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TIME TO INVEST YOUR MONEY PEOPLE!!
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Oh hilary....
MTO is probably taking it too far, i want to hear her statements for myself |
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what a stupid bitch |
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Damn i thought i was 2nd |
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She's gonna lose more voters now! Crybaby!
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I really hope this SH!T aint true. If it is then she single handedly destroyed all the respect and love that we had for the Clinton family! Say it aint so Hillary Kramer... |
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And she's absolutely right. Even the bible says faith without works is dead. It took someone with the power to make the change and the knowledge of how to make the change in order to bring that to fruition. |
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I'm confused, she states a historical fact and somehow mto paints her as the wicked witch of the east. what did she say that was so insulting |
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If you pay attention all she is saying is that Dr. King started the act, but it took a good president to make he dream come true, which means the president supported he cause. Get off her back women and children need the good assistance she's speaking about. |
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Well I guess your dream of becoming the first lesbian president will never happen. You just insulted every backer u had, u dumb b.i.t.c.h. |
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the fact that mto continues to quote foxnews tells me all i need to know |
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Keep sleeping on Obama. If this is truly what Hillary said, it wouldn't be the first time she's slipped up and said something that she shouldn't have. But hey, I'm not voting for her. |
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Can everyone chill for a moment and let's go to the history books. The assasination of Kennedy and MLK were the main drivers for the Civil Rights Act. Is this not a historic FACT |
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oh mto...blowing it up waaay too much. let me know wen she picks her nose. |
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thats why that bitch is losing right now...[EXPLETIVE] her |
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Belieive me... if MTO has anything to do with this, I KNOW it was taken out of context. I'd rather hear the ENTIRE interview before I draw my conclusions. Why in hell would Hilary say (or mean) anything so reckless so close to the elections and with Obama leading... it doesn't add up. Not to mention, it seems to me (from that tiny text that MTO decided to post) that her point was more towards President Johnson and his term, than trying to attack MLK.
Don't get me wrong, I am a true blue Obama supporter ;) but fair is fair and I think MTO took her comments way out of context and out of proportion. |
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And....??? Sorry but that's how our country works. If Pres. Johnson didn't pass MLK dream into law then who knows where we'd be. MTO, always does this ish, do they not know that Pres. and congress has to pass laws to make them laws. All laws start with an idea, hence, MLK's DREAM!! |
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Please tell me you guys are not that ignorant to take that comment out of conyext and run with it like that. And all you co-signers should be ashamed of yourselves. That woman in no way minimized Dr. King in that statement. MLK himself admits it was just a dream. But a president who shared the vision to some extent helped make the dream a reality. That's all she said. Grow up. Listen up. Smarten up. |
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I saw the comments when she said it. Is she effing stupid????
Dr King worked to realize his dream. And to basically say the president made it happen is a slap in the face to every black person who was killed, had dogs sicked on them, and resisted fire hoses. I hope those house nukkas who are backing Hillary come to their senses and realize that his woman will stoop to the lowest levels just to score political points.
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I just lost MAD respect for her. How dare she say some s/h/i/t like that? He did alot and if that damn James Earl Ray (the man that assassinated him, for ya'll who didn't know) hadn't killed him so early in his quest to make his dream a reality, more would have been done. She had alot of the black community on her side because of her husband, but now when this s/h/i/t hits the fan, she's gonna lose a TON of support, cause ain't nobody else really checking for her to become president. |
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I find nothing in her statement to be inappropiate.. |
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This isnt really saying what MTO is making it out to say in the headline. It doesn't matter anyway she is not winning. She already crying and spazing out showing just why they don't want a female president. Obama in 08'!!!!! |
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mto takes distortion to a whole 'nother level
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have you no shame! |
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not_1_2_hate Flag post
Please tell me you guys are not that ignorant to take that comment out of conyext and run with it like that. And all you co-signers should be ashamed of yourselves. That woman in no way minimized Dr. King in that statement. MLK himself admits it was just a dream. But a president who shared the vision to some extent helped make the dream a reality. That's all she said. Grow up. Listen up. Smarten up.
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Wow I hate ppl who take anythin and turn it into an insult just like what MTO did, she wasent downplayin MLK's role as a leader, i totally get what she meant, geesh MTO |
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When a person is losing the most important race in their minds and the history of "America." It only seems right and befitting to them to degrade and subtract from one of the most important and influential persons in the history of African-American history. And, as much as it would be a wondrous event to witness a WOMAN, no matter what her race is win the presedency election. I have an obligation and duty as a person of COLOR first and then a WOMAN to vote the best person in office.
