: On June 5th, 2007 MediaTakeOut.com reported on a Complex magazine interview where Rihanna admitted to having violent fights with her brother.
Here's an excerpt of that interview. Given the recent charges against Chris Brown, it's worth a re-read:
COMPLEX:Did you see 300? Rihanna:: 300 is one of the best movies I have ever seen. The choreography, the fighting, the costumes, the production—phenomenal. I make everybody watch it.COMPLEX:So you didn’t think it was too violent. Rihanna::Oh, not at all. That was the good part. I’m the oldest child with two brothers. We talk all the time now, but we used to fight—and when I say “fight,” I don’t mean arguments, I mean physically fight.
COMPLEX: Who won? Rihanna::I hit the older one in his face with a glass bottle.
COMPLEX: Whoa. Remind me not to piss you off. Rihanna::Yeah, my mom was pretty upset.
I don't think Chris brown would ever raise his hand to a woman unless she put herself in the place of a man, and on a basis of what i've heard Rihanna deserved to get smacked in the face atleast one good time. If you don't wanna get treated like a man, stop acting like one. It's all speculation, but i just dont think chris is that kinda man.
SEE I KNEW IT! RHIANNA THAT TYPE OF CHICK. FELLAS YALL KNOW YOU HAVE SEEN OR DEALT WITH ONE AND WOMEN YALL KNOW YOU ALL GOT OR KNOW A GIRL LIKE THIS.
THE TYPE THAT IS A LOUDMOUTH WHO DONT KNOW HOW TO LET STUFF GO AND WILL ALWAYS PUSH AND ARGUMENT OVER AND OVER EVEN AFTER A DUDE IS ALL SET. THEN GO FROM ARGUING TO INSULTING AND DISRESPECTING A MAN TALK ABOUT HIS MAMA, MANHOOD ANYTHING TO SET HIM OFF. THEN WHEN ALL THAT DONT GET A DUDE VEX THEY WANT TO RUN UP IN A MANS FACE AND SLAP AND HIT HIM.
I BELIEVE THAT RHIANNA IS THAT TYPE OF CHICK AND CHICKS LIKE THAT NEED THEIR ASS BEAT. PLAIN AND SIMPLE. I WOULD NEVER ATTACK A WOMAN, BUT IF A WOMAN WANTS TO ATTACK ME I'M GONNA REGULATE AND BUT HER ATTACK DOWN REAL QUICK. ANYONE WHO STANDS THERE AND LETS THEMSELVES GET BEAT IS A *PUNK*
I KNOW CHRIS BEAT HER, BUT LOOKING AT HOW SHE ACT I BELIEVE HE DID IT BECAUSE HE HAD TO. BITTTTCH PUSHED HIM UNTIL HE DID IT.
MTO...U guys are Motha [EXPLETIVE].........What did her brother do to her to cause her to do what she did to him...Why don't you post that shyt to MTO wicked Motha phuckers!!!
I do not care what she did or did not do, I don't care if she gave him herpes or did not give him herpes, i don't care if she told him go [EXPLETIVE] him mamma it does NOT give him the right to beat her the way he did!...A REAL man walk away not raise his hand to his woman!
You guys talk about West Indian women and jealousy...however, West Indian women are not know to be psycho jealous women...That is all with you (you know yourselves)
whatwhatwhat Flag post This is a non story. It looks like Chris Brown's PR people are going to work trashing Rhianna. I think we're going to see a lot of stories about Rhianna's temper. But it don't change the fact that Chris Breezy whooped her ass like he was Mike Tyson.
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Now I'm hearing about bite marks on her thigh?! I don't know if it's true or not, but this wasn't your ordinary scuffle...
even if she swung first no man should hit a woman, if its like that why stay with her. he is bigger and most likely stronger than her and it was a bitch move to put his hands on her. Leaving her alone would of hurt worse, but beating her just hurts him. He is from my state VA, first mike vick, then p.Burgs now chris!!! dump asses!!! His ass is done.....
YOU LOT ARE CRAZY FOR POSTING THIS DARN INFORMATION......You decided to just take abstract parts from this old ass interview. This is when they were kids do not use this to justify chris browns behaviour unless u were paid off. They are trying and off course hes lawyers / record label will try to protect his image as far as his career. Regardless they are ways of communicating without a man hitting. Which young girl who had brothers didnt fight with each other darn i done worse ish but know to my bf not to bush that boundary unless he smacked me 1st. Dont get like other sites search for the truth or wait rather than do tacky stuff, do not damage her image either.
YALL WOMEN FULL OF SHIIIT, THINKING THAT A MAN IS A PUNCHING BAG THAT YOU ALL CAN BEAT ON AND THAT HE AINT SUPPOSED TO DO NOTHING BACK. YOU DONT WANT TO GET HIT, DONT HIT SOMEBODY FIRST. YOU HIT, YOU GET HIT BACK. ITS THAT SIMPLE. AINT IT JUST AS WRONG FOR HIM TO HIT HER? YALL ALWAYS WANT TO MAKE EXCUSES FOR THESE CRAZY ASS WOMEN AND MAKE MEN OUT TO BE THE VILLAN
She is not crazy i feel sorry for you women saying that check yr selfs in the mirror b4 a man brakes yr ass. WHY IS IT SO HARD TO BELIEVE HE SMACKED THE ISH OUT OF HER HE DID IT . IF I HAD KIDS AND I BOUGHT HES ALBUM FOR THEM I WILL NEVER WASTE MY MONEY AGAIN, tHATS WHY HE WILL BE PROTECTED. DISRESPECT AND WOMEN THAT SUPPORT THIS U R LOSERS I KNOW MEN THAT DONT EVEN SUPPORT THIS. FU*KERS
So did she get herpes from T.I and give it to chris? Thats the only reason I can think of that can justify this!!!!!!!! I saw pics on tmz of them at clive davis' party that night and in the car 30min before the fight and the whole time he had a salty look on his face like his world just ended.... Hummmmmmmm
WHY IS IT THAT WOMEN CAN HIT MEN BUT MEN CAN'T HIT BACK.... MEN ARE IN ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIPS JUST LIKE WOMEN ARE.
IF YOU ARE WOMAN ENOUGH TO HIT A MAN, THEN YOU ARE WOMAN ENOUGH TO GET HIT BACK.
NOT SAYING THAT IT IS RIGHT, BUT IF SHE HIT HIM THEN HE TOO SHOULD BE HAVING CHARGES PRESSED AGAINST HER.
This is a non story. It looks like Chris Brown's PR people are going to work trashing Rhianna. I think we're going to see a lot of stories about Rhianna's temper. - - - - LOL Yeah no doubt
@Topic Wow hit your brother in the face with a glass bottle huh? Silly chick probably giggled when she said it too.
I am extremely disappointed with the justification of hitting a woman. A man hits 10 times harder than a woman. The fact that she was heard screaming to alarm the neighbors and had to spend 2 days at the hospital says a lot. If this was your daughter I guarantee your comment would take a different tone.
it takes a man with a broken heart to hurt a woman he loves that if he did love her. one of the comment i read on this page said that he grew up seing someone close to him being abused, this might i had an affect on him now that his grown up his got the metality of an abuser. well on the other hand, she might have done something wrong or in many cases abused him aswell and this pushed him to put his hands on her. i know it is very wrong for a man to hit a girl but sometime girls go too far.
To be honest I am glad that someone is finally presenting this side of the story. Rihanna has a HISTORY of violent fights with men in her life, and this isn't the first one. She has a history of domestic violence in her life as well as Chris.
I'm not condoning what Chris did (And these reports of he beat her to a pulp are LIES). But I am saying, one has to ask one's self...if she would take a GLASS BOTTLE...A GLASS BOTTLE...to her own brother's face...and he STILL has the scare if you look at pictures of Rorry, then what else could she do when angry. If you would smash a glass bottle in the face of your own brother, Lord only knows what you would to do your man.
I'm not condoning what Chris did, but I am saying, that boy did not just get out of the car, and decide to beat the [EXPLETIVE] out of her. He has treated her like nothing but an angel the whole tiem they've been together. Rihanna has a HISTORY of putting her hands on him when they get into arguments. And that night she may have gone too far. Sure enough we teach young men not to hit on women and that they should never hit on a woman, but understand that a man is only going to stand there and let you beat and attack him for so long before he responds, especially if you attackin a man like you are a man. Something pushed him to put his hands on her, and when he did hit her he probably didn't realize how hard he hit her, because he's so much bigger than hr.
Furthermore, all this bull about he beat her down, he bit her up, he put marks all on her face is NOT PROVEN. It's a bunch of rumors that have been spread on the internet, on blogs, on websites, everywhere, but not one stitch of it has been proven to be true. And thats the main point. The police report says nothing but marks. These "pictures" of horrific injury that the blogs claim to have...they haven't posted them yet. Do they even exist. The fact is that this whole story has been blown up to paint Chris as a woman beating monster...but nobody has sat down to ask, could he have been provoked by a woman who has admitted she smashed hr brother in the face with a glass bottle.
Now I'm not saying he's right. I'm not saying what he did was validated. I'm not saying he should be excused. I am however saying, that there are some women out there who believe they can jump in a man's face and attack him and beat on him and scratch him and hit him with objects...and he's just supposed to stand there and take it. And even though a man can be raised never to hit a woman, there does come a breaking point. People only have so much self-control. And a man is only gonna let a woman beat on him for so long before that old rule goes out the window and he has to defend himself.
