: It's a well known secret in the gospel world that many of the most successful artists are closet homosexuals. But it now appears as if one of gospel music's most famous artists has just come out the closet. MediaTakeOut.com has learned that gospel singer Tonex appears to be admitting that he's a gay man in his latest song!!!.
And if you think we may be reading too much into the lyrics, think again. In the song, which is entitled The Naked Truth, the award-winning gospel singer raps about being "truthful" to the world. At one point during the expletive-laden song, Tonex appears to be coming clean with his sexuality - he sings, "I did it, I made it ...[I'm] the genius, the faggot, the weirdo, the hobo, the homo, the magnet."
And there's more. In addition to apparently admitting his sexuality, Tonex also admitted to being molested by a preacher when he was six years old.
If Tonex, who is currently the pastor of a church in San Diego, is indeed coming out of the closet - he would be the most popular gospel artist since Donnie McClurken to admit to homosexuality. Since arriving on the scene in 2004, Tonex has been extraordinarily successful. He was nominated for a Grammy for "Best Soul Gospel Album" and won six Stellar Awards including "Artist of the Year" in 2004.
We've included excerpts from the song below. Parental discretion is advised.
Developing...
What is wrong with Tonex! I had a strange feeling that something had gone haywire with Tonex, because on his MySpace.com page, he has a white man under his friends list that favors Marilyn Manson! What is this dude doing in Tonex's friends list? Can ya'll explain that to me?
Tonex, has the fame and recognition gone to your head? God accepts us all as we are, but you sure look like you have crossed over to the otherside and you know what that side is!
For those who aren't familiar with Tonex, listen to "Introducing Tonex". That cd was initially an indie release but was so popular it caused a signing frenzy among the record companies. He has produced numerous gospel acts as well. Tonex is divorced. Don't know if he's ***. Never had relations with a dude, not with Tonex, and have no plans to. Tonex always prided himself however on being shocking and showing the listening public they should not judge a book by it's cover. However, I cannot see Tonex explaining the profanity. I hope Tonex has a good explanation (for God).
*** IS THE NEW TREND, YOU *** DID NOT KNOW... WE TAKEN OVER FOR THE WORLD ORDER!!!!
IF THIS REALLY SHOCKS ANYONE,THEN YOU HAVE BEEN SOME BLIND *** PEOPLE. HE LIKES TO WEAR WOMEN PANTS AND TAKES LONGER THAN KIMORA LEE GETTING HIS HAIR DONE, DID YALL REALLY FIND THIS SHOCKING?
HE IS A GREAT SINGER AND HIS HITS GOD HAS NOT FORGOT AND RESTORATION ARE MY JAMS. HE IS JUST A BIT OVER THE TOP WITH THIS NEW LOOK BUT HEY, IF THIS IS WHAT HE HAS TO DO, THEN BIG UPS TO TONEX!!!!!!!
I love Tonex! Tonex was never in the closet. Everyone knew. Even in the days with Toni, Tone, Tony group. he has a Parliament Funkadelic thing going on. Are they ***? If so, so what. Unless you are sleeping with them there are bigger things going on than who is *** or not (that's for males and females). I don't like all ***, just like I don't like all people, but it still doesn't matter to me.
@BUTTBREATHBEYONCE...
God hates the SIN not the Sinner - ** Like im sure he hates the sin of ignorance **
Don’t know who he is but just curious ladies and gents... What does his sexual preference have to do with him as an artist? If as a society we shun artists for their sexual preferences... HELL - we would have to turn the radios and T.V.'s off!!!... WhatAya GonnaDo?
NOTHING THAT PEOPLE DO SHOCKS ME ANY MORE!*** LOOK AT MASE.I WAS SADDEN TO HEAR ABOUT ANYBODY BEING *** AND YOU'RE A MAN OF THE CLOTH!FIRST OF ALL THEY CAN STILL SERVE GOD,WE ALL DINT COME PERFECT1HE PROBABLY CHOSE TO COME OUT THROUGH HIS MUSIC CAUSE IM PRETTY SURE HIS CONGREGATION KNOWS.JUST LIKE HIS FANS!ONE LOOK AT THIS MAN AND YOU CAN SEE HE IS FLAMING!ONLY PRINCE CAN ROCK HIS HAIR LIKE THAT AND THEY SAID HES *** ./BUT TRUST ME PRINCE GET MORE *** THEN A LITTLE BIT!
I personally think it is a cry for "help". Maybe the hype of shocking looks for a first US Gospel CD was marketable as an initial introduction to the gospel genre. However, when tracks are ridden with profanity and worldly phrases it has ceased being "good news" as the gospel is; and it has debased its contents of that of secularism. The gospel culture has suffered a major setback as more artist abandon their "spiritual" roots of the lure and power of crossing over to platinum status. "everything that is poplular is not necessarily right and everthing that is right is not necessarily poplar.
who says God don't like ***. There is a whole list of things God don't like but I don't see people listing them everytime somebody sins.
"God don't like ***." "*** are going to hell." "These are the last days."
Y'all want to jump on the *** each & every time. There has been *** on earth since before the first scripture was written. The earth is still spinnin & we're all still here. So what he's a fudgepacker. Who're people to say he's going to hell? And personally I doubt *** are burning in hell. If they are there's probably a disco ball hanging from the ceiling and everyone's having a great time.
It would be hilarious if God decided to include another chapter to the bible that forgave all *** but man in his ignorance didn't write it down. Then all y'all judging M-Fo's would be the true sinners.
So when MTO post another *** rumor can we stick to the topic of *** and leave YO religion out of it. It really is tiring and predictable what some of you people are going to say. So what he's a gospel singer. That's no excuse for some of the aforementioned comments. If y'all would be more accepting of the *** (when I say y'all I mean y'all stuck up religious folks) then they wouldn't be hiding out in the churches, in fake loveless marriages, trying to front being something they're not... straight.
WHAT KIND OF CHURCH DO HE GO TO??ALL THAT CURSING IS SO UNNECESSARY ,HE COULD OF GOT HIS ANGER OUT BY TALKING TO A PSYCHIATRIST BEFORE THIS "GANGSTA CHURCH SONG".PEOPLE IS JUST NOT RIGHT ANYMORE,YOU REALLY HAVE TO BE CAREFUL WHO YOU LOOK UP TO!AND I KNOW AINT NOBODY IN HIS CONGREGATION BUT A BUNCH OF LITTLE *** BOYS TOO!HE SHOULD TRY AND GET HELP AND DONT USE SOMEONE RAPING YOU AS A CRUTCH TO BE ***.EVEN THOUGH IT HAPPENS.HE KNOWS THE BIBLE AND GOD WILL DEAL WITH RAPIST, MURDERS AND THE REST OF THE HORRILBLE SINNERS OF THIS WORLD!
First I would like to address that the song "Make me Over" does not talk about *** in anyway. It is a general song for one who had a relationship with God and may have sinned and does not like the present state that they are in. The song is asking for God to restore the relationship and make over the individual by purification and renewing their mind. Sin is anything not is not obedient to the will of God. So lying is a sin. It does not mean that he was coming out of the closet. Second lets clear it up that Donnie McClurkin has been delivered from *** (tell the whole story). He was also raped as a child. Next, where is the proof that this is Tonex's vocals? And if this is Tonex, for the Christians on the page, he needs prayer not criticism.
@whatwhatwhat YOU MADE ME LAUGH OUT LOUD!!! - BUT YOU HAVE VALID POINTS - IT IS A SAD SITUTATION THAT BLACK WOMEN HAVE THE HIGHEST RATE OF A.I.D.S. IN AMERICA - BLACK MEN ARE SOO AFFRAID OF WHAT THEIR PEERS WILL SA/DO TO THEM THAT THEY SNEEK AROUND DOWN LOWIN AND HURT THE WOMEN THAT THEY CLAIM TO LOVE - AND WANT TO BE WITH WHEN REALLY - THEY WANT TO BE WITH A MAN. THERE ARE SOOOO MANY !! IT IS SCARY FOR HETROSEXUAL WOMEN!!!
WHOOPS - TYPO !!
@whatwhatwhat YOU MADE ME LAUGH OUT LOUD!!! - BUT YOU HAVE VALID POINTS - IT IS A SAD SITUTATION THAT BLACK WOMEN HAVE THE HIGHEST RATE OF A.I.D.S. IN AMERICA - BLACK MEN ARE SOO AFFRAID OF WHAT THEIR PEERS WILL SAY/DO TO THEM THAT THEY SNEEK AROUND DOWN LOWIN AND HURT THE WOMEN THAT THEY CLAIM TO LOVE - AND WANT TO BE WITH WHEN REALLY - THEY WANT TO BE WITH A MAN. THERE ARE SOOOO MANY !! IT IS SCARY FOR HETROSEXUAL WOMEN!!!
Good morning everyone...peeps...cuzins and all! Can you guys answer something for me. I am not a religious person but I am spiritual. I believe that God knows all before anything. I don't understand why people make *** the worst sin of them all. I don't understand the whole *** thing. I guess because I do have *** friends and some of them are really good people. I just thougth a sin..is a sin..is a sin. If there is a woman at the supermarket stealing food for her hungry family and a *** man it's the same sin isn't it? I guess I'm just a bit on the confused side. So is there no saving of the souls of a ***? Somebody please explain. Maybe I'm not getting it. And I'm truly not trying to be funny. Oh and happy belated father's day to everyone whose a dad! I miss my dad.
