!t.
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[EXPLETIVE] Blender Magazint TUPAC is the best |
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I think Blender is an overrated magizine that takes itself too seriously. No one cares about it. |
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I BEG TO DIFFER THAT STATEMENT,I TOTALLY AGREE WITH ONLY LUV THAT'S UP ABOVE!! |
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I have been saying that for years. Tupac was a 80% personality and image and 20% rhyme spitter. |
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Leave my man alone...let him rest in peace! |
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wow... They're probably not a publication that respects hip hop anyways... |
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BIGGIE was better than Pac
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:sigh: what the hell is blender? |
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| NiKe_SkEeZeR15 |
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isn't that a predominately white magazine???
i know for sure I have never read it or thought about
reading it but its basically a publicity stunt. How could someone even fathom the thought that tupac wasn't worthy enough to be one of the most influential black men of our time? Tupac will always be the greatest no doubt about it. |
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Tupac is not the most over rated, he was the realest n did give a f*** about what he felt needed to be said. Always got luv 4 pac. n blender magazine f*** you! |
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i meant "did not give a f***" above! sorry i was messing up my typing but blender mag just pisse-d me off. |
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| moneyovabullshiiit |
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WTF GOES BLENDER REALLY KNOW ABOUT RAP NOT A DAMN THING. YOUR MAGAZINE IS OVER-RATED. |
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| LILBLACKBOY |
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I wasn't into Pac much when he was alive except for Straight Ballin cuz i was Ballin thrn but Rakim and Big are my faves I'm a NY kinnd on Nicca----Niccas the truth hurts yall |
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That's why I [EXPLETIVE] ya wife u fat muthafucka lol
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Well, i think so too. Everyone made such a hype about this dude cuz of his tragic and untimely death, which was unfortunate but Tupac was a gimmick. First he came out as some regular rappper doing stuff like "I get around" w/ Digital Underground, doing things like "Brenda's Got a Baby", u got old school pics of pac dressed in some sweater vests looking all preppy, then he flips the script trying to be hard core thug when he hooked up w/ Suge Night & co.
And he was NEVER on the level of Rakim, or KRS 1, and he wasnt as nice as Biggie IMO. He was good, but he wasnt best. Not even in my top 5 |
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Big sick as hell but not better then Pac. Big could not change his flow like pac could nor could big make people feel what he was saying the way pac did. Pac was so intelligent that college have classes on his lyrics because they consider him a philosypher. All the shyt [EXPLETIVE] rappin bout now adayz pac did that back then. Pac is who got theses bammas actin hard and tat'n up they body. Funny how people that dont have the talent or skillz judge those who do. |
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All I cn say is this...
Best Rapper Alive and the Best Rapper who Died |
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Sorry to say it, but he is VERY overrated. Not the most overrated artist, but he's up there. Lyrically he was good, but at least Che Guevara and Marley had truly political motives and actions. Pac was good, but he wasn't the musical messiah people make him out to be. |
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I'M NOT A PAC FAN...BIGGIE ALLLLL DAY!!!! |
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I agree with blender on this one. How pac gonna say f*ck the east when he's from NY. May he rest in peace, but he was overated. when he was on the east is when he made his best songs. then he went to the west and just tried to be a thug and a gangsta, and made songs with no content |
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Ain't that some sh!t? F^ck that magazine. What about Elvis Presley? That [EXPLETIVE] is EXTREMELY overrated!
And Lil Wayne is a lying ass n!gga! He is trying to do what Pac did putting out all that music! How you believe what a fake ass Blood says? |
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Matter of opinion and fukc anyones opinion who feels anything negative towards PAC! |
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What is the craziest sh*t Ive ever heard. Tupac was The best. He was more than gansta rap Tupac wrote poetry AND IF YOU EVER READ IT YOU WOULD KNOW IT WAS SOME OF THE REALEST SH*T EVER WROTE. Some of you cloWNs talking about how he used to dress prep DUMMY he also went to art school. Black people stop holding back other black people calling them sellouts bc they think that what is good enough for whites is good enough for them. Stop conforming to the white mans mentality, that is what he wants to see you hate on and murder your own race. WAKE UP MY BLACK BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE AND START GETTING ON THE GRIND FOR A BETTER LIFE. F**K THESE STREETS. WE CAN BE JUST AS GOOD AS IF NOT BETTER THAN THESE WHITE FOLKS. WHY DO WE HAVE TO BE SELLOUTS BC WE WANT BETTER FOR OURSELVES AND OUR CHILDREN.
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pac4 lyfe...eveybody else kill yo self. pac didn't do it for publicity he made it for da thugz...not t.v. or none of dat other bull5hyt...but for da nigguhz out ridin'....Hail Mary, run quick 5ee, what do we have here now, do you want to ride or die ?..lalalalalala if you ckouldn't relate you ckouldn't relate, but real nigguhz relate to pac(k)'5 ckontent... for da 5outh and we5t ckoa5t it'5 gonna be pac(k), ea5t ckoast its gonna be biggie, 5o get it how you live |
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I can't front, Pac was the coldest to touch the mic in my opinion. You have cats that can spiit fire on the streets, but you can't connect with them on a deep level.
Pac in my opinion have tight lyrics, a deep story teller, and it was more on some getting you to feel that ish your heart. To me that was his gift. Biggie ran N.Y. Pac ran the United States. |
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Blender Magazine? And they are run by who? Exactly! Without going to Google for the information who would even know anything about Blender or their staff members.
Pac was one of the greatest. Don't sleep on dude. |
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No, I'd have 2 say Lil' Wayne is the MOST overrated artist out 2day, but I gotta agree with TheBrokenSilence about Elvis. As 4 Pac, he was'nt no gangster, yet the media always puts him in that category. |
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i loved 2pac shakur he was the truth and thats what the media was afraid of maybe if he was a sellout like some of these dj's and so call rappers now he would b so called the best in the media eye . yall just hatein because he was the best rapper when he was alive he was a rapper everybody could relate to in the 90's now u have rappers into too many woman,gold, too materialistic now every rapper is phony wanna b's now |
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pac was a good rapper, and a motivator. but to say he was the greatest rapper??? his lyrics was not that deep....long live the king BIGGIE!!!! |
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The magazine is like George Washingtons face, ON THE MONEY! Big killed that kid on the M.I.C and pac was a hater (listen to ANY interview about biggie-keepin it real). Go back and listen to MOST of Pacs music, he slapped those rymes together in 10 minutes. His rymes consist of. [EXPLETIVE] like me/goin to the penitentiary/say/day/hey/real/steel/chrome/dome etc. COME ON! Whereas REAL lyrical assassins like Big and Rakim surprise you with their punch lines. "The ryme that I'm stylin/is smooth as a violin/but rough enough to break New York from Long Island -Rakim. Now thats clever rymin and metaphors to boot. And for those who say Biggie cant switch up his flow, I suggest you listen to his joint with Bone Thugz where he PUNISHES them using their style, peep all the creative ryhmin in that song.Lots of sin/ lots of gin/oxygen/all them women I got to like one/all them [EXPLETIVE] I got to fight one. He goes OFF in that song. I'll give Pac this, he makes PERFECT song, no mistakes, he rides the track like no other but as a lyricist? Not close to the heavyweights. Big/Rakim blew up OUT THE GATE. Pacs 1st joint "2pacallypsenow" didnt do great. BUT, once Pac started getting aressted and "allegedly" takin booty, he blew up. If you recall, interscope wouldnt post the million dollar appeal bond for him, why? CAUSE HE WASNT MAKING MUCH MONEY FOR THE LABEL. Suge Knight had to post it. It might be hard to swallow but Pac was average at best as an MC. Keeping it Real |
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Sorry I love Pac, but I can kinda see their point. He sold more records dead than he EVER did alive, so you have to wonder are people worshipping him because he was such a lyrical genious or was it because all the drama surrounding his death. |
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The magazine is like George Washingtons face, ON THE MONEY! Big killed that kid on the M.I.C and pac was a hater (listen to ANY interview about biggie-keepin it real). Go back and listen to MOST of Pacs music, he slapped those rymes together in 10 minutes. His rymes consist of. [EXPLETIVE] like me/goin to the penitentiary/say/day/hey/real/steel/chrome/dome etc. COME ON! Whereas REAL lyrical assassins like Big and Rakim surprise you with their punch lines. "The ryme that I'm stylin/is smooth as a violin/but rough enough to break New York from Long Island -Rakim. Now thats clever rymin and metaphors to boot. And for those who say Biggie cant switch up his flow, I suggest you listen to his joint with Bone Thugz where he PUNISHES them using their style, peep all the creative ryhmin in that song.Lots of sin/ lots of gin/oxygen/all them women I got to like one/all them [EXPLETIVE] I got to fight one. He goes OFF in that song. I'll give Pac this, he makes PERFECT song, no mistakes, he rides the track like no other but as a lyricist? Not close to the heavyweights. Big/Rakim blew up OUT THE GATE. Pacs 1st joint "2pacallypsenow" didnt do great. BUT, once Pac started getting aressted and "allegedly" takin booty, he blew up. If you recall, interscope wouldnt post the million dollar appeal bond for him, why? CAUSE HE WASNT MAKING MUCH MONEY FOR THE LABEL. Suge Knight had to post it. It might be hard to swallow but Pac was average at best as an MC. Keeping it Real |
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My thing with Biggie is he was to gangsta. He never showed he was anything more than a dude that rapped about killing cats, and benzes etc.. I like some of his songs, but he was looked upon as the dude to bring the east coast back, he was just part of Puffy's marketing genuius! |
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Lil wayne is NOT overated, That kid was garbage back in the day BUT he stepped his game up now hes one of the roughest rappers out there, he got heat (got that from my nephew lol) |
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Agreed. Good points. Alot of the younger kats dont know the full effect/appeal of a man like Rakim.. One of my favorites. He's a lil too old school for some. Big Daddy Kane used to spit too. But kats like taht have gotten lost to the younger generation. |
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If that's the case, why can't Biggie sell big time records after he died? |
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@staypoppin you OBVIOUSLY DIDNT listen to No biggie if you think DIDDY was the result of his success. I say SUGE was the result of Pacs success. Pac sure wadnt talking that "F the East Coast" crap till he got on Death Row and was protected by Suge. Pac was NO thug, Pac was no gangster, Pac just ran his mouth and wrote 10 songs a day. I'm not saying he wasnt talented, I'm saying he was no lyricist, he was average. That white cat eminem is a better rapper than Pac. Keepin it real |
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WTF! Best selling rap artist of all-time, been dead for 11 years and the [EXPLETIVE] still dropping songs! Biggie was the [EXPLETIVE] that is overrated! |
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Actually Biggie is the reason for Puffy's success. Big was his cash cow, Big was the one who MADE Bad Boy what it was. Notice how Bad Boy has never been the same since Big's death. The other artists Puffy had had all pretty much fallen off. U know Mase wasnt shyt-lol |
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@Staypoppin,
Because biggies rymes and music appeal to the intellect and you kids today aint tryin to think your tryin to hear abusive language. A songs hook could go like this "Yous a B*tch Mutha Fin b*tch mutha fin B*tch" say that hook 3 times in a row. THAT WOULD SELL TO THESE KIDS. No substance, no lyrical content just some aggressive language that appeals to yall. Pac understood that. He wrote for women and dummied down his spit for ignorant people and they ate it up. Listen to how he rapped on "2pacallaypse" and "Strictly4myn*ggaz", Then listen to his stuff on death row and tell me he didnt dummy down his content. And Last I heard Biggie NOT Pac is got a movie coming out.
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Man, i can't believe I'm getting deeper into this with all the ish I have to do!
Me against the world sold 4 million before he even signed with Death Row! He was only on Death Row for nine months of his life!
Answer the question, why can't Biggie sell records today if he's so hot?! |
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Jay-z and Nas are better than Biggie, and I don't even like those niccas. |
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Look at Jada!
Anywho..what do THEY know?
They knew better-even printing such blasphemy.
They just did that for shock value to garner attention for their magazine.
Actually, in my opinion, the most overrated rapper is not dead... |
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Behind every great person there's a pack of haters! Tupac is the best, if he wasn't they wouldn't have wrote the article! Fall back haters! Muah! |
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Pac was aight...But he wasn't all that...And yes he is over-rated.
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i dont even know anyone that reads blender...maybe they did that for the attention..
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@Staypoppin,
If me against the world sold 4 mill. It was because as I said, BECAUSE OF ALL OF PACS CONTROVERSY. He was a rapist at that time, he had gotten shot at that time so he was in the media eye. Why didnt his two previous joints sell as well? I'll tell you why, BECAUSE HE BLEW UP DUE TO CONTROVERSY. Thanks for substantiating that. |
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That's because it's 8 million people in NY! I know he made Puffy rich, but with 8 million people in one state, he should!! |
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@Hurtmebad--> Pac already had a movie/documentary a few years back! Did moderately well for a documentary as well. How many albums has Biggie sold, how many albums has Pac sold? That would show you how much appeal the artist has. Next, Biggie flowed better than Pac, no doubt about it, but as it relates to lyrical content, Pac fukks Big up everyday of the week. One had better flow, the other had better content! Pac was a beast. The nicca even got a class at a university! Does Biggie have that? Like I said before, Jay-z and Nas are better than Biggie and I don't even like those niccas! |
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@Staypoppin,
There is MORE than 8 million in NY now, so if your rational is correct then why aint Bigs artist as LARGE as big Today? KNOW WHY? Not near as good. |
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Hurt me Bad
Ok, let's say that's what helped him. Why is he still hot? Hype can only last for so long before people see the truth. 12 yrs. later and he selling like hot cakes. THAT"S QUALITY!
Answer my qustion, why can't Biggie match him? He's a legend and all, why can't he sell records?
I'll be back later! |
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As for the Grammys, the music industry's top awards, Blender said sitting through the ceremony was "like watching paint dry on Celine Dion's forehead."
And encores were notable chiefly for allowing bands to go backstage and do drugs while fans wonder if they should beat the rush to the parking lot, Blender said.
Veteran British rock band Pink Floyd, meanwhile, were responsible for "unbearable LSD slapstick" and "self-important bombast." And Blender warned that teenagers' brains "can inflate a great band to Christ-size proportions" and turn a bad song into the most meaningful.
^^^LOLOLOL ALL TRUE!!! AND I AGREE WITH LIL WAYNE. I LIST PAC IN THE TOP 5 AS WELL... BUT I WAS NEVER REALLY INTO HIM LIKE THAT. |
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look tupac is the best sellin rapper of all time, so how is that not a reason for someone 2 "overrate" him...he sold 75 million(maybe more)! his records sales dont lie! but then again tupac was sayin fukk the east coast but he was livin in maryland and ny, b4 he even moved 2 cali! so it is what it is |
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Yeah but Craig Mack didnt get those 8 million people on his side-lol. Thats why he got dropped cuz he coudlnt pull his weight, people werent really feeling his flow. 8 million people arent gonna make u rich if they aint feeling your shyt now. Biggie got that cuz people was going crazy for his shyt. "My rap lines is like land mines" lolol...And hearing him freestyle live cemented his skill to people. And NY audiences are tough audiences to win over. If you cant come correct on a corner in Bed Stuy or anywhere in NYC trust and believe you will be exposed. (Back then anyway) |
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@Louisvilleslugger,
a documentary is NOT a movie sir, Big also has a documentary-several of them. Since when do album sales equal the BEST? Eminem,Young Mc,Mc Hammer, Sirmixalot,Vanilla Ice and 50cent have sold ALOT of music are they great Mcs? I guess they have alot of appeal? Yao Ming gets more votes than Lebron,Kobe and Mello but I guess hes a better baller too according to your rational. Its called politics. Big NEVER had to use controversy to sell his music, he was a BEAST out the box UNLIKE PAC. |
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Ofcourse Blender would say that. His mom was a Black Panther and he rapped for the impoverished not the rich. I love PAC so MOTHAF*UCK BLENDER MAGAZINE.
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WEEZY was never into PAC but listed him as his top 5 and stay sayin him name in music? Does that make sense? He is an idiot and Im tired of hearing his voice on the radio every other song. His squeaky voice is very ANNOYING! Hip Hop is in a very disappointing state right now. Kanye cut it out with the T-PAIN voice thingy, you sound ridiculous. Thank god for Jay. |
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Hurt me Bad
Ok, let's say that's what helped him. Why is he still hot? Hype can only last for so long before people see the truth. 12 yrs. later and he selling like hot cakes. THAT"S QUALITY!
Answer my qustion, why can't Biggie match him? He's a legend and all, why can't he sell records?
I'll be back later!