As a woman, I myself have been guilty of jumpin in dude's faces and attacking them and scratching them and smacking them...and thinking "oh i can do this and he BET not hit me back" or "he won't hit me back cuz I'm a woman". Is THAT right? Should it be acceptable for a woman to beat up on a man, and he just stand there and take it all the time.
Who knows WHAT Rihanna did that night. There's a reason she ain't cooperating with the police fully. She may have picked up a blade, she may have had an object, she may have gone bezerk and he was FORCED to respond defensively, and went to far because he's so much bigger than her.
But instead of seeing it from that way, blogs and media are painting him out to be Ike Turner. And I don't like that. Because both Rihanna and Chris come from broken home families where domestic violence was present. And both Rihanna and Chris have volatile personalities. And Rihanna has admitted multiple times that she gets physical in fights. Her dancers have admitted she has attacked him in the past on tour.
I'm not condoning what he did. But I am saying, try to see the story from BOTH sides instead of believe the exaggerations that have been so far UNPROVEN.
Chris did not beat her to a pulp. Go and look up the LAPD crime report and the charge sheet. NOWHERE does it say he beat her to a pulp. These are lies created by the media.
Should he be punished. SURE! But do not believe this man just decided one day, after being with her for two years damn near, to just attack her out of nowhere. Something led to this. There was provocation.
And I know plenty of women who jump at dudes like they ARE a dude, and expect nothing is going to happen. But you can't try and beat the hell out of dude and think he will just stand there. Because sometimes you might meet the WRONG dude, or it might be the WRONG night, and you get beat in the head. Does it make the dude right, NO! BUT YOU WERE NO MORE RIGHT FOR ATTACKING HIM IN THE FIRST PLACE!
This whole thing is sad, and I'm hoping it can be resolved properly.
i feel for the both of them...domestic violence against young people is on the rise...
none of us knows what really happened, so i can't make any assumptions...but noone deserves to be beaten on...
both of them were wrong...and if she started hitting him first, she assaulted him as well and it needs to be dealt with by the law.
i don't understand why women think it's okay to hit a man...you hit the wrong one and it ain't gonna end pretty...
oh big damn deal! in america, yall fight with guns. in the caribbean, kids fight like ultimate fighters... brutally and in addition, with any weapon within reach. get the f'uck over it. it's a different culture.
ask that bitch clara. that's why ima caribbean her ass to pieces at the mto meet n greet.
CLILSHORTIE Flag post WHY IS IT THAT WOMEN CAN HIT MEN BUT MEN CAN'T HIT BACK.... MEN ARE IN ABUSIVE RELATIONSHIPS JUST LIKE WOMEN ARE.
IF YOU ARE WOMAN ENOUGH TO HIT A MAN, THEN YOU ARE WOMAN ENOUGH TO GET HIT BACK.
- - - - - You're damned of you do and you're damned if you don't.Women want equality but not when it comes to an old fashion slug fest....keep in mind however if the dudes get his ass kicked, it's all laughs and tee hee hee..no remorse. I still remember that "good samaritan black dude" trying to break up two chicks fighting in the club ( posted on MTO a little while back )...and one of the broads lost her wig during the scrap.Remember a bunch of Island chicks yelling, "leave them... leave them" while pulling the dude out of the way, so that the two "ladies" could continue fighting in the club?Straight up savages! I personally think the hormones in the foods are F'ing with some of these chick's testosterone levels, cause shyt is getting out of hand.If you wanna brawl like a dude and forget you're a lady, well then some dudes will knock you back into reality.
If Rihanna had a history of being violent with Chris Brown why didn't their parents, managers, publicist etc. intervened? What if on Sunday morning when the incident occurred someone had gotten killed? Then what? All these different theories as to what happened. You all are trashing the girl without having all the facts. No woman deserves to be hit by a man. I don't care if she provoked it. No Judges, Lawyer or Jury will agree. Read the white blogs. Chris Brown's career is over. Only to dumb niccas are condoning his behavior. Shame on you.
ok, so why do we females think that it is alright to hit a man, if we don't want our asses whipped in return? I personally know some ladies who feel that because a man wont hit them back, they can act a fool and do all sorts of stuff to them. well, i don't think that is fair. a man, just like a woman has every right to defend himself, so ladies, if you don't wanna get jacked up, keep your hands to yourself!!! a person can only take but so much before they go offon you!
West Indian women aggressively do hold tempers and are very jealous individuals. Ms Fenty who is known as Rhianna explicitly showcased her masculinity in this relationship. I do think however that Chris Brown knowing how violent the relationship was, should have walked away and allow the law to handle such a situation. Do i think he is a victim no and do i think Rhianna is a victim no, i think both of them are immature and do not know how to love or treat each other as humans. I know being in this industry is tuff but sometimes we need to learn to walk away from situations that can create and cause flaws and pain in our lives. My advice for both individulas is to come to terms that the relationship is over, move on and learn from such a tragic event which they have incountered within 2009.
I can't believe people are using the "I have fights with my siblings all the time" [EXPLETIVE] as an excuse.
This is not a fight honey. SHE PICKED UP A GLASS BOTTLE AND SMASHED HIM IN THE FACE WITH IT. Rorrey still has the SCAR on the side of his face. And this isn't the only time she's admitted to picking up things and hitting people with them when they were in a fight.
I can't believe people use that as an excuse. I have brothers. And I ain't never not once not never not ONCE picked up no damn glass bottle and hit my brothers in they damn head. I have three big brothers and two younger brothers. I wouldn't pick up a glass bottle against my OLDER brothers. And I CERTAINLY wouldn't pick one up against my BABY BROTHERS! Come on now. How that sound? Don't give me that "sibling rivalry" bull. NO! That is a history of violence. Siblings don't smash each other in the face with glass bottles. This is ridiculous.
The whole "any man that hits a woman is a monster" concept in America is blinding people to the fact that his response may have been self-defense. If she will smash her flesh and blood in the face with a bottle, who knows what she would do to her man.
And as other commenters have said, there are FAR TOO MANY WOMEN who believe they can jump on men and beat them up and attack them, and sit there and say "he better not hit me back because I'm a woman". That's bullshit. As a woman myself I have done that in the past. And in hindsight I said to myself, it is not right for me to attack a man and expect him to not to hit me back, just because I'm a woman.
What if a woman picks up a metal pole off the ground and runs at the man and attacks him. He's just supposed to stand there? Because she's a woman and he's a man. So he just stands there while she beats him with the metal pole. So now he either ends up dead or with blunt trauma injuries, because he's not supposed to hit a woman back. Is THAT right? No! It's just as wrong. Who is to say WHAT Rihanna did to him that night. She could have picked up something off the street. She could have had something in her hand. She could have been attacking him with an object THE SAME WAY she attacked her brother. Was he just supposed to stand there. Now if he had just stood there and ended up in the hospital because she smashed a bottle upside his head...I guess she would still be the right one. That's such a perverted and twisted paradigm. And there's no justification for it.
Furthermore, nobody has addressed whether Chris has injuries. When he went to the cops and when he left, he had his face and body covered up with a huge hoody, and was hiding his face from the cameras, crouched down in the seat. For all we know, he could have injuries too that would explain WHY he did it.
Furhtermore, as I said earlier, these reports of "He beat her to a pulp" are a crock of [EXPLETIVE]. If he had beat her to a pulp he would still be in jail. This is all media sensationalism. The LAPD, nor Rihanna's camp, nor ANYONE OFFICIAL has made a statement on her injuries. The ONLY people talking about her injuries are those OTHER big blog sites who are KNOWN for making [EXPLETIVE] up. However Rihanna's GRANDMOTHER CIARA BRAITEWORTH gave an interview in Barbados DENYING that Rihanna had a broken jaw or horrific injuries. Look it up. So get your facts straight. Rihanna didn't get beat up. Rihanna got some small facial injuries.
But could it be that Chris was provoked to a response.
Again, don't hear my words and think I'm CONDONING what he did. I have NO RESPECT FOR BASTARD MEN WHO PUT THEIR HANDS ON WOMEN!!! HOWEVER!!!, I do not believe that a man should just stand there when being attacked by a woman. If it's a simple slap, or a scratch, hell even a punch...then yea he should stand there. But if a chick goes BEZERK on a man and tries to attack him to cause him physical harm, he SHOULD be allowed to defend himself. And Rihanna has admitted to smashing people in the faces with stuff. Who knows whether or not she was "breaking dishes" that night.
Lets not paint him to be a monster or her to be a victim until we know the whole story.
LOL Texas. OK?! And I know most of them get/give regular ass whoopings.
I don't condone it, but really it doesnt take a genius to realize that it's wrong. So hopefully, if it's true, they'll quit each other or get some help.
But digging up childhood stuff is dumb. She's from a different culture where everything might seem strange! Like, in most islands, domestic violence is really not a big deal!!! Imagine that.
You know what... after reading these comments I felt compelled to sign up-login and say IF SHES BOLD ENOUGH TO HIT A MAN LIKE A MAN, SHE NEEDS TO BE READY FOR THE CONSEQUENCES. You people need to quit making excuses for violent people period. I have 2 brothers and we would fight- I fought them and they fight me. If some chick hurt either of my brothers to a point to where she knew better, I couldn't say much if he mollywhopped her one good time in the name of SELF DEFENSE. BTW Chris Brown is a boy (he can be tried as a man), he wishes he were a man/grown but that lil boy is a child and she is too. I just think they were 2 immature kids that didn't think they would have legal repercussions for their immaturity. The end.
