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I DON'T KNW Y IM COMMENTIN ON THIS SINCE I DON'T WATCH AMERICAN IDOL.........AND I HAVE NO IDEA WHO THIS GIRL IS.........BUT ANYWAY, SINCE I AM COMMENTIN......JUST WANNA SAY CONGRATS 2 HER SHE'S 18 WHICH MEANS SHE CAN LEGALLY BONE ANY1 AND GET PREGNANT & LIKE GREYEYEDCHICK SAID:"SHE AIN'T THE 1ST NOR IS SHE THE LAST" SO CHILL PEOPLE WIT THIS PERFECT AMERICAN SOCIETY CRAP....NO1 SAID UR GR8T GRAND OR GR8T GR8T GRAND PARENTS WERE TOO YOUNG WHEN THEY WERE GETTIN MARRIED @ 12 & 14 AND HAVIN KIDS @ THE SAME AGE.
OKAY, I HAVEN'T COMMENTED IN A WHILE, BUT NEWSFLASH,
PARIS BENNET IS NOT 18, SHE'S ACTUALLY LIKE 20. SHE WAS 17 WHEN SHE APPEARED ON AMERICAN IDOL ALMOST 3 YEARS AGO, PARIS BENNET IS NOT 18, I REPEAT, SHE'S NOT 18.
AND EVEN IF SHE WAS, ATLEAST SHE'S GROWN. SO THE ISSUE ISN'T HER AGE, DOE'S SHE HAVE A JOB? WHAT ABOUT THE DAD?
Well, in the scheme of things, she has many years she could have a baby. 20 is young as hell, she should be finishing college! When you become a real GROWN UP, you look back and see how young and dumb most of you were at 20!!!! And 18 doesn't automatically make you know everything, you haven't begun to live, then to add that 24/7 responsibility to a life that should be carefree is plain foolish. I'm just sayin...
@rexchap
I didn't say u were WRONG. I'm saying who are you to judge? You aren't going stop teen pregnancy or anybody from getting pregnant out of wedlock by coming on MTO and going off. What good is that going to do? It will change NOTHING in our communities.
I as well as everybody on this site knows that it is a problem. It has been and will unfortunately continue to be.
And FYI there is no reason why I would come on an "entertainment" website and try to "lower my expectations so I can feel better about doing NOTHING" or "to defend myself" In order for you to make that statement you would have to know something about my personal life...which u don't... So save it. Please. Nice attempt at reverse psychology though.
Perhaps u should spend some time volunteering at a local Boys and Girls club. Start an anti-teen pregnancy campaign in your community. Get you message across with actions instead of posting hateful and derogatory messages on internet sites and getting all pissy when somebody calls u out for being judgmental.
God Bless Ya Dear
koko_kisses401:
It's not about being hypocritical! It's about teaching kids/young adults a better way. Yes we've all made mistakes, but to let your child or anyone else you know make the SAME MISTAKE would be WRONG! Don't you agree??
How many young/teenage parents wish(ed) they could go to spring break, take road trips, go to a historically black college, even waited to have their child?? CHildren are a hinderance to young people who aren't financially or emotionally stable with a decent education.
Rexchap....seriously calm down. You my dear are like so many people who huff and puff but contribute NOTHING to the solution. By saying it "Ain't your job" you are pretty much saying nothing. You haven't said a THING that we all don't know. It just as much your job as it is "my momma's job" and "my grandma's job". Seriously though.. "My Momma and my Grandma?" Throw back to 5th grade on that one. It's that attitude of "that aint' my job" that is the problem.
And why are you telling me to keep my legs closed? Again....you know NOTHING about my personal life. If you did u would realize how ridiculous u sound trying to make a story about teen pregnancy relate to me. That is so far removed from my reality.
You can change the terminology..."Formulate and educated opinion" if you want to. The fact remains the same. You are judging and since it "aint your job" to make a difference then u shouldn't "JUDGE" unless u plan to help do something about the problem. PERIOD.