** SQUINTING MY EYES ** ALL THIS HATE - EVERYONE HERE IS TALKING ABOUT GOD IS GOD PROUD OF YOU ALL’S CONDEMNATION OF THIS MAN? ONLY HE CAN JUDGE – AND HE IS JUDGING ALL OF YOU THAT ARE HIS CHILDREN, WHICH ARE SPEAKING HARSHNESS AND CRITISUM FOR THIS MAN - WHO WHETHER YOU LIKE IT OR NOT- IS A CHILD OF GOD... DONT THROW STONES FOLKS...CAUSE THEY MAY BOOMARANG AND KNOCK THE HELL OUT OF YOU. LOOK AT HOW EVERYBODY REACTED TO KIRK - AND HIS PORN... THAT IS JUST A SHAVING OF ICE OFF OF THE ICEBREGE... BUT I STILL JAM "HE REIGNS" EVERY MORNIN.... OUR GOD IS A LOVING, FORGIVIN GOD - HE WOULD NOT BE HAPPY WITH ALL THIS ANGER HATE AND NAME CALLIN....
@RUSTY HONEY – THE LAST THING I WILL EVER DO IS OSTRACIZE ANYONE FOR SOMETRHING AS HARMLESS AS THEIR SEXUALITY. THAT IS A BONE YOU WILL HAVE TO PICK WITH 75% OF THIS BOARD-AND NOT WITH ME. I SAID …” BLACK MEN ARE SOO AFFRAID OF WHAT THEIR PEERS WILL SAY/DO TO THEM” I AM POINTTING OUT THAT FACT THE IF BLACKS WOULD ALLOW ***/BI-SEXUALS/TRANDS GENDERS TO LIVE IN “THEIR” SOCITY IN PEACE… HETEROSEXUAL WOMEN MAY NOT HAVE TO PERISH. THERE IS NOTING WRONG WITH WHAT YOU DO
BUT HAVING TO HIDE IT B/C OF FEAR OF REJECTION AND BEING OSTRACIZED… THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH THAT….
I'm not against ***, but if Tonex is claiming to be a gospel artist, he should not trifle with God's name like that. Singing about "Personal Jesus" and then parading around looking like he's fresh off the Rainbow Parade float. Nope, that's just plain wrong. He needs to stop fronting; if he likes men (and I do believe that he does) then lay off the gospel bandwagon and go fully secular. And LOCKSTRESS, ALL sin is equal; stealing, raping, lying, ***, gluttony, etc.
LOL @ Shirly Ceasar addicted to Crystal Meth Comment OMG you silly.
I am and was raised in the church and love my gospel music. Finding out that someone is ***, especially a man is not even that serious. Trust me on this with all the fake pastors stealing, fornicating and other nonsense someone being *** is minut!
YOUR ARE RIGHT LOCKSTRESS
NO ONE SIN IS GREATER THAN THE OTHER
I HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT "IF" THERE WOULD BE AN UNFORGIVABLE SIN - IT WOULD BE
TAKING ANOTHER GOD OVER OUR LORD AN SAVIOR. NOW I AM SURE THAT SOME ONE HERE WILL JUMP UP MY AZZ AND CORRECT ME... BUT THAT IS WHAT I WAS TOLD BY MY PRAYER PARTNER.
HauteCoutureDiva,
God could give a S/H/I/T if your *** or not. God is just and observer and really has on hand in what happens here on rock. With a whole universe to manage. *** is nothing of concern.
I dont know why, But I expect more from African-Americans. We are few and numbers as is. And we want to turn our backs to our own for something as simple as being ***. We should know better. Be bible kept us in slavery for over 400yrs. And you people still continue to stay on the same path.
Think and live for yourselves.
4 Lockstress: '...A sin is a sin...' *** is an abomination in God's eyes (Leviticus). I agree we should not bash ***. And more men period, especailly black men need to come out if they are down low. At least protect your girl from the virus. Lastly, if I had a choice between two sinners to hang with, a *** or a thief, the thief would have the best chance of ripping me off. I don't hate ***, but I don't hang with. Birds of a feather fock...errr, I mean flock...:)
@strongblacksista...I'm ok. Hope you had a great weekend!! hi email2michael...happy belated daddy's day!! Hope you got spoiled:) @holdmydrinkbitch...I didn't understand you're comment. Being religious has nothing to do with the level of spirituality one has. You can quote the bible all you want but if you're heart is hateful then it's all for nothing. Were you trying to insult me? I don't get you're question regarding my belief and my faith? And to everyone else thanks for the comments. I got some clarity. See...a closed mouth don't get fed. I am not too proud to ask for help...now somebody gimme a dollar! (just joking)
Im with SexyTexan, his sexality has nothing to do with him as an artist. To each his own. I cant judge. Im not the one to judge even if he is ***. long as he knos who he is and whos he is thats all that matters.
and the fact that no one sin is greater than another is true. thats why i try not to judge, I have my own sin of lust when i see LL to worry about
iketernr
And when was the last time you and God sat down and had a conversation about the do's and dont's of life? Your delusional if you think the words in the bible come straight from "God". That book has been cut, pasted, added in, left out, so much over the centuries just to control the masses. And you wont take 10 minutes to look out side what you been "BrainWashed" to belive.
*** is perfectly normal. Society is the one that has the issues.
@IKETERNR .... JUST CURIOUS... THE BIRDS OF A FEATHER THING... DOES THAT MEAN THAT IF YOU HANG WITH A *** THEN YOU ARE A ***... OR IF YOU HANG WITH A THIEF YOU ARE A THIEF? OR IF YOU HANG WITH ONE OR THE OTHER YOU WILL BECOME ONE OR THE OTHER? ... IF THAT IS THE CASE THEN.... IT WOULD HAVE BEEN ALREADY IN YOUR NATURE. YOU WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN SO EASILY INCLINED TO FOLLOW THAT PATH... IF YOU WERE NOT ALREADY ON YOUR WAY DOWN THAT ROAD? SO THE BIRDS THING IS NOT SUCH A GOOD COMPARISON….
I JUST EXPECT MORE FROM AFRICAN-AMERICANS!!!
After how long Christianity and the bible kept us enslaved seems we would have more decent on the religion and its "Abominations".
Out of all the people in the world we should be the last to outcast and people for being who they are and cant change.
I expect more from black america.
You all keep playing with God. I really pity you. When you all wake up in hell, do not be surprised. ------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------------------------ FOLKS SHO CLAIM TO KNOW ALL ABOUT THE QUALIFICATIONS FOR HELL... SINCE YOU BEEN THERE AND KNOW WHAT YOU HAVE TO DO TO GET THERE.... TELL US ALL ABOUT IT... SELF RICHEOUSNESS IS A HELL OF A THING.
To Hold my drink... I can only use the tools given me for my faith and what I have gleaned throught he years. I talk to God all of the time and pray that I make the right decisions. I use the Word as a tool and I do not think one can use John 3:1k and then say other scriptures are irrelevant.
To sexytexan: As for my preference, I stated I would hang with a thief IF I Had to make achoice. I don't condone *** or thievery. Then again, I have other issues and cannot judge anyone so I do what I do and keep stepping. And who said *** was normal?! We all were born from a woman. I don't think men can have kids yet. Beofre artificial insemination y'all know how we got here. Relax, enjoy your views. It's alright. (And I left that fock together on the blog becuz I misspelled and left it).
@HauteCoutureDiva
And you have? No. You follow what you been "Told". Look at if for what it is. Social propaganda.
I dont need to be told what to belive. I have a brain and mind that god gave me and she wanted me to have it. Im going to use it in way i want. Not what some book that is 85% out of date and fake tells me too.
Wake up.
"and you keep talking about you expect more from Black America??? Dude, it's the black men ON THE DOWN LOW infecting the BLACK AMERICAN women with AIDS. Or are you clueless when it comes to that fact too??? Get your head out of the clouds already." HautecoutureDiva
Check-it the reason why these men go underground is because of people like on these boards. By no means am I saying they should. But look at it. look what people say about *** on just this page alone. And you think its easy to come out being ***.
This is something that people cant change. Being *** its in you. You cant change it. You cant change it. You cant change it. No matter how hard you try or lie. Do you understand that?
I see the world in a far more greater lens then you. Your narrow and shallow. The world is Mostly all gray. Not to much black and white.
I love Tonex, and have been a fan of his for a long time. I think just like all of us we have demons we have to deal with, he's no different from any of us. Through prayer he can overcome his demons, like Donnie McClurklin. I mean look at Kirk Franklin, he came out that he has an addiction to porn. Someone above said God hates ***. I don't know if God hates anybody, we are His own creation, but I believe He hates the act of *** and anyother sin. Pray for Tonex! Just my thoughts.
To hold my drink ***
I an only assume you are ***. I hate when *** try to compare the black experience with the *** experience. Yes we all have been persecuted however I cannot cloack my blackness and be treated fairly in public. A *** man can act straight and not be demeaned because of his true inclinations. And I am sick of deez dudes being 'whassup' Monday thru Thursday then 'how u doin' on th weekends, carrying the virus to our women and destroying our most valuable treasure... the love of a black woman for her black man. And when you folks get an interview with God, report it to MTO. And when you have a heaven or hell to send me to, extend an invitation.