If that was your brother and sum chick gave him something like herpes or crabs , you still wouldWhatitdo cutie?how u doin? I'm here in Boston jones'n ova ya sexiness tell him to fall back from gttn at her physically? Let's forget its Chris and Rhi for a moment... someone was being promiscuous here.... no more Wrigley's commercial for dude...
DUMB ASS BLACK PEOPLE
THIS STORY HAS CHANGED MORE THE 15 TIMES IN THE LAST 72 HOURS...
NO ONE HAS THE REAL STORY....ALL THESE MEDIA OUTLETS ARE MAKING S H I T UP.. AND CLAMING TO BE FIRST WITH THE STORY AND TELLING LIES...
THEN TRYING TO BE FIRST WITH THE STORY AND TELLING LIES.....
THE FACT IS YOU HAVE TWO FAMOUS YOUNG PEOPLE IN LOVE AND FIGHTING NOT TO BE IN LOVE AND DON'T WANT TO SEE EACH OTHER WITH SOMEONE ELSE AND CHRIS NEEDS AND WANTS TO EXPLORE OTHER WOMEN
How the hell would you know what kind of battles people have with their siblings?!? I used to get into a fight with one of my big brothers all the time because he was once the baby til I came along and all was fair in love and war so wtf are you talking about?? I know people that's done worse than smash a sibling in the face with a bottle, how about running them over with a car or trying to drown them?? Have you ever seen the movie "The Good Son"??? Get a grip because it's not that serious, these are just kids and they have to live and learn like everyone else! The problem with some of you is that you put these celebrities on pedestals like they can do no wrong and soon as the sh*t hits the fan your feelings are hurt. They're human and entitled to make mistakes like everyone else, life is about living and learning and they have a long way to go. Stop sitting here trying to make it seem like this girl deserved to get her ass kicked because it's wrong, bottom line, I don't care if she spit in his face he should've walked away...especially since he has so much to lose.
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Thats bullshit. If you're a psycho ass person that decides to hit your sibling in the face with a bottle or run him over with a car, you need mental help. And if you pop off and get your ass whooped later in life, don't blame everyone else. I can't believe you're sitting here trying to use this "i know people who ran their sibling over with a car" as an excuse. What the hell does that matter. Any sicko who runs their sibling over with a car is a nut. Anyone who smashes their sibling in the face with a bottle has anger management, and if it's unchecked it may come back to haunt them later in life.
I'm not condoning what he did, however, she has a history of attacking people and a history of anger management. And he should not have to stand there and get his ass whooped just because she's a woman and he's a man.
You disagree, tough cookie. But it's not going to change. NO MAN should have to stand there and get beaten up by a woman merely because he has a penis and she has a vagina.
If you attack a man like a man, don't be surprised if out of nowhere you get ping-ponged in the head.
There is NO excuse for men who beat women.
There is ALSO no excuse for women who beat men, and expect no repurcussion simply because they have a period.
It does not work that way honey.
@mervin123
I AGREE WELL EXCEPT THE "DUMB ASS BLACK PEOPLE" PART! LOL
BUT LIKE I SAID I CANT WAIT TIL ONE OF THEM COMES OUT AND SPEAKS ON WHAT REALLY HAPPEN TIL THEN! I DONT REALLY BELIEVE ANY OF THESE STORIES! THEY'VE CHANGED TOO MANY TIMES!
HOWEVER! EVEN THOUGH I DID LIKE RIHANNA MUSIC I ALWAYS THOGUTH SHE WAS KINDA RUDE AND DIDNT HAVE A GOOD ATTITUDE SO AT TIMES I DO AGREE WAT SOME FOLKS ARE POSTIN ABOUT HER BUT THE STORY ON WAT HAPPEN! I WONT BELIEVE ANYTHIN UNTIL CHRIS OR RIHANNA SPEAK ON IT
TexasGlamourChic, let me explain this to you one more time honey. Because you CLAIM you're reading what I'm writing, but apparently somewhere in between your eyeballs and your brains the message is getting lost. I'm going to TYPE AS MUCH AS I WANT, and repeat myself as many times as I want. And there's nothing you can do about it. So rambling and poppin off and typing [EXPLETIVE] telling me to shut up ain't gon help you sista. It's really not. Because you don't own this site, and you ain't nobody to me. So spare me. Mm-kay. Thanks.
AwAkE wrote: I DON'T CONDONE WOMEN BEATING, BUT IF SHE ATTACKED HIM HE HAD EVERY RIGHT TO DEFEND HIMSELF. EVERYBODY SO QUICK TO JUMP ON RHIANNA SIDE WITHOUT CONSIDERING THE BYTCH MIGHT BE PSYCHO. I THINK SHE WENT STR8 GLEN CLOSE AND CHRIS HAD TO DO HER.
I SERIOUSLY DOUBT CHRIS JUST JUMPED ON HER AND BRUTALLY BEAT HER. I DON'T TRUST RHIANNA AND SUMTHIN IN THE STORY AIN'T QUITE COMING TOGETHER. I AM ON TEAM CHRIS, IF IT TURNS OUT I AM WRONG I WILL HAPPILY RETRACT MY STATEMENTS AND APOLOGIZE.
I HAPPEN TO THINK RHIANNA WAS JEALOUS OUT OF HER MIND AND STARTED WAILING ON HIM.
I DON'T THINK IT IS THE FIRST TIME IT HAS HAPPENED EITHER. CHRIS PROBABLY GOT TIRED OF HER HITTIN HIM AND SHYT AND FINALLY SNAPPED.
IN WHICH CASE THAT MAN HAD EVERY RIGHT TO DEFEND HIMSELF. I WILL SMACK THE [EXPLETIVE] OUT OF A WOMAN, MAN, CHILD, DOG OR CAT IF I AM BEING ATTACKED. KEEP YA GOTDAYUM HANDS TO YASELF. ACT LIKE A TRICK AND LIKE A TRICK YOU GET DEALT WITH.
REAL TALK.
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I completely agree with you. NO MAN should have to be abused by a woman. There are cases of men being abused by woman all throughout the country, and most times its because the man has that "I can't hit a woman" belief in his head. And that's ok for regular circumstances. But if a woman goes Kill Bill on a dude, don't be surprised if he pops her in the head. Because that's NOT ok.
And like you said, if it turns out that Chris is a psycho woman beater whose imitating what he saw his daddy do...if he comes out that he just went looney and decided to play wack-a-mole with her head, I will be the FIRST to say lock that man up in a prison cell in California, and make sure there's a big 7 foot buff monster mandingo named RUGBURN in the cell with him, who got a taste for pretty redbone dancers dudes lol. However, if it turns out that what he did was in self-defense to a bezerk attack from her...which could be VERY feasible...I'm sorry but I have to say...self-defense is acceptable on both sides.
TexasGlamourChic: HawaiianLoveGirl how do you know her brother hasn't done anything like that to her?!? I'm not using anything as an excuse hell it's some women out here that think their man doesn't love them unless they're bruised and badly beaten...all Im saying is you all don't know why Chris Brown attacked her and at this point that sh*t is irrelevant because like I said he had more to lose than the average joe! If anyone should've walked away it should've been him...don't try to twist my words up either, I never said it was okay for a woman to hit a man I'm just saying just because she got into a fight with her brother doesn't prove she provoked that boy to beat the hell out of her the way he did.
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And I'm not trying to say I DO know what happened. All I'm saying is that SO FAR in all the blogs and all the media reports I've read, all I hear is that CHRIS BROWN THE MONSTER DECIDED TO PLAY SOCCER WITH INNOCENT RIHANNA'S HEAD! CHRIS IS A MONSTER WOMAN BEATER WHO PULLED HIS LAMBO OVER AND BEGAN TOSSING RIHANNA AROUND. This that and the other.
Not once have I heard a NUETRAL opinion on this issue. Not once has anyone stepped back and said: wait...could it be that he's not a woman beater...could it be that Rihanna who has a HISTORY of becoming physical in arguments may have attacked him in such a way that caused him to hit her back in self-defense.
It seems that people are saying it's ok for a woman to attack a man, but it's not ok for a man to attack a woman.
At this point EVERYTHING you read on the blogs is speculation. ALL of it is rumor. I've seen the charge sheet released by the LAPD, I've seen the press released from the LAPD, and another document that was released. And NOWHERE are the details of what led up to the fight listed. NOWHERE are the details of Rihanna's injuries listed. So people saying he BEAT HER UP are not correct because truth be told that came from those OTHER large blog sites. NO official words on what led up to it or her injuries have been released.
So since ALL this is speculation, then we might as well speculate in a way that gives BOTH sides a fair shake. Because I know women who want to go Mortal Combat on dudes and think hes supposed to stand there. And that's NOT ok.
@HawaiianLoveGirl
I AGREE, ABUSE IS NOT COOL. IT WORKS BOTH WAYS, IT IS NOT COOL FOR A WOMEN TO HIT A MAN NEITHER IS IT COOL FOR A MAN TO HIT A WOMAN. BUT, IF YOU HAVE TO DEFEND YOURSELF, DO WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO. MAN, WOMAN, WHATEVER.
I TRULY BELEIVE IT IS RHIANNA, IF I AM PROVEN WRONG AND CHRIS IS A WOMEN BEATER, HE DESERVES TO BE PUNISHED. I FEEL IN MY GUT THAT IT IS HER DOING THOUGH. THATS JUST MY OPINION. I COULD BE WRONG.....BUT I DOUBT I AM.