BIGGIE WENT DIAMOND! PAC NEVER WILL :-D GET OVER IT.. |
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wtf i disagee wit them 1000% Pac was the realist EVER!!!!! go on youtube and listen to"holla if ya hear me",blasphemy,shead so many tears,bury me a G,BIGGIE NEVER EVEEEEER!! WAS BETTER THAN TUPAC,MY BOI PAC HAD BAD BOY SHOOK REAL SH^T,AND PAC SOLD WAY MORE THAN BIGGLE GO LISTEN TO THOSE SONGS I JUST WROTE AND THEN TELL ME WHOS BETTER |
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@Louisvilleslugger,
a documentary is NOT a movie sir, Big also has a documentary-several of them. Since when do album sales equal the BEST? Eminem,Young Mc,Mc Hammer, Sirmixalot,Vanilla Ice and 50cent have sold ALOT of music are they great Mcs? I guess they have alot of appeal? Yao Ming gets more votes than Lebron,Kobe and Mello but I guess hes a better baller too according to your rational. Its called politics. Big NEVER had to use controversy to sell his music, he was a BEAST out the box UNLIKE PAC.
^^^YAZZIRRR!!! TELL IT!!! |
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And I have heard the RUMOR that they teach a class on Pac in college for years. I have YET to see ANYONE Substantiate this. Know why? Cause its not true. They may use some of his content for a discussion or even a thesis but a class? Whats it called, Pac 101? 105? COME ON
Listen to Pacs weak freestyle vs Big. NO COMP!
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Tupac was is and will always be the greatest rapper, if not artist ever. Most versatile, Realest n!gga ever to stand in front of a Mic. He was light years ahead of his time and competition. HE even discussed buying a baseball team in '96. His ultimate goal was to buy into the heart of America(baseball is America's past time)make great movies (Baby boy was written for Tupac) and create a Black revolution and create that ultimate unity, all put on hold because of his un-timely death. Biggy was simply a great rapper, Pac was the total package. Even Nas, in his prime couldn't stand toe to toe with Makeveli the Done, My favorite artist period. Don't debate with me, you will LOSE... JAy-Z, tho he's my saggitarrian brother is probably the most over-rated, rappin' about money all day is not music. Pac was music..... |
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wtf i disagee wit them 1000% Pac was the realist EVER!!!!! go on youtube and listen to"holla if ya hear me",blasphemy,shead so many tears,bury me a G,BIGGIE NEVER EVEEEEER!! WAS BETTER THAN TUPAC,MY BOI PAC HAD BAD BOY SHOOK REAL SH^T,AND PAC SOLD WAY MORE THAN BIGGLE GO LISTEN TO THOSE SONGS I JUST WROTE AND THEN TELL ME WHOS BETTER
^^^ UHHH... THAT WOULD BE MR. CHRISTOPHER WALLACE AKA FRANK WHITE AKA BIGGIE AKA NOTORIOUS B.I.G. THAT'S WHY PAC WAS SOOOO ANGRY. HE WAS THE MAD RAPPER LOL "I GOT MO JOIN BLAZE $H1T DAN HIM! SO SO HE GOT BOATS & B1TCHES IN FISH TANKS IN HIS VIDEOS AND I GOT ROBBED FOR ALL MY DOUGH BY SUGE... WIT MY GANGSTA AZZ..
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Biggie had better flow than Pac, but Pac rapped about more relevant stuff. Stuff everyone can relate to. |
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And FYI selling the most records doesnt make you a better rapper or better artist period. Rappers back in the day didnt have the same commercial exposure that they do know so there were alot of gems that didnt sell and get the credit they should have money-wise.. Eric B 4 President was one of the hottest joints I ever heard in my life.. Do you think it sold millions? Hell no!
Selling more records than someone else deosnt make yo better. No disrespect to Rihanna but Im sure she's probably sold more records than Deborah Cox and Rihanna cant touch Deborah Cox's skills. Rakim would sloughter Pac on the mic. But his record sales pale in comparison. Sales do not equal better skills/talent. |
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I'd say that the reason Pac sold as many albums as he did afer his death is due to the fact that he had tracks for albums. He obviously laid down A LOT of songs to put all those albums out. That doesn't mena they're were all that though. And people bought them b/c it's Pac. Best ebelive if Big had that many tracks for albums after his death, they'd sell like *that*. I do agree that Pac is overrated. don't get me wrong, it's not like I didn't have a few joints that would make me say "oh shyt!!" LoL but I don't think he should be worshipped the way he is. |
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"since when has albums sales equal the best?" since alwayz! where have u been?! how can u call urself the best or the greatest rapper or lyricist if ppl dont buy yo shyt?! thats jus like someone sayin the fubu is the best clothin line knowin damn well dont nobody buy or wear that shyt! think bout it! if u wack aint nobody gonna buy yo shyt! the only reason why these rappers are the best cuz ppl buy and listen 2 the music! come on now |
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These guys are obviously biased but you and I see eye to eye, Eric B was ILL.That track was in EVERY Mix at that time, people lost there mind when that came on. How many brothas got locked up listening to Pacs ignorant flow. |
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Alright I got a few minutes before I get out of here.
Hurt me bad
Yeah I saw that freestyle before, everyone has a bad day, I just saw KRS ONE and Sodier boy on Rap City and Soldier Boy gout out on KRS ONE freestyling, but do you see me calling him better than KRS ONE??? |
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So MC Hammer is better than Pac cause PLEASE HAMMER DONT HURT EM sold more thatn ANYTHING Pac put out. Some peoples mouth be in overdrive while there brain is in neutral |
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Depends on what a person likes to hear. To me, he is a bit overrated. His style was basic. His flow was choppy, although he could expand on different topics. Biggie is good, a little better than Pac(flow wise) and equal to Jay, but I don't think he the best either. Biggie's style is too one-dimensional, as far as topics go. Nas'll blow all three of these dudes out the water.
My all-time favorite/best ever is Rakim. Can switch flow speeds, rhyme about any topic, educated punchlines and the one who ushered this style of ryhming into existence. I also give Ra a leg up on these dudes because he dropped those lyrics when he was 16. |
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That's what I'm talking about, it's more than just connectng rhymes. It's about people actually feeling like you're sitting there talking to them.
Pac had Rolls-Royces, but didn't point that out in every song! |
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BLASPHEMY!!!!! WHAT THE FCUK DO THEM [EXPLETIVE] AT BLENDER KNOW ANYWAY??? |
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Soldier Boy is in his prime and Krsone is NOT. Plus I dont believe it, provide proof please, mere assertions is not proof.
Difference is Big and Pac WERE BOTH in there prime and BIG could ALWAYS eat Pac alive and Pac knew it thats why he was hatin on Big. Lets look at this video. I GUESS THIS WAS ANOTHER BAD DAY HUNH? Pac need to see Ice Cube and learn how to have a GOOD DAY lol
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Well their right. I HAVE SAID THIS LONG AGO!
How u gonna come from Digital Underground(A BUBBLEGUM GIMMICK AZZ GROUP)as a BACK-UP DANCER
Then all of a sudden----->UR A THUG!
BULLSHYT!
2pac was FAKE AS THEY COME and he have yall [EXPLETIVE] ALL OVER HIS DIC thinking he was this REAL AZZ THUG! LMAO
2pac DIDN'T become a THUG until he signed to Death Row(I GUESS HE HAD TO UPHOLD THAT IMAGE OF A THUG FOR THE RECORD COMPANY) LOL
So Blender...I FEEL YOU 100% on this!
I guess he didn't feel so gangsta after getting that BOOTIEHOLE RAPED IN PRISON! LMAO |
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You feel me? The people dictate how hot you are. Biggie's last album went platinum, that means NY people don't suport the cat anymore!
Pac selling 2 million an albums dead. |
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KRS ONE words were "He snuck out on me" it was just last week, just ask somebody!!! |
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I agree Pac was NO THUG, he was SOFT and lets talk about how they was sexin him up in the joint on the east coast, thats why he sold he soul for a jelly role to Suge to get out, he had it rough in there. Pac was 5'8 165 WHAT WAS HE GONE DO? All he was gone do was SPREAD EM and he did.- Keepin it real |
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Umm yeah there is alot of old school rap taht didnt sell platinum, yet its better than a lot of shyt that sells today or that got commercial exposure back in the day. Back in the day I believe MC Hammer even won awards for his record sales and popularity. Does that make him better than Rakim, Nas, Krs-1, or Big Daddy Kane? Hell to tha naw!!! Soulja Boy probably sold more than thos kats as well. Dont mean he is better. |
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I don't know what's is more fcuk up Blender calling Pac overrated or all of these silly as niccas saying BIGGIE was better than PAC-
GTFOH and stick to rock-roll suckers- |
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I need proof. I'm not into conjecture or hearsay. I'm into proof. Did Pac have another bad day in that video? Check out Pac back there like a SUCKA, doin the Humpty dance lol
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if mc hammer sold more then anything that 2pac has put out, then yea he is considered the better artist! records sales DONT LIE! if yo shyt is wack aint nobody gonna buy it trust and believe! why that is hard for u 2 believe?! its the damn truth! like staypoppin01 said PEOPLE DICTATE HOW HOT U ARE!
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Dude I've seen all of the frestyles on youtube. Put a Biggie song up and I'm going to start demolishing you one by one!
I'll put the first song up So Many Tears
This one song wipes out Biggie's career! |
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BIGGIE FOREVER!!!!!
I respect Pac to a certain degree, but the mag is trippin!
Now Lil Wayne is OVER-RATED!!! He gets on my nerves! |
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BIGGIE FOREVER!!!!!
I respect Pac to a certain degree, but the mag is trippin!
Now Lil Wayne is OVER-RATED!!! He gets on my nerves! |
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So many tears? Please quote a hot bar from that song Lol
Peep how Big flips Bone Thugs style and KILLS IT1
Also, notice the rymes. PUT ANY PAC SONG UP AGAINST THIS RYME WISE LOL
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@BACKSHOTZ...GET UR [EXPLETIVE] STRAIGHT BEFORE YOU MAKE A COMMENT. THE WHOLE THUG LIFE MOVEMENT STARTED WAAAAAY BEFORE DEATH ROW! BIGGIE WAS NOTHIN BUT A 2 BIT HUSTLER B4 HE GOT THAT ADVANCE FROM BAD BOY THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN HE'S FRANK WHITE THE DRUG KINGPIN. BIGGIE WAS A BETTER LYRICIST/STORYTELLER THAN PAC...BUT PAC IS STILL THE GREATEST RAPPER OF ALL TIMES. YOU CANT EVEN COMPARE THEIR ALBUM SALES. BIGGIE HAD A WHOLE 2 ALBUMS IN 3 YEARS. HIS CAREER WAS TOO SHORT-LIVED FOR HIM TO BE THE GREATEST OF ALL TIME. MAYBE HE WAS THE GREATEST RAPPER TO ONLY HAVE 2 ALBUMS...I'LL GIVE U THAT. PAC WAS A REAL [EXPLETIVE] THAT TALKED ABOUT REAL [EXPLETIVE], NOT MONEY HOES AND CLOTHES ALL A [EXPLETIVE] KNOWS. PAC WAS MORE EDUCATED, AND HE WAS THE SON OF A PANTHER, WHICH IS WHY HIS LYRICS HAD MORE VALUE THAN BIGGIE'S...IF YOU ACTUALLY KNOW HIS LYRICS THEN I DOUBT YOU CAN INTELLECTUALLY DISAGREE WITH ME... |
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To BE REAL WITH YALL, I LISTEN TO ALOT OF MUSIC, BUT I CANT NAME 15 SONGS BY B.I.G. BUT I CAN ASURE YOU, I CAN NAME ABOUT 50 CLASSIC SONGS FROM 2PAC!!!
GREATEST OF ALL TIME!!
AN LIL WAYNE?..... [EXPLETIVE] MAKE SOME MUSIC WITH SUBSTANCE, NOT ABOUT HOW MUCH SIZZURP U DIGEST!!
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Pac better than Biggie or vice-versa is debatable, but what isnt is that Rakim IMO holds the title of probably the best rapper of ALL time. I suggest if you dont know about that, go listen to "Know The Ledge" and Eric B for President" "Dont Sweat The Technique" and then tell me that shyt Rakim was flowing wasnt sick! |
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@hurtmebad--> All 75 million plus albums Pac has sold is due to controversy? GTFOH! A lot of mufukkas be in some shyt, but all those niccas ain't selling! So what makes Pac different? The nicca appealed to way more people than Biggie because of his lyrics, point blank. Except for a few diehard (usually from NY) fans, most mufukkas agree that Biggie was nice, but Pac was better! It's just that simple! Even NAS himself, said Pac was the best, and to me, he--himself is better than BIG.
While you bullshyting, those niccas you named DO have appeal! They ain't bumping in my IPOD, but they are in someones! So they do have value for some mufukkas out here, but none of them including Biggie has sold as many albums as Pac. Look at how many albums E-40 has dropped, I consider most of them garbage, but some poor nicca out there bumping his shyt! If we aren't going to use album sales then what metric can we use? The nicca been dead this long and he still selling because of controversy? Nicca please!
BTW, Pac's documentary was in the theaters, not some made-for-TV shyt like BIGs probably will be. The nicca is the most talked about, emulated, and hated on rap artist of all-time he must have done something right! |
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So what NO Rapper has put out or sold more than L.L so is he the best? NOPE. All I'm saying is that lyrically Pac cant see Big and he CANT. ALL MCS say that. Does Pac have a better voice, better beats better songs? YEP -keepin it real. But how is Pac real? Who has he ever killed? Robbed? Beat up? I seen him stomp out a cat in the casino with Suge but come on now. NOBODY has yet to present any PROOF about this so called Pac class lol (rumor) Real cats can handle doin time, how come Pac was squirmin? How come he DID ANYTHING TO GET OUT (In Pacs words) YALL KNOW WHY, he was gettin sexed up. If thats what you guys call REAL I dont wanna be real. |
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@Louisvilleslugger got a crush on Pac, quit riddin Pacs d*ck. You sound like a clown. Michael Jackson sold more than James Brown but whos better? JAMES. Pac sold WAY more than Rakim but whos better? RAKIM. E-40 is a better Mc than Pac too, hes more versatile got more game and got way more hustle, EVERY baller in the game bumps some 40 water. Question, If Pac was alive and dropped his boxers would you sucK???
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@hurtmebad--> L.L.'s old ass hasn't even sold more than Pac! But he's sold more than Biggie! Lyrically 2pac pisses on Big, flow-wise Big pisses on Pac! I and many other motherfukkas care more about content than flow! Sorry! And as far as a class it ain't no rumor, ma nicca! It's real, VH1 has the link!
http://www.vh1.com/artists/news/1171/09101997/2pac.jhtml
And as far as jail time, do you honestly think they would put a celebrity in general population? Cmon, nicca! Talk about rumors that is some bullshyt made up by Wendy Williams! Nicca you need to step your fact game up! We dealing wit facts here, ma nicca. |
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To BE REAL WITH YALL, I LISTEN TO ALOT OF MUSIC, BUT I CANT NAME 15 SONGS BY B.I.G. BUT I CAN ASURE YOU, I CAN NAME ABOUT 50 CLASSIC SONGS FROM 2PAC!!!
GREATEST OF ALL TIME!!
AN LIL WAYNE?..... [EXPLETIVE] MAKE SOME MUSIC WITH SUBSTANCE, NOT ABOUT HOW MUCH SIZZURP U DRINK!!
PAC>>>>>>> LIL WAYNE...smh
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For all you young heads screamin Nas/Pac etc. Peep Rakims ill flow in the last year banger with Kanye. the DOPEST LYRIC on the track came from Rakim. Nas cant see him OR BIG
"Age dont count in the booth/as long as ya flow stay submerged in the fountain of youth"
NOW THATS FIYA!
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Album sales never equate to rhyme skills! If that is the case than Vanilla Ice was the best when he came out with "Ice Ice Baby" See how stupid that sounds??
Staypoppin: The 8 million in NY you are referring to was an outdated estimate of the population of NYC...not NY State
BK LAtina: I have seen you post before and you
are very knowledgeable in Hip Hop...I will see you next lifetime.
I didn't want to turn this into a West- East thing so I kept B.I.G. out of the convo. For the record, Pac was from Baltimore, MD
contradictions:
Wrote Dear Momma then arrested for rape
Born in the East and represented the West
Which way was this dude going?
The hype, controversy, bad blood talk and his eventual death made him bigger than he was and it translated to record sales
Dudes who were or are better than Big or Pac:
Kool G Rap
KRS ONE
Nas
Rakim
Buckshot
Big Daddy Kane
Common (especially in the Common Sense days)
Big Pun
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Dudes who know one knows that won't go platinum but can or did spit just as good:
Phonte (Little Brother)
Elzhi (formerly of Slum Village)
Murs
Planet Asia
Redman (before the weed)
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Many celebrities are in population , ask Rick James
In regards to the course, it was a limited class like I said ABOVE. Does the course exist today??? No sir. That CLASS was offered 11 years ago and you talking bout facts? Whered you guys get this cat from? |
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I meant NYC.