I HOPE THAT IS A WEDDING RING ON HER FINGER!
This out-of-wedlock sh*t is killing the black community. And no I don't want to hear that sh*t about "well, I'm doing well getting my college degree, etc, etc, etc." It's NOT ABOUT YOU, IT'S ABOUT THE KID(s) who isn't/aren't gonna have their father as a role model in their household growing up. IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU.
I've mentored 2 kids (a boy and a girl) at my wife's (a teacher) school over the past 5 years and NEARLY EVERY ONE OF THEM AT THAT SCHOOL IS GROWING UP WITHOUT THEIR FATHER IN THE HOUSEHOLD. Out of wedlock pregnancy is the self-destruction of the black community.
Qamil...oh YEAH, i hit a NERVE
Go ahead and say the GENERIC... "YOU DON'T KNOW ME"
So now i have to pick and choose the proper forum to tell folks to stop letting dudes run all up in ya?
You hit em where you can get em.
I'll say the same thing the same fukkin way on EASTER SUNDAY...in YOUR CHURCH......HOLLA
YOU WOMEN.....since WOMEN are the ones who decide to HAVE the kids and are ABLE to bare kids.....KEEP YOUR FUKKIN LEGS CLOSED and STOP MIX MATCHIN these fukkin KIDS.
I'm DONE
take offense if you want to....
i don't give ONE fukk, let alone TWO
I'm not offended at all. I don't know you from a hole in the wall. Cuss and fuss until your face turns blue. The facts remain the same. You offer opinions and do not contribute to the solution. It's not "generic" to tell somebody who doesn't know you that they DON'T know you. LOL. It's the truth. You really don't. I would never be offended by something that somebody on this website says to me. It's a bunch of typed up lines on a computer screen. Not a reality. After I'm done typing this I'll get back to work. Go home for the day and never think about it again.
You should relax. Understand that some people will have a response to the ugliness that you spread. After all isn't that what you wanted when you came on here talking about girls letting men "spray up in them". Sorry if that gets u all worked up. That's too bad.
Qamil, are you at work right now? Well, if you are, stop arguing with rexchap and get back to work! :) Just kidding!!!!!!!!!!!!! And rechap, I can't tell if you are coming from the male or female perspective. However, I understand both of you guys points and counterpoints though. Hey, let's agree to disagree!
408kers....This is coming from an ADULT point of view (male if you REALLY want to know)
The POINT of the matter is I'm NOT Congratulating NO SINGLE MOM (especially someone young) for letting some ARBITRARY dude (at the time, i'm sure) splash all in em and HAVING his damn kid, THEN turn around after THAT relationship didn't work...HAVE another and ANOTHER....Kids looking like NEOPOLITAN ICE CREAM up in the piece.
ALL that with NO MAN around.
Keep your legs CLOSED, get some dignity.
Stop being a BABY MAMA.
That's all.
This is a blog so of course people are going to post their personal opinions and everything. I am a single mother of one and have never been married. I don't plan to be a single mother forever nor is my child suffering in any way from my not being with his father. I don't believe in judging people in any way because that's only God's job. I won't say names but I don't think anyone is perfect or has the lifestyle to put on a "holier than thou" act. If you wait until you get married to have children, honestly, I applaud you and think it's a beautiful thing. But, nothing is guaranteed and you never know what tomorrow may bring. Just because you are married doesn't mean you are going to stay married. If you divorce, your wife will be a single mother just like all the women you are bashing. She wouldn't have had a child out of wedlock, but she would end up in the same position, which is being a single mother. Actually I am going to say a name, Rexchap I don't think anything is wrong with expressing your opinion, but I don't think you should call it educated when you came off very disrespectful to begin with. I guess there wasn't a better way you could've expressed yourself than to come off sayin "phuck all you..." blah blah blah. Comin off like that, you should have expected somebody to argue with you. It wasn't just an opinion at that point...You just came out sayin fukk somebody. That's not cool. I hope you stay married to your wife forever but to put down all single moms is stupid because she could possibly become one some day. There are many single moms who were married when they had their kids AND there are many women whose children have different fathers who were married when they had all their kids because they remarried.