I dont know what happened and neither does anyone on hear but I feel that Rihanna provoked the heck outta Chris Brown. I would bet my right arm she hit him first and more than once.
I dont condone violence or woman beating but I dont condone man beating either. I firmly believe if a woman hits a man then he should hit her a$$ back!! Point blank!! Everybody always talking about a man should never ever hit a woman, what the fu.ck ever, she shouldnt hit him either!! Yall think its ok for a bi.tch to hit and slap and scratch a man and he suppose to just be a man and take it what ever!! Im reading all these comments that suggest that and im like whatever, thats bull if I ever heard any.
I am almost positive she pushed him to the limit!
I swear some of these comments I've been reading about this story make me sick. HE BEAT HER A$$ point blank. And he had no right to do it, regardless if she started hitting him first. No man has the right to put his hand on a woman no matter what. Grab her by the shoulders and shake her, that's fine. But to get physical. Do you know how many times I got physical with a dude and they NEVER hit me back. We don't know what went down that night, but we do know that Rihanna got beat up, I'm a Chris Brown fan, but I'm not goin to sit up here and defend him and say "She deserved it" like some ppl have already said. How bout a [EXPLETIVE] put his hands on YOU during a fight and see if you'll be sayin the same thing after he beat your ass. Or some man put his hands on your daughter, you not gon let [EXPLETIVE] slide forreal. It sickens me to see ppl laugh about it and call her all sorts of "crazy bitches" and this and that. So what if she is "over protective" or whatever the case, Chris should have walked away and let that [EXPLETIVE] go.
What’s so shocking about Rihanna and her brother clashing??? They’re not the first and they won’t be the last… I battled with my brothers in my earlier state in life; as a matter a fact I think that’s why I don’t take any nonsense from anyone; including dudes!!! Bottom line, Chris Brown had no right putting his hands on her; especially in such manner… What she really need to do now is take that same brother and have him dust Chris Brown a&& out and see how he likes it!!!
See now this opens up a whole other issue. Since the 60's women have been slowly getting too much power and it has got to their heads and now they think they can do ANYTHING to men and we cannot retaliate. Time for men to stand back up again. Not with fists but we need to have our rights and our respect too!!!
@BreBre928
WOMEN KILL ME THINKING THAT JUST BECAUSE THEY ARE A WOMEN THEY CAN GO AROUND HITTING MEN BECAUSE MEN ARE NOT "SUPPOSED" TO HIT THEM BACK OR DEFEND THEMSELVES.
YOU DON'T HAVE A RIGHT TO PUT YOUR HANDS ON A MAN, OR ANYBODY ELSE. THAT MAKES YOU WRONG FOR STARTERS.
ANYBODY HAS A RIGHT TO DEFEND THEMSELVES. IF YOU ATTACK SOMEONE AND YOU GET HIT BACK BECAUSE THAT PERSON HAS TO STOP YOU FROM HITTING THEM, YOU ARE AT FAULT
POINT BLANK PERIOD.
YOU LUCKY YOU DIDN'T GET THE TASTE SLAPPED OUT YOUR MOUF.
YALL SELF HATING BYTCHES NEED TO SHUT UP..YALL DIDN'T HEAR HER SAY WHY SHE WAS FIGHTING HER BROTHER NOW DID YA..HELL, HE WAS PROBABLY BEATING HER AZZ!!! IT'S PLENTY BROTHERS WHO DO THINGS TO THEIR SISTERS...VIOLENT THINGS...I'M SURE HE WAS DOING SOMETHING ABUSIVE TO THE GIRL....AND BROTHERS SOMETIMES LIKE TO STICK THEIR PICKLE IN THEIR SISTERS GOODIES TOO...EVER THINK OF THAT...IDIOTS...
Most men live by example. His step father used to beat his mother, so he figured that's what you gotta do to "shut'her'up!"
I don't condone violence, but I believe if you hit me I'm gonna hit you back....boy, girl, man, woman, child....whatever.
Ladies...don't put your hands on a man (and vice versa) because the first reaction is to swing back. Sorry but true....
I was the only girl in a house with three older brothers and my twin brother and we argues but never fought. Me and my twin did but we would never hit each othe with a da.mn bottle. NEVER!!! My older brother slung me around a time or two but never fists or hitting or anything like that. She was bragging about it like its nothing.
MTO Let's be fair...
Curtesy MSNBC...Singer Chris Brown arrested for assault Chris Brown has history of abuse in family Singer told magazine that as a child, "he wanted to kill abusive stepdad"
You see that MTO...Did you read that...he is a violent bully!...Report on that MTO
Continued... Feb. 9: R&B singer Chris Brown is out on bail after being arrested for assaulting an unidentified woman. Neither he nor his girlfriend, singer Rihanna, attended last night’s Grammy Awards. TODAY contributor Maria Menounos reports.
LOS ANGELES - Chris Brown has been arrested for criminal threats in connection with an alleged violent incident with a woman reported to be the singer’s girlfriend, Rihanna, on Saturday night – but this may not be the singer’s first experience with violence.
In a 2007 interview with GIANT magazine, Brown spoke candidly about his family’s history with alleged abuse.
When he was 11, the R&B star-to-be told his mother that he would go to jail for killing his allegedly abusive stepfather. Story continues below ↓advertisement | your ad here
“I just want you to know that I love you,” Brown told his mother, according to the magazine. “But I’m gonna take a baseball bat one day while you at work, and I’m gonna kill him.”
“He used to hit my mom … He made me terrified all the time, terrified like I had to pee on myself,” Brown claimed during the interview. “I remember one night he made her nose bleed. I was crying and thinking, ‘I’m just gonna go crazy on him one day,’ I hate him to this day.”
Brown said he found relief from his alleged troubled home through creative endeavors.
“Music, basketball and drawing was my outlet to keep me away from all that,” he said.
As previously reported on AccessHollywood.com, both Brown and Rihanna pulled out of Sunday evening’s Grammy Awards before the ceremony.
Brown turned himself in to police on Sunday evening, the LAPD confirmed to Access.
According to his booking sheet, Brown was being held on a $50,000 bail under a felony charge. He has since been released.
As a CHILD - you don't know how to chanel your anger, especially with your sibling you go hard as you get older you have less aggression, you learn to calm down and take a step back not that either are old enough to have their aggression under control but whats worse
Fighting with your sibling or Watching your Dad beat the crap out of your Mom?
who's more likely to follow after their past actions:
A fighter with your sibling or watching your dad beat the crap out of your Mom?
Survey says?
Come on MTO you guys are making me begin to think that you have no journalist etiquette. Seems you guys trying to do everything to sabotage her credibility, give me a damn break I never been so disgusted by any report written by you guys except for this one. Leave that for his lawyers to establish.
Anyways it is what it is.
Okay, now we have been hearing, reading, and adding our own opinons as to what really happened between Chris and Rhianna. To be honest I am now over the entire ordeal. They are both grown and know right from wrong. However, I do have issues with comments like the one "darealwifey" left and others that fall in that category. To me they are speaking as if they were really there. We all need to leave the comments and judgements about Chris Brown alone.
Before I go any further let me state that I don't condone physical violence of any kind. I grew up around domestic violence in my home so I know the damage that it can cause. However, everyone is ready be judge, jury, and executioner without knowing what really went down. To tell you the truth I don't want to know because what they do in private or public is none of my business.
We all need to fall back and let what comes of this come to light. True enough he should not have hit even if she did or didn't hit him first. However, there are three sides to this story: his, hers, and God's (which is the truth). Lastly, why are people getting into such an uproar is it because Rhianna has money and is in the lime light. I mean you don't see people ready to comment when "Susie" from next door got beat by the hands of her husband and or boyfriend now do you? NO! So just as people let those type of situation play out on their own; we should do the same. Besides what info we do comes from the press and other websites with "official sources" that were not even at the scene either. Now I'm DONE!
I was the only girl in a house with three older brothers and my twin brother and we argues but never fought. Me and my twin did but we would never hit each othe with a da.mn bottle. NEVER!!! My older brother slung me around a time or two but never fists or hitting or anything like that. She was bragging about it like its nothing.
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I completely agree. It's clear that alot of woman of here haven't been raised properly. Because in addition to my mother telling my brothers never to put their hands on a woman, my mother also told me never to put my hands on a man.
These crazy ass females who think it's ok for a woman to beat up a man, but a man can't hit her back are ridiculous.
And this crazy [EXPLETIVE], "if a woman is hitting you, just shake her". GIRL BYE! What if she has a knife? What is she has a glass bottle? What if she has a metal pole? He supposed to just shake her. PLEASE!
Something provoked this, and it's sad that there are so many women who think that it's ok for a woman to beat the [EXPLETIVE] out of a man, but if a man hits her back in self-defense he's a monster. That's so pathetic. And that's exactly why there are so many lonely women out there. Because you want something that you aren't willing to give. It's ridiculous.
This is sad all around. And the saddest part is the facts haven't even been released but people are already crucifying him as a woman beater. Now what if you hear that she pulled out a blade or a bottle. Is he still a woman beater. It's so sad, the mindset that most people have.
Brown__Suga lol@ all these damn short novels - - - - - -
LOL @ people who log on to websites that user comments are a major feature of and then become disturbed when they actually have to do some reading. This is the only web site I've encountered where people complain about the length of user comments. LOL.