ACTUALLY THE CRAZY LOOK IS HIS OLD LOOK FROM WHEN HE FIRST CAME ON THE GOSPEL SCENE. THE HANDSOME SUAVE LOOK IS WHAT HE LOOKS LIKE NOW. I'VE ALWAYS SPECULATED THAT THERE WAS A HIGHER LEVEL FEMININITY IN HIM THAN NORMAL, BUT IT DOESN'T MATTER. HE'S SINGING THE WORD OF GOD. AND THE MAN CAN SIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII IING HIS *** OF FOR REAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@iketernr
Playing for both teams is wrong and lying and deceving people is wrong. This Society has pushed black *** men to go underground. Im *** have no same in it. Could give a F/U/C/*** what the next man or the bible has to say. I was born this way and wont change.
But social wise the outcast of people has never worked in society. It has always caused anger and revolution. *** will have equal rights. Just a matter of time. And god could really give a s/h/i/t if two dudes or chicks bone each other or not. ;)
to holdmydrink... Not persecuting anyone. We all need to live together. However it is what it is. Blacks persecuted for being black, jews persecuted for being jewish, Serbs persecuted, *** persected. Racism will always be a part of culture. If we chose not to support the arts industries (music, movies, etc) we all would not watch or listen to anything. We have our views an d opinions. Back to the point Tonex is a genius. He has issues as we all do but to listen to his music does not indoctrinate us to his lifestyle.
Wow. I normally don't comment on these topics but I had to say that Holdmydrinkbitch made 1 of the few arguments that I have felt/stated since I was a teenager and learned a lot more about the Bible.
The Bible was written by man. My biggest issue is the fact that it has several versions which at various points in time have exclude/included stories/gospels/verses. I've struggled with fellowship because I've NEVER believed that I needed a middle man to put me in touch with my spirituality and I place no greater importance on the word of a man standing in a pulpit who is a sinner himself.
Ultimately I do not believe it is in fact normal to have *** with someone of the same *** nor do I believe that anywhere along the DNA chain is there a gene for ***/heterosexuality.
As long as I'm not involved with you sexually, I'm not concerned with who you are sleeping with. I really wish people could openly be who they are. Becuase whether I agree with it, like it or dislike it, I'll definately respect you.
@1IslandGirl Ultimately I do not believe it is in fact normal to have *** with someone of the same *** nor do I believe that anywhere along the DNA chain is there a gene for ***/heterosexuality.
Thats different. You based your veiw on your education and personal feelings. Not what a book told you to belive. I have respect for people that belive being *** is wrong. But you make that choice. Not the bible.
Do you think they "GET IT" islandgirl?
Holdmydrinkbitch - YOU LET EM GET TO YOU... AND YOU GOT ON THEIR LEVEL... NOW THEY WILL POTRAY YOU AS THE ANGRY PERSECUTED ***... INTEAD OF THE INTELLEGENT H U M A *** BEING THAT YOU ARE... ** THINK IM GONNA BOUNCE... THE CUSSIN AND NAME CALLIN IS NOT WHAT A DISCUSSION BOARD IS ABOUT**
WE AS BLACKS SHOULD BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO ONE ANOTHER AND RESPECT EACH OTHERS VIEWS WITH OUT GOING THERE... WE GOT TO AGREE TO DISAGREE... HOW DO YOU THINGK THAT OTHER RACES HAVE COME BEHIND US AND OVER POWERED US- IM SURE THAT THEY ASIAN’S AND INDIAN’S DONT ALL AGREE WITH EACH OTHER... BUT THEY SURE AS HELL GET ALLOT ACCOMPLISHED - WITH EACH OTHER.
to 1islandgirl
When a person attends church or reads the word, we all take from it our personal viewpoints. I already know the preacher, being human, has issues. I do not worship the man of God I worship God as I view Him. The Bible is the same. An account of events before Jesus and after. The basic thing moms always to me was to never argue politics or religion. Everybody has their views. The issue was Tonex' music and this scandal is doing just what Tonex wanted it to... Introducing Tonex to a new audience and reacquainting the old... Story developing...
to sexy texan
I take offense to the remark that blacks cut each other up and cannot get ahead because of it. The races you mention all have had interacial turmoil but OUR government gave them subsidies to start businesses and reinvent themselves. I want to see black busibess owners in our communities however when I get ga sI se an arab. When I get hair care products I see Koreans. When I go to a package store you see the same... Jews received reparations and Japanese too. Blacks got some Jim Crow and lynchings. Even now our media is lynching us. But we are strong people. Don't believe me, go out in the southern sunshine and walk around an hour. Then realize our ancestors worked in that heat all day and into thenight. We are not perfect but we are black... and I am proud of it.
@Holdmydrinkbitch...Unfortunately not. The chuch is the backbone of the black community. So often when anyone dares to question anything associated with it and/or it's writings that in and of itself is painful. You're asking people to question their beliefs and the way that they were raised.
I was raised Methodist, and have both Catholic and Baptist family members. I was lucky enough to have parents who let me decide for myself as a teenager what route I wanted to take. As I did a little more digging I had serious issues with what I was reading. Liek I said too many left out passages, revisions, comparing me to chattel, etc. But I also believed in treating others respectfully, being appreciative of the body that I walk around in and the air that I breathe. I also believe in a higher power and that I will ultimately be judged by what I contributed to my existence.
AGAIN, I'm not sleeping with you so I'm not concerned. You're not threatening me or my family.
At the end of the day though I am not threat
This wasn't a transformation from "back in the day". Tonex originated with the crazy hair and lyrics. He "transformed" into the suit and tie, low haircut look years later when he became a pastor. That look is not new. I don't know if he's *** or not and I don't care. He's a musical genius not far behind the likes of Prince. Nowhere in the bible does it say you have to be perfect to serve God. Everybody is struggling with something, and if you say you're not, you're lying to yourself. The bible says ALL have sinned and FALL *** of the glory of God (not have fallen ***). Every day is a growth process. I would hope that some the folks on here claiming to be Christians and having it all together would just pray for the man instead of trying to shred his character.
@iketernr. I respect your response. As I stated I was compelled to respond because the "issue" at hand for me, hence my nod to Holdmydrinkbitch, was a comment that I agreed with and directed my comment specifically at the blogger.
I don't care whether or not this person is *** or straight, I'm not sleeping with him. I'm going to borrow a line from an ex regarding the 3 F's:
"If you aint: -*** -feeding or -financing me, then you aaint got s.h.i.t. to say"
it works both ways.
the shocker isn't him being ***--like we didnt already know that? & for the record, brothas in punk gear is just too weak & very white. Is that how he;s gonna be dressed on sundays giving his sermons? but the shocker is that he said "F" & "B" in a gospel song! thats bold.
& for the people who ONLY want to pull out their Bibles when the issue of *** comes up but are dead silent when the issue of heterosexual fornication, babies out of wedlock, home wrecking, questionable child rearing, drugs & other scandals that rock the str8 world on a daily basis--i have this to say: its easy to sit in judgement of another who is struggling with something YOU DO NOT STRUGGLE with.
But like Matthew 7:3-5 says "Why do you look at the speck of sawdust in your brother's eye and pay no attention to the plank that is in your own eye? How can you say to your brother, 'Let me take the speck out of your eye,' when all the time there is a plank in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye.
In other words--deal with your own sin, handle yours before you can think about trying to handle mine. you are struggling with something your own self, it may not be *** but its something, you can best beleive that. you are also a sinner and are doing things that are unGodly everyday...so keep it real.
Now this is utterly ridulous!! I want to know who ordained him and how did he become a preacher! Not because of his sexality but the cussing! What is "black gospel" coming to when this guy wins awards and stuff when he has lyrics like this. This is just another sneaky way the devil has used our youth! WTF is going on here!
@iketernr - IM SORRY IF I OFFENDED YOU... THAT WAS NOT MY INTENTION... YOU ARE RIGHT- WE AS BLACKS DO GET LYNCHED BY THE MEDIA...THEY DON'T RESPECT US AT ALL THAT IS WHY IT IS SOOO IMPORTANT TO RESPECT EACH OTHER. YOU ARE RIGHT AGAIN - THERE IS INTERACIAL TURMOIL.. BUT THEY MANAGE TO LIVE TOGETHER AND PROSPER….WE DON’T …. I WILL SAY THIS.. IN MY EXPERIENCE AND EVEN IN READING THIS BOARD.. WE ARE SO QUICK TO DISCARD ONE ANOTHER... JUST BECAUSE WE DONT BELIEVE/AGREE/UNDERSTAND... THAT HAS GOT TO STOP…. OUR GOVENRMENT… THAT WILL NEVER CHANGE….WE CANT CHANGE THE GOVERNMENT ***… BUT UNITING… WILL MAKE THEM SIT UP AND PAY ATTENTION… THE LAST THING WHITE AMERICA WANTS TO DO IS SEE BLACK AMERICA UNITING AND RESPECTION ONE ANOTHER. I STEP INTO THIS TEXAS HEAT EVERY DAY AND I PASS BY THE TREES WITH “STRANGE FRUIT” EVERY DAY… SO I KNOW MORE THAN EVER WHAT OUR ANSECTORS *** TO
FOR THE YOUNGSTERS – "Strange Fruit" is a harrowing portrayal of the lynching of a black man in the American South AGAIN.. I DIDNT MEAN TO OFFEND YOU -
NEWSFLASH!!! *** PEOPLE GO TO CHURCH EVERY SINGLE SUNDAY!