By the way, it looks like your main complaint was women not being married and getting pregnant over and over again by different dudes or being "nasty" and lettin a lot of dudes splash in them. Well, I don't know how long you have known your wife or anybody else who you have had sex with in your life, but I guarantee you, whether they had a child out of wedlock or not, your wife or somebody you had sex with before have had somebody else "splash up in them" besides you. If they say they haven't and you believe them, that's fine. But it's highly unlikely that all the people you been with have only been "splashed up in" by you so callin them "nasty bytches" for doin that, you just might very well be talkin about your own wife on that one.
Again, single parenthood ISN'T ABOUT YOU. It's about the child(ren) who are not going to have their father in the household. YOU might think they're "doing fine" without a Dad, but they aren't. They are more likely to become criminals, be poor, have low grades, etc., etc. etc.
And for you who say "stop judging," you need to get a f*cking clue. I wish I didn't have to worry about the way other people were raising their kids, but the fact is that these kids growing up not knowing how to be men turn into monsters and rob/steal/kill people in my neighborhood. So, it is my problem when you decide to have kids out of wedlock, whether I like it or not.
I could care less whose feelings are hurt. Again, IT'S NOT ABOUT YOU.
I expect ALL you single moms to TALK THAT ISH...what else you gonna do??
Otheriwse you'd have to ADMIT, your situation ain't IDEAL.
So whatcha sayin means NOTHING to me. Get all defensive if ya want. Ain't nobody gonna defned YOU like YOU.
Talk that ISh if ya WANT to and BELIEVE all is GRAVY if ya WANT TO
jt-money ------BIG UPS
Since YOU have the POWER to actually HAVE those 3 kids by 3 different daddies or the 2 kids with the dude in the PEN.......I say PHUCK YOU WOMEN
So it's ON YOU.....i don't need any "i don't need no man yadda either"
Keep your legs closed, HAVE SOME RESPECT FOR THE KIDS YOU'RE BRINGING IN HERE.
I'm DONE WHISPERING to people
@ JT-MONEY so what are u trying to say that without a father figure in the household most of the kids are likely to end up in jail or whatever else was said.IT ALL DEPENDS ON HOW A CHILD IS RAISED IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHO'S RAISING WHO.well my mother was a single parent mother, with 3 kids same mother same father and all of us finished high school by 16 and went off to college,we've never been arrested or ever been to jail.yes we got into trouble now as then as any other kids would do but never nothing serious.and all of us are hard working young lady with alot of ambition.so stop being judgemental.I DONT KNOW WHO MADE YOU MASTER OF CEREMONY.ACTING LIKE YOU KNOW IT ALL.
To the Anonymous Poster Who Needs Some Help with Reading Comprehension:
This is a statement of fact from well-established research. Kids from single-parent families have a significantly higher likelihood that they will be 1) financially poorer, 2) engaged in criminal activities, 3) single-parents themselves, 4) high school drop-outs, and 5) a whole host of other negative outcomes, than their counterparts in married, two-parent households. Does this mean that every kid from a single-parent household is going to turn out badly or that every kid from a married household is gonna turn out well? Of course not. There are plenty of other factors and exceptions to everything. But it does mean that the CHANCES ARE MUCH LOWER for those born into single parent situations, esp black boys. You obviously do not appreciate or understand the importance of having a father in the household (perhaps because you didn't have one there?).
Maybe a sports analogy will help you understand me. It is like starting a 200 meter race with a 50 meter deficit. You can still win, but it makes it that much harder.
Please do some research next time before you try to intellectually step to me.
@FendiFiend
I noticed that you didn't dispute the substance of what I said. It's probably because you cannot. Please check out the National Fatherhood Institute (I actually paid to get their book on father stats in hard copy, so it cannot be posted here). You can order their research book, as I did, here: [link to external website]
Everything I wrote is well supported by research (for those who've bothered to look) and the conditions we see of the community around us. Denial is both pathetic and self-destructive.