@aWaKe and HawaiianLoveGirl couldn't have put it better!i'm from the caribbean and women tend to kinda go overboard when they're angry.including myself.i've pushed at my husband knowing full well he can snap and hurt me,but at that point i'm so angry i don't care,and i think he won't hurt me cuz we're not in the caribbean anymore where the police don't even blink once at abuse.luckily he always just clenches his jaw and walks away...and that actually makes me feel like an idiot and now it's easy for me to just walk away from an argument too:)
WE GONNA BOYCOTT THIS SITE IF YALL DON'T STOP BASHING THIS GIRL..IF SHE HIT HIM, HE COULD HAVE SLAPPED HER AZZ TO SHOCK HER AND GET THE HELL AWAY..THIS FOOL CHOSE TO STAY AND BEAT THE HELL OUT OF HER....AND I DONT KNOW WHAT SOME OF YOU PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SEEING IN THESE PICTURES, BUT OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS, CHRIS BROWN HAS LOOKED VERY ANGRY AND DISTRAUGHT IN SOME OF HIS PICS..THE YOUNG MAN IS DISTURBED...HE CLEARLY SEEMS LIKE HE DOESN'T HAVE IT ALL!!
Still doesn't mean anything. I fight used to fight with my brother too. So what? I slashed a knife through a screen door trying to hit him. I would never actually hurt someone though. I did it to scare him. And I am in no way in favor of Rihanna as you all know from my comments I don't care for her but with the facts that we have it's seems it's going her in her favor she is the one busted up.
i personally do not believe any of this story. i wont until i actually see more than some headlines and any random exposed ass and bruised nuckles.
i think the whole thing is a ploy to sell more records for rhianna. doesnt she have some sad, sorry song about rehab that just got released? some whoa is me bullsh'it?! i recently heard it, but since i make a conscious effort to never listen to her music (even though i like HER), it could be that i'm late hearing it.
@ lawgirl26 use your own advice and don't judge Chris, you state his career over and you have not heard or seen any real facts. just what the media has reported so far and who really trust the media. Judge less you be judged. If he did it GOD will still forgive him 2 bad a lot of simple people want! Pray for understanding and healing in their relationship! instead of choosing sides, no winners in this one! Oh yeah, hell no I am not reading no white blogs to form any opinion on this or any other subject..thanks for letting us know where you get yours!
TexasGlamourChic I'm ready to be done with this subject already. She didn't suffer any life threatning injuries so I don't get why everyone is getting so upset behind it. Women get their asses kicked everyday and I've seen worse beatdowns than this in my neighborhood, it's not uncommon for a man to hit a woman, the sh*t has been going on for yrs...and some of you on here trying to pretend you don't condone this but you listen to rappers who brag about pimping women and slappin em all day everday so stop frontin~!
^^^^^^Co-sign 1000 percent! LOL
@ topic: The most I ever used to do to my younger brother was lock him in the closet!
I'd never even think about bustin' him upside the head with a dangerous object, although I've thumped his head a few times...LOL
It's obvious that Chris and Rhi Rhi both come from volitile families with heated backgrounds. So when sparks ignite, there's bound to be a big a.z.z. explosion!
@rileyjenai
Cut the Shyt dumbass...I didn't start no shyt...scroll the [EXPLETIVE] up u will see all the shyt that go started long b-4 i got here.
"chris was arrested for making criminal threats...not beating rihannas ass"
Are you phuckin serious...I KNOW you don't believe that shyt...so PHUCK OFF moron!!!!!!!
My essays are long, but it made you look didn't it, Right, right, right dumb Phuck!!!!
HawaiianLoveGirl
I must agree with you. It is not a case of saying a man should hit a woman but people need to recognize that women also have no right physically abusing a man cause they angry and figure well he can;t hit me back cause he is a man. Men are human too. People always talk about they woulda do this and if that was me, blah blah blah. If they were fighting in the car (and Rihanna is known for fighting in vehicles and yes I am from Barbados), he would have had to do whatever to get her off before she got them killed. Why would he want to be fighting while driving? That does not make sense. And if he really wanted to beat her up, he could of just kept driving to where they were staying and dealt with it there where only the two of them would have known about it and who wants to be public fighting? These stories just not adding up. Hopefully they both learn from this experience.
@BreBre928 IF THE BOY IS BEATING HER FOR NO REASON RUTHLESSLY, THATS HIS AZZ WITH MY FOOT IN IT.
IF SHE IS ATTACKING THE YOUNG MAN RELENTLESSLY, HE IS DOING NOTHING BUT TRYING TO DEFEND HIMSELF THAT MAKES HER AN AZZ. AND I WILL TEACH HER JUST THAT. YOU DON'T HIT ANYONE WHO HAS NOT PUT THERE HANDS ON YOU, MUCH LESS A MAN.
VIOLENCE IS WRONG PERIOD, BUT YOU DON'T PUT YOUR HANDS ON A MAN UNLESS YOU ARE TRYING TO DEFEND YOURSELF.
LMAO Isn't it funny how women say they've hit men before when angry but how many of these women are as quick to raise their fist when angered by another female?? All of sudden when it's them and another female they know how to restrain themselves,i.e. there's no protection from the "system" to back them up. It's that conniving punk mentality of todays female, that's been bred by western society. Go try that hit and expect not to get hit back shyt over in Asia or the Middle East...lmao.
WANNA AMERICANS FOOLISH IS S.H.I.T SO NUN A WANNA NEVA QUARREL WID WANNA SIBLINGS NOR BEAT DEM NOR NAIN NOR GET IN FIGHTS , DAT STILL INT GIVE NO MAN D SO IN SO RIGHT 2 BEAT SHE , WANNA TALKIN BOUT HOW WANNA DOAN LIKE SHE NO MORE N HOW WANNA LOOKIN AT SHE DIFFERENT WANNA FEEL D SO IN SO GIRL CARE BOUT WANNA THO , GO SUCK A DI,CK N LEAVE HER ALONE DAS WA !!!! AND IF CHRIS COME BAK 2 BIM HE SHUD GET HE HEAD STAND UP ONNNNNNNNNNNNNN SO WANNA DAT MAD CUD F.U.C.K RITE OFF ( I LOVE U RI RI ) DIS COMMENT COMIN ALL D WAY FROM BIM
WANNA INT KNO ONE RA.SSOLE BOUT WEST INDIAN WOMEN CAUSE WANNA FOOLISH IS C.U.N.T SHE SHUDDA CRACK HE F.U.C.K.I.N.G HEAD STRAIGHT THROUGH D MIDDLE HE CHRIS BROWN BARE WANT KILLIN , BUN FIRE PON HE, AND WE BAJANS HATEEEEEEEEEEEEE HIM NO[SPAM] HATEEEEE DE LIL RED [EXPLETIVE] DAS WA, AND WANNA DAT TALKIN BOUT RIRI STUPID IS SH.I.T COME 2 BARBADOS N TALK D SHI.T WANNA TALKIN CAUSE WANNA WUD NEVA MECK IT BAK HOME
Come on everyone....right now its speculation...until I hear Chris or Rhi say something I wont say anything negative about them. I feel they are two young people in love and had a misunderstanding that got out of hand...but again..we dont really know that either...So Chris and Rhi...love ya both and I am praying you you guys...
Antidumb
I wonder if he would be able to go TOE to TOE with her Brother, he looks like he's bigger than Chris, I advise him to stay away. - - - - - -
Famous last words from a dittsy broad. "He looks bigger". Negro please! A lot of dudes have caught beat downs stepping to smaller guys just because they thought they had a size advantage. Many of them spurred on by dittsy conniving broads too. Again classic "conniving punk" move of the modern day chick. You wanna fight a man like a man but when it backfires because you're not a man what do you do......GO GET A MAN. FOH fool....why not just behave yourself like a lady and keep your hands to yourself. And I'm just commenting in general terms because the true story behind this CHRISIANNA puppy love saga is still unclear to me.
Now watch MTO bite the Chrisianna tag for this couple.
@SWEETCHEEKS22 WRITE PROPER ENGLISH IF YOU WANT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY I'M WEST INDIAN TO AND THE WAY YOU WRITING MAKES NO DAMN SENSE U KNOW DAMN WELL YOU COULDN'T WRITE LIKE THAT IN SCHOOL. AND YOU KNOW FOR YOURSELF IF A WOMAN BACK HOME PUT HER HANDS ON MAN BETTER LOOK TO GET HIT BACK STOP WRITING FOOLISHNESS.
I say the bail was too low for there to have been any serious damage done. If it was enough evidence to book him on felony charges...he would not have been released that soon for that amount of money. They wouldnt have released him if they felt he was a threat to her or himself.
Regarding this thread, we all NEED TO SHUT UP UNTIL SOMEONE'S CAMP OR SOME OFFICIAL FOOTAGE IS RELEASED.
@Luke-cage
I am a women and i agree with you a 120%. I do not condone a man hiting a women, but some women just do not know when to stop. the guy walks away, trys to keep his composer and she's right behing his ass, provoking him and when she sees thats not working the name calling starts and she resorts to hitting. so my questions is What the hell do ppl expect the man to do? his a damn man he will strict back. women like that, I dont feels sorry for, they deserve it. act like a civilize women and not an animal. you think its ok to hit a man, then get ready to get beat up like one.