Hurt me bad
I love Biggie's flow on the Bone cut! Classic!
I never said he was wack, I like his bone Thugs cut better than Pac's.
So many tears was mentioned because he actually was talking about something, when has Big ever rapped about something meaningful! |
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So what NO Rapper has put out or sold more than L.L so is he the best? NOPE. All I'm saying is that lyrically Pac cant see Big and he CANT. ALL MCS say that. Does Pac have a better voice, better beats better songs? YEP -keepin it real. But how is Pac real? Who has he ever killed? Robbed? Beat up? I seen him stomp out a cat in the casino with Suge but come on now. NOBODY has yet to present any PROOF about this so called Pac class lol (rumor) Real cats can handle doin time, how come Pac was squirmin? How come he DID ANYTHING TO GET OUT (In Pacs words) YALL KNOW WHY, he was gettin sexed up. If thats what you guys call REAL I dont wanna be real.
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Hurtmebad--> You pole hopping now [EXPLETIVE] from Big to Rakim! [EXPLETIVE] use is a lame as mufukka. The class existed nicca! Has biggie EVER had a class with his name on that shyt? Hell to the fukk NO!
Here is yet another UNIVERISTY!
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/pop/150912_tupac04.html
I'm done w/ you nicca my dikk is sore you can hop off! |
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Lil Wayne lying talking about he wasn't into Pac.
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u talkin bout ice ice baby, BUT thats the song NOT THE ALBUM! dont separate the song from the damn album! albums may not equate 2 rhyme skills, but that not the point! if ppl aint buyin yo shyt THEN U ARE WACK! WHY ARENT YALL GETTIN THIS! RAPPERS GET THEIR CAREERS POPPIN BY PPL BUYIN THEIR SHYT! SIMPLE AS THAT! HOW CAN U CALL URSELF THAT BEST IF PPL DONT BUY YO SHYT?! |
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Big was ill but never on Pac's level. Pac was a leader and he was going to start a new goverment type [EXPLETIVE], I believe part of that is why he got killed too. He was 8 levels abopve everyone especially big. How you gonna compare big's rhymes....laugh now, cry later, I rhyme greated then the average playahater to pac's rhymes:
Murder murder my mind state, [EXPLETIVE] ain't changed
since my last rhyme - the crime rate ain't decline
[EXPLETIVE] bustin shots like they lost they mind
Like twenty-five to life never crossed they mind
Tell me young [EXPLETIVE] never learned a thang
Dead at thirteen cause he yearned to bang
Sniffed a lot of flowers, but how could I cry
Tried to warn the little [EXPLETIVE] either stop or die
Mercy is for the weak when I speak I scream
Afraid to sleep; I'm havin crazy dreams
Vivid pictures of my enemies, family times
God to forgive me cause it's wrong but I plan to die
Need to take me in heaven and understand I was a sheep
Did the best I could, raised in insanity
Or send me to hell cause I ain't beggin for my life
Ain't nuttin worse than this cursed-ass hopeless life;
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TUPAC CANT BE COMPARED TO NOBODY ELSE THE MAN MADE REAL MUSIC THAT REAL [EXPLETIVE] COULD FEEL FOR ALL THE LAME ASS PEOPLE HE MADE BLACK MUSIC AND IT WAS FOR THE THUGS AND THE REAL BLACK MEN AND WOMEN OF THE STRUGGLES RIP PAC BEST RAPPER THAT DID IT HANDS DOWN[SPAM][SPAM]!!!!!
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Pac died BROKE, he didnt have his rights to his masters, he was a musical novice in regards to the business. He couldnt act (peep the fight scene with Joe Torre is Poetic Justice- CANT FIGHT A LICK). Why you gettin brittle Louisville slugger? Hit a nerve? For the record I said RAKIM is the best not biggie. Can you read? |
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Hurt me bad
Let's take it to the beginning on 2pacaypse Now
Young Black Male is scortching all of Biggie's ish! Don't even get me strated on "Violient and Soldja Story, and Pac as only about 19 or 20! |
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That was the 90's, most rappers didn't get their masters like they do today, it was a different era. He was going to do 3 albums for Suge then get his own label, but he died! |
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STRESSONSMASH AND HURTEMBAD
We're obviously from a different generation and have the luck of having first hand knowledge of the greats that pioneered Hip Hop.
That said, the old school at noon is rockin on power 105.1 and Im lovin it!!! lolol |
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i agree wit blender...pac was a nobody untill digtial underground..where he was a dancer....didnt get 2 rap till late afta dancin and he was thru carryin around there equipment...so all that ra ra gangsta talk is foul...but people take sum lyrics (which were great) and wanna say he was the realist 2 ever bless the mic...he didnt get charges till afta death row...he wasnt actin a fool till afta death row...now i dont kno what he was doin b4 hand and netha do none of us that listen 2 his music or watch mtv bet etc etc...but if we strcitly going on what we c n hear...he wasnt a thug no tats and glocc and dope till afta death row...u cant be a super thug dancing around doin tha humpty switch labels and all of a sudden u a killa ...if u get pushed.....lol..lol..now compare him 2 wayne..folks hate on wayne ...and i can pull a mill a milli of his fans that kno every damn lyric and would consider his earliest of work hot boys...to 500 dgree( which was garbage) to go dj (wit fresh) and all of tha carters as classic.,..so what makes pac more real or betta rapper than pac...wayne came out young and had flags on and tatted up and talkin bout murkin folks neva a dancer...but ol heads will say he garbage...and young heads that dont kno pac say wayne tha best.....now on 2 biggie....he put out sum classic $hit...he wasnt as pro blacc as pac but he spit what was real 2 him...and he came out gangsta..remeber early vids where he had golds...checc tha vid wit him puff and super cat...he never was a bacc up dancer...so my question is what is real vs studio ...what makes a rapper great.....tha answer is ya fuccin opinion....i will say eli from iron mic challange is tha best...ha ha ha |
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Tupac was the best story teller. Biggie had the best flow. Thats it. No rappers out today are better. Not 1. Not Jay-Z not Snoop none of them. Jay-z and Snoop need to take it back to the reasonable doubt and Gin N Juice days cause they on some other $hit now adays that aint worth 15 cash. |
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I forgot to mention Pac was 5'11 165
I met the cat once! |
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Damn this topic is gettin a lil heated heavy but anybody tryna play Pac and act like Big was any different is outta they mind. Big was a gimmick his damn self I doubt he did half the s**t he rapped about in his songs...So Big wasn't no thug neither and most likely his Big ol behind was Puffy's B***h spreadin for Puffy's "Take That Take That" a**...So he's no different. Now back to the main subject...Big was fire he spit straight off the dome and his flow was hard BUT he didn't have no substance to his lyrics and he didn't have the "Passion" for the arts like Pac did Pac loved his craft all his writings that he left behind was deep he might of acted ignorant in front of the camera but by no means was he...He was a deep hearted creative brother like if you's read some of the s**t Pac wrote you'll possibly cry cause it'll hit so close to home. Big on the other had was talkin bout kickin in doors wavin 4.4's...and...daddies lookin so good he'll suck they d**k...UUUUUHHHHH!?!?! WTF is that?! Anyways...Big was hot in a different way then Pac but Pac's mind was amazing the contents that filled his mind was on a whole nother level and wrote about LIFE. So I say Pac got him on creativity, versatility and spirituality in his lyrics AND he got lyrics for days mofo still comin out wit s**t. Can we get some more Pac s**t posted up cause them Pac lyrics posted was DEEEEP! PAC NAS & RAKIM are the Philosophers of Hip Hop spittin THE TRUTH...the rest are jus followers! Go Figure..... |
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Louisvillesslugger got a 10 d*ck a day habit! Cum drunk bastard tryin to talk crazy to me. Boy you must done lost yo mind, damn Jizm Junkie. You talk a lot of mess for somebody who just got out the joint. They found his finger prints on another mans d*ck, he got arressted for Possession of SWOLLEN PROPERTY. Betta leave me alone boy I aint him. lol
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Dang, is it that serious?
I AGREE WITH STRESSONMASH...
Pac was from B-More and represented the West.
All the sales came from CONTROVERSY (50 cent)
Lyrically, TO ME, PAC could not flow the way BIGGIE did! PAC was fake to me. I do believe that he had some skills, but i could not get with him. Whenever I heard all 57,000 songs he did, I just couldn't visualize what he was saying. To me he was just another DISRESPECTFUL rapper. But this is just my OPINION!!! For real there is no great debate cuz there were PLENTY of other rappers before the both of them came out.
THANK YOU BROOKLYN LATINA!!!!!
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One word that explain the greatness of TUPAC is his versatility, his writing skills the metaphors,similes. Pac could give you positive song and then he would give you a club song, follow up with a thug song and then show up at the spoken word and say several poems . There's a Pac song for every situation. Every time TUPAC in mention east coast folks want to bring up WEST COAST sounding BIGGIE. His sound was not a tradition east coast sound nor was his tracks. Biggie was a great rapper also but Pac was far more intelligent and his lyrics had more depth. I know people today that think "ME AND GIRL" song is a song about Pac and his female girlfriend but it a song about his gun being his girlfriend. Not too mention how he murder Biggie and that little group he had I can't remember the name of the group in the song Hit'em up. Rakim is great but Biggie and Rakim are rappers that rap in one style and one style only. My opinion to be greatest you must have VERSATILITY your lyrics must have substances speak about other thing beside drug dealing and weed smoking. If any of you need more clarification on the lyrics of PAC you can take a college course to look more in depth at his lyrical skills content. People questions Pac being a thug. Stupid A$$ these rappers are in character you know like Scar Face, Superman , Batman these are all people that portray an image. If people think these Rapper rap about their true life your a FOOL. The things that are said in these raps these rapper would have already received the electric chair.
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Louisville,
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Hurtembad,
Only people from New York or from up North think that Biggie was the GOAT.
When in reality his material can't hold a candle to Pac's.
Pac messed up by hanging around the wrong crowd. It woulda been better if he'd never met Suge but he was the one to get him out of jail.
And it doesn't make you a man to get locked up. It makes you ignorant or it's sad if you didn't commit the crime.
What grown man really wants to do time? That's not street cred, that's foolishness.
I do NOT want a man who's done time. Sorry, but that's not at the top of my list of qualities I want in a man.
Pac wasn't a gimic, so he didn't have to sell music off of getting shot 5 times.
He sold records because he music was good.
He was a poet, and nobody had the lyrical content that he had. Nobody.
That's why so many rappers tried to bite his style.
Whether they wanted to look like him or redo his songs. He was the best.
Even biggie copied from Pac in doing music for ladies.
Pac was also a social activist. He was the leader of the Junior Black Panther Party.
That's why he was able to rap about things of importance.
Only ignorant people think that you're a great rapper if you've done time. That's crazy. Now, you shouldn't make mess up, but that doesn't make you a great rapper or a man for that matter.
Pac is the only rapper that has books of poetry and classes at Harvard and other Ivy league institutions about his life and music.
And lil Wayne might not have been into Pac 'cause he was really young.
I'm only a year older than him but I was enthralled with Pac's music at a young age.
I always said Nas was the best thing after Pac, and I love Common. But Nobody is better than Pac. |
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Oh yeah, Biggie did lack substance in his lyrics and he also was disrespectful. But I just liked his sound.
I just didn't like pac. But I do know he was far more intelligent than most. He was a very good story teller, but he wasn't a good rapper.
Actually, him and big were on 2 different levels.
But I did used to listen to the underground music that Big had w/Pac before both of them hit main stream.
No matter what era you are from, you know MUSIC when you hear it. So to say Lil Wayne is the greatest rapper is BULLSHYT!! T.I. is better than some Wayne slurred speech, lollipop lickin, azz!
But back to BIG and PAC, guess they were great at what they did. BIGs Career Was CUT SHORT!!! |
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YALL ARE STRAIGHT BUGGIN IF YALL THINK BIGGIE WAS BETTER THAN PAC. PAC STOOD FOR CHANGE. CHANGE OF SELF & COMMUNITY. BIGGIE ONLY PUT OUT 2 ALBUMS, & THE CONTENT ON BOTH WAS MONEY CLOTHES & HO'S. PAC TOUCHED ON EVERYTHING....EVERYTHING |
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All Imma say is "SHUT YO MOUTH" speaking on THE GREATEST---PAC!! All these back and forth arguments, comparisons of record sales and statistics is STRAIGHT RIDICOLOUS and Yah Know it! If you felt PAC---then he WAS THE GREATEST to YOU. POINT BLANK PERIOD. You can't GENERALIZE your OPINIONS as some GENERAL CONSENSUS. All yah---tryna be FAKE A$$ HIP HOP Journalist----NEED to SHUT that NONSENSE UP!
F*%K What yah SCREAMIN!
TUPAC 4LYFE!!!
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Overrated!!!! WTF? Tupac is one of the greatest rappers of all time. I was just listening to Papa'z Song this morning. He says a lot of sh!t in his rhymes. And whoever said Buckshot Shorty is a better rapper than Pac is sick in da head. |
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U know! I hate when the geat debate of "best rapper" comes along and people act like Rap started in the '90's lol!!!
Shyeeeeetttt. I said it once and I'll say it again, no one has impressed me as much as Rakim has. He is one of the best F of all time. And the rest of the old school generation like Gangstarr, Main Source (Live at the BBQ) Mobb Deep, Kool Moe D, Big Daddy Kane, Nasty Nas, KRS 1, etc and lets not forget my girl MC Lyte who IMO was the best FEMALE rapper of all time, she could hang w/ the big boys! |
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Everyone has their PROs and CONs on this subject on both individuals.
Both of the are Great! However I wouldn't let my kids listen to either of them. (When i do have kids). |
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@ thereal,
Homie you know [EXPLETIVE]!!! Big was nothing until pac let him rap at his shows. I'm not saying big wasn't nasty but pacs lyrics were deep, something you know [EXPLETIVE] about!!! |
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Pac wasn't always right, or respectful but he talked about things other rappers wouldn't touch. He spoke about social events, children, and the future or nation.
I found that he was a lost soul searching for answers. He has many songs in which he's asking God questions. He was as real as they came. |
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dude you are the sofest squarest nicca on this site....
2pac was better than Big... Period!!!
sales come from controversy?
okay...
" instead of having a war on poverty they got a war on drugs so the police could bother me"
im with the rest of the world pac was the G.O.A.T...
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They are right....And that is not to trash Tupac....He was an above average rapper with a TON of charisma...
On the basis of sheer lyrical ability he is nowhere near the talent of cats like KRS, Rakim, Big, Nas, Jay.....Hell hes not even on the level of the next level of cats...Raekwon, Black Thought, Kweli, Resurrection era Common....
Tupac has an ability to charm and connect with people in his music....He is to hip-hop what Mary J is to R&B...Mary doesn't have a great voice...She is not even in the top 100 when it comes to singing ability....But her music connects with and moves people and she has that Charisma....So without discounting the love people have for Pac, as a rapper, he was overrated. |
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@Lyle,
If I'm soft thats cause I just got through skeetin in ya moms (gotta talk to people on their level) and aint nothin square about me CEPT my Birth Certificate! Pac was a basic rapper, I said that and he was. Big had lyrics, but I'll say it again, Rakim is the best.
@Latina,
You forgot MELLY MEL! Oh and I have to disaree, I think the best female rapper hands down was SHANTE. She dissed McLyte, Latifah, Yo Yo, all the top Mcs and she went head up with Boogie Down Productions (Krs-One you need to go on vacation/ with that name sounding like a wack radio station, and she also dissed UTFO. She battled men, she had heart. But Mclyle had that female Rakim flow, she was nice. |
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They put down so many black artists we just have to not pay attention to them and uplift are own. They're just mad that WE THE BEST!! |
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Your Mary J/Tupac comparison was on point. I LOVVEE Mary. She is my favorite R&B artist, but she sure as heck isnt a better technical singer than Whitney. Mariah, Xtina, and Celine Dion-lol. But she got soul which endears me to her.