Also *** folk sing in the choir, work on the usher board, lead devotion, preach!!!
Whats the big deal here? And for you all saying he is going to hell and god dont like it well god probably dont like your comments and god probably dont like some of the sins you commit but no one is perfect!!
I agree with those who say that Tonex's music is for shock value, I think his lyrics reach out to the masses. I mean when Kirk Franklin first came out - the older generation was like "What is this devil music." So the same with Tonex, hence, SHOCK VALUE!
You know if he does has *** lyrics in his music does that necessarily mean that he is ***? I'm asking. Could it be possible that as a preacher he has heard many testimonies and stories of how people are *** and they want to change? Could he have turned those stories into songs to reach out to that community? Again, I'm asking.
His myspace page is definitely a place where he goes to air out his thoughts, and to me he is really conflicted, but I think that maybe he is going through a spiritual test. Maybe he is a valley. Have you ever been tested by God, it is quite an uncomforable feeling. It's like a spiritual war between your flesh and your spirt. Its a hurting thing. If you can't relate you best prepare yourself because there will be a time where we all will be tested.
I don't know I think Bigirl said it right when she said bottom line is he needs prayer, as we all do. ME INCLUDED!!!
MY thoughts. Heaven
#1 Listening is clearly needed here People,The only thing he admitted to was being molested by a pastor. He is angry about people calling him names like, ***, ***, etcetera.He did not admit to being ***,however he admitted to someone else performing an *** act on him as a child.Now , Why aren't you trying to find this man who did that to a child.Instead of attacking a man who went through that kind of abuse and like he said in the song , He made it. God knows (The Naked Truth) P.S. Wicked People need to stop judging others, May the Wrath of YHWH fall on Liars of the Men and Woman of God, Immediately . Then you will learn, know & grow
Make me over, ministered even to my spirit. I think it is a song that alot of people can relate to. If it was a cry for help for Tonex, you could really hear the turmoil and the hurt he is going through.
But isn't that something we should all ask GOD, LORD MAKE ME OVER??
I don't mean to tie up this blog, but I just want to tell a quick testimony then I'm out. But I can relate to the turmoil going on in Tonex's life (sorry for assuming) but I was taking seminary courses, I stayed in my word, was active in intercessory prayer (I love to pray and will pray for whomever requests it); stayed before God as often as I could, active in church, and to top it off taking seminary courses. It was my desire to share the word of God through preaching or however GOD used me. I have never wanted anything so badly in my life. My life was to serve GOD (and it still is). In doing all of this, the rug was pulled underneath me. I'm telling you what I experienced I can't even begin to explain to you.
Out of the blue, but I know in my heart it was God's test saying "Okay you want to do this for me, you are telling you will go anywher I send you...Okay let's see if this is true." I became homeless for a few months (unnecessarily)with my son none-the-less; my relationship with my parents was fast going haywire for no reason at all; my finances. WHAATT? I felt like I was in the valley looking up and constantly praying for my father to pull me up. I felt as if I were losing my mind. I envisioned myself as a baby holding my hands up waiting for thier loving dad to pick them up and make it better, but only it wasn't easy.
Well let me tell you I came out of it and I bounced back bigger than ever, my own home, my car is paid off, my family (well that still needs working on) but in God's own time. But here's the catch I'm conflicted. My relationship with God is quite different now, I am scared of GOD, can you believe that?? I wanted to do His will so badly and I felt as though I bruised in my storm. My flesh says, Heaven don't pray, why? He'll only allow you to go through that again) but my spirit says GIRL YOU MISS YOUR DADDY (GOD) just repent and go back he'll accept you. I don't pray like I used to (and that was my thing, you heard!) I don't read my word, I don't go to church, I started cursing (eeck). I AM ABSOLUTELY SCARED OF GOD. So I'm saying maybe this is something TONEX is going through. Just got to pray for Him and while you at for me too!
Any question holla at me at Heavenkissed@blackplanet.com
One thing people are never going to agree on is politics and Religion. I think that if you are a religious person and you belive in the Bible, then continue praising God to the best of your ability. And if you are for whatever a non-beliver, thats your choice and no one should try and make that person feel bad about it. I think thats the great thing about God is that he gives us the choice to make our own decision, and he loves us regardless.
You know whats funny how everybody saying he's going to hell, well what about the other deadly sins in the bible if we commit those are we going to hell 2? anyway who cares nowadaysbeing *** is the ***...I mean everybody acting like thats the way 2 be..it's sad to me because REAL *** PPL just don't wake up and decide they want to be *** it's the greedy ppl that want it any and everyway possible ..and that's how diseases spread..anyway WHO THE FUUCK CARES ABOUT HIM HE IS A Z LISTER..I just hate it when ppl uses religion as an excuse hey we all going to hell if we don't repent and also there are alot of sins we refuse to stop doing, ya'll just think about that for a minute..***, DRUGS, ADULTRY, ETC....LMAO 4 REAL
@ Heaven
PREACH! we all go through, but that is what makes us stronger, and in the process we see the beauty of the Lord. If the lord told you to preach, preach you must, otherwise you might find yourself back in the situation you were in before. Everything happens for a reason. Even though we don't like the tests and trials we go through, they are for our good!
Wow, after reading all of the comments I thought I would put my piece into it. As a christian myself God gives us the choice to do whatever we want. It may not be right, but it is up to us to determine that. No I do not think that *** is right and will continue with that until I die, but Im not gonna judge because I struggle with many sins myself. One being fornication and now having my 2nd child out of wedlock. NO I have no problems saying that because the bible says if thou shall confess thy sins, you will be forgiven and I believe I have so as for Tonex, I think if he is struggling with that he is trying to let the world know it is not all peaches and cream. He thought that part of his life was over but it is coming back to test him and he might have failed. Like someone stated it is spiritual warfare. I didn't think I would go back to *** before marriage and I thought I was ok but here I am again. And lastly, our job as believers is to witness to the unbelievers about christ and if people don't accept it then that's between them and God, as long as you did what you are put on this earth to do then you should be fine.
Peace and Blessings to everyone on here!!!
Oh and if I am wrong for listening to what that "fake" bible has to say than I would rather be wrong and make it to heaven than not believe it and in the end find out that it really was right..Because I do believe for the most part that it is correct because the acronym (if that's what its called) for B.I.B.L.E. is Basic Instructions Before Leaving Earth. Whatever you are going through the answer is there. Yes you may have to find a version that you can understand but if you trully study you can compare and see that it says the same things just more on your level.
@buttbreathbeyonce: lol here we go so how do u know what god likes are u our savior reborn let me know....pure foolishness!!!so i assume eevrything u do is liked by god huh....with a screenname like buttbreath beyonce i highly doubt it.... please.... kick rocks!!!and all this the devil is this the devil is that yall are the real wierdo's here with your over exxagerations of religion no matter who u r sleeping with if u got a good heart it'll never be denied so all u bigot uppety church ned to get over it
@missamerica1: thnks u sweetheart a REAL GENUINE good soul dont go around pointing the finger and giving judgments im a *** man with a big heart im loved by everyone involved in my life and who knows me i treat everyone regardless of who or what with kindess and dignity i carry myself respectively and i live life that way and i know when my days are done here heaven awaits me regardless of what all u bigots and hypocrites believe. boy id liek to see the look on some of yall faces that day do u realize ur preaching hate more than intolerance more than anything and thats not what christianity is about
@ bashfulchick314
The difference is you don't commit the sin just becasue you know the lord is merciful and he will forgive you. If you are struggling withe your flesh, but in your heart you really want to stop. The lord will forgive you, and help you overcome your struggles. You have to want to change!
I have to agree with VIRGO & Holdmydrinkbitch:
Christianity is a trick of the Jews. They gave man Christianity and they don't even believe in Christ.
Christians put their faith in the bible but have never really read it beyond the verses that the preacher have them jumping back and forth to.
I read the bible front to back at age 15 and was DONE WITH IT. Guess God had other plans for me.
Don't forget it was Christians that enslaved you black man and put that book in our hand.
Here's one of my favorite verses:
"Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones" Psalms 137:9
Ok, now the bible is telling people to kill their kids......OK!
If you listen to the entire song, which can be found on Tonex's MySpace page, you will ascertain that he did not admit to being ***. Instead, he states that there are many RUMORS out there that suggest that he is ***. Near the end of the song, he exclaims, more than once, that he is not ***.
I don't know Tonex. In fact, this is my first time hearing of him. As a former attorney for DCF, though, I'm not concerned about Tonex being *** or not. I'm concerned about the pastor's (mentioned in Tonex's song) sexual molestation of our most weak and innocent, our children.
wow Heaven...speechless... all that happening for no reason at all will scare me too...