@SweetCheeks22
I am Bajan too and I really don't need to see the need for all of that. You just perpetuating what these people were saying by acting like that. I for one do not hate Chris and it is not true that ALL bajans hate him. Please. Like Ridingfinest says it is difficult to take you seriously if you cannot even be understood by the majority.
Oh and Awake in this case you can be pretty much assured that Sweetcheeks is Caribbean. Only Bajans use the word [EXPLETIVE]lol.
@HawaiianLoveGirl
You took all the words out my mouth. do not get me wrong I like chris and riri, but its not always the mans fault. I wish ppl would see. i use to be like that. and one time my boyfriend hit me. he did it out of anger and didnt realize how hard he hit me... but it made me think twice. i was upset that he hit me back, but i took a step back and realize you know what if i dont like it what makes me think he likes that. and they funny thing is he always stood there and took it.... i kept doing it cause i knew he wouldnt hit me back and one day he snap cause he couldnt take it any more... and it wasnt like they were huge arguements they were petty, but because he gave me the silent treatment i would get mad and hit him to piss him off. i see i was wrong and i would never condone a women to hit a man or vice versa
@ ANTIDUMB
DO U SUFFER F/ A MULTIPLE PERSONALITY COMPLEX OR U JUST HAVE SHORT MEMORY LOST.... NOW IF IM NOT MISTAKEN JUST YESTERDAY U WERE SAYING THAT SHE SHOULDNT CALL THE POLICE AND U WONT BUY HIS CD 3-4 YRS UNLESS HE DOES CHARITY WORK IN AFRICA NOW U SAYING THE OPPISITE... B ITCH MAKE UP UR MIND, I SWEAR UR A F UCKING BLOG ROBOT OR SOMETHING Y DONT U DO US ALL A FAVOR AND MALFUNCTION FOR THE NEXT 10 MONTHS
@spermmakesprettykids
IT'S OKAY, I WAS LMAO THE WHOLE TIME. I TOOK NONE OF IT TO HEART.
STORMZOE JUST GET ON THIS SIGHT TO PHUCK WITH PEOPLE AND STIR SHYT UP. THE BYTCH HAS NO LIFE, I THINK IT'S A RACIST WHITE GIRL. SHE STAY TRYING TO DISCREDIT ANYTHING REGARDING OBAMA OR ANYTHING PERTAINING TO BLACK PEOPLE.
This Bitch is Crazy shes been that way for a while.. Poor Chris!! He got caught up with the wrong one.. She stalks him blows his phone up when he doesnt ans and will also not attend her rehersals so she can stalk him. RIHANNA Baby get it together break ups happen.. He hasnt wanted her for a while just didnt want the drama
Is Rhianna showing her face NO, so why should Chris show his face who knows what damage has been done to him, just because a picture of a bruised hand surfaces that didnt look bruidsed to me. Furthermore if she did assault Chris SHE should be charged equally if Chris is expected to act as a Gentleman she should conduct herself as Lady.
I'm a DUDE (a straight one), and this b*tch azz CB bit her too? What kind of gay sh*t is that, it's bad enough he allegedly hit her.
I don't care how much mouth a chick has, if she ain't hitting u then u have no right to hit her. To suggest that if a female has a big mouth she deserves to be hit, just shows how flamming yo azz is.
Chicks is dumb as hell though, I'm talkin about the HOES who will defend this punk til the very end. I also hate when other dudes just defend stupid sh*t that other catz do, just because I'm a man doesn't mean I have to stick up for other dudes. That some gay azz sh*t, real talk!
This situation that has occurred, is unnecessary and immoral behavior. She is an insensitive young woman whom I use to like until reading this article and other articles about her behavior and the recent altercation between the two celebrities. Any person who clearly boasts about hitting their siblings with any weaponry is an insensitive, cold hearted maniac. she might as well be apprehended and incarcerated for her volatile behavior along with the other freaks. e.q. (charles manson etc). Chris Brown's behavior does not justify what Rihanna may have done to him, however I believe that any woman who so rightfully feels thats she can acquire the role of a man, threaten him with harm or agression should be treated as one! She is not a victim! She may be an antagonist but who am I to say! and furthermore, why do we as people continue with this notion of women being this helpless victim when at times they are at the epitome of the problem.
I am a strong, educated women and I feel that there are times that you have to compete with your male counterparts to get respect. All Im saying is if you feel that you can assume the characterisitcs of a man then you shouldn't have any problem being treated like one. I am sorry that their problems had to escalate into this horrific situation but I believe that you should not provoke others if you aren't mentally or physically comeptetent to handle the situation.
@sweetcheeks22... This is most probably why Rhianna got into problems with CHRIS that very same language, which as you can see has upset some. My ex was Bajan and spoke same way I use to totally ignore him because I couldn't understand what he was saying a half the time ,which made him become more aggresive
@ aWake i agree with you.guys are human and i believe they have tempers shorter than girls,so if they get annoyed they'll let you know some way or another.and CHRIS DID NOT BEAT THE S/H/I/T out of her!!!!!!that is a lie.where have you seen that at???he would still be in jail if he did beat her to a pulp but he isn't,right....
and who the heck hits a family member in the face with glass.let lone your own brother!?!?!wow rihanna.and then it SEEMS she just shoves it off as if it's nothing.
This is all speculation-everything we are reading is not fact. I saw the video/pictures of Chris and Rihanna that night on tv and on the Internet. He was clearly not feeling her. She was trying to be all on him and hug him, but he was not smiling as we have seen in the past and his body language was stiff. He was barely even looking at her. No one condones abuse, but why are people acting like a woman cannot flip out on a (young) man? Hell hath no fury like a scorned woman. Stop acting like it is so impossible for Rihanna to have been the first to be abusive and stop acting like a goofy and seemingly happy young guy like Chris could not snap either. Everyone is going to keep talking like they know something when they know absolutely nothing, but only the involved parties and God know what really happened. First of all no one knows what happened. This is much ado about nothing so far...It is none of our business anyway. Neither one should be hitting on each other and they should not be together if this is what it has come down to anyway. Two kids, abusive stepdad/crackhead father, superstars, playing grown up, anger management/community service, break it off, lesson learned. Next.
I've said it once, I do not condone no man hittin a woman but I am reading so many comments by women who are admitting to hittin men. Y'all really need to stop doing that 4Real. One day you gone hit the wrong man and you gone end up in the hospital. Not every man care about you being a woman. The 1st time could set it off seriously. As a woman, you should never trust that a man will not strike you, therefore women should not be hittin' men period and vise versa.
PROBLEM SOLVED!
THIS IS OLD NEWS PART OF IT WAS TRUE, THE GIRL IS THE ONE WHO IS RUMOURED TO PLAY AALIYAH. THIS PART IS NOT TRUE AS THE CAR CHRIS WAS DRIVING WAS SUPPOSE TO BE A TWO SEATER SHE WAS NOT IN THE CAR BUT HER NUMBER SHOWED UP ON CHRIS'S CELL IT WAS CONFIRMED BOTH THEIR REPS TOLD THEM TO PLAY LOVEY DOVEY FOR CAMERAS CHRIS HAD FINISHED WITH RHIANNA TWO WEEKS AGO HE DIDNT WANT TO SPEND WEEKEND WITH HER, RHIANNA WANTED TO SAVE FACE FOR THE GRAMMYS TO AVOID FURTHER SPECULATION. WHEN THEY WERE AT THE PRE GRAMMYS CHRIS LOOKED PISSED RHIANNA FACE LOOKED FORGED WHEN THINGS WERE OVER CHRIS WENT HIS WAY SHE WASN'T HAVING IT HE TOLD HER TO GET OUT THE CAR SHE WOULND'T SO THIS IS WHEN THEY STARTED FIGHTING SHE GRABBED HIM WOULDNT LET GO SO HE BIT HER PLUS IT WAS REPORTED SHE TOOK HIS CAR KEYS AND WOULDNT GIVE THEM BACK
Whatever Rihanna did to Chris, she will not be doing again any time soon.
She made a gross error in judgment. Po' thang.
She thought she had Chris on lock because he was younger than her. She thought she was G-d's gift to him. She thought she could disrespect him and he'd take it. She thought she could show up with blisters on her lip and he would pretend not to notice and kiss her anyway.
She thought wrong.
Only a fool would allow someone to repeatedly abuse them physically, psychologically, and emotionally.
If, for some reason, you are unable to walk away, you have to fight your way out.
Chris snapped. Why? Don't know. SHE should have never gotten into the car with him. She knew he was done with her.
Domestic violence is domestic violence. No human being deserves to be hit, and a woman who hits a man is JUST as wrong as a man who hits a woman.
Of course, we all know that a man shouldn't beat on a woman. Chris would have been smart to walk away and have her arrested. Sad thing is, even in situations where a man tries to defend himself he is still vilified for it. That's why the second I see anger issues i'm out and I cut a chick off completely. You don't want things to escalate to the point where you are in a no win situation (either get beat on or get your name dragged through the mud for defending yourself).
LOL when is the next album or video?
I don't know these mofos and don't care to. I might enjoy their music or videos and that's it, so that is all I'm interested in. All this personal mess is for Dr Phil.
Yall need to tend to your own lives and quit getting so passionate and emotional about some strangers. None of us know what the deal is. They could be functional crackheads...
...long as they keep making good music, that's all that should matter.