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If it wadnt for Pac puttin Big on, Big wouldnt have made it, ok I can agree with that, Pac did help Big get on ( I keep it real) but you HAVE to admit if it wadnt for Digital Underground Pac wouldnt have got on either. At least Biggie wadnt a stage hand/background dancer like Pac was. Big was a Dboy from Day 1. Big was a free styler, Pac had to write his material down, what takes more talent? FREESTYLING. But again, Rakim is the ILLEST. Weezy kills Pac too |
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Ohh your right about Shaunte-lol, forgot about her. I just had this admiration for Lyte from my young days that I forgot about Shaunte..True true-loll |
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[EXPLETIVE] HURTEMBAD, [EXPLETIVE] ALL U PAC HATERS, AND YEAH [EXPLETIVE] I SAID IT. |
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I see no changes, all I see is racist faces
Misplaced hate makes disgrace to races
We under I wonder what it take to make this
one better place, let's erase the wait state
Take the evil out the people they'll be acting right
Cause both black and white are smokin crack tonight
And only time we deal is when we kill each other
It takes skill to be real, time to heal each other
And though it seems heaven-sent
We ain't ready, to have a black President, huh
It ain't a secret don't conceal the fact
The penitentiary's packed, and it's filled with blacks
I wake up in the morning and I ask myself
Is life worth living should I blast myself
I'm tired of being poor and even worse I'm black
My stomach hurts so I'm lookin for a purse to snatch
Cops give a damn about a ne-gro
Pull a trigger kill a [EXPLETIVE] he's a hero
Mo' n***a mo' n***a mo' n***az
I'd rather be dead than a po' n***a
Let the Lord judge the criminals
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Ice Cube was harder than Pac back in the day too. Who got West Coast Rappers respect in regards to lyrics? IT WAS CUBE. And all Pac did was refurbish Cubes songs and put his spin on em. Dont sleep on Big Pun either, he had flow too, and Eminem had flow too, that white cat was ILL. |
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@Been Embarrassed,
Whats NEW about Changes? The same basic flow that made Pac popular. This is a good assessment of lyrical Talent, not bad at all. #1 is Rakim as he is in MOST POLLS
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75 million album sold, 50 million sold in the US. They are token employees of Blender Magazine paid to contradict the greatness of TUPAC. Anyone that says Tupac was under rated I can't respect their opinion or their hip hop knownledge. Some of the Rappers they're claiming are better would not say their lyrics are better than TUPAC. |
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Yo are very lame (waste of oxygen). I bet you shine shoes for a living. You must have downsymdrum or something. |
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neway to that person who said pac was 20% rhyme spitta u crazy i hear a pac line in almost every rap dats out he was very good lyrically most of his beats was wack but the words make u like the song and he was hella versitile not limited to only rap about the streets anything he made was good rather gangsta a song for da females a song for his mama somethin political theres noone else that has done or can do that so aint no way anyone can say he wasnt the greatest big was good but he was limited he couldnt rap about anything pac can make anything go |
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I dont shine shoes, my rep is so bangin you'd call it gang related ole truant, tardy just hoppin in the game *ss nucca |
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HURTEMBAD,
I TAKE IT YOU BE ONLINE THUGGING HUH? IS YOUR CREW CALLED WEBSITE MOBSTERS? |
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@HurtMeBad
That was a verse from "I Wonder If Heaven Got A Ghetto" not "Changes"...and ya list was pretty good but I'm confused on who gets #1 outta Nas Pac & Rakim cause they all great to me BUT I'd have to say Rakim is my least favorite jus cause I wasn't listenin to him when he was out...but I was on to Nas & Pac. |
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[Tupac]
Staring at the world through my rearview
Just looking back at the world, from another level yaknowhatImean?
Starin...
Multiple gunshots fill the block, the fun stops
[EXPLETIVE] is callin cops, people shot, nobody stop
I wonder when the world stopped caring last night
Two kids shot while the whole block staring
I will never understand this society, first they try
to murder me, then they lie to me, product of a dying breed
All my homies trying weed, now the little baby's
crazed raised off Hennesey, tell me will my enemies
flee when they see me, believe me
Even Thugs gotta learn to take it easy, listen
Through the intermissions search your heart for a plan
and we turnin Bad Boys to grown men, it's on again
I give a holla to my [EXPLETIVE] in the darkest corners
Roll a perfect blunt, and let me spark it for ya
One love from a thug [EXPLETIVE] rollin with a posse
full of paranoid drug dealers, to the end my friend
I'm seein nuttin but my dreams comin true
While I'm starin at the world through my rearview (see)
[repeat 2X]
(They got me) starin at the world through my rearview
Go on baby scream to God, he can't hear you
I can feel your heart beatin fast cause it's time to die (we)
Gettin high, watchin time fly, and all my [EXPLETIVE] |
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@Boston,
Yeah The Mob is puttin in work, we got our own website called BUSSAHEAD.COM dont be the next one to get his head put on flat.
No West Coast Rapper put it down on the Social tip like Ice Cube did. Pac stole his glory by refurbishing his concepts. Check out the Cube library, he was killin Pac. As I said East Coast Rappers didnt give West coast rappers no love till Cube came and put the West on the map. No rapper covered Rodney King, Oj, Emmitt Teal, Tawana, Darryl Gates etc Like Cube.
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OVERRATED MY ASS KNOW PAC SET THE BAR WAS THE BEST AND ALWAYS WILL BE THE BEST
HOW MANY RAPPERS WERE GETTING MAINSTREAM ROLES IN MOVIES? HOW MANY NICCAS WAS GETTING TATOOS ARCOSS THEIR CHEST BEFORE HIM? HOW MANY PAC CLONES POP UP AFTER HIS DEATH. HOW MANY NICCAS WAS HOLLERING THUG LIFE? PAC IMPACT ON RAP AND LIFE WILL NEVER BE APPROACHED BY ANYONE |
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Only salty ass, hating ass nyggas from NY think BIGGIE was better than PAC. Funny how them nyggas have to say something about that nygga errytime a motherfukka say sh!t about pac. Some of yall [EXPLETIVE] been on this b!tch all damn day. Get a job [EXPLETIVE]. |
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Man, why can't Tupac be left alone... I mean seriously, people need to have some respect even if they didn't like 'pac. In my opinion, Tupac...was the best. All hands down. I never really was a fan of Biggie Smalls but I respect the dude, not only cause we're both from the same place but because he stood for a cause. Tupac wasn't no "gangsta". He may have made Hip-Hop/Rap music but that doesn't label him as a gangsta... I just believe Tupac tried to make the world a better place by sending us all his messages through his songs. Plus, he was also an activist in a way... Does that label him as a "gangsta" rapper? And Lil Wayne....Shut up dude... just shut up, don't say anything. |
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It matters not to me what Blender or anyone else thinks of 'Pac....he was THE MAN. I would never have been into rap or hip hop without having first took the time to stop and really listen to the lyrics. Also, when rap first started, there was no music really to the lyrics. Tupac to me, was the first one, who incorporated music and artists who could sing and bring home the message he rapped about. As a singer - I listen to lyrics and music and voices - and the combination of 'Pac's rap lyrics, the chorus line, the music and the complete production of his masterpieces, is what finally attracted me, pulled me in to the hip hop culture. I'm 55 and I love this music!! Blender Magazine is published by Dennis Publishing. The magazine began in 1994 as the first digital CD-ROM magazine by Jason Pearson, David Cherry & Regina Joseph, acquired by Felix Dennis/Dennis Publishing, UK it published 15 digital CD issues, and launched on the web in 1997. What can you EXPECT from a publisher that wasn't even around until '94!!??? In addition, these folks hail from the UK (England). There is no real appreciation of Hip Hop in their writers. They certainly don't understand or know the relevance of our music and culture as well as the reason we need our own awards shows, etc. They can KICK ROCKS! |
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How can ya' say BIg was better he barely could speak!?! |
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Ice cube set the Bar he was in Boyz in the Hood BEFORE Pac was EVER in a flick AND Cube is a better actor. Tatoos were started by EUROPEANS not Pac, you sound like a groupie (Pac got a tat so I'm gettin one lol) Pac is a Ice Cube clone, people hate the truth |
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Pac was NOT the first to incorporate singing into his music or fuse R&B with Rap. I remember back in the late 80's Jody Whatley and Rakim collaborated on a song called "Friends"
THis was waayy before Puffy too before he had Father MC collabo with both Mary and Jodeci, before Pac, etc. |
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@ BrooklynLatina...I feel you...Rakim needs to have his props...No one has meant more to hip-hop.
Rakim and Nas are like evolution.....Rakim the originator, the greatest of his time, with Nas the one who came after, inspired by him and took the game to the next level...Kind of like Dr. J and Michael Jordan...People need to give Rakim his props because he single handedly raised the level of lyrisicm in hip hop...Listen to early 80's stuff before him (slower flows and deliveries) and the stuff that came after...Nas, Raekwon, Jay soooo many others point to The R as the man who inspired their flows.
Nas and Common took the game to the next level...As far as pure lyricism goes, Illmatic and Resurrection are two of the greatest exhibitions of pure lyrical skill ever recorded.
I will never forget when I first heard Nas on Live at the BBQ....I ran to the stereo and rewinded the tape back 3 times because the verse was so dope.... |
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First off [EXPLETIVE] Blender... 2pac was the best to EVER did it. What b/c lil wayne didnt listen bc he was too busy listening to Birdman wack ass [EXPLETIVE] that hes overrated now?? [EXPLETIVE] that!!! 2pac was on the verge of having his career blow up... All eyes on me was the [EXPLETIVE] and 7 day theory is my favorite album of all time made while he was still alive people. Overrated my ass... Blender I didnt buy ur [EXPLETIVE] before I def aint buying it now... [EXPLETIVE] idiots... Dont disrespect the best to ever do it.
ps you dont know [EXPLETIVE]... |
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GET EM LATINA,
Their hip hop knowledge goes back maybe 10 years, they got Pac on the mind, all they see is Pac lol. You are correct in what you say, also Treacherous 3 (Yes we can) incorporated r&b, UTFO (Roxanne Roxanne,Fairytale Lover,You Cold wanna be with me and others) and Grandmaster Flash (White Lines). These guys aint ready |
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I don't think everybody in NY thinks Big is betta than 2Pac cause I'm from NY and I think 2Pac is better than Biggie...And I know I can't be the only one from NY that thinks that. Big was the s**t but not betta than Pac. |
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@esotericdredz,
Thats the point, WE (Myself, You and Latina) listen to LYRICS, these youngstas listen to CUSS WORDS. A rapper says "MF" thats HOT to them. They got a modern day lyricist in papposse but they sleep on him because he has substance, these ignorant kids dont want substance they want artificial MC's, ones who keep the education to a minimal. I GUARANTEE they will say Pac is a better lyracist than Pap. This is the level of IGNORANCE
Listen to FAIR ONE, PAP Murders Fat Joe. Hes not on Rakims Level but hes one of the best Modern Mcs
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@Been-Embarrassed...
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Yo and anyone who says Biggie was better then Pac is out ur god damn mind... Biggie had two albums that were good hes career was too short to be better or compared really. 94 to 97 ppl Pac was around in 91 to 96 wit a bunch of albums plus Big was afraid of Pac never dissed back bc he would lose... and for the haters THUG LIFE was a movement to get equal rights for blacks. Pick up a [EXPLETIVE] book. BIGs lyrics were hott but dont touch Pacs... Stop making [EXPLETIVE] up in ur mind and actually listen to both artists and you will see the truth...
2Pac Bitches... |
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Preach!!
HURTEMBAD
Lets not forget "Rapture" w/ Blondie, Fab 5 Freddie etc!!! lolololo |
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Ice cube was one of the coldest to bless the world of Hip Hop.
In fact, he's nunmber 2 in my book. I'll be picking up his new album this weekend. I heard some of the songs, it's dope with fly beats and he's keeping it positive and the same time without being preachy. |
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Pac isn't the best lyricist know one said that. He the BEST RAPPER though. All around not just lyrics. |
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Papoose is definitely under rated he does speak the truth I don't know why he don't get that much burn BUT maybe he's missin the passion and conviction in his flow or tone...somethin...but he don't get the recognition that he deserves. But Pap is fire too he speaks the truth...can't forget about Pap. |
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*number 2
*at the same time |
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FIRST OF ALL, ALL OF YOU TUPAC HATERS FROM NY PLEASE GO JUMP IN THE HUDSON AND MAKE SURE YOU DIE A SLOW DEATH!! WHAT DO YOU MEAN HE WAS 80% IMAGE AND NOT A REAL RAPPER AND A FAKE GANGSTER? YOU FOOLS YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND ALL OF THAT IS WHAT MAKES YOU A GREAT RAPPER!!! SO LET ME GET THIS STRAIT BIGGIE AND KRS-1 ARE BETTER BUT YET NOBODY CARES ABOUT ONE OF THEM AND PAC WAS MORE POPULAR AND OUT SOLD BOTH OF THEM PUT TOGETHER, BUT YET PAC IS OVERRATED?? PACS PERSONALITY IS WHAT MADE HIM INTO WHO HE WAS AND THAT IS A GOOD THING NOT A NEGATIVE THING. PEOPLE CHANGE UP THE GAME ALL THE TIME.. EVERYBODY LIKES LL AND CHANGED UP HIS GAME..JAY Z HAS PRETTY MUCH KEPT THE SAME STYLE AND CAN NO LONGER SELL RECORDS...WHO IN THIS DAY AND AGE CAN SELL MORE ALBUMS DEAD THAN THEY CAN ALIVE? THE RAPPERS THAT NEED TO BE ON THIS OVERRATED LIST ARE [EXPLETIVE] LIKE CHINGY, BOW WOW, JD, E-40 COME ON MAN GET REAL! PAC WAS THE [EXPLETIVE] NUFF SAID! |
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@ HurtMeBad...I co-sign 100%
It reminds me of The Listening by Little Brother (another group reppin' it for real hip-hop)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26AFB-2oMHU
Music was my sanctuary so I take a long listen
To hip hop living out my life in songs wishin
My parents I could get along with them
So I would go inside my room and dig deep inside the strong rhythms
Back when fresh was the word, and raw was on prism
Marley on the boards, plus Kane was long livin
G rap and A spittin murderous
Bought long live the kane sat down and learned every word of it
Sneakin my walkman in the homeroom playin it
Listen for punchlines delivery and cadences
But nowadays it's like n!ggaz wanna play with it
They hear some good [EXPLETIVE] but don't stop to savor it
Like one night we was out in my whip
With some broads just chillin playin demos and [EXPLETIVE]br />
Asked 'em how I sounded rockin the mike
One chick told me all she listened to was beats, thank god for 9th
Trying to get pressed on vinyl cause muh'[EXPLETIVE] buy your CD
But turn around don't even know your song titles
Like track 2 is hot, and track 6 is long
Ain't even listening, I'm hoping I get through to y'all
[chorus]
This is a message for our people chasing benjamins
With real rhymes and skills they believing in
Keeping them bad tapes rolling like michellin
it don't matter, cause n!ggaz ain't listening
They ain't listening, they thinkin bout they timbalands
They say the [EXPLETIVE] we talk about ain't interestin
We got a better chance of blowing up in switzerland
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anyone that says tupac is not the illest or @ least one of the illest is a dumb Bi0tch. West coast all day. biggy is cool but im from the west side & u and i both know its the best side!
oh yeah someone mentioned pac was from NY well thats true and that shows you how hard cali really goes he could have been talking bout son and all that otha bull east coast niggz be talking bout, but instead he got that cali swag!!!
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Whoooo thats what I'm talkin about!!!!! |
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WHY ARE PEOPLE CONSTANTLY COMPARING BIG TO PAC, I KNOW HE CAME ALONG AND HELD NEWYORK DOWN BECAUSE WESTCOAST WAS WHOOPIN YALL ASS IN THE 90'S BUT THAT DONT MAKE HIM BETTER THAN PAC, HIS TRACK RECORD CANT EVEN TOUCH PAC'S, ARE YOU SERIOUS? I AINT HATIN ON BIG OR NEWYORK BUT THE ONLY REASON HE EVEN GETS COMPARED TO PAC WAS BECAUSE OF HOW THEY DIED OTHER THAN THAT ALL THAT COMPARISON [EXPLETIVE] NEEDS TO STOP. LIKE SOMEONE SAID EARLIER, BIG HAD NY, PAC HAD THE WHOLE US. GET OVER IT. THE MOST OVERRATED ARTIST IS ELVIS. THE MOST OVERRATED RAPPER IS LIL' WAYNE. GET IT RIGHT FOLKS! |
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There's gonna' be some stuff that your gonna' see
That's gonna' make it hard to smile in the future
(No Doubt)
But whatever you see, through all the rain and pain
You gotta keep a sense of humor
Gotta be able to smile through all this bullshit
Remember that
Just keep ya head up
Our lifesytles be closed caption
Addicted to fatal attractions
Pictures and actions be played back
In the midst of mashin'
No fairytales for this young black male
Some see me stranded in this land of Hell
Jail and crack cells
culture
Or the repercussion
While bustin' on back-stabbing vultures
Sellin' my soul
For material wishes
Fast cars and b****es
Wishin' I live my life a legend
Immortalized in pictures
Why shed tears, save your sympathy
My childhood years
Was spent burying my peers in the cemetary
Here's a message to the newborns
Waiting to breath:
"If you believe then
you can achieve, just look at me"
Against all odds
Though life is hard, we carry on
Living in the projects
Broke with no lights on
To all the G's that follow me
Protect your essence
Born with less but your still precious
Just smile for me now
Chours:
Ohhh Won't you smile for me
(2Pac: Jus smile for me now)
Ohhh Won't you smile for me
(N***a you black, smile for me now)
Ohhh Won't you smile for me
(You ain't got nothin' to worry about)
(Smile for me now)
Ohhh Won't you smile for me
(and the next generation)
F**k tha world
As we unload, we witness furious speeds
Un-answered questions keep us all stressin'
Curious G's
Back stabbed and bleeding
Crooked thoughts
Laced with weed
Learnin', duckin' stray shots
Bullets be hot
They burnin'
Inhale the sherm smoke
Visualize the flames
Will I be smothered by my own pain?