*Note*--to all of you that are elegible to vote, please do so and do so with wisdom. |
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how many of us know who ladybird was? let's pretend like we understand our history, huh? don't buy into this fauxnews crap because it realllly makes us look stupid |
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I have no problem with Hillary's words. MLK had inspiring words, but LBJ had the political muscle to push through the legislation. Check your history books people. It was 1964 and MLK didn't have clout on Capitol Hill. |
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This is saying anything bad about Dr. Martin Luther King. It is just saying that his dream was being recognized "FINALLY" when Lyndon B. Johnson signed the "CIVIL RIGHTS ACT". |
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God, with every insult that i see being thrown at her i am really feeling embarrased to be a black person [sigh]. i'm willing to bet there are a room full of white folk snickering their azz off right now.
Those who are unable to put it into a historic context continue to insult her. I'm sure you are giving someone a real good chuckle. I can hear them now, "what silly negros" [sigh]. |
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Hillary is now showing her weakness when this is when she is to be so strong. Obama is ahead right now so she is gonna do what white folks do best, try to bring his intelligence down by saying a comment like this. If it was not for Martin Luther King and others fighting for the equal of people not just blacks. And if it was not for Dr. King being the man he was where would we be. But I bet you Hillary and Bill used the civil rights era in Bills campaign if we were to back-track everything the bithch said to win the black vote, on her campaign.
OBAMA not because he's Black but Because he's Right!! |
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Patricia Flag post
I have no problem with Hillary's words. MLK had inspiring words, but LBJ had the political muscle to push through the legislation. Check your history books people. It was 1964 and MLK didn't have clout on Capitol Hill.
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Looks like she just lost herself an election. Hillary Clinton don't like black people. :)
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NOTICE...how MTO is providing NOOOOO proof...I went to fox new's web site search and could find NOTHING...give me solid evidence...come on black folks u can't take everything for face value, u need HARDCORE EVIDENCE!!!!!! |
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MLK gave this speech in 1963 and to this day all it's still a dream in certain parts of the United States. We (people of color) have come far but don't get too happy 'cause it's NOWHERE far enough. One other thing, get out and VOTE! but know what he stands for instead of "its TIME for a black president". |
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She didn't take anything away from Dr. King, Jr. She just said that there was a president in place that allowed some of the dream to take place. Therefore she is saying that a president has to be in place now to keep it going. Where did ya'll get your degree MTO! MTO stop trying to get people hating Hilary! |
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@ essenceof
i don't think there is any hope on this one...too many black folk on here that are not in tune with their history [sigh]. |
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Yeah, it does embarrass me. Hillary spoke in context of the times. She in no way minimized Martin Luther King. All she stated was that Lyndon Johnson pushed the Civil Rights Legislation through. A black man in 1964 America had no power on Capitol Hill.
And for those who are all in Obama's ass right now, exactly what has Obama said in those speeches. The man can deliver a speech, but when you stop and actually think, he didn't say much. H |
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and the said part about it is hillary is in crash and burn mode. mto doesn't need to distort her words in order to play a role in her demise today, she's already losing in the new hampshire polls. why pile on? |
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Since MLK was brought up, here's his speech:
I am happy to join with you today in what will go down in history as the greatest demonstration for freedom in the history of our nation.
Five score years ago, a great American, in whose symbolic shadow we stand today, signed the Emancipation Proclamation. This momentous decree came as a great beacon light of hope to millions of Negro slaves who had been seared in the flames of withering injustice. It came as a joyous daybreak to end the long night of captivity.
But one hundred years later, the Negro still is not free. One hundred years later, the life of the Negro is still sadly crippled by the manacles of segregation and the chains of discrimination. One hundred years later, the Negro lives on a lonely island of poverty in the midst of a vast ocean of material prosperity. One hundred years later, the Negro is still languished in the corners of American society and finds himself in exile in his own land. So we have come here today to dramatize an shameful condition.
In a sense we've come to our nation's Capital to cash a check. When the architects of our republic wrote the magnificent words of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, they were signing a promissory note to which every American was to fall heir.