I usually dont get into these God debates because I don't beleive in the institution of church for one, but I feel like this a person's personal relationship with God, because I do believe he/she exist, and I feel like things happen for a reason and God will not give anyone a situation they can not handle, I think most of the time God put us through things just so we can call on him... I dunno sometimes I confused myself but I do agree with praying, and creating a personal relationship with him, and don't worry about what everyone else says, its always between you and God, everything else is neither here or there, and I agree from checking out his myspace page this brother is really having some issues he is dealing with and his song states he isn't *** so I don't know what MTO is talking about, as for the Bible, I have read a little not much, but when I do read I always keep in mind that man wrote the bible...
What's up standard and Prettyboi!
Some of the people in here judging him are are fornicators, remember just because you are straight does not make you better than anyone else, if some of you read the bible god does not like fornicators eithier why judge other people when some of you are sinning just like him if he is ***, we are all imperfect remember that.
Hey Standard. Yes it looks like we missed alot. I have been reading all the posts and this was a really good debate and only someone with an OPEN mind can see valid points on both sides. I just know that I love GOD and I pray that I make it into his KINGDOM when I die.
@Prettyboi: AMEN!
NOW, A LITTLE OFF TOPIC: Here's one thing that preachers always say that now because I have experienced it, it makes me wonder: 'The only sin that God doesn't forgive is the sin of suicide. They will go to hell'. I have heard this many times during sermons. They also say that 'children are pure (meaning without sin). So, If a child "kills" themselves, do they go to HELL?
this is sad, and it hurts me to see that he has gone this route.. i honestly believe that he was tired of alot of things and just had to breakout i have been there dealing with the church and the people but i have found my way back and i believe he will too.. i just think he is hurting right now and the only thing we can do is pray for him and not judge.. what he needs is love and i mean alot of love.. and believe i will still listen to his old cds because he is a dope singer...
Its really sad that you all have fallen for this story that MTO has put out.... this man is married with kids and if you listen to the song, he is naming all the THINGS HE HAS EVER BEEN CALLED.... he is not saying that he is *** in any way... he even calls out the preacher who touched him when he was 6 yrs old... TONEX has brought just as much to the gospel scene for young people as kirk franklin has... please listen to his CD if you really wanna know who TONEX is and dont go with the caption that MTO has put out!
WHOEVER THE *** WROTE THIS IS A *** IDIOT.....AND NEEDS TO ACTUALLY LISTEN TO THE WHOLE *** SONG.
YOU ARE ONLY PLAYING CERTAIN PARTS OF THE *** SONG WHY DONT U PLAY THE WHOLE *** THING IN A PART OF THE SONG HE SAYS CLEARLY "I AINT *** IM A REAL MAN IM TONEX" AND IN THE PART WHERE U PLAYED "THE *** THE ***" HE ISNT CALLING HIMSELF THAT HE IS TALKING ABOUT WHAT PEOPLE CALLED HIM.....ITS LIKE THIS ARTICLE WAS WRITTIEN BY A *** 12 YEAR OLD.....YOU ARE TWISTING LYRICS OF THE ACTUAL SONG AND LYING AND LYING ABOUT SOMEONE AND THAT AINT RITE.....
AND LET ME BRING UP THOSE PICTURES YOU HAVE ACTUALLY THE ONE WITH HIM WEARING SPIKES ISNT RECENT AT ALL.....ITS FROM A FEW YEARS AGO AND THATS ALSO A LIE U NEED TO QUIT SLANDERING TONEX....AND SPREADING LIES ABOUT HIM...CUZ I CAN SEE THE ONLY PUNK *** IS U...***
SO JUST *** THE *** UP......
I think it is really sad how many souls will parish becuase of ignorance (meaning not knowing or having knowledge of) we are talking eternity people, there is nothing okay with be *** or bi. neither is it okay to sin in any other way. we must confess ourselves to jesus & get saved & delivered from all evil.
the wrath of god, no man is exempt unles you are saved. the moon will turn to blood & the water supply will turn to blood & there will be boils or sores that will infect the bodies & the food supply will all die, the sun will burn the skin & the men will seek death & can not find it for it will be eternal
let me make a point to all u *** straightys you all think u can make fun and talk *** about *** people but when it come down to it that dolce gabanna purse and those chanel sunglasses are all made by *** so u cant have it both ways either u hate us or love us but i will *** if any straight mother *** try say *** to me while wearing dior shades!
ps. tonex i got a tight *** for u and a mouth peice that works mericles
"Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor the idolaters nor male prostitutes nor *** offenders nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God." ~1 Corinthians 6:9, 10 (NIV)
think about it...
MTO you pulled a piece of the song and you didn't listen to the whole thing. If you go to his myspace site "tonexworld" and you listen to the full song, he even says in the song, "I am not *** and for those who say I am then step to me Ni@@a." He is getting sidelined by his records company and they are trying to destroy his creativity and now he is angry. I don't believe he is ***, eccentric but not ***. Get your facts straight MTO. He's angry about what is going on and for those that didn't hear the song, go take a listen to it. I don't agree with all the profanity but I get his point. Keep him in prayer people.
@franklyspeaking
Exactly, we are so freakin concerned about *** sexin each other that politicians like George W Bush and other conservative nutjobs have got our own black folks voting against their better interest because of this issue.
My aunt voted King George into office simply because HE WAS AGAINST ***. I said WHAT...WHAT...WHAT!!!! Are you nuts woman. He done changed up her medicare now she paying out the azz for prescription drugs she NEVER had to pay for before. She can't keep up and I have to help out.
I am just flabergasted by how black people can be CONNED by such a non-issue that has NOTHING to do with them. Who gives a flying f*ck if Johnny is f*cking Jerry and if they're gonna burn in hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WAKE UP BLACK PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!
@kimberlyfbaby
The Bible teaches that if someone has truly accepted Christ into his life, nothing can keep him out of heaven. In John 10:28, Christ says of Christians,
"I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one can *** them out of My hand."
One can go round and round about the bible...but its not worth it.
Only God can AND HAS THE RIGHT TO PASS JUDGEMENT... THINK ABOUT THAT -
Hold up... I've went to Tonex page and listened to THE ENTIRE SONG. He says he's NOT a "***" and that he's all man. He responds to the rumors in this song -- PERIOD. MTO took the ENTIRE song out of its context. You can go to myspace.com/tonexworld and hear for yourselves. The song is called Naked Truth.
MTO, everybody and they mama's cousins brother is *** to ya'll. The problem is, we keep coming back for more -- MTO is clearly *** and they barely get anything right.. BUT black folk love reading this ish -- hell we all going to hell in a handbasket LMAO.
Please go to his myspace page and listen to the entire song. He NOT coming out of the closet. He is addressing rumors that the media is saying, not him. Mediatakeout only took what they wanted ya'll to hear. At the end of the song he say's that. I can't wait until someone sues you mediatakeout. You are determined to be the leader in distroying the black community.
techietee
MTO you pulled a piece of the song and you didn't listen to the whole thing. If you go to his myspace site "tonexworld" and you listen to the full song, he even says in the song, "I am not *** and for those who say I am then step to me Ni@@a." He is getting sidelined by his records company and they are trying to destroy his creativity and now he is angry. I don't believe he is ***, eccentric but not ***. Get your facts straight MTO. He's angry about what is going on and for those that didn't hear the song, go take a listen to it. I don't agree with all the profanity but I get his point. Keep him in prayer people.
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THANK YOU! MTO took the part out of context. Shame on them!! They should remove the headlines because they can get sued. Hell, they SHOULD get sued lol.
CO-SIGN.... BUSH WON THE RACE BECAUSE HE CONFUSED THE SPACE.... NOW THE OVERLY RELIGIOUS INDIVIUALS ARE SUFFERING B/C OF WHAT THEY “THOUGHT” BELIEVED IN... IF THAT IS THE CASE THEN WHY DIDN’T HE KICK HIS THE “*** GRAND-DAD” OUT OF HIS WHITE HOUSE??? THAT MAN DOESNT GOVE A DING-*** ABOUT SAME *** MARRIAGES OR ***... AND ALL LOOK AT THE STATE OF THIS NATION NOW... THANKS TO THE POWER OF PERSUATION!!! – WHAT EVER
I LOVE MY OVERLY RELIGIOUS GRAND PARENTS TO DEATH – BUT THEY ARE REGREATING THEIR VOTE.
People,people,people;it's not that serious. *** is real, period. Regardless who condones what. I don't think a person would choose to be ***. Especially a man in the black community. It's hard I'm sure. That's like choosing to be tall. You have not control over it. I am not ***, and I know I couldn't choose to be even if I wanted to. Think about it. Live and let live, I say. Oh yeah, all you self righteous people really should take a good,long look in the mirror. I'm more than sure you have done something that GOD would not be to pleased about, according to Scripture.
LMAO @ all yah'll up in here tryn text and type up bible verses..............LMAO LOLOLOL
HA HA HA HA........... HE IS *** STOP TRYN MAKE IT OKAY JUST CUZ HE SING A SONG OR TWO ABOUT THE LORD.................lolololol
YOU ALL MAKE SPECIAL TREATMENT FOR THOSE WHO SAY THE FOLLOW THE LORDS WILL BUT LET IT BE NE-YO, CISCO, T- PAIN, MICHEAL JACKSON OR ANY OTHER BLACK MAN IN THE SPOT LIGHT..... yahll let the ranks and the jokes out with no problem....