Strange wisdoms
Cowards conversate'
So quick to dis' us
Takin' pictures for the Feds
In desperate hopes they get us
Hit us all, give us plenty centuries
Forgive my stance
Sense I entered many penitentiaries
The best revenge
Is f**k friends
We milatary minded souljahs
Bustin' shots blindly
Trying to find Jehovah
To help me
Somebody save me
Lost and crazy
Scared to drop a seed
Hopin' I ain't cursed babies
Maybe now
N***az feel me now
Picture my pain
Embrace my words
Make the world change
And still I smile n***a
IS NOT NOT EMPOWERING & UPLIFTING? I LOVE 2PAC HEARING THIS SONG ALWAYS MAKES ME SMILE...I'M SMILIN NOW :-) |
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SOMEONE SAID LIK WAYNE WAS OVER-RATED AND I AGREE. IT IS LIKE THE RAP GAME WAS LOOKING FOR SOMEBODY AND WAYNE CHANGED HIS FLOW UP TO FILL THAT VOID BUT IT WAS PUTTING A SQUARE PEG IN A ROUND HOLE.
ANYONE OUT THERE WHO LOVES REAL HIP HOP CANNOT LOOK FOR IT ON THE RADIO NOWADAYS...OR EVEN TOO MUCH ON MIXTAPES BECAUSE PAYOLA IS TARGETTING SOME OF THOSE DJ-S. I FIND PEOPLE ALL THE TIME BY DOWNLOADING AND ASSOCIATION. FOR EXAMPLE: 1.I WENT TO A LITTLE BROTHER CONCERT AND HEARD THE OPENING ACTS: PSALM ONE AND BROTHER ALI
2. DOWNLOAD AND YOUTUBE ANYTHING I CAN FIND ON THOSE ARTISTS
3. LOOK UP THEIR PRODUCERS AND WHO THEY ROLL WITH AND BOOM! UNDERGROUND MUSIC UNEARTHED.
IF IT IS NOT OLD SCHOOL, GOLDEN AGE HIP HOP....THAT IS WHERE I GET MY MUSIC FROM NOWADAYS. THERE IS VERY LITTLE WORTH LISTENING TO MAINSTREAM
ON ANOTHER NOTE....A LOT OF MY FAVORITE ARTISTS COME OUT WITH ALBUMS AND THERE IS NO ADVERTISING, NO PUBLICITY, NO PROMOTION....LL WAS RIGHT...WHAT THE HELL IS JAY-Z DOING OVER THERE AT DEF JAM?? |
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I WILL GIVE YOU THAT! RASS KASS IS A GIFTED INDIVIDUAL. WHICH BRINGS ME TO ANOTHER POINT: THE BEST RAPPERS NEVER REALLY SOLD THE MOST RECORDS BEFORE JAY CAME ALONG.
PAC SOLD MORE DEAD JUST LIKE DAVINCI AND PICASSO'S PAINTINGS BECAME MORE VALUABLE POST-MORTEM. HE WAS GOOD AND EXTREMELY INFLUENTIAL BUT IF I HAD A GUN TO MY HEAD AND HAD TO PICK THE TOP 10 LYRICISTS OF ALL TIME...I WOULD NOT COME CLOSE TO MENTIONING HIS NAME. |
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@HURTEMBAD,
You are feeling yourself too much homie. I'm really scared of you. You must be high of coke!!! |
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I agree (some) NY nyggas gas that nygga up way too much! His lyrical content was average at best, but his delivery was phenomenal. With him it was style over substance, Pac was the opposite. He dropped songs like Brenda Got A Baby, Who Do You Believe In, Smile, So Many Tearz, Dear Momma, Changes, etc., etc. that Biggie can't fuk wit even on his best day! |
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PAC IS AND WILL ALWAYS BE THE GREATEST...LYRICALLY, CHARISMA, DELIVERY, PACKAGE, WORK ETHIC, CONTENT, FREE STYLE, INFLUENCE AND TOPIC.....HE SPIT THE FUKK'N TRUTH ALL THE TIME! AFTER THE OJ VERDICT, BLENDER, ALONG WITH ALL OF WHITE SOCIETY HAS CHOSEN TO DISMISS, TEAR DOWN, SABOTAGE, STEAL, MANIPULATE AND CONTROL BLAKK GREATNESS, FUKK EM ALL! |
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first blender, you need to put your mags. in the blender. PAC is the best all round hip hop artist ever.. Pac is a leader that alot of these heavyweight rapper looked up too. Pac start singing alittle in his song ,since then big, 50, jay-z even LIL wayne, start doing it. He ways sweeter around than BIG. BIG was a hell of a rapper but not a full artist. THat why you dont have no DEAR MAMA, and brenda"s got a baby from BIG. see as a person, i want to feel something that relates to the world, SOMETHING REAL!!! PAC made you think when you listen to certain song from him,.. BIG needed alittle more time to developed into a full artist, time to write more song of substance,classic in any genre of music. PAC is in a class of his own. and that why he sell more now. and please stop mention BIG name everytime you mention PAC, and vice versa THey both sweet in their own right, and dont hate the brotha pac cause he had charistma.. PLUS BLENDER YOU FROM THE UK, AS A MAGAZINE YOU AIN BOUT TO TELL ME SH-- BOUT PAC OR ANY OTHER HIP HOP ARTIST.. CASE CLOSED, SHALOM!! |
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I wish people would stop comparing Pac to Biggie.
apples and oranges
unless its hidden somewhere Biggie didnt even release enough material to be put up against Pac.
Fuc.k Blender |
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I HATE READING SH-T LIKE THIS CAUSE IT MAKES ME MADDER THAN A MUTHAFUCKA!! (2PAC) OVERRATED? YEAH FUC-ING RIGHT!! WHO EVER AGREE WITH THAT BULLSH-T IS RETARDED CAUSE (PAC) WAS THAT DUDE AND ALWAYS WILL BE CAUSE WHEN HE'S ON THE MIC: YOU LISTEN TO EVERY WORD. WHEN HE'S BEING INTERVIEWED: YOU LISTEN TO EVERY WORD. WHY? CAUSE HE RAPPED AND TALKED REAL SH-T SO "BELIEVE THE HYPE" HE WAS AND STILL IS THE GREATEST RAPPER OF HIS ERA FROM THE 90's AND TO THIS DAY SO STOP WITH THE COMPARING. |
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Biggie gets mad props because he is the original who didn't need a pen & a pad everything Big spit was straight off the dome on the spot...Jay Z & Wayne try to act like they don't write when they do...they tryna copy Big. Biggie didn't write and that's impressive to people when someone can jus spit a rhyme at the drop of a dime and not stutter of f**k up jus straight flow...So I guess that's why people sweat Big or whatever...cause he was one of a kind in his own lil way too...jus not on Pac's creative level. |
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@brooklyn latina....u don't look like a hip hop coneseau at all, maybe its the pic and ur sensitive attitude, anyway...rakim is king, pac is close, big thrilled us, and krs is what g-rap is, like no other. screw blender mag! |
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I UNDERSTAND THAT EVERYBODY HAS THEIR OWN OPINION AND I DEFINETLY UNDERSTAND THAT BECAUSE OF THEIR BEEF AND UN-SOLVED DEATHS...(PAC) AND (BIGGIE) NAMES WILL ALWAYS GO TOGETHER BUT ON THE MUSIC SIDE OF THIS SH-T! THERE SHOULDN'T BE NOTHING TO ARGUE ABOUT, TALK OR DISCUSS CAUSE THEY DON'T EVEN COMPARE (PAC) WAS WAY BETTER. |
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I actually agree. I think Tupac was cool but he didn't compare to Biggie. I think that Tupac definitely had the rapping voice, but that's about it. Kinda like Eazy E had the voice, but that was it. I feel that there are many other rappers who would crush Tupac in battle. I do truly miss him, but he was overrated. Just my opinion |
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So many people get caught up into the beat and the sound of rap. Tupac had that hands down. Literally speaking, Tupac couldn't even begin to compete on a level of the real rappers ( Biggie,Big Daddy Kane,Andre 3000,KRS-1, NAS,Jay-Z...) |
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Yes! Yes!! Blender magazine is correct- They hated Tupac's trashy ass until he died. He was a rapist and a thug- But when he dies. He is a poet and a genius. He went from thug nicca to genius. Also, that black fatass Biggie was no genius. he was a pitch black wanna be thug. He was no poet. Tupac is OVERATED- I loved his music but the truth is he was a rapist thug |
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BLENDER CAN SUCK COW NUTS!!!!! FAKE LOW BUDGET MAGAZINE...LOL PAC WAS THE ILLEST AND REALIST!!! WEST SIDE TIL WE DIE!!! EAT DOG SH$T BLENDER AND BLEN THESE NUTS N UR MOUTH. |
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I dont look like alot of things,lol thats why I hate steroetypes cuz people have always been wrong about me about alot of thing.
I'm over 30, born and raised in the PJ's in Bklyn, NY...I know Hip hop well. I grew up with the best of Hip Hop. |
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I think people from the EastCoast may be a bit biased when it comes to this and Pac because of the so-called beef with Biggie...No Pac wasn't the greatest lyricist but to call him the most overrated ARTIST of all time is *in my best Mike Tyson voice* weedickulous...People have always loved Pac here waaay before he was killed...People used to rush home from school to watch Rap City because of Pac...
You can't deny that Rakim is the best...But seriously, Pac the most overrated artist of all time? Give me a break...And while Nas is my favorite rapper, he was inspired by both Pac and Rakim...and to this day, still reference Pac in his music...Black President anyone?
Even 50 shooting that line in "In Da Club" I want'em to love me like they loved Pac"...Shyt blew up and he blew up... |
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TO: (smackdat) ONE THING I KNOW IS DEFINETLY NOT OVERRATED IS YO AZZ...LOL. FROM 1 TO 10, YOU GET A 10. With That Being Said Now I Can State My Opinion. When I Think Of The Word OVERRATED, There's 3 People That Come To Mind And PAC Is Not One Of Them. The 3 I Think Is OVERRATED Is BIGGIE, JAY-Z & LIL WAYNE. |
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*sings*
Only God can judge me, is that right?
(Only God can judge me now)
Only God baby, nobody else, nobody else
All you other motherfcukers get out my business
He said it. Get out his business. Bye haters!! Tupac is not over-rated. And no, he was no rapist, he was just "judged" by the public. Just because you read a headline on the news "Rapper Tupac Shakur convicted of blah blah blah" BULLSH!T!!! Who you gonna believe?? The news? They make mistakes...and lots of them. The system and the media together has ALWAYS dropped sh!t on celebs. They love to label. |
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Blender loves to do that - let very skilled writers attack other people who aren't as prolific. But here's what they don't get - THEY ARE MERELY JUDGING THE ABILITY (or lack thereof) TO WRITE AND MUSIC IS ABOUT MUCH MORE THAN THE LYRICS! They've attacked icons in other cultures as well - Paul McCartney and Sting. |
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You look like Aaliyah's hotter sister!
You're right, Pac was hitting all over the U.S. Biggie was hot in New York. I'm originally from Cleveland, and he owned that mofo! |
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Pac was the illest and that's that!!!
Don't hate, just admit it. Imagine how [EXPLETIVE] would be if he were still here, most of these fake ass rappers wouldn't be here.
By the way....GO RED SOX AND YANKEES SUX!!! |
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@staypoppin
Pac in my opinion have tight lyrics, a deep story teller, and it was more on some getting you to feel that ish your heart. To me that was his gift. Biggie ran N.Y. Pac ran the United States.
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Nuff said...More people can relate to PAC and feel him because he had more variety...Biggie he was good no doubt, but has more of a NY fan base than worldwide...Biggie was not bumping like PAC Im sorry...everyone is entiled to their own opinion and thats mine...PAC ALLDAY LONG BABY! |
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Lexia is that you??
Go head pretty girl! lol |
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@erbody who think pac was a great LEADER ra ra ra....how can u build up tha blacc community then tear it down...lets b real...if we talk bout lyrics..then its bacc n forth all day...but if we bring in sum real facts...he would yes up lift us and then tear us down..he made classic up liftin songs but then would set us bacc like coons....2 b the leader of the jr blacc panther party but then smoke, spend ya money on clotes and bs...then talk down 2 tha blacc woman...what r u really sayin...a bunch of $hit |
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What is Dis Magazine talkn bout 2pac is overrated [EXPLETIVE] please and then pple sayn how he fake cuz he said [EXPLETIVE] da east cuz he from n.y. when he got shot up almost died in new york and no body from new york cared about him when biggie was da one behind i would say [EXPLETIVE] N.Y. 2 what rapper you know could switch up his music name a whos smarter pac vocabulary is betta than pac and if he aint die no body whould be talkn about biggie cuz it would've been like 50 and ja rule or 50 and fat joe lil wayne saying he was never a fan of 2pac if 2pac was alive he wouldnt even be rapper cuz pac wouldve been finish duke career man stop playn |
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@Stay Poppin thanks!
@BKLatina, yes that's me...And I love your new picture you have up... |
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I met Tupac and he foul dude. He was a passionate rapper and a better actor but he wasn't a lyricist and was hella negative towards women!
He was overrated but not the most overrated. That would be Pink Floyd! |
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@Louisvilleslugger got a crush on Pac, quit riddin Pacs d*ck. You sound like a clown. Michael Jackson sold more than James Brown but whos better? JAMES. Pac sold WAY more than Rakim but whos better? RAKIM. E-40 is a better Mc than Pac too, hes more versatile got more game and got way more hustle, EVERY baller in the game bumps some 40 water. Question, If Pac was alive and dropped his boxers would you sucK???
Keep it real now. LOL
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E-40 better than Pac? STOP IT WOULD CHA! U JUST LOST ALL CREDIBILITY TO YOUR DEBATE BABY...I like "drought season" by e-40 but he is no comparison to what PAC has put out!
May God rest both of their souls (Pac & Biggie).
Memphis Tn by way of Shelbyville Tn by way of TACOMA WASHINGTON BABY!
Oh and quit acting like yall wasn't doing the humpty hump! Yeahhhhh |
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Weezy kills Pac too...
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AGAIN YOUR CREDIBILITY IS SHOT...I LIKE WAYNE DONT GET ME WRONG BUT COME ON THOSE "DOPED UP" LYRICS AINT HELPING NO ONE...PAC ATLEAST RAPPED ABOUT SOME REAL STUFF...STOP IT WOULD CHA?! WEEZY BETTER THAN PAC...I GUESS T.I IS BETTER THAN PAC TOO RIGHT?
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ALL EYEZ ON ME 9X PLATINUM ESTIMATED TO GO DIAMOND IN ABOUT...5...4...3...2...1 LOL
THEY DO ESTIMATE IN A FEW MONTHS IT WILL BE DIAMOND! GO PAC! |
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Check it out ...
Do you all realize all you are doing is arguing over two different men, as well that TIRED ASS Coast fight. Most West Coasters love Pac, and most hollerin for Biggie is a East Coaster.
People, we live completely different lives depending on where we maintain, plain and simple. The things that Pac RAPPED about were real and trust, very relevant in the West. He was a complex man with many facets. He never denied that. T.H.U.G Life was a turned into a GANGSTER thing after the mainstream news gave it that classification.
The truth? ...
The.
Hate.
U.
Give
Little.
Infants.
[EXPLETIVE].
Everyone.
He saw so many things in his life, born to an imprisioned Black Panther mother to running the streets of some of the poorest areas of the Bay Area ALONE, no mom or dad. D.U took a chance on a dude who was hungry. Period. They started showing him the industry, where to go and what to do. Pac said he found his game in the West, in the Bay to be exact. So what? He wasn't talkin bout Eff NY until after dude gets caught up on a RAPE charge, meanwhile getting shot up one day before getting his ass carted off to jail ... all in the same place. NEW YORK. Do you blame the man? Seriously?