Just to add my two cents:
I messed with a girl who was pretty short-tempered. Beautiful, but short-tempered. This chick was Ethopian. Baddest chick I've ever seen, but when she got mad, she got MAD. If I ever lied to her (she was good at catching it), she would throw heels at me, smack me, kick me, scream in my face...and the most I've ever done was grab her arms and hold her back. I would NEVER touch someone I loved, and I still love the chick to this day. She had a lot of built up anger, and she also had a lot of growing up to do. I believe that's the case with Rihanna AND Chris. My ex was about 5'4, 120 tops, and I'm 5'11, 185. Fuq I look like attacking her.
BUT still, I'm just an outsider looking in. I'm so interested in how all this is gonna play out.
Local News Story
| PRINTER FRIENDLY FORMAT | EMAIL STORY Family wants Rihanna home Published on: 2/10/09.
DESPITE ASSURANCES that Rihanna is fine, developments are pointing to the Bajan superstar as the alleged victim in the domestic violence investigation involving her boyfriend Chris Brown.
While police refused to officially release a statement indicating the victim's identity, new images and documents suggested Rihanna was at the center of the claims.
According to TMZ.com, crime reports indicated the victim's name as Robyn Fenty, Rihanna's birth name.
People.com reported that Los Angeles Police Chief William Bratton said he expected the case would be handed over to the district attorney's office tomorrow and that prosecutors could charge Brown, 19, with more crimes.
Brown, 19, turned himself into police on Sunday for making criminal threats after getting into a heated fight with a then-unidentified woman in a vehicle in Los Angeles that day.
Concerned family members, who declined to be identified, said she was "recovering" and her parents were trying to get her back to Barbados.
Brown is due to appear in court on March 5.(RJ/JS)
For the full details of this story, please read tomorrow's MIDWEEK NATION or visit www.nationnews.com.
@ Hawaiian Love Girl: >> She has a history of domestic violence in her life as well <<
Really? Hmm. When has she ever been charged with DV?
It's pretty disturbing to see this story being published. MTO is acting like a crappy defense lawyer who smears victims.
Why are so many siblings - especially boy/girl - allowed to put their hands on each other and fight? So many people have said this like it is nothing, almost proud. If your family allowed this, then they are seriously f*cked up and dysfunctional.
Women shouldn't put their hands on men unless they are defending themselves.
Having said that, let's not pretend that women and children are not prey for violent and disturbed men across this country and the world.
It's funny how men are worried about some hood trick in their past, but have nothing to say about the constant victimization, rape, mutilation and murder of women.
Wouldn't you just love to live in the Middle East?
MTO how much is Chris Brown's publicist paying you to trash Rihanna. Its also come out the Chris' stepdad used to beat him and his mom's senseless. The boy is just wrong.
Also on E! they said the police report alleges that they got into a fight in the car, Ri-Ri took the car keys and threw them out the window. CB couldn't find the keys and commenced a severe beat down that included choking her till she was unconscious. When she came to, he was gone. He prolly thought he killed her.
MTO report the truth so this violent young man can get some help before he really kills someone next time.
I'M A BIT OF AN OLD HEAD, SO GENERALY I DONT KEEP UP WITH THE LATEST SCANDALS AND GOSSIP.....BUT THIS INCIDENT IS MORE THAN DISTURBING. WHY IS IT WHEN WE MAKE GREAT STRIDES IN THIS WORLD(THE ELECTION OF THE FIRST BLACK PRESIDENT) FOR INSTANCE. WE TURN RIGHT AROUND AND DIGRESS. THESE ARE TWO OF THE MOST CELEBRATED ENTERTAINERS OF THIS DECADE,WHO, QUITE BY CHANCE, HAPPENED TO FIND AND FALL IN LOVE WITH EACH OTHER. I'D HATE TO BELIEVE THE RELATIONSHIP WAS DOOMED FROM THE BEGINING, BUT I FEAR IT WAS. NEITHER OF THESE (KIDS) HAVE EXPERIENCED ENOUGH IN (REAL) LIFE TO KNOW WHAT BOUNDARIES ARE. BOTH ARE/WERE ADMIRED BY MILLIONS AND ARE NOW IN DANGER OF LOSING SEEMINGLY PROMISING CAREERS. ONLY CHRIS AND RIHANNA REALLY KNOW WHAT HAPPENED THAT NIGHT, BUT NOW IT'LL BE PLAYED OUT IN A PUBLIC FORUM....IT'S A SHAME THAT WE LIVE IN A WORLD AND TIME WHERE SUCCESSFUL, LUCKY PEOPLE CANT BE SATISFIED WITH ALL THEY HAVE ACHIEVED. INSTEAD THEY NEED DRAMA....I'D JUST LIKE TO ASK THEM BOTH.....WAS IT WORTH IT?
RedDragon|
"AND I DONT KNOW WHAT SOME OF YOU PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SEEING IN THESE PICTURES, BUT OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS, CHRIS BROWN HAS LOOKED VERY ANGRY AND DISTRAUGHT IN SOME OF HIS PICS..THE YOUNG MAN IS DISTURBED...HE CLEARLY SEEMS LIKE HE DOESN'T HAVE IT ALL!!"
I brought this up on another MTO Thread|The expressions he was making..were questonable and not in a good way|
I believe my sister and I unconsciously tried to kill our little brother. Until he started hitting, kicking, and biting back at 5 years old.
That's when we started leaving him alone. Because it hurt.
I never saw my father fight anyone. Ever. The men in my family did not fight.
But one time, when was 6 years old, I learned a very valuable lesson.
My uncle came to visit and just sat down in the dining room. Shortly thereafter, my aunt came over yelling. She was angry about something.
Then, she went in the kitchen and came out with a knife.
I blinked. My aunt was on the floor in a puddle of blood with a chair sticking out of head. She was really yelling then. And my uncle was gone.
The lesson -- behave like a young lady and you won't get hit in the head with a chair.
@HawaiianLoveGirl
You, and everybody else that agrees you have taken the words right out of my mouth!! I have been trying to tell people that its not always a man's fault if he gets pushed to the extreme; but like you I don't condone man hitting a woman, but if a woman put herself in a man's position- expect to get hit back!!
..and to everyone whose saying that they have been in a fight with their brothers and sh!t- WHATEVER and I am willing to bet that yal are the types of females that get all up in a dudes face and pop sh!t expecting him not to hit you.. Just like a typical female, ghetto female.
Child Pluheez!!!!
Chris Brown looks like a woman beater...and a media W*ORE...he will do anything for attention.
Anyways, this story is causing me
D-I-S-T-U-R-B-I-A....
Where are the BEYONCE stories? I am so sick of these stories about Chris "the woman beater" Brown.
These two clowns' DRAMA has taken away from media attention from my girl BEYONCE! Holla.
CHRIS' LESSON === NEVER, NEVER SAY NO TO A HORNY WOMAN!!!!
RHI (A.K.A.) HIS COUGAR, WANTED SOME YOUNG D!CK THAT NIGHT, WE SAW HER HANGING ALL OVER HIM AT THAT PARTY, SHE IS NEVER THAT LOVEY, DOVEY IN PUBLIC WITH CHRIS - -
CHRIS SAID NO WAY, CUZ HE'S READY TO BREAK UP
THEN, RHI'S CLAWS CAME OUT CUZ THAT, POONAHNIE NEEDED TO BE FED
CHRIS - - NEXT TIME JUST GIVE HER SOME!!!!
Oneofakind, I read pain in your posts. All men aren't dogs.
Some women are simply with men that do not respect, love, or care for them.
These women should take some time to be alone to discover why they continue to attract and keep the wrong men.
Violent men are not good catches. If he hits you once, you have to leave him. Never to return. Or you will be beaten and bloodied again.
Even if you attack him first and hits you back. That relationship is over. Go your separate ways.
Alt69girl -- you're right. Chris was done with the relationship with Rihanna long ago. A picture is worth a thousand words. There were many photos of them together and Chris did not look happy in most of them.
Rihanna knew it. Why hang on to a man that does not want you? Disaster waiting to happen. And it did.
After those blisters showed up on her lip, Chris should have taken off running in the opposite direction. He tried to break it off easy and walk away.
But what was she doing in his car? What were they doing together? Posturing.
Or as my Grandmother would say...signifying worse than stealing.
o my f'n gawd! lmfao all of bentley's contestants are batty bwoyz! LOL they can't be any gayer and they sure seem not to be trying to hide it.
everybody's eyebrow is done up! LOL roq is gayer than elton john, and his 'workout partner' looks like he's bout to have an accident in his pants when he looks at roq. protege of course is undeniable! LOL shiiit, they are all undeniable.
@ ANTIDUMB
Does what ur saying really make sense to u when ur typing this shi t..... HOW can u say that he shouldnt have hit her but say he shouldnt go to jail...what exactly do u suggest they do with him GENIUS????? ( how bout u dig an underground railroad for his azz harriet tubman wannabe psycho) And u go on to babble that if he does Charity work in Africa then that justifies the fact that he "might" be physically abusive.... but ur ANTIDUMB.... stop w/ the antics already! U do not sound educated just b/c u type long azz essays and CAPITALIZE every other WORD in UR damn comment IDIOT. U make me go into cardiac arrest everytime i see ur long meaningless ramblings.... u complain about the topics on this site and how stupid everything is blah blah blah blah but yet u set ur alarm clock everyday to make sure u dont forget to take ur meds and hop on MTO for the day...
I'm with the poster Awake and I am on Team Chris, u know why? Because why the hell is the media making this damn girl out to be the innocent victim without hearing the whole story? Who's to say what she is saying is the whole truth. She's a spiteful barbados byotch and watch how she try to drag him under and get everyone to feel sorry for her. Watch!