As for the rest of what you wrote, yes, the punk *ss fathers deserve every bit as much, if not more, of the blame for all of these babies growing up in single parent households.
TIICKL3MII3LMO, TicklemeElmo, whatever your name is, get over yourself. Who in their right mind (besides those suffering from severe immaturity) tries to cuss someone out on a message board? Grow up. I said nothing ignorant about you at all. Now I could, don't get me wrong, but I do those things face to face. So YOU keep it moving and get over yourself, and stop getting so defensive. And maybe when you turn 28, you'll understand the whole concept of keeping your little ignorant immature comments to yourself. Talk to you when you graduate high school....
Fiend.....you SOUND like a male's VASCECTOMY is of the UTMOST importance.
Like "OH WELL, I'M PREGNANT, i GOTTA HAVE HIS BABY, THEN"
STOP BRINGING THESE KIDS INTO THIS WORLD just because1 YOU WERE ABLE TO GET PREGNANT
Women act like they ONLY got one shot at it and they GOTTA have the kid.
DAMN SHAME
You had other points but THAT point and HOW you said it HOLDS NO WATER
oh....looks like some juicy comments. I am going to have to go back and read the debate....LOL
This woman is grown and out of school and touring, so she will be taking care of herself and her own baby. She is not a HS chick, she is a grown woman living on her own...like it or not 18 is grown. Plus, she looks like she has tied the knot!!!
My question for MTO writers and editors:
How the hellz can you claim this as an "MTO WORLD EXCLUSIVE" when you basically just stole pics from another site that occurred at a PUBLIC event that y'all weren't invited to?
When y'all steal pics and stories and stamp your logo on it it doesn't mean count as an EXCLUSIVE.
Wow, just wow
LOLOLOL
Okay, just caught up...
@jt-money..not disputing with you. But where do we as a people stop reading the "statistic books" and look aaround us. How many people come to your door and ask you are you married, who do you plan on voting for, how many children have different fathers in you household. I am 30...uhhm something (let's not worry about that), but to this day, I have never been question for my opinion or my status by the Census department, CNN, FOX news, or Nightline. So where are they getting the stats that you read from? Has anyone else on this blog been questions.
I have to admit that it is harder raising a child alone. But please don't believe that because we are single families that it makes it harder in the "real" world for us to succeed. That is a statment I can't co-sign. It doesn't matter if you have a both a father or a mother, if you child is going to be lazy, or sexually active, or drop out of school. That is the childs decision. My mother had 3 children. I was the youngest, and yes all three were by different men, before it was so "popular". but guess what, I didn't need a father figure in my house....I have 7 Uncles and 2 Aunts and a slew of great uncles and Great Aunts when I was growing up. My mother weathered the finacial storm alone but had the support of her family. Guess where her children are today??? Two are success role models in society and the other is well to say it lightly a deadbeat. It had nothing to do with a lack of a father. It had to do with will.... I wanted to do better than my mother and provide for her, so that is just what I did. There are children from two family household that are doing worse than I am...it is not about how many parents you have in the house but what you teach your children while they are in the house. Sorry to disagree. But, I really don't like Statistics that much...I received a 2.8 on that class my junior year...I was always disagreeing with the Professor. I always beleived that the stas were about me and the people in my neighborhood. But I never, saw them collecting the data.
Not Stats just my opinion
Paris Bennet my girl! i only watched season 5 becuz of her! i got her video clips from the time the judges allowed her to go to hollywood to the end. i love this girl she is my american idol!! phuck carrie underwood kelly ruben fantasia jordin sparks taylor hicks and that dame david belpre or watever his name is PARIS BENNET ALL THE WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@mereeree
No stats indeed. One of the reasons it's important to look at research instead of only just relying on what's going in our little slice of the world is that what's happening in your neighborhood/school/family/personal situation may not be representative of the population at large.