This note was a promise that all men, yes, black men as well as white men, would be guaranteed the unalienable rights of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
It is obvious today that America has defaulted on this promissory note insofar as her citizens of color are concerned. Instead of honoring this sacred obligation, America has given the Negro people a bad check; a check which has come back marked "insufficient funds."
But we refuse to believe that the bank of justice is bankrupt. We refuse to believe that there are insufficient funds in the great vaults of opportunity of this nation. So we have come to cash this check- a check that will give us upon demand the riches of freedom and the security of justice.
We have also come to this hallowed spot to remind America of the fierce urgency of now. This is no time to engage in the luxury of cooling off or to take the tranquilizing drug of gradualism.
Now is the time to make real the promises of democracy. Now is the time to rise from the dark and desolate valley of segregation to the sunlit path of racial justice. Now is the time to lift our nation from the quicksands of racial injustice to the solid rock of brotherhood. Now is the time to make justice a reality for all of God's children.
It would be fatal for the nation to overlook the urgency of the moment. This sweltering summer of the Negro's legitimate discontent will not pass until there is an invigorating autumn of freedom and equality. Nineteen sixty-three is not an end, but a beginning. Those who hope that the Negro needed to blow off steam and will now be content will have a rude awakening if the nation returns to business as usual. There will be neither rest nor tranquility in America until the Negro is granted his citizenship rights. The whirlwinds of revolt will continue to shake the foundations of our nation until the bright day of justice emerges.
But there is something that I must say to my people who stand on the warm threshold which leads into the palace of justice. In the process of gaining our rightful place we must not be guilty of wrongful deeds. Let us not seek to satisfy our thirst for freedom by drinking from the cup of bitterness and hatred. We must forever conduct our struggle on the high plane of dignity and discipline. We must not allow our creative protest to degenerate into physical violence. Again and again we must rise to the majestic heights of meeting physical force with soul force.
The marvelous new militancy which has engulfed the Negro community must not lead us to a distrust of all white people, for many of our white brothers, as evidenced by their presence here today, have come to realize that their destiny is tied up with our destiny. And they have come to realize that their freedom is inextricably bound to our freedom. We cannot walk alone.
And as we walk, we must make the pledge that we shall march ahead. We cannot turn back. There are those who are asking the devotees of civil rights, "When will you be satisfied?"
We can never be satisfied as long as the Negro is the victim of the unspeakable horrors of police brutality.
We can never be satisfied as long as our bodies, heavy with the fatigue of travel, cannot gain lodging in the motels of the highways and the hotels of the cities.
We cannot be satisfied as long as the Negro's basic mobility is from a smaller ghetto to a larger one.
We can never be satisfied as long as our chlidren are stripped of their selfhood and robbed of their dignity by signs stating "for whites only."
We cannot be satisfied as long as a Negro in Mississippi cannot vote and a Negro in New York believes he has nothing for which to vote.
No, no, we are not satisfied, and we will not be satisfied until justice rolls down like waters and righteousness like a mighty stream.
I am not unmindful that some of you have come here out of great trials and tribulations. Some of you have come fresh from narrow jail cells. Some of you have come from areas where your quest for freedom left you battered by the storms of persecution and staggered by the winds of police brutality. You have been the veterans of creative suffering. Continue to work with the faith that unearned suffering is redemptive.
Go back to Mississippi, go back to Alabama, go back to South Carolina, go back to Georgia, go back to Louisiana, go back to the slums and ghettos of our northern cities, knowing that somehow this situation can and will be changed. Let us not wallow in the valley of despair.
I say to you today, my friends, so even though we face the difficulties of today and tomorrow, I still have a dream. It is a dream deeply rooted in the American dream.
I have a dream that one day this nation will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident; that all men are created equal."
I have a dream that one day on the red hills of Georgia the sons of former slaves and the sons of former slave owners will be able to sit down together at the table of brotherhood.
I have a dream that one day even the state of Mississippi, a state sweltering with the heat of injustice, sweltering with the heat of oppression, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and justice.
I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character.
I have a dream today.
I have a dream that one day down in Alabama, with its vicious racists, with its governor having his lips dripping with the words of interposition and nullification, that one day right down in Alabama little black boys and black girls will be able to join hands with little white boys and white girls as sisters and brothers.
I have a dream today.
I have a dream that one day every valley shall be exhalted, every hill and mountain shall be made low, the rough places will be made plain, and the crooked places will be made straight, and the glory of the Lord shall be revealed