Like "Awake" said, anyone will defend themselves if they are attacked. Yes I don't feel a man should beat a woman, but hitting a woman and beating a woman is 2 damn things.. Sometimes you have to slap a damn woman to get her ass off you, and she seem like the type to keep coming after she's been slapped.. I mean they are DOGGING CHRIS OUT ON CNN! Its unfair, his side isn't even being told. He than loss his commercial endorsements over this damn girl.. and he has been in the biz longer. smdh
Well i think she is one of them chicks who hit on a dude, and then get all mad and cry when the mother flucka hit ha ass back, as a woman i dont feel any dude should hit you BUT if your hittin him he has the human right to push you off him, and i dont think he bite her ass, and ive been hit by a man before, it takes more then a couple of punchs to get lumps and stuff like that i think that tralup is hiden something from my understandin he dumped her ass and she just doesnt wanna let him go,.
i think shes violent anyway,, she must have hit him,, you cant hit him and then get mad when they stop you, this story is touchy subject, its peoples rights to defend themselves vs domestic violence
theres a hell of alot more to this story then we all think,, and when his gets out, im sure everything will change.
for fun! lol
what really happend between chris is rihanna
rihanna and chris to the public eye look'd so picture perfect, but chris knew that rihanna was unfaithful, so in the car he felt it was time to say goodbye, rihanna started yelling an screaming and then she started to cry, she didnt wanna break it off, but chris knew this couldnt last forever,
they kept fighting in the lobby, they got into the elevator, rihanna was offended how dare he dump a girl like me? she said chris i have one more thing to tell you chris,, i gave you herpes!
chris got so upset he turned superhuman, that he knocked her from wall to wall, rihanna started screamin S.O.S
all i gotta say is wow.....i don't no fax so imma jus say this they both r wrong if they r beat n on each other. n if violence was go n on y didn't sum 1 close 2 them intervene b4 all this shyt jump'd off? they both yung n unsure how 2 luv sum 1 cuzza their home lives. n they been move n so fast they haven't hadda chance 2 grow ^ n learn how 2. i hope this don't ruin their careers as bad pr usually duz. n i hope they continue 2 b blessed n get over this ugly mess w/out make n it worse. i have a feel n that it's gonna b a media hayday if the both uv them can't b mature n start air n out each other's dirty laundry. i jus wish there was sum where n tha world they can go n b alone wit themselves n work all this out n cum back stronger or both uv them jus take responsibility 4 their actions n realize wut went wrong y it went wrong n move on. u no clear the air so the media don't get it twisted n make it out 2 b a victim-villain thing
@MissAmerica1 @aWaKe I AGREE 100% WITH YOU. I DONT CONDONE VIOLENCE OF ANY KIND, NOT EVEN AMONG SCHOOL AGE CHILDREN. FEMALES HAVE THE AUDACITY TO FEEL A WOMAN CAN BE AS VIOLENT AS SHE WANTS & A MANS SUPPOSED TO JUST "WALK AWAY".
DONT TELL ME IF A MAN JUMPS ON YOU, YOUR NOT GONNA TRY IN DEFEND YOURSELF. THATS HUMAN NATURE, ITS CALLED SURVIVAL! IT WORKS FOR MEN TO BECAUSE GUESS WHAT LADIES, MEN ARE HUMANS 2. DO YOU HEAR ME NOW?
@HawaiianLoveGirl MY MOM RAISED US THE SAME WAY, BY TELLING THE BOYS, NEVER EVER STRIKE A FEMALE AND SHE TOLD US GIRLS THE SAME GOES FOR YOU, NEVER EVER STRIKE A MALE. YOU DANCE WITH THE DEVIL AND U GONNA GET BURNED...
AND FINALLY, COUPLES WHO GET TO THE POINT OF EMOTIONAL & PHYSICAL ABUSE OF EACH ANOTHER, NEED TO GHOST FM TAHT RELATIONSHIP. IT AINT CUTE & THERE AINT NO AMOUNT OF SEXIN, MAKIN UP OR "BUYIN BACK" GONNA FIX THE PAIN OF EACH ARGUMENT OR PHYSICAL BLOW. THAT RELATIONSHIP AINT THE ONE FOR YOU. TIME TO MOVE ON, NEXT!!!
Hey- I grew up with 7 boys and was the only girl for 11 years. We used to fight FOR REAL and once the cops we ALMOST called...but I'm STILL SMART ENOUGH to know better than to step to a man. I"ll protect myself but I ain't starting nothing!
Chris SAID you would see her true colors....they been showing all along.
if chris went over the top on her ass it is probabyly cause he is tired of here pulling the same [EXPLETIVE] over and over believe you me this is not the first time she has done anything to him and the [EXPLETIVE] probably built up. no her fights with her siblings don;t justify what chris done but it does show the type of person rihanna is. it shows she has a temper and i can even see her doing things on impulse like throwing the car keys cause she was mad just some childish [EXPLETIVE]. Naw you cannot tell me this si the first incident or that people don't get tired or that this wasn;t the last straw and that [EXPLETIVE] didn;t build up along the way??????? like I said the only people who know what happened were those directly involved and were there period!
Okay, why does it matter if she fought with her brother and smashed him in the face? At least she can defend herself. Me and my brothers grew up beating the crap out of eachother, that is what siblings do. None of us ended up beating on our spouses as adults, if anything, you fight with your siblings to learn how to defend yourself, it doesn't set a precedent for what type of temperment or person you are or eventually will be. Either way, even if she did try to fight him like she is a Man, there is no excuse to black and blue her face. I was dumb enough to step to my Son's father when we were dating in high school. He didn't hit me back but if he would have, it would have been to defend himself from getting hit, not to show everyone who is stronger. He should have pushed her off of him and made her get out of the car. Oh wait, she threw his keys out of the window. [EXPLETIVE] probably beat on her because he was mad he had to miss his booty call. He totally screwed his career up, all over what??? A puppy love relationship that would have eventually ended anyway. Gotta have more sense than that Chris..
""darealwifey"", where's your evidence? STFU w/o some!! police reports can totally be taken waaay outta context PERIOD!!! watch judge judy and watch her make a fool of people who swore on afidavits/legal testimony/police reports so STFU wait til trial or court..
and "blonenicole" i think dude shoulda beat you since you obviously admit you deserved it.. you just lucky dude has more self control than the average person!!
violence is natural tho i don't condone it if you pushing the buttons knowingly you deserve what you get. PERIOd cuz the bottom line is is if somebody put they hands on you in hostile manner (somebody being either male of female) you have the right to defend yourself. and as i said one slap, one grab, one push can do alot more aesthetic damage then really is the case, meaning looks worse than it really is as i stated above. even if you pinch a girl she could bruise get scabs, leave finger prints and possibly bleed depending on the person...
Devil's advocate, is all commenting on!!! to bring balance to this lob-sided opinions of scandal
and to all other ladies, are we living in the 1930's or 2009?? if so then men and women are equal, i dont condone beating on women in no way/shape or form, but if a bitch lay a hand on me and i give her proper verbal warning as i would with another equal male... you get what you get!! i've seen women rip out guys necks with they nails which even the girls sad he shoulda whoop her azz. and i've seen men break a woman's nose with a back hand slap (not even a closed fist( left her lips busted, nose bloody with colors i never knew could come out the human body) amd in both those cases the girl deserved it!!! not saying that this is the case but since we do not have the facts how can you easily take the side of either one especially when you know that all situations at this point are feasible, you illiterates understand what feasible means right cuz im not explaining.
What the f*uck are some of y'all saying? F*uck you mean, 'he has no right' to hit her? Does she have a f*uckin' right to hit HIM? You women have lost your damn minds! Y'all think everything y'all do is right and always play the victim in everything. A bitch can't do S*HIT for me but give me some p*ussy and get the f*uck out in the morning. I have NO respect for these b*itches out here and this is one of the reasons why.
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THIS IS WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT!!! THAT LIL B*ITCH HAS SOME ISSUES. YOU THINK HER BROTHERS DIDNT HIT HER ASS BACK WHEN SHE HIT HIM WITH THAT BOTTLE? SHE IS OUT OF CONTROL. FIGHTING IS ALL SHE KNOW, AND ACCORDING TO THIS REPORT, SHE'S HAD PRACTICE PROVOKING MEN TO FIGHT HER. SHE JUST MAD BECAUSE SHE COULDNT KICK CHRIS' ASS. ROFLMAO!!! IGNORANT HEFFA.
OK I WASN'T GOING TO COMMENT ON THIS [EXPLETIVE] BUT SOME OF YOU JUST PISS ME OFF. . . 1ST TO THE PERSON THAT SAID "HE BEAT HER SO BAD THE NEIGHBORS COULD HEAR HER SCREAMIN". . . HOW THE FU%K DO U KNOW WHERE U THERE DO U LIVE IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD? 2ND, TO EVERYBODY SAYING THAT THEY FOUGHT THERE SIBLINGS, WELL ME TOO BUT HOW MUCH FU&KING RAGE DO U HAVE TO CONSUME TO HIT UR BRO/SIS WITH A FU&KING BOTTLE I MEAN REALLY. THAT FACT IS NONE OF US WERE THERE & THERE WAS ONLY 3 PEOPLE IN THAT CAR HIM HER & GOD. SO WE ALL INCLUDING FRED NEED TO SHUT THE F&*K UP. . .