Please re-read what I wrote here: <<Does this mean that every kid from a single-parent household is going to turn out badly or that every kid from a married household is gonna turn out well? Of course not. There are plenty of other factors and exceptions to everything. But it does mean that the CHANCES ARE MUCH LOWER for those born into single parent situations, esp black boys.>>
Poll questions? Try the census. Or statistical sampling. Also, there is plenty of data available about you without anyone asking you a question if you have been incarcerated, been in school or dropped out of school, been on public assistance, or otherwise interacted with "the system."
OK, I was gonna let the rest of what you said go because you at least had a polite tone, but, unfortunately I can't.
You said: <<It doesn't matter if you have a both a father or a mother, if you child is going to be lazy, or sexually active, or drop out of school. That is the childs decision.>>
That is utter nonsense. You are not born with a lazy gene (unless you are mentally handicapped) and your behavior is largely learned from the environment around you. Do we all have different personalities? Sure. But our values come from what we observe.
You said: <<Two are success role models in society and the other is well to say it lightly a deadbeat. It had nothing to do with a lack of a father. It had to do with will....>>
How do you know his "will" wasn't shaped by the fact that he had no father in his household growing up? Maybe if you were a man, you would have a better understanding of how boys learn to be men from their father figures.
You said: <<There are children from two family household that are doing worse than I am...it is not about how many parents you have in the house but what you teach your children while they are in the house.>>
Again, please re-read this - "Does this mean that every kid from a single-parent household is going to turn out badly or that every kid from a married household is gonna turn out well? Of course not. There are plenty of other factors and exceptions to everything. But it does mean that the CHANCES ARE MUCH LOWER for those born into single parent situations, esp black boys."
You said: <<I always beleived that the stas were about me and the people in my neighborhood. But I never, saw them collecting the data.>>
Just because nobody was asking you questions, doesn't mean there isn't plenty of data out there about you. There is.
@Fendifiend-I understand fully your point and you are right.
@ rexchap- Sweetie, you are forgetting that it takes two to make a baby. Honey,you must be a male chauvinist and you definitely see the glass as half empty instead of half full. Seriously instead of you coming on here bashing single mothers, you need to go see a head doctor and get you a prescription for some Risperdal for Schizophrenia or maybe some Lamotrigin for Manic Depression because you definitely have a problem. I feel sorry for your wife with your attitute. You probably are the type that raises all kinds of hell if she misses one day of cooking. Nutbag, get a life and stop being an azzhole. BTW, I was married before I had my daughter, but I have the sense and knowledge to realize that all situations have pros and cons and no situation is perfect; where there is positivity, someone is always going to find the negative in it or visa versa. Sweetie a debate class would eat your azz alive. Maybe you need to make a baby and chill out psycho!!!!!!!!
@jt-money..Ok, Ok. We are going to have to agree to disagree on this topic. As I stated I understand what you are writing, but again. This is not everyone, just my opinion. I don't agree with Statistic. Growing up, the majority of my area did not submit their federal taxes, did not pay the states taxes, or did not answer the door to the census worker. These are both people on and off public assistance. Even to this day, I can go to my home town and still see people like that. I didn't say all data was falsified, I just don't see how you came come with a complete statistic unless you query a large percentage of people.
When I refered to the statement about a child being lazy, worthless etc. i am not saying a child is born that way..I beleive that children learn they habits and between the age of 7-10 it has been instilled in their brain what kind of person they will be. If you don't beleive me then try to assume responsibility of a child that is 9-10 years of age that you have not raised. Their personalitly will will overpower you before you over power theirs. Children are more strong minded than I was when I was younger and society has changed. So when I say if they plan on dropping out of school or having sex, then that is just what I mean. Not that they are born to be stupid. Yes, children learn from the environment around them, but just because there is a mother and father does not make that a good environment...some of the worse children have come from two parent homes.