SO LET THEM OUT NOW... CUZ THIS JOKER LOOK LIKE ONE MO DRAGGY QUEEN/KING...............LMAO
The Key words in that sentence is APPEARED TO BE!Saints The word declares, In all thy getting, get an understanding. The man of God has not proclaimed the he was "Out Of The Closet" he was saying if you see the spirit of *** on me, it is because I was violated as a child!! But of course the church folks not the saints because the real saint are somewhere praying!! This is what I am fighting or dealing with. In other words there is a war in my members, my body.This is just another attack of the enemy to destroy one of our brothers and because we have itching ears we take mess like this and spread it. God is going to hold us accountable if we don't stop this foolishness!!!
He's a ***, get over it. I'm tellin you, you desperate azz chicks, want to make *** men, straight. You think givin him a little head, and pu*** will change him. Whats sad is that is another reason why DL men are so heavy, black women won't allow for a man to be ***. You can't put no robitussin, or sab on it, he's ***, dammit let him be. Can't you desperate skanks find a straight man. Whats worse is dude got a church and he doing all this cursing, church folk gone be the first one's burning up, throw him in with mase, donnie mcclurkin, hezekiah walker, and all of the rest of them *** preachers.
I am so sick of people trying to act like being *** is a seperate sin. We are all GOD'S children andd no matter if you are straigt, ***, bi or closet *** we all are human and we all do and say things we have no business saying and/or doing. I used to be *** when I was younger. Now I do not have a problem with Black men being ***, if that is who you are then so be it. The only thing I will say I do not like is the brothers being on the down low because so many of my fellow sistas are getting AIDs from that secret behavior. There are women who will accept bi-sexaul behavior from their men (I guess to say atleast I have a man) and that is fine if that is truly what you want. If a Black man is *** fine with me but for some reason I don't like it when a *** Black man is 'sweet'. To me, you are still a man just man your s/h/i/t up!!! I am nobody's 'honey child' especially in that high a/s/s whine I've heard from some *** Black men in Chicago. I do not buy some 'Christians' saying if I do not follow every commandment to the letter I am going straight to hell (no doubt with gasoline thongs on) and I do not believe in JESUS. My faith is not as strong as others but I have that '*** seed faith' and I do not believe in religion anymore but in having spirtuality. As far as Donnie McClurken goes I heard that he lead the DL lifestyle confessed to GOD and has been released from that sin. And if that is so good I mean great from him!! I firmly believe that if we as GOD'S children pray to be delivered from any sin then it can and will happen. We as Black people need to embrace ALL OF OUR MEN more, putting *** Black men down is probably what created the DL lifestyle in the first place. *** Black men are so afraind of being shunned in their communities they feel they have to hide who they really are. They cannot turn to the *** community as a whole because they may encounter racism for *** White men and so they they may feel like they are left out in the cold. If you respond to my comment PLEASE no ignorant comments calling me ugly names. If any of you (especially my Black men ofa all ages and walks of life) would like to have a further mature adult discussion concerning this matter please enagage me.
A strong Black womean who desires a strong Black man Ms. Bells
I didn't listen to this but on the subject of ***, it’s no surprise what the world has come to today, regarding ***. Look back to maybe 10-15 years ago (which is REALLY not that long ago. We are in a completely different place, a completely immoral *** world.
The only reason why more and more people are accepting *** is because so many people are getting “into” it thus you have the creation of such groups such as GLAAD and all these other *** rights groups trying to “convince” people that other people should not think that *** is wrong. I don’t care WHO says WHAT, I will NEVER condone *** and I will never accept it. I don’t hate *** people nor would I treat any *** person differently than I would the next. I am not a very religious person but I do remember what the bible says about ***. And don’t get me wrong, sin is sin, but what I hate is the fact that most people try to make it look like there’s nothing wrong with it. It is a sin, isn’t it? And although it is no more unacceptable than all of the other sins, it is still WRONG (wrong in God’s eyes). I've even seen people go as far as trying to prove that *** is acceptable and it's in the bible. Since when? I've never seen these bibles growing up.
I went through and read almost ALL the comments! Listen to yourselves! How do you all know this stuff is real?! Take MTO for what it is...ENTERTAINMENT!!! Can any of us really believe the articles posted here are real?!!! Yall have gotten all philosphical and religious and some of you are just down right ignorant. MTO will do/say anything to get yall all riled up!
U R NOT BORN ***. I AM SO TIRED OF HEARING THAT. NO ONE IS BORN ***. IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS NOT CLEAN. IF GOD MEANT FOR THE SAME *** TO BE TOGETHER HE WOULD HAVE DONE IT IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN. HOMESEXUALITY IS A SIN, JUST LOOK AT WHAT GOD DONE TO THE CITY OF SODOM & GOMORRAH. I AGREE WITH AND EARLIER COMMENT THESE ARE THE LAST & EVIL DAYS. IT HAS BECOME MORE AND MORE TO THE LIGHT WITH THE NUMEROUS OF STORMS & DESTRUCTION STARTING IN THE HOUSE OF THE LORD. WE MUST PRAY TO HEAL THE LAND RATHER THAN ATTACK. WELL IF YOU ARE A FELLOW CHRISTIAN YOU KNOW THIS. I AM PRAYING FOR TONEX & ALL OTHER ***. ITS JUST NASTY TO THINK OF ANOTHER MAN IN ANOTHER MANS BUT AND WOMEN BUMPING EACH OTHER. ITS TIME TO CLEAN UP THIS NASTINESS IN THIS WORLD. IF U HAVE ANY COMMENTS TOWARS ME HIT ME AT THISDIVA4CHRIST@YAHOO.COM
I wish I could say that I was shocked at the ignorance I have been reading in these comments...but I'm not. But everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I speak as not only of member of the church community, but as someone who has struggled with ***/bi-sexuality as well. And first of all, the way that he dresses and his eccentricity do not automatically make him ***. And if he is and felt comfortable enough as an artist to express that in his lyrics, it's a shame that there are people that will get hung up on words and not the message. But as an artist myself, I realize that when you put yourself out there like that in the form of art and expression that you are subjecting yourself to scrutiny, ridicule, and judgement....BUT THAT DOESN'T MAKE IT RIGHT. I urge everyone to listen to the song in it's entirety before passing judgement on this brother who has had a stellar career for several years (long before 2004 as it was printed by the hosts of this site). As a worshiper and a musician/artist, I am annoyed.
@Prettiebrown
You are free to have your own beliefs about ***. But dont for one second think that the words in the bible are coming from "GOD". Just dont be that shallow and delusional. If you think *** is wrong fine. Belive it because you feel that way. Not because some book made by Bigots 1000's a years ago says so. Those words in that book kept your ancestors inslaved for centuries.
And you dont have enuff sense to look outside of it for one moment and decide if this something you choose to belive or you been told. Stand up and Think for yourself. God gave you a brain, Put it to work.
@thiscocodiva
Check it.
1. God Hates *** but is perfectly fine with incest. He only creates adam and eve so how the hell did more people get here without incest. But God hates ***? Ironic.
2. People have been saying its the last days for over 5000 years. Please get a new crutch. That one is really played.
3. Your clearly brainwashed. Your Shallow and Narrow. You have no mind of your own. Your a drone in your "Religions" army.
4. Christianity has sparked more wars and killed more people in the crusades, witch trials, Spainish Inqisition than anything. Do you know anything about your religion?
first off this man does not strike me as *** and from the clip it sounds like he is sayin that sarcastically it sounds like its more to it be fore and after the clip provided second y i believe *** is wrong is because its stated in the bible that *** are Gods enemy when those people was commitin adultry and partyin and being *** in the movie the 10 Commandments God wiped out their whole city now @holdmydrinkbitch i do realize that the bible is man written but at the same time i do believe those events did happen and man took notes and wrote the book and what i draw from my own conclusion about *** is that it is preventing new life if everyone was *** *** howeva u wanna say it cause i dont wanna offend nobody but if everyone was and no new life was being created but people are dyin every minute what will we have left? half dead *** half *** end of the world i kno they gone make some way to make kids but its not natural 2 men or 2 women cant create life and u dont kno how all that artificial stuff is gonna affect u all this stuff is thought of and put here to see who will follow and believe even tho it is hard and who will not follow and not believe its all a test its up to you if u wanna have faith or if u wanna live how u wanna live but if your heart is pure and God will know and you ask him for forgivness you will be forgiven you cant always believe what you read because I have found things in the bible that totally contridicts what God stands for and have me str8 confused but I look at that as the devil tryna get in anywhere he can to stir me away from believing and God testing to see how strong my belief is but im likin these comments tho some of yall have real good points and opinions
Meachie dear,
You're right...MTO is pure entertainment. BUT, you don't sound too smart either by saying, "He is married so he ain't ***....etc." Hell, haven't you heard of Down Low? Yep, and it's mostly the "church folk" who'er tied into that down low world. I don't let MTO persuade me. I drew my conclusion from mere observation. Hell, he LOOKS *** to me. I said that before when I saw pics of him on MySpace, well before this article was printed.