Granted Biggie was far superior when it came to Lyrical flow .. Now call me crazy, you guys say when he went to Death Row, he became gangster but if you LISTEN, I mean really listen, to So Many Tears, you will hear it in his voice, where the change was already beghinning. But So Many Tears is on Me Against The World. Produced by Shock G ...
And please do NOT act like ya'll weren't lsitenin to the Humpty if not that, Freaks of The Industry. C'Mon now.
He was incredibly intelligent, flamboyant, charasmatic, beautiful smile .. He could contradict himself in a heartbeat but usually when we've seen so many sides it could become easy to feel that way at 20 - 25 years old.
Why do we continue to argue about this [EXPLETIVE] still?
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HE WAS GOOD AND EXTREMELY INFLUENTIAL BUT IF I HAD A GUN TO MY HEAD AND HAD TO PICK THE TOP 10 LYRICISTS OF ALL TIME...I WOULD NOT COME CLOSE TO MENTIONING HIS NAME.
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And they would probably put your finger on the trigger so you could KILL YO'SELF...im not knocking anyones opinion but dayum the majority would have PAC on their top 10, come on now!
This is getting good! One of the best threads in a while hell i was tired of Beyonce and Obama...and PALIN! |
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If I said it once I said it twice. NY n!ggas ride Biggies dick two damn hard for two fuking albums (3 altogether)! Pac's damn wannabe clone ass, fake ass n!gga, JaRule, moved more albums than Biggie! Why? Because this n!gga copied everything about Pac, but he was/is just a cheap imitation! But he still moved records, pre the 50 cent beef! Who copying Biggie? Gorilla Black or some sh!t? Fukk outta here. |
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AND one more thing before i go...why does it matter that he was with Digital Underground as a back up dancer, carrying equipment, etc...its called paying dues...getting your foot in the door...networking...HELLO!
LOL, if you kiss me then I'll kiss you back! Smack me and I'll smack you back...
Hurtmebad i guess those lyrics are better than Pacs too huh? LOL
Good Night Erbody! |
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THIS WORLD IS DEFINETLY COMING TO A END WHEN A WACK-ASS-NO-NAME MAGAZINE CALL 2PAC OF ALL PEOPLE OVERRATED AND THEN SEE PEOPLE COME ON HERE AND SAY BIGGIE WAS A BETTER LYRICIST AND COMPARE E-40 & LIL WAYNE TO 2PAC...LOL. WHAT THE F-CK ARE YA'LL DRINKING, SMOKING OR SNIFFING!!! |
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WTF is blender magazine??? They saying thys shyt for publicity becuase no one knows who the [EXPLETIVE] they are. So they go after Pac? Anyone who knows hip hop knows Tupac is in any event under-rated. To blender if anyone from the company is reading this by chance you will still continue to be a no name two-bit wannabe "magazine". I hope your piece of crap "mag" goes down the toilet and the writer of the article continues to land dumb ass jobs like working for no name ass companies that have no place and the real world. Get off that shyt you all are smoking. It's clearly not good healthy. |
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@ hurt em bad....
L.O.L at you skeetin on a corps...
But for real you could never be on my Level homie....
and if you was in Cali i would make you take those words back and knock your fucin teeth out...
loc you know what it is....
Majority of the comments say Pac is the best...
big was a better MC but he couldnt [EXPLETIVE] with the topic's pac had...
and how is pac fake for being a back up dude at the age of 17 teen... for claiming to be a thug at 20...
he was still a kid..? S.M.H if anybody was fake it was Big homie... [EXPLETIVE] aint hustled shyt... at least pac told the up's and down's of the game... |
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if you say pac wasnt gangsta until deatrow you a hoe...
nicca check out thug life when he rappin with a bunch of LA crip cats... unifying cats that dont even get along in the streets...
now saying something like pac was a square until he came to cali at the age of 17 is different....
but at the same timehe never claimed a gang or none of that bullshit you got cats at the age of 25 just now claiming bloods... and they calling him the best? they hated songs like white men's world so they are trying to [EXPLETIVE] on his legacy... |
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Here's a little literature for the people who dont understand Tupac too well:
CODE OF THUG LIFE
“I didn’t create T.H.U.G. L.I.F.E., I diagnosed it.” – Tupac Shakur.
In 1992 at the ‘Truc Picnic’ in Cali, Tupac was instrumental in getting rival members of the Crips and Bloods to sign the Code Of THUG LIFE.
He and Mutulu Shakur had helped write up the ‘code’ , with help from other ‘og’s’.
The Code of THUG LIFE is listed here.It details do's and don'ts for being a righteous thug and banger.
Code OF THUG LIFE:
1. All new Jacks to the game must know: a) He’s going to get rich. b) He’s going to jail. c) He’s going to die.
2. Crew Leaders: You are responsible for legal/financial payment commitments to crew members; your word must be your bond.
3. One crew’s rat is every crew’s rat. Rats are now like a disease; sooner or later we all get it; and they should too.
4. Crew leader and posse should select a diplomat, and should work ways to settle disputes. In unity, there is strength!
5. Car jacking in our Hood is against the Code.
6. Slinging to children is against the Code.
7. Having children slinging is against the Code.
8. No slinging in schools.
9. Since the rat Nicky Barnes opened his mouth; ratting has become accepted by some. We’re not having it.
10. Snitches is outta here.
11. The Boys in Blue don’t run nothing; we do. Control the Hood, and make it safe for squares.
12. No slinging to pregnant Sisters. That’s baby killing; that’s genocide!
13. Know your target, who’s the real enemy.
14. Civilians are not a target and should be spared.
15. Harm to children will not be forgiven.
16. Attacking someone’s home where their family is known to reside, must be altered or checked.
17. Senseless brutality and rape must stop.
18. Our old folks must not be abused.
19. Respect our Sisters. Respect our Brothers.
20. Sisters in the Life must be respected if they respect themselves.
21. Military disputes concerning business areas within the community must be handled professionally and not on the block.
22. No shooting at parties.
23. Concerts and parties are neutral territories; no shooting!
24. Know the Code; it’s for everyone.
25. Be a real ruff neck. Be down with the code of the Thug Life.
26. Protect yourself at all times..
Ring a bell?? Take that, Blender magazine. |
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To THAREAL.....I'm guessing you don't know much about Pac. But Pac was catching cases b4 he was with Death Row. He didnt start getting arrested until he made it big, but he was crazy way b4 death row. He was in jail and Suge was the one that bailed him out. He beat up the Huges Brothers b4 Death Row. Shot them police b4 Death Row. Thug Life Vol 1 was b4 Death Row and so was Me Against the World. I forgot the name of the DVD but if you listen to Shock G and the lady Pac lived with when he moved to Cali, Pac had mental issues.
So what he was with Digital Underground. [EXPLETIVE] got make money somehow. B4 them he was dirt poor.
Pac did get crazier with Death Row, but I think that had more to do with he knew he was going to die soon. Dude had been shot 5 times, beat up by the po po, was in jail for a year for nothing. I wake up and screw [EXPLETIVE] the World too.
They claim that I'm violent, just cause I refuse to be silent
These hypocrites are havin fits, cause I'm not buyin it
Defyin it, envious because I will rebel against
any oppressor, and this is known as self defense
I show no mercy, they claim that I'm the lunatic
But when the sh*t gets thick, I'm the one you go and get
Don't look confused, the truth is so plain to see
Cause I'm the [EXPLETIVE] that you sell-outs are ashamed to be
In every Jeep and every car, brothers stomp this
I'm Never Ignorant, Getting Goals Accomplished
The underground railroad on an uprise
This time the truth's gettin told, heard enough lies
I told em fight back, attack on society
If this is violence, then violent's what I gotta be
If you investigate you'll find out where it's comin from
Look through our history, America's the violent one
Unlock my brain, break the chains of your misery
This time the payback for evil sh*t you did to me
They call me militant, racist cause I will resist
You wanna censor somethin, motherf**ker censor this!
My words are weapons, and I'm steppin to the silent
Wakin up the masses, but you, claim that I'm violent |
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Pac was/is the greatest. Blender once again wrote a story to stir people up.
People who know this music wouldnt even debate his influence to the genre.
A LOT of artists wouldnt be eating so well if Pac was alive ;) LoL!!
it is what it is.....2Pac is the truth. |
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I AM in Cali fool. IMPERIAL VILLAGE CRIP CUZ! If I seen you youd be trying to call DEUCES sucka *ss n*gga. Tupac is a RAPIST, I said that! Dont get on here loccin up, I ride on hoe *ss nuccas like you. BOSS UP. AINT ONE real nucca alive call Pac a hog or a Thug. Takin P-hole aint thuggish its SCANDOLOUS, my bad he didnt take coochie he took booty, ole sodomizing nucca. Ya'll reppin a LEVEL 3 SEX OFFENDER. Pac didnt do nothin but perpetuate HATERISM, he was a angry individual who had a bunch of male groupie fans AND YOU ONE OF EM. I boss up 24/7 homie. A Boss recognize a boss and the real recognize the real. If you think Pac is a REAL NUCCA, then that tells me alot about your character. Wadnt Pac DRY SNITCHIN tellin the world that Biggie and Puff set him up to get shot??? How is that GANGSTA? Wadnt Pac cryin like a BROAD when he was goin to court, when he was found quilty? HOW IS THAT GANGSTA?? Pac was a good SH*T Talker,it is what it is but when did he put in any work? Pac get around some real hed be shakin like a dice game, old soft nucca. Same go for Snoop he aint gangsta either, 40 glock the realist cat with them. I keep it hood and I'm feelin all hood Nuccas not them artificial cats you reppin like PAC. |
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'When her son finally ask that questions
Where my daddy at?
Mama, Why we live so poor?
Why you crying?
Heard you late night
Throught my bedroom door
Now do you love me mama?
Why do they keep calling me [EXPLETIVE]?
Get my wieght up, with my hate
and pay 'em back when I'm bigger
Still thugging in this jail cell
MIssing my block
Hearing brothers screaming all night
Wishing they'd stop
Proud to be black
But why do we act like
We don't love oursleves
Don't look around
busta (you sucka)
Check yourselves
know what if means to be black
whether a man or girl
we're still struggling in this
White man's world'
the from a white's mans world a 2pac death row song. when i hear that shyt tears come to my eyes. either u love pac or u don't... HE WAS FAR FROM OVERRATED |
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FUC*K BLENDER WITH AN AIDS D*** DIPPED IN SH*T
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I have to agree with this magazine. I said this for years. Pac is overated. He is no gangsta, no revolutionary.
he was just an actor, who new how to create controversy to sell records. that's why people gravitated towards him. They were impressed at the character he portrayed. Nothing more.
He was Overated!!!!! |
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Please, I have never heard of this magazine until now! Fuk'em! Don't hate! Best believe that if he had offered their ass's an interview they would have jumped on his DIK! |
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what does your little saying at the end og your posts mean? Who is God to you? Do you fear him? Do you even remember what it says? Please go to sleep before you mess yourself! Are you trying to get us to buy more Rakim/Nas albums? I am really trying to understand here! HELP ME UNDERSTAND! |
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Damn, I go to work and come back to this bytch and the usual suspect, homomebad, still up here e-banging. But for real homie, banging on the net aint gangsta! Go get a job! Yo ass been up here along damn time.
Now some square ass niccas talking about fabolous vs. Pac. WTF! And some other nicca talking about 15 niccas in the game nicer than Pac. Name 'em! I guess the first would be Soullja Boy, T.I. and Ross! Simple ass niccas. |
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MTO, please let Tupac r.i.p... he was a great rapper,actor, speaker, he went through different phases in the publics eyes..he wasn't perfect but it wasn't phony he was a real ass [EXPLETIVE] and why everytime I read someone's comments on here thats negatively speaking on the dude they from the east coast and only list east coast rappers they feeling..thats so close-minded..thats cool you can like who you want but the the west embraces all coasts while the east stay stuck on they [EXPLETIVE]...which might I add there's nobody really hot out that way besides Jay-Z now he he's a little what I call commercial since he got so much loot he's not tripping off selling good records just mediocre for the people to here now..east coast one day I hope yawl broaden your horizons some and Brooklyn Latina not tryna diss you but I gotta pet-peeve about spelling, pls use your spell check when talking down about a dead man. Especially one that will be a rap legend forever whether you like it or not..>>>>simplysweet08...throwing up the WEST 2 YOU>>>>>>>>> |
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This is my uncles joint not mine, so the religious chatter at the bottom is all him not me, Go to the forums he be killin fools on the religion. Me? I'm a street nucca and a street n*ggas hate fake thugs and Pac was a fake thug. Did you see the interview where he said "There was other people in the room but I'm the only one to get arrested, cause I'm Tupac Shukur, why am I the only one here?" WHAT KIND OF A STREET CAT SAY THAT?? hes basically saying "Why aint they in jail with me? the was there too!" In the hood we call that DRY SNITCHIN. He did alot of that, thats why REAL cats from the street FEEL his music but recognize it for what it is, ITS JUST ENTERTAINMENT TO SELL RECORDS.
@Louisville NUT JUGGLER, I dont work homie, I HUSTLE. You need to be trying to get some of this "work" off me, ole broke nucca, I'll front you a sack. I dont E-bang thats for cowids LIKE YOU! I bang 4 life homie IVC GANGSTA CRIP Nucca, yous a NUT RIDER. You wanna dim cats who was cryin when Pac passed hunh? You wanna dim cats screamin PAC AINT DEAD, PAC AINT DEAD! Real heads say I love Pac (no homo). You say "I love Pac (homo) lol |
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[EXPLETIVE] THEM MUTHAFUKERS THEY SOME HATERS TALKIN BOUT HE OVER RATED [EXPLETIVE] PLEASE HE AINT OVER RATED LIL WAYNE ASS OVER RATED TALKIN BOUT SOME LOLIPOP AND SOME OTHER STUPID ASS [EXPLETIVE] AND THIS ALL SATRTED WEN THAT FAT BITCH FAITH EVANS SAID HE RAPED HER. SHE A BUST DOWN AND A LIER. AND THEY SOME LAME AND LIL WAYNE JUST MAD BECAUSE IF PAC WAS ALIVE HE WOULD BE THE BEST RAPPER ALIVE NOT LIL WAYNE LIL WAYNE 27 AND 2PAC WOULDA BEEN 37 THIS YEAR MORE GAME AND MO RECORDS AND HE IS DECEASED BEEN FOR 12YRS AND BEEN MAKING ALUMS RECORDS DEFINITION OF A TRUE THUG NOT IN THE BAD WAY LIKE THESE [EXPLETIVE] THINK BUT I THE GOODEST INTELLIGENT WAY POSSSIBLE.P.S THESE PEOPLE JUST GOT TREATED BY A 12 YEAR OLD MAKAVELI 2 DEATH THUG LIFE AND IM NOT INFLUNCE BY A BAD PERSON . IM INFLUNCE BY AN ACTOR.POET,RAPPER AND A TRUE THUG |
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msmochachina I agree with you. I wonder do they think Elvis is overrated too? Hell, that man to this day still has people impersonating him in Vegas.....SMH
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Hurtembad,
Pac's sexual assault case wasn't open and shut. There were a lot of things that went into that case. I've heard that he wasn't the assaulter.
And as far as the courses on his music, there have been several interview on them. A few of them are at Ivy league universities such as Harvard.