I chose to use myself as an example because I know my self and I know my family. My brother (the one who I referenced)was brought up because we were in the same house household and I know for a fact that he did not go without the male image in his life. he just chose to go another path in life..we were born in the days of punsihment and butt whoppings. We were shown that life had more to offer than corners and babies. But, he choose to answer to the calling of the streets. That was the choice that he made, not a choice that was forced on him from his upbring. This really doesn't have anything about being a man...to know the feeling of not having a father in my life. I didn't have my father in my life so I had the same problems that a my brother did. But like I said. I had the will to succeed, and he had the will to get over at any cost.
I told you I agree with the majority of what you said just not the Stats. Sometimes I beleive that people look so closely at our black families to see what is wrong in them that they overlook the families that are doing well.
My only reason for commenting is that I beleive that a single parent family works as well as a two parent family as long as the one parent is willing to expand their knowledge and raise their child to become upstanding adults. Of course, we will always have the children raising children..and when I say children raising children I do not mean age...I mean their intelligence level. So as long as we have these mothers/fathers wanting to be friends, go to the club, get high, and drink with their children then we will continue to have a repeating cycle of children raising children.
Oh, BTW..you are right about my comments. I don't have a reason to be rude. I respect everyones opinion regardless if I agree or disagree. that is why I come to MTO to read another persons views, because I live in my world and others in theirs. I cannot dictate what happens in your life nor yours mind. But all in all i like the conversation and I sit in a office for 12 hours watching AFN....I have no life at all.
@ The Anonymous Poster
Of course you want me to shut up because you can't make an intelligent counter-argument. Feel free to go back to being blissfully ignorant.
@ mereeree
Since I have raised two teenagers, I probably have a bit more knowledge on this subject than you do, but thanks for the polite response.
<<I beleive that children learn they habits and between the age of 7-10 it has been instilled in their brain what kind of person they will be. If you don't beleive me then try to assume responsibility of a child that is 9-10 years of age that you have not raised. Their personalitly will will overpower you before you over power theirs. Children are more strong minded than I was when I was younger and society has changed. So when I say if they plan on dropping out of school or having sex, then that is just what I mean. Not that they are born to be stupid. Yes, children learn from the environment around them, but just because there is a mother and father does not make that a good environment...some of the worse children have come from two parent homes.>>
The most powerful things in a child's environment are their parent(s) or lack thereof. Again, please see my earlier comments that every single-parent situation isn't necessarily worse than every two-parent situation.
<<I don't agree with Statistic. Growing up, the majority of my area did not submit their federal taxes, did not pay the states taxes, or did not answer the door to the census worker. These are both people on and off public assistance. Even to this day, I can go to my home town and still see people like that. I didn't say all data was falsified, I just don't see how you came come with a complete statistic unless you query a large percentage of people.>>
You aren't going to get far in too many arguments by discounting all statistics just because of what you witnessed or didn't witness in your neighborhoods. With statistical sampling, you can measure a community of a 1,000,000 people by sampling a small fraction of them. Again, this may explain why you personally didn't witness anyone asking questions in your neighborhoods. Most people don't see researchers in their neighborhoods, but that doesn't mean you aren't being measured.
<<My only reason for commenting is that I beleive that a single parent family works as well as a two parent family as long as the one parent is willing to expand their knowledge and raise their child to become upstanding adults.>>
No offense, but you really need to take a closer look at what is happening to our community. It is obvious why, in most situations, a two-parent situation would be better for a child. Two parents = two incomes. Two parents = one parent that can look after the kid(s) while the other is at work. Two parents = a male and female role model for the child. Two parents = two parents to look after the child at home.
It's really just common sense.
<<That was the choice that he made, not a choice that was forced on him from his upbring. This really doesn't have anything about being a man...to know the feeling of not having a father in my life.>>
Again, I'm not sure you really can relate to the effect that not having a father in the household has on a boy. It is a different experience from girls, though of equal importance.
@rexchap, the one thing I can agree with on your earlier comment, but maybe not in the same words, is that women need to learn the first time after they have a child with one man out of wedlock and be more careful and not do it over and over again and have multiple kids w/multiple dads. I don't feel there is much excuse for that.
I do believe that single mothers deserve respect BECAUSE they do it alone when they didn't actually lay down and DO it alone, but because a lot of men are irresponsible, the mothers are doing what they have to do. So really, most of the bashing going on should be done to the absent fathers not taking care of their responsibilities--not to the women who are stepping up and doing the best they can to fill both roles which is not what they should have to do. I think that most of us can say that we do know the statistics or at least agree that without 2 positive parents in the household, the child is more likely to have a more complicated adulthood or upbringing (especially boys with absent fathers). But when you come at it like, Eff all yall baby mommas and blah blah blah thats disrespectful, rude and uncalled for as long as we can say we are doing the best for our part to raise our children well. We can only do our part. And just because a child is born out of wedlock does not mean we are choosing single parenthood for life. I want to be married and when I do get married, after I find a positive male for myself and positive role model for my son, I won't be a single parent even though I brought a child into the world out of wedlock. So who are you against? All single mothers who have children out of wedlock? Or all single mothers who have children out of wedlock and never get married?
Also, I think a lot of us would have felt a lot better if you would have shown that you don't just have a problem with the mothers who have children out of wedlock, but the fathers too. You seem to have just came out against the single mothers/You didn't say Eff all yall baby daddies, just the baby mommas. Maybe you have a chip on your shoulder or a scorned past involving a single mother or "baby momma". Think about that-otherwise why are you just targeting us?
On another note, I have a problem with the way you are calling single mothers "nasty" for letting dudes "splash" in them. I don't understand that because there probably are not many people who are sexually active who have never had unprotected sex. I am a single mother of one and my son's father and I had sex tons of times with protection and only had sex without once or twice when I got pregnant and we were in a serious committed relationship, so I don't think it's "nasty". If you can say that you never "splashed" in a girl without protection before you were married--good, you did everything right but if not, that must make you a "nasty bitch" too. The judgment passing is truly not called for if you are not God himself. What if everybody started judging all sins in all aspects of life--then you would be upset because you not perfect (nobody is). So don't tell us not to get defensive because when people judge you for not "doing the right thing" or "being perfect" in a certain aspect of life, that's what you do. It's human nature. You defend yourself.
the name is tiickl3mii3lmo, get it right, if you're too dumb to spell it just copy and paste stupid ass! you need to take your own advice and stop tryna insult someone over the net. im not being immature im stating my opinion if you dont like it then you can walk cuz i dont give a rat's ass! damn you need a life! damn near 30 years old and your hiding behind a computer trying to argue with a 16 year old on the internet! you need to do some growing up yourself! LOL!
@jt-money...ok, ok. I understand your point, but everyplace is different. I don't we will agree, I just don't feel that surveying a percentage of people in a area will provide you with statistical overview of a popluation of people.
As for my community, I not only take a close look at my community, but I also look at the communities surrounding the area where I have lived and live currently and that is where I get my views from. Maybe are communities are so unlike that we cannot see the same view.
People always say that a man needs his father to become a man but I don't agree with that. You don't need your father but you need a male role model. I am no different than a man that was raised without his father..I feel the same pain and abandoment issues that a man would feel. I think in a perfect society we want both mother and fathers in the home with there children...but sometimes that doesn't happen. So, we are left with single family households. this has not just happened over night, it has been going on since before the days of slavery and it will continue until the end of time. But, my main point throughout our discussion is that a one parent household does not automatically mean you are a loss cause and that does not mean that you will end up in jail, or on drugs etc. You stated that not all families are ruined by the single parent theory. I just wanted to make the statement that single parent families do work...
JT...it was nice discussing this with you. I usually make comments and then move on because I don't like going back and forth or partaking in the abusive conversation. So, I will look forward to disagreeing with you in the future...for tomorrow I have a plane to catch and I will catch up with you in a few days. Today is my happy day....leaving Afghanistan for good!!!