WE ARE LIVIN IN OUR LAST DAYS THAT DOESNT LITERALLY MEAN DAYS WE DONT KNOW HOW LONG THAT IS TO GOD HISTORY REPEATS ITSELF AND FROM THE EVENTS HAPPENING FOR THE PAST 5-6 YEARS SURE PAINTS THE PICTURE THAT WE ARE IN OUR LAST DAYS IF U READ MY OTHER POST WE ARE COMING TO A POINT WHERE PEOPLE ARE MAKING IT OK FOR *** TO BE MARRIED UNDER THE SITE OF GOD COME ON NOW WUT IS THAT AND ITS OK TO SOME PEOPLE IT SEEM TO ME YOU ARE BRAIN WASHED DONT COME DOWN ON SOMEONE BECAUSE OF THEIR BELIEFS YOU ARE BASICALLY TELLIN SOMEONE THEIR ENTIRE EXSISTANCE IS A LIE
Take this as food for thought!! Before we can say without a doubt that all this is true because of something we read online, let's get it from the horse's mouth!! I am huge fan on Tonex's so I try to stay posted on all that's being said. I've listened to "The Naked Truth" and I must say that it's one of the realest songs I've ever heard. If anything we need to commend Tonex for allowing himself to be so transparent so that he can reach out and touch people that "Amazing grace" can't!!
How about this, check him out your self. Listen to the song and make up your own mind. Don't be so close minded that you believe what people are tellin you instead of finding out for yourself! Draw your own conclusion don't let others draw it for you!!
HEAR THE REAL SONG " The Naked Truth " at www.myspace.com/tonexworld
MTO has gone too far. I don't know if he is *** or not, but CLEARLY the lyrics to the song are speaking to the people who have called him that, rather than the spin MTO is trying to put on it, acting like he is calling himself these things. If you listen to the song, you will see that he's saying that he is different, and if you want to call someone ***, call the person that molested him when he was a child ***. I am no rocket scientist, but this intent is clearly understood if you listen to the clip contextually and not take an apple and turn it into an orange.
MsDee, you are on point. It's easy to take a few isolated lyrics and jump to a conclusion...that's why everyone should listen to the entire song before making a snap judgement. And OhSoCrunk said that Tonex "looks" ***...hmmmmm....how does one look ***? Because from the pic I saw, I didn't see him having *** with another man...because that is the only thing that would make him "look" *** or bi. Ignorant people suck.
once you start throwing "***", "***", and "***" in a song, doesn't that automatically disqualify it in the gospel music category??? i don't listen much gospel but i'm pretty certain i've never heard of a gospel artist using profanity. and really, with the that fur jacket, pearls and relaxer, blunt cut brushing ever so gently across his face, WHY ARE YOU SURPRISED?
I have been called to preach, but one thing that will hinder me is that I don't really buy in to RELIGION. Tradition and the way things have been done for thousands of years based on recorded accounts by man is not how I choose to live my life. GOD IS SPEAKING TO US TODAY, and I think that we should start listening! KUDOS TO TONEX for being radical and different.
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i agree with him being radical for christ and i its hard living this life and people need to understand that. There are alot of closested people in the industry. Tonex reall was never in the closet im pretty sure everyone knew that, but like people have been doing for years they swept it under the rug. People get over it there are *** people everywhere in the world and the gospel sector is no exception
to KELSIM01:
Furthermore, a lot of people continue to miss the point that 1)Tonex has not said that he is ***...this is STILL speculation fueled by MTO and 2) If he has struggled with it, this song is not glorifying it, rather being used as a tool to let people know that it happens, and you CAN overcome.
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I just Utubed Tonex and listened to some of his music. And shockingly one of it contains double entendre.
His song "Put your hands on it", performed with Kirk Franklin could be taken to be speaking about God putting his hand on you or, as I took it, particularly since Tonex and Kirk Franklin were on stage pratically begging each other to put their hands on it. They were speaking sexually to put their hands on each other's who-knows-what.
Regardless the performance was good even with the *** overtones. The other music he has on Utube is good too. I might have to look into getting his albums.
As an aside, I think both Kirk Franklin and Tonex are freaky freaks in bed. I'd do both of them...at the same time. lol
@J
yes it should be OK for *** to marry. What the hell is wrong with you? Your religions doesn't say anything about *** not getting married. Let them folks get married and be as miserable at it as all the rest of us. Frankly, I think they had it easy being *** and being able to party and sleep with whoever they want and not have to account to anybody. But if they want to, they have the CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT to get married. That's why King George is always trying to put this issue to a public vote rather than letting it go through the courts. Because the courts wouldn't be able to stop it because IT'S THEIR RIGHT to be as miserable as we are.
whoa, whoa WHOA!!! think about this objectively...this site links to their own edited version of the song, but if you see the song in it's full context it's anything BUT a come out song. It's an "angry but still standing" type thing. as a matter of fact there's a new video addressing these very allegations and this very site! his user name on youtube is iNKset2040 . Do i think he's right to call this gospel? nope. do i agree with his style? not too much, but i respect his right and his honesty...coming out song? not at all!! but i bet after he was abused that affected him for th rest of his life. dont believe everything u read....check his posts to see his story straight from his own mouth.
@Holdmydrinkbitch
finally someone with some sense up in here. Break it down for these people will you.
1st off Jesus was a radical leader who didn't conform to the rules of his time. So they crucified him. If he lived today he would have probably been a bisexual, marijuana smoking, left thinking non-conformist and you all would have crucified him for it.
Regardless, Jesus is not the problem. I think we all can agree that he existed and was crucified. But the problem comes when men start to interpret the bible. I am no biblical expert but I have researched the bible and learned that a lot of it is not even translated correctly. Meaning the bible you're studying today is fundamentally wrong because men decided they didn't like the original intent of the text so they changed it or just left whole sections out. WTF!!!
And how a race of people could completly envelope a religion that has served as the foundation for their slavery for hundreds of years. Simultaneously reading into that bible to forgive the people who have persecuted and enslaved you for all of those centuries. WTF!!! Can you say brainwashed?
Not to mention the countless number of wars and genocide waged in the name of certain religions is unbelievable. I thinks as Christians we have a lot of nerve shaking our heads at Muslims without even looking into our own, blood soaked history.
How u gon b a GOSPEL singer, singin 2 da glory of JESUS christ AND b a ***. God made men for women and women for men. He dint make men fa men and women fa women. Y yall think in Genisus, when God saw Adam gettin lonely he created a WOMAN,which was Eve. He dint make no nother man. ADAM and EVE! Not ADAM and STEVE. I would b ashamed ta b a *** person tryna sing gospel, then on top of that b a PASTOR. Thats craziness. The bible say that *** is an abomination and sin and God smells it and its a stanky smell. It makes him sick. P.S This aint "*** BASHING" its the truth and its *** the bible. If u feel this is "*** bashing" den dnt read it, cuz I feel dat we're bein bashed and locked up fa sayin how we feel. I feel its a hate goin out towards us heterosexuals becuz we think bein *** aint rite. Da U.S is suppose ta b a free country. Erbodii have da rite ta speech, *** i'ont care who it is and wat its about. Wheather its sayin the *** word, and Imma black girl, or sayin bein *** aint rite. If dint nobodii put dey hands on u, u cant do nuthin bout it. So deal wit it. If they make up a law dat u cant say bein *** aint rite then me *** ma family go b *** jail cuz it aint rite. Imma stand up fa god *** wat i believe cuz im more fraid of god *** hell den police
Once again, now a different message for gospel is people cursing, *** whats next, and why the hell are ministers in Chicago paying for billboards to be erected to clean rap music, whu is Al *** and Jesse Jackson, talking about rap music, you got this dude dropping the *** bomb and cursing up a storm, you got Mase preaching one day, rapping and cursing the next, and picking transvestites up on the side. Kirk Franklin chillin beatin his meat to some porn, and you fools wanna quote the bible. I said before the church will be the first to burn, because some of the sh** yall doing is just insane, and on top of that, you idiots are trying to justify it. Dude is a ***, flat out, not only that but he is a disgrace because of his profanuity laced music. 50 cent don't go to preach after he say Bit** or ni**a. D. Mcclurkin, Hezekiah Walker, Mase, ALL catholic priests, Creflo Dollar etc, strictly opportunists, or ***. Church is now a business, they poppin up on every corner in the hood like liquor stores, you got people driving around preaching, ministers cursing in music dying their hair blue, where the hell is the message. Shi* J.L. King said the church is where you find the most *** men, and every day I believe him a little more. And as for you stupid broads, who will sleep with a man even though you know he is ***, or suspect, yall some dumb MF'S. Puss* don't make a *** man straight, it just makes him more confused. Yall part of the reason AIDS is so prevalent because you let *** dudes raw dog yall dumb azz, find a man who wants you dumb bitc***
i could care less if he's ***, bi, whatever. i'm not god a won't judge anyone just because a book written by men, translated a dozen times says it's wrong. i have a problem with the ***-word. if you listen to the whole song, he says he "took the power" from the ***-word and made it a "trigga". it's not okay to use this word and to say it is, is irresponsible. oh and btw, he now goes by "maverick" i guess that would make him the artist formerly known as tonex...(yawn). how original.
First of all, Tonex has not "come out" to say that he is ***. Futhermore, it would be noone's business IF Tonex wasn't preaching/singing the gospel, but because he is claiming to be a man of God, he is expected to adhere to higher standards. We don't have to agree with how he dresses or what hairstyles he chooses to wear; that's his choice. We need to all remember that we are not called to judge ANYONE; that is God's job. I pray that Tonex is not *** and preaching the gospel, but if he is; he'll have to answer for that sin not any of you all so called "judges".