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Homomebad,
You broke, simple ass nicca! Hustling, what the fukk you hustling nicca? Yo black ass been on this sh!t all fukking day, beating off to Hypnotize! Square ass clown mufucka false claiming get yo ass kilt, oh but I forgot you are an e-thug! What the fukk you gonna do nicca hack my sh!t! Nobody believes the sh1t you saying; you listen to e-40! Nuff said. Take yo broke unemployed ass somewhere an get a damn job, so I won't have to support yo damn kids! |
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stop thiz [EXPLETIVE] hathin PAC DA BEST GETT LIKE HIM,RIDE OR DIE WHAT DO WE HAVE NOW? |
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This whole "Gangster Rap" shyt is TRASH! Do you hear those rock n roll mutha fucca's calln' their women bitches and hoes? Or Say'n they will kill each other or kill each other.....NO! Pecker's will not stand for this [EXPLETIVE]. It's these house ni99as that's falling for this bullshyt. And if you like it you are a fucc'n house ni99a! You bout' killing a nicca behind some drugs,but do nothing when cops kill your brother(Sean bell). House ni99as! |
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@Louisville NUTHUGGER,
Broke? I aint even gone respond to that. I can tell you broke just by the simple statements you made about 40, not ONE nucca in the game dont like 40, if you in the game, you cant help but like 40 cause he reps the game like no other. Even your lover Tupac used to f*ck wit some e-40. Yous a square from nowhere, you told on yourself MARK! False claimin? Nucca yous a poodle *ss n*gga, I'll touch you and have your COWID *ss gettin somewhere like ya clothes is on fire. Oh and here is 4 videos of YA BOY Pac, f*ckin wit some E-40 OLE SQUARE *SS N*GGA!
http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=wX3b4MJop4Q
http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=I19I7KFgLtA
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LOL AT BLENDER MAGAZINE AND LOL AT EVERYBODY SAYING BIG WAS BETTER THEN PAC. I THOUGHT WE 90% OF US HIP HOP HEADS [[ALL AROUND THE WORLD]] [[OF ALL AGE GROUPS]] AGREED PAC WAS BETTER THEN BIG LIKE 10 YEARS AGO.(big was raw as fu.ck though)
BIG WAS A BETTER LYRICIST THEN PAC AND PAC EVEN SAID THAT. THAT'S THE REASON WHY PAC SWOOPED HIS THEN UNKNOWN AZZ UP AND TOLD HIM HOW TO WRITE BARS AND ALSO PUT MONEY IN HIS POCKET. BUT AS FOR AN ALL AROUND MC..... LOL PAC WAS LIGHT YEARS AHEAD AND THAT'S WHY WE HAVING THIS CONVO ABOUT PAC AND NOT BIG.
@ HURTEMBAD
COME ON BLOOD, YOU SAID PAC WAS FAKE?? PAC WAS IN MORE TROUBLE [[BEFORE DEATH ROW]].IF YOU REALLY KNOW ABOUT PAC THEN YOU WOULD KNOW THIS. I'M NOT EVEN GONNA GO INTO ALL THE SH1T HE DID AND WAS INTO.
ANYWAY, HERE IS JUST ONE SONG/VIDEO (GOT ABOUT 30 MORE) FROM PAC THAT SH1T'S ON ANYTHING BIG EVER MADE!
2Pac - Papa'z Song
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His music was mostly about challenging the world and the system, raising issues around poverty, race, police brutality, and even bigger issues like war. He was a revolutionary and a social critic, one of the most influential and intelligent figures of our generation.
He had the potential to become quite a threat to the status quo and in my opinion it was always inevitable that he wouldn't live very long - just look at the history of the Shakurs to put his death in context. He was watched since birth by agents of the state, even his body guard was a secret FBI agent.
http://www.hiphophavoc4life.com/news/2007/10/tupac-bodyguard-says-he-was-undercover.html
His music for the most part educated and enlightened - watch Tupac: Resurrection to learn more about his life and where he was coming from.
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No one in this world will compare to him because he's one of a kind,especially not any Rapper that's out now, all rappers try to be like him but they can't(no fabrications baby)...Jay Z,JaRule,lil Wayne, Game..etc, there not deep at all,they rap about the same thing everyone else raps about.
You know we can talk all day, go back and fourth, But for me, To tell you the honest truth I really wish he was still alive, I learned so much from this individual. He really inspired me to believe in myself, he inspired me to go back to school, he inspired me to receive knowledge, and that learning is a never ending thing. He inspired me to think outside the box and love my race when I didn't at one time, He inspired me to love unconditional, he taught me to be more observant of people actions than the words from their mouth, words really mean nothing, if your offended by a word then you make it powerful, if your not offended then the word means nothing, so the power is in you not the word....I received a spiritual connection from him....I cannot put it in words how this human being changed my life. But to each is own.....If you feel Biggie has inspired you then so be it ,because I believe that allot of rappers including Biggie got some inspiration from this man.
I think that it depends on the person, I'm in to politics, I protest on what I believe in, I think if your a real person internally then his spirit will manifest in you, just like JESUS, not saying he is but the way people think about Jesus that's how we accept Tupac, he even said he wasn't the best rapper, he said he was the realist, he had the courage, bravery and spiritual connection to the world, and that's why we love him so much. So by saying this Tupac is in his own category. He was a Speaker not a Rapper.
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o.k first if you talking about that crap his mother put out with all those remixes yeah overratted,and yes his personality was inconsistent im from oakland i know but RemiMD2DC hit right on it, nobody FELT lyrics more like his he had passion that i had never been felt in rap before. |
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ok biggie was a great rapper he could put words together but pac was more than a rapper his a poet he cared about people you felt and believed what he said his songs you could relate to more than a biggie song he had and still has more heart that all of these rappers out its millions of people who respects him as a writer and as person.As a matter of fact he taught biggie believe it or not.If you listen to ready to die and me against world which are both classic albums but if you listen to the songs has on that album and the songs put out since he has been dead they have the same concepts as ready to die.pac said that while he was in jail he heard ready to die and felt biggie stole his style so he made some changes on me against world because the album was similar to his.anyway all this rappers are trying to be pac which can never happen. he shot a police officer in atlanta just because the police was messing with man and he felt they wasn't right for doing that what rapper would do that? this was before he became a so called gangster before he went to jail in 95.but anyway pac was the realest ever not just a good rapper but a good person read about before him before you talk about how overrated he is. biggie was good but he or anyone rapping can never be tupac or come close. remember he was only 25 and accomplished more that some people have in a lifetime. |
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Tupac is no way shape or form overrated, but he did over do it when he went to Death row, though "All Eyez on Me" and "Makaveli" were tight albums, his best work was way before he got to Deathrow.....Pac was passionate with his flow and had more deeper content. Now Biggie that dude lyrical skill was off the map, Biggie can rap his ass off, I remember the first time I heard "Ready to Die" and I was f***kin blowed away.....Big was one of the best and hands down you gotta give the ultimate respect to Rakim, just listen to "Follow the Leader" nuff said.....Jay-Z is one the best, but people go to the extreme when they put him as G.O.A.T.. Jay lost me after "Blueprint" but he's one of the best, But to me and I know I'm going to get flack for this, but Nobody can front on "Nasty Nas".....the many years I've been listenng to NAS I never heard him spit a weak verse, even on the party joints.....Nas is consistent, great content, switch up flow and can hang with any rapper lyrically and there are some dudes that can flow....Mainstream and Underground.....Lil' Wayne.....lol to me will never be in discussion I'm sorry Wayne stans but he's the one that's overrated....Annoying voice, no content, sometimes or a lot of the time mumbles on tracks....only thing good about Lil' Wayne is his work ethic, he keeps himself out there for people to listen...That's it.....None of Lil' Wayne albums will never touch Juvenile's "400 Degrees"....Selling the most records don't make u the best cause 50 Cent is garbage and I'm out..... |
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maybe this will clear some things upBERKELEY, Calif. -- Most people think of murdered rapper Tupac Shakur as just that, a rapper.
But 20-year old Arvand Elihu sees him for more than his rapping talent. To him, Shakur is an ideal study for students of poetry and history,
as important as any of the great writers and social commentators.
"Tupac was literally blessed," said the molecular and cell biology major at the University of California at Berkeley of the controversial superstar rap artist. "Not only did his poems flow nicely, he painted perfect pictures for readers and listeners."
The prestigious university has given Elihu permission to teach a course on one of the world's most highly controversial rappers, the late Shakur.
Elihu is the student instructor of a two-unit pass/fail course entitled "History 98, the Poetry and History of Tupac Shakur." The month-old course, part of a program in which students can create professor-approved courses of their own design, has already drawn an overflow of 80 students (30 above capacity) to each of its twice-weekly meetings, with more waiting to get in.
Elihu, who was born in Iran and transplanted to Beverly Hills, Calif. at an early age, said he's always been interested in "artists who expressed their personal lives" in song. Once his cousin introduced Elihu to the work of Shakur a few years ago, Elihu said he began to think of the rapper alongside other favorite artists such as Bob Dylan and Pearl Jam's Eddie Vedder, which led to his deeper look into the life of the Death Row Records artist who was murdered in a drive-by shooting in Las Vegas a year ago this Saturday.
"My cousin played the song 'Only God Can Judge Me' (from All Eyez on Me) and that line, 'got the doctor standing over me screaming I can make it/ got a body full of bullet holes, laying here naked,' just painted such an amazing picture. Which, of course, came true later as well," Elihu added grimly.
Shortly after Shakur's death, Elihu became a hard-core fan of his lyrics. While sitting in a course on medieval literature last year, he said he drawing parallels between Shakur's writing and historical literature. "I realized that he was misinterpreted and that he was literally blessed with the ability to put words together. I started making all these connections with his words and honor and bravery and I became convinced that his lyrics were poetry. That he's a modern, contemporary poet of our time."
Elihu said he became convinced that, in 300 years, when historians look back on late 20th-century society "no one could give a clearer picture of what was going on than Tupac Shakur."
However, Shakur's legacy of arrests and legal battles has some wondering whether the rapper's life is worth exploring. The controversy surrounding Shakur has continued more than a year after his murder with a lawsuit filed as recently as last week by Orlando Anderson, a suspect in the Shakur murder, for an alleged beating doled out by Shakur and Death Row boss Marion "Suge" Knight on the night of the rapper's murder.
"In some ways, yes, I have a problem with it," said Marilyn Merry, president of the Coalition of Labor Union Women (CLWU) and a long-time member of the National Political Congress of Black Women (NPCOBW), a group whose chair, Dr. C. DeLores Tucker, has filed suit against the rapper for his lyrics and spoken out frequently in opposition to gangsta rap. "We've (NPCOBW) often said that we're programming our youth for destruction with this music. In an academic setting, he's giving credence to some of the garbage he (Shakur) wrote."
However, Merry, herself a poet, said she could see some merit in studying the later, more introspective work of Shakur. "There's a possibility that it may have some value," Merry said. "Because it is in an academic arena and some of the songs that he wrote, like "Keep Ya Head Up," for young women, I thought that was positive."
Elihu's enthusiasm for the class so impressed history professor Robert Brentano, that the medieval history lecturer agreed to sponsor it. "One of the first readings in the class of mine Arvand took was by the British historian Gildas," Brentano said. "He was terribly excited about how that kind of a writer helped us understand the society he wrote about. I'd never seen anyone so interested in this subject and Arvand quickly made a connection between Gildas and Tupac, which he explained to the class in a very invigorating way."
Brentano then invited Elihu to reprise his lecture in a two-hour version for another medieval literature class. The professor, who admitted to being vaguely familiar with Shakur only through his still-unsolved drive-by murder, said he has since listened to Shakur's albums, but is "not in a position" to comment on his lyrics.
Shakur's former manager, Leila Steinberg, was a guest lecturer at Monday's class, and Elihu said he hopes that Shakur's mother and sister will address the class in the near future. The course is held Mondays and Wednesdays on the Berkeley campus.
Despite Shakur's often graphic depictions of ghetto existence and frequently crass and misogynist language, Brentano said his decision to sponsor Elihu's course didn't ruffle too many academic feathers. "My peers didn't necessarily look askance at the class, although one professor didn't think it was appropriate. He accepted my judgment of its merits, though," he said.
Elihu said he did not have it as easy.
"It was tough to convince people at first," said Elihu, deflecting comparisons to widely-ridiculed recent university classes at other institutions on the works of Keanu Reeves, Madonna and MTV. "People didn't see the depth in his work at first. But I think after a few classes, people have gained a respect for him, not as a rapper or political figure, but for his raw gift of poetry. Also this class is in harvard too |
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TUPAC
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we love you pac, R.I.P. my brotha |
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Album: 2Pacalypse Now
Song: Words of Wisdom
Killing us one by one
In one way or another
American will find a way to eliminate the problem
One by one
The problem is
the troubles in the black youth of the ghettos
And one by one
we are being wiped off the face of this earth
At an extremly alarming rate
And even more alarming is the fact
that we are not fighting back
Brothers, sistas, ni**as
When I say ni**as it is not the ni**a we are grown to fear
It is not the ni**a we say as if it has no meaning
But to me
It means Never Ignorant Getting Goals Acomplishes, ni**a
ni**as what are we going to do
Walk blind into a line or fight
Fight and die if we must like ni**as
This is for the ma*ses the lower cla*ses
The ones you left out, jobs were givin', better livin'
But we were kept out
Made to feel inferior, but we're the superior
Break the chains in out brains that made us fear yah
Pledge a legiance to a flag that neglects us
Honour a man that who refuses to respect us
Emmancipation, proclamation, Please!
ni**a just said that to save the nation
These are lies that we all accepted
Say no to drugs but the governments' keep it
Running through our community, killing the unity
The war on drugs is a war on you and me
And yet they say this is the Home of The Free
But if you ask me its all about hyprocracy
The constitution, Yo, it don't apply to me
Lady Liberty still the bi**h lied to me
Steady strong nobody's gonna like what I pumpin'
But its wrong to keeping someone from learning something
So get up, its time to start nation building
I'm fed up, we gotta start teaching childern
That they can be all that they wanna to be
There's much more to life than just poverty
This is defaintly ahhh words of wisdom
AMERIKA, AMERIKA, AMERIKKKA
I charge you with the crime of rape, murder, and a*sault
For suppressing and punishing my people
I charge you with robery for robbing me of my history
I charge you with false imprisonment for keeping me
Trapped in the projects
And the jury finds you guilty on all accounts
And you are to serve the consequences of your evil schemes
Prosecutor do you have any more evidience
Words of Wisdom
They shine upon the strength of an nation
Conquer the enemy on with education
Protect thy self, reach with what you wanna do
Know thy self, teach what we been through
On with the knowledge of the place, then
No one will ever oppress this race again
No Malcolm X in my history text
Why is that?
Cause he tried to educate and liberate all blacks
Why is Martin Luther King in my book each week?
He told blacks, if they get smacked, turn the other cheek
I don't get it, so many questions went through my mind
I get sweated, They act as if asking questions is a crime
But forget it, one day I'm gonna prove them wrong
Now every brother had to smother on the welfare line
The american dream, though it seems it attainable
They're pulling your sleave, don't believe
Cause it will strangle yah
Pulling the life of your brain, I can't explain
Beg as you can obtain from which you came
Swear that your mother is living in equality
Forgeting your brother that's living her apology
Thought they had us beat when they took our kids
But the battle ain't over till the black man sings
Words of Wisdom
But the battle ain't over till the black man sings
Words of Wisdom
NIGHTMARE thats what I am
America's nightmare
I am what you made me
The hate and evil that you gave me
I shine of a reminder of what you have done to my people
for Four hundred plus years
You should be scared
You should be running
You should be trying to silence me
ha ha
But you can not escape fate
Well it is my turn to come
Just as you rose you shall fall
By my hands
Amerika, You reap what you sow
2pacalypse America's Nightmare
Ice Cube and Da Lench Mob America's Nightmare
Above the Law America's Nightmare
Paris America's Nightmare
Public Enemy America's Nightmare
Krs-One America's Nightmare
Mutulu Shakur America's Nightmare
Geronimo Pratt America's Nightmare
a*sada Shakur America's Nightmare |
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to be honest if you look at previous tapes, tupac put biggie on, tupac introduced biggie. Biggie also stole tupacs style, that's why tupac changed his and that's when it became biggie vs PAC.
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What BIGSWOLE failed to say is that that article is FROM THE 90S. Do they teach Pac NOW? NO! Nobody is sayin Pac was booty, thats crazy were just sayin HE COULDNT SEE BIG LYRICALLY AND HE SHOWLL COULDNT SEE RAKIM. Why EVERYTIME he Rapped with Big, Big SHOWED who had the heat. Again, Pac was a legend, He made PERFECT songs but Miss me wit a curveball with that THUG sh*t, Pac wadnt no thug, He was always dry snitchin sayin Big shot him my question is WHY DIDNT HE DO NUTTIN? NUFF SAID. Big was PAID while he was alive, Pac died broke. He sold more albums dead than alive, whats that tell ya? It tells me Big was right when he said, YOUR NOBODY, TILL SOMEBODY KILLS YOU.
http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=__88v-dZCWw
http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=_oD_ce7_cpo&feature=related
http://tw.youtube.com/watch?v=l5KqJKgo9x0&NR=1
BIG 4LIFE!!