I just cannot believe that is Tonex cussing like a sailor and carrying on like that. Now I knew he liked to wear his hair differently and dress differently--all of that is fine. BUT!!! if he calls himself a preacher and he is *** then he is doing something that God is totally against! God made Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve! If he was molested maybe he should seek professional help because that is devastating on a child especially if a preacher did it because he is sopose to be a man of God and someone you can trust. Lord have mercy. Pray for Tonex yall. That man is truly a gifted singer but he obviously has some deep issues.
THIS MAN IS NOT ***!!! Those were names he was being called through out the years. If you TRULEY listen to the words you would understand that. MTO needs to get their fact straight. Tonex has been around alot longer than you say. His first major release dropped in 1998! If you see that cover, his look was very against the grain then. He did that to break the sterotypes people place on Gospel artist. Get it together MTO! BTW, Donnie McClurkin never said he was *** either.
I don't know him and aint never heard of him but lookin at he I would think he was ***
as for the song I don't know what the hell MediaTakeOut is listening too but he is not saying anything about he is *** listen again he is saying all the things that he has been called I guess while he was growing up or what ever and how he made it threw all that and the only thing he did admit was that he was molested
I can't judge anyone but I agree with what others ask, how can you do and preach all the God stuff and still live that lifestyle, that is not judging anyone that is a question, the very Bible you hold and read every Sunday says that it is a Sin then again King James was *** also
I think that it is so sad that in 2007 there are still words like *** used. Everyone is ALWAYS to jump on the *** bandwagon, but probably cannot speak intelligently about the war. It is not very often that I even make a post to MTO. However, due to the nature of comments, I figured that I must. This is what God DOES NOT want. Judgemental people who know nothing. Stop reading just the scripture and read what surrounds it also. Who said that *** is this big sin against God? How sad you are. Actually, what makes one sin worse than the other one? It is funny to me how people ignore other things from the Old Testament, but sit on this one. The is simply because, it goes beyond God and the Bible and sits at our own personal prejudices. I challenge anyone who reads this to find ANYTHING that God says about ***. Not the preachers who claim to bring God's word...,but what God himself has to say. I think you would be surprised. And to KAKARATO, Donnie M. did admit that he led a *** lifestyle because he was molested.
ALL YOU WHO WANT TO QUESTION WHAT GOD DOES AND DOES NOT APPROVE PLEASE REFERENCE TO HIS WORD THE BIBLE. IN BIBLE TIMES THEY DID HAVE *** AS THEY DO TODAY HE DIDNT APPROVE OF IT THEN AND HE DOESNT APPROVE OF IT NOW. HE STATED MAN SHOULD NOT LIE IN BED OR HAVE RELATIONS WITH ANOTHER MAN OR USE HIM FOR UNNATURAL PURPOSES. WHILE IT IS TRUE GOD DOESNT HATE THE SINNER HE HATES THE SIN THAT IT BEING COMMITED. HE IS GIVING EVERYONE A CHANCE TO REPENT AND CHANGE THEIR WAYS *** STRAIGHT WHOMEVER. FOR SOME REASON PEOPLE THINK THAT BECAUSE SOCIETY IS ACCEPTING OF THIS DO WHAT YOU WANT TO ATTITUDE PEOPLE THINK THAT GOD WILL CHANGE WITH THE TIMES NOT.....GOD DOESNT HAVE TO CONFORM TO OUR IDEAS AND THOUGHTS IT IS THE OTHER WAY AROUND. HIS WORD SAYS FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD SO YOU CAN HAVE ALL THE FAITH YOU WANT IN GOD BUT IF YOUR LIFESTYLE IS NOT ONE THAT HE APPROVES THAN THE HE STATES YOU ARE LIKE A MAN WITHOUT FAITH. SO IF YOU WANT TO BE *** AND LIVE THE LIFESTYLE OR BE STRAIGHT AND HAVE ALL THE UNMARITAL *** YOU WANT TO HAVE THEN SAY THAT BUT DONT MAKE IT SEEMS LIKE GOD HAS YOUR BACK REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU DO..JUST LIKE YOUR JOB HAS CETAIN REQUIREMENTS YOU HAVE TO MEET GOD DOES TOO BUT HE GIVES EVERYONE A CHOICE AS TO WHAT THEY CHOOSE TO DO BUT WE ARE ALL HELD ACCOUNTABLE FOR ALL THAT WE DO....
@Holdmydrinkbitch:
The “words” in the bible come from God. The bible was created by God but written by apostles and prophets. He spoke through these men, giving us the Word, thus creating the bible. I am nowhere near shallow and nowhere near delusional, and definitely not delusional enough to believe that the bible did not come from God! Now I will admit that different versions have been passed down from time to time but if you notice, the Word is still “true”, still the same and doesn’t change much! You tell me how and Who is responsible for that.
First of all, the bible has NOTHING to do with why our ancestors were enslaved; where do you see that in the bible. Our ancestors were enslaved because they were SNATCHED from their homelands and put into an environment that they knew nothing about. Being separated from each other, with no weapons, no way to defend themselves and NOT being educated in a completely new environment by a force outnumbered than them is what kept them enslaved. But as you see, they were not enslaved for long. Some people twist the meaning of things and use it to their own benefit but the truth always prevails. Notice?
Secondly, I have thought about, considered and tried other religions but the only thing that seems to make sense is the BIBLE. As hard as to believe as they may seem to be, these things happened; I doubted it once myself but I’m a grown woman and NOBODY has to think for me; I learn by experiment. Check out Revelations….scary?? Coincidental?? Notice how the things that are mentioned in Revelations are strikingly similar to today. Anyway I’m not about to get too deep/biblical/or philosophical because your beliefs are yours and mines are mines, but the bible definitely comes from God, albeit made by white men, purple men or pink men.
To everyone:
We all have to part this earth one day; we all came here alone and we all have to leave alone...whether you believe in God or not; whether the you believe in the Word or not; whether you are *** or not; In my opinion since I believe God exists, I believe he loves EVERYONE...there has been all kinds of activity on this earth today that has been going on since the beginning of time whether we like it or not; even though I don't agree with the *** lifestyle, I STILL love and respect my *** friends and relatives, we are all human and we all have our own things to go thru in life, who am I to judge? They respect the way I feel and I respect the way they feel..period. Nothing is new under the sun when it comes to people in the church; I was raised in one all my life, and church folk got problems like any other person in any other religion...whether its a *** lifestyle, drugs, affairs, etc... However, we will all soon have to meet our maker face to face and in my opinion, when I do ALL I want is a crown on my head, and that is why everyday I try to be the best at loving God and obeying him as much as I can...period.
2 whatwhatwhat did u read the whole thing and see what happened to those people who were doing that God destroyed their whole city It is stated that *** people are Gods enemy if u wanna b cool wit the enemy of the one who created this world and made it possible 4 u 2 b here and do not see anything wrong with them being married under the site of God u off ur rocker for saying what u said
all that being slaves *** stuff happened for a reason look what r race have overcome and now we are the dominate race it jus made us stronger that is y we dont kill rselves because we kno how to deal wit alot of stuff im not gonna sit here and tell u u are wrong tho because u are free to believe wuteva u want *** im not gonna act like i kno the bible front to back but its jus some things i do kno and being a *** is wrong man and women are supposed to be together to bring new life and *** or dykes cannot do that (excuse me dnt wanna offend noone 4 saying *** r wuteva but dats how i talk tho) neway like i said we are jus gonna b dyin off and no new life being created wut do u think is gonna happen?? u think u are living how u want and u are in control of yourlife but u are not God gave us minds to make decesions it is up to u to make the right ones he neva once said you have to follw me he jus said whoever does faithfully will be rewarded i do like the challenge tho so please do respond *** tell me who brain washed cause it aint me I jus got common sense i try to go to church but im livin wrong to and im not gonna act all holy or nothin but its jus certain rules I live by the Commandments and try to avoid doin thing I feel is wrong in Gods eyes I dont need nothin to tell me being a *** is wrong even if i believed there was no God i would still kno being a *** is wrong
Well since people are going there why not...
Its funny how some people try and take verses out of the bible and MISinterpret the Word and put their own spin on it...FUNNY!
And much DISrespect to MTO for even going here with this topic/then again this is a BLOG and we are giving our say on this...
Hence Psalms 137:9
Do you all know the REASONING behind this verse? I suggest you acutally take the time to READ it FIRST! There was a STUPID guy named Esau who was later named EDOM (which was the name of the city he become the ruler of) EDOM means FAMISHED...hence the reason.....this man SOLD his birth right for a cup of STEW which is the meaning of his name and city..FAMISHED! This man become jealous and plotted to KILL his brother because he was blessing his SICK father, so God helped Jacob (Edom's/Esau's brother) because he know Esau was no good. This man became a ruler of the city of Edom and killed, murdered, and starved slaves in this city..the bible is NOT telling anyone to kill babies, the Word is QUOTING what slaves were saying once they were free...this man tortured and killed a slew of slaves, their babies, children etc.........So PLEASE get it right if your going to quote scriptures...whether you believe in the Word or NOT, this is the REASONING behind the events not the "story" of this verse.
Peace