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I remember Rakim being praised by a Congresswomen
on Arsenio Hall back in the early 90's for his cut, Casualties of War, KRS One and Chuck D from Public Enemy have been doing seminars at public and private colleges and universities since the 90's and their lyrics are also discussed in a college course. I took that class so I know. |
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Look I'm not going to write a whole NOVEL like that dude on steroids did a few posts up. I'm just going to say that Pac was a decent rapper. And he dropped a few songs I keep on my ipod. BUT he was a hypocrite too. He'd rap about lifting his people and loving the Black woman then disrespect them in his personal life and made a spectacle of himself. And the way he put Faith and Big on blast was disgusting. Even if he did hasve sex with her that was something that should have been dealt with personally. I never liked him but I am sorry he was murdered. |
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Two things I hate about this site, that annoying lady who offers a free nintendo wii and Brooklyn Latina. Neither have a place on this site! |
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homomebad,
You a straight fraudulent ass, pu$$y nicca, fukk boy. You hop yo broke, homo ass on a Pac thread, sucking Biggie's dik all damn day and I'm the one nut hugging? Fukk outta here nicca. I come to this
sh!t you here talking dat bullshyt, I go to work, yes mufucka work, come back on this bytch and
yo ass still up talking out ya ass, I go to sleep come back and you still pole jocking the [EXPLETIVE]. Got damn nicca! All day [EXPLETIVE]? Now you a g'd up hustling ass, e-banging cRip? Nicca how da fukk you sound? This is a damn blog mufukka,cream puff ass nicca. I ain't even gonna argue anymore with your broke, unemployed ass. Probably livin at home with ya moms and scared to go outside on your own damn block, but you go extra hard on the net though, huh? Funny sh!t! |
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PEACE,FROM THE BAY!
PAC'S CAREER=STELLAR
"7 DAY THOERY" & "GRID'LOCKED"=MASTERPIECES
SEEKING GROOVY WAVES OF SOUND,
COME VIBE(YOU TOO);
KIN CAMELL@IMEEM.COM
KIN CAMELL(GOOGLE THAT)
MYSPACE.COM/KINSNSPACE
PEACE |
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The human race is hypocritical.....what are you talking about? Your bible is hypocritical. You knew this about him because he was honest about his life, that's a rare find, other people lie about it. |
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AMERICA IS DESTINED TO FALL....THIS COUNTRY IS BASED ON LIES AND YOU GUYS ARE FOLLOWERS, IT'S TIME WILL COME. |
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Everyone had their time to shine, but it's funny how people are still into this dude after 12 years since his death, don't hate this man respect him. He was a human being with flaws like you and I, he even said that...if you would pay attention to his lyrics and stop jumping to conclusions, then you would understand. He was a light that shined brighter than the others, don't get mad. He was only 25 years old, I'm sure things would have changed ,damn it was the 90's. |
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I agree with Blender, but
"overrated" sounds harsh.
Pac became a "thug" through the media. And the media painted him as such to make him look bad, but it only made him better in the eyes of those in the hood. I can't compare Pac and Big.
As a youngster, I sided with Biggie, cause I'm a native New Yorker. But today I give Tupac credit for having other talents- acting and of course poetry.
Both those dudes spoke on violence or degrading women; but Tupac have more of his share of touching songs.
Whose the best rapper ever? I can't really say, they all make slick comments about women, but mostly women who don't even respect themselves. I have lots of Cam'ron songs on my iPod, and that dude is a total azzhole in terms of women. Does that make Cam'ron the best cause I have his songs? Cause I actually baught Purple Haze and not the bootleg?
I think the rappers of the early 80's were great because they didn't talk all that, "I'll pop a nicca" or "My squad bust gats" or "I nut in a h0 face" or "I'm blood, I'm crip."
So I might have to give Nas credit, he doesn't have that "thug/gang affiliated" thing Tupac had, isn't a "drug dealer" like Jay-Z, nor talking slick about women as much as Big did.
But I've never bought any of Nas's albums, and I have more Jay-Z songs on my iPod. I guess I just feel like dancing more than thinking??? |
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I don't like the personal lives of these rappers, like someone said above. He is right about bringing up Faith Evans. But is your married ass sleeps with his well-known musical rival, your wrong. Yes, Big was a slut, but now she made herself one, too. I actually believe Ray-J useless ass. Why would he make that rumor about Faith and Pac?
I hate I what I heard about Nas in "Carmen's" book, how could he marry Kelis and still creep with his ex? How could he cheat on Carmen while he was with her, too? But Carmen decided to cheat back...with like 2 (or maybe more) dudes. Gee, real classy move. And Jay was wrong for even coming at her, what a dog! |
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tupac the greatest that ever did it he had everything whether it was conscious,poetic, street, clubs, or black empowerment he rapped about everything he was very versitile as far as people saying biggie the best hell no biggie was fire but pac covered all basics and then some extra as far his lyrics and messages in his music he was never one deminsional |
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Most People that Say Biggie was better the Pac are on the East Coast mainly in New York some repping for Biggie cause of his Island blood. And they can't even name 6 songs of Pacs not in the mainstream. Most the East coast specially NY hate Pac cause they feel he turned his back on them. Na Pac felt the East coast did him grimmey specially when he got locked up not snitchin on them and was set up by puff and Biggie (yes they did set him up but for a azz whoppin not to be shot and almost killed). look at the beef splitting Junior Mafia .....cause they all grimmey to each other. I was straight East coast fan and refused to listen to pac and finally did when my cuzzins made me seeing they was driving and I wasn't and when I heard him, radio played and non radio played songs, it was clear he was better thrn biggie. NY and Half the East on Biggies dick just cause he east bet if he was west or left like pac did they be saying wat they saying out pac about biggie. The West coast East coast thing started cause NY hated on anything different from NY Rap. And Blennder? My first time hearing of this Magazine |
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Pac was a realist.
A rebel.
One of those niggs. you couldn't tell shyt.
BEST RAPPER/POET/EDUCATOR in the world. period. point. blank. NOBODY else matters.
Smart man knew politics, the streets...everything...
"envious because i will rebel against any oppressor and this is known as self defense" -tupac "tupac violent" go listen. |
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LMAO at dumb N1ggers claiming Tupac as the best rapper or the greatest rapper.....HA HA HA. How can that be when Pac's Favorite rapper of all time was RAKIM
The best/greatest Rapper or MC is the GOD (RAKIM)
You Young Mother [EXPLETIVE] don't know sh1t about Hip Hop.
put this in your search engine
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BZ-rEpM6OhQ&feature=related
To learn what real Lyrics are about. GOAT...RAKIM
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BLENDER NEEDS TO GO OUT OF BUSINESS SAYING SAYING SUCH NONSENSE!! TUPAC WAS AND WILL ALWAYS BE THE GREATEST RAPPER OF ALL F&&KIN TIME[SPAM]!!!!! |
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2PAC WILL ALWAYS BE THE BEST RAPPER NO MATTER WHAT THE HATERS SAY..[EXPLETIVE] THAT!!!!! THUG LIFE BABY!!!!! |
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I AGREE ABOUT PAC BEING THE MOST VERSATILE, PROFOUND, PROLIFIC AND TALENTED ARTIST EVER..NO ONE WILL BE ABLE TO TOUCH HIM..PERIOD!!!! |
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I DIDN'T EVEN BOTHER TO READ THE ARTICLE, 2 PAC "OVERRATED" PLEASE, I MEAN COME ON YALL I WOULDN'T BOTHER TO GET MAD, I CAN SEE IF VIBE , SOURCE OR XXL SAID THIS [EXPLETIVE], BLENDER WHO THE [EXPLETIVE] EVEN READS THAT [EXPLETIVE]. NOT THE BROTHER MAN BUT THE OTHER MAN, SO DON'T EVEN SWEAT IT YALL. WE KNOW WHAT IT IS. |
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BIGGIE THE ILLEST |
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UUUHHHH TUPAC WAS NOT THE REALEST OR GREATEST...THE GREATEST DOES NOT..DO DUMB SHHIITT TO GET HIS SELF KILLED...TUPAC WAS NOT A GOOD ROLE MODEL AT ALL....HE WAS ALWAYS CURSING AND TALKIND ABOUT WHAT HE GONNA DO TO FUKK SOMEBODY UP...HE WAS ALWAYS SMOKING WEED AND DRINKING WHICH LATER FUKKED HIS MIND UP AND MADE HIM THE NEGATIVE PERSON THAT HE WAS...IT WAS ALWAYS ABOUT DUMB GANGSTA SHIIITT....SOME ONE SHOULD HAVE TAUGHT HIM THAT WAR ISNT THE ANSWER.....TUPAC WAS SHOT SO MANY TIMES AND GOD WAS GIVING HIM SO MANY CHANCES TO DO RIGHT...BUT HE WAS SO FOOLISH TO BE SO DOWN WITH THAT GANSTA SHIIITT AND GANGSTA TALK THAT EVENTUALLY GOT HIM KILLED.....SO NO HE WAS NOT REAL NOR WAS HE THE GREATEST...I WOULD TELL WHAT KIND OF GUY HE WAS WHITCH IS SAD BUT WITH HIM BEING DEAD I WOULD RATHER NOT SAY...BUT MAY YOU REST IN PEACE TUPAC |
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BUT I WILL SAY AND HONOR TUPAC FOR BEING DOWN AND HOLDING IT DOWN FOR HIS OWN KIND...IN HIS WORLD....HE WAS REAL ABOUT THAT |
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I agree Tupac is overated. I think most people put him on high regards because he is dead and the controversy surrounding him. Tupac was an average rapper. he was not even in the top 10 of great MC.
Tupac is a good poet, but as far as Hip Hop is concerned he can't touch the top MC's.
1) Rakim
2) KRs-1
3) Kool G Rap
4) BIG
5) NAS
6) Jay-z
7) Slick Rick
8) ICE CUBE
9) Scarface
10) LL cool J.
Tupac was an actor. all the gimmicks he did when he was with death row was just to sell records and please suge. He wanted to get out of that but suge didn't want to let him go because he was a cash cow.
I agree with fiftynine,, tupac had opportunities to clean his life up and change but he let that N1gger Nonsense consume him.
Don't get me wrong Tupac had many classic hits and have powerful songs, but in no way does that make him the greatest.
If Tupac was hear today he would tell you that himself and just like TheBestEver said Tupac said his favorite rapper of all time was RAKIM. so there you have it.
Rakim was all the greatest rappers favorite rapper. so how can they be better that him.
That's like Kobe saying he is better than Mike when mike is his favorite basketball player. That's like Jesus saying he is Better than God. |
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over rated or not...I love me some Tupac!!! |
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Tupac is the best to ever do it!!!....Think?...They study his lyrics in colleges. They have devoted a whole class course in his name. What other artist has acheived such a fame, not for his image but for his work!!! Biggie is Great none the less, but he wasn't no Tupac. Lil wayne.....No comment!!! |
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Im not Puttin Pac over Rakim and KRS just Biggie
Last point I listen to all Music (lyrics and Composition)...where most Blacks only listent to1-3 diffret kinds of music only able to name their favorite songs/radio played songs. No History lessons needed here unless its some New New school lol |
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@fiftynine and Killwhitey
Hmm, I think that God is overrated and he is definetly no icon, because if God controls everything then he responsible for all the bad things in the world: Poverty, hunger, nautral disasters, suffering, etc. That makes a very bad icon.
What Tupac did was basically try and show people that we're all in the struggle together: the struggle to make good lives for ourselves and solve the problems that we face.
Of course many of his songs are regarding 'thug life', but a song is bascically a story, and all stories have a moral at the end; not an immoral...
He tried to teach us that the way we are living is detrimental. Through his various art forms: poetry, songs, films, etc: he tried to raise awareness and give hope to disillusioned people.
Simply put he was a leader, and a great leader at that.
All the people on that list, none of them were leaders, they were just icons that wanted to be famous and have people follow them. Tupac wanted to lead people to the truth, and he did that to a degree. Unfortunately he is dead. |
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I know everyone has an opinion, so I will keep this short, because by no means am I saying you shouldn't speak your mind and what you believe in, but there are two sides to ever story.
As in actor Tupac was young and upcoming, we never got to see what he was capable of. I am not saying he was or would have been the greatest actor of all time. We really didn't get to see him play many roles. To say he didn't have potential would be wrong. He went to the Baltimore School for the Arts where he studied acting, dance, and music. I think he could have been a pretty good actor in the right roles.
he had many followers and many stories, and could have written his own little Bible as he worked his way through life. Not that he is actually Jesus Christ.
Tupac is by far the greatest leader of my lifetime. He did a lot for people, black and white. He spoke only the truth, the realest guy ever. I got a video for you to watch on YouTube, you will see how real and passionate he is. He is the reason rap is no longer about beef and fighting, and only about talking about money and girls. He is the one who got the Bloods and Crips to call a trust in the 90's. His Mother was a Black Panther who got thrown in jail while she was pregnant with him. Don't tell me he wasn't a leader, to quote him he may not have changed the world, but he will spark the seed that will change the world.
Here is the clip I was talking about, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ex4PtkmLvgo it is from a Malcolm X dinner, so if you’re not a leader why would you get to speak at a rally of one of the greatest leaders of all time. Just to put it out there I am a white male, and I feel strongly about Tupac, all he did, stood for, and achieved. |
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I guess you would have to be intelligent to understand where he was coming from..... |
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As Tupac says in the movie, some people will hear his lyrics and want to emulate the gangsta lifestyle but someone living in that world will hear it and know that Tupac understands how it feels to live in that world (hopeless) and Tupac was implying, I think, that the second person might get hope from that--paradoxically. He seemed unwilling to judge the first person, but it's the second type of listener that he wanted to reach.
Not to get too sociological, but there's a phenomenon whereby people who are on the outside create an inside language so they can be on the inside and make the establishment be on the outside for a change. Rappers aren't the only ones who do this, but an example is Tupac's idea of "Thug Life." He redefined the word "thug" to mean something other than what everyone else means by it. Then he wondered why he had to keep explaining it. Some of his fans probably don't get it still. He explains it in the movie, but it's a big challenge he set up for himself. Tupac's new meaning of thug is really tricky for two reasons: 1) By his definition, a "thug" might not be a traditional thug, but it's a person who lives in a world where a lot of things are determined by traditional thugs. A Tupac "thug" seems to be a person whose life is a reaction to a world of thugs, adapting to them, trying to get along with them, trying to get them to get along with their community. 2) A lot of what Tupac did may have been in reaction to traditional thugs, but when he was being a vigilante or whatever he was doing--beating up somebody on camera in a Las Vegas casino--it is hard for John Q. Citizen or John Law to see him as different from the real gangsters.
The analogy that comes to mind is Lenny Bruce's comic routine about how "*beep* you" shouldn't be an insult because it relates to pleasure, so you should say it as a term of affection. A lot of people didn't get it and saw the routine as just another example of how smutty he was, but those who got it realized that we use language to inflict pain with words that could just as easily be used to express the opposite. In a sense, Bruce was doing the same kind of thing as Tupac. But Bruce didn't try to go around saying "f.u." to everybody, so that when they got mad he could say, "Oh, but it means the opposite of what you think." He knew that most of the world would never get that. Tupac had two sides, as the movie points out, the idealist who thought that if he kept at it, people would understand him, and the angry young man who said screw them if they don't get it. |
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and one last thing Tupac was not killed by regular humans beings, it was bigger than that...that's what the media and others want you to believe, but it was much deeper. Biggie died so you can believe it was a east coast west coast thing,...government, agents etc whoever killed Pac, but in order for it to look like it was circled around beef biggie was killed to prove that. |
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I know everyone has an opinion, so I will keep this short, because by no means am I saying you shouldn't speak your mind and what you believe in, but there are two sides to ever story.
As in actor Tupac was young and upcoming, we never got to see what he was capable of. I am not saying he was or would have been the greatest actor of all time. We really didn't get to see him play many roles. To say he didn't have potential would be wrong. He went to the Baltimore School for the Arts where he studied acting, dance, and music. I think he could have been a pretty good actor in the right roles.
he had many followers and many stories, and could have written his own little Bible as he worked his way through life. Not that he is actually Jesus Christ.
Tupac is by far the greatest leader of my lifetime. He did a lot for people, black and white. He spoke only the truth, the realest guy ever. I got a video for you to watch on YouTube, you will see how real and passionate he is. He is the reason rap is no longer about beef and fighting, and only about talking about money and girls. He is the one who got the Bloods and Crips to call a trust in the 90's. His Mother was a Black Panther who got thrown in jail while she was pregnant with him. Don't tell me he wasn't a leader, to quote him he may not have changed the world, but he will spark the seed that will change the world.
Here is the clip I was talking about, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ex4PtkmLvgo it is from a Malcolm X dinner, so if you’re not a leader why would you get to speak at a rally of one of the greatest leaders of all time. Just to put it out there I am a female, and I feel strongly about Tupac, all he did, stood for, and achieved. SORRY the first one was a typo...my brain is overflowing |
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[EXPLETIVE] blender magazine!!!!! he was [EXPLETIVE] jada before will was... jada admitted how her n pac used to sit back burning it , talkin bout how lame will was on the fresh prince, but ohhhhh!!!funny how the tables turn..... |
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@COBonnerlife, if you understood life then you would know that life is hypocritcal. Your bible is hypocritical. |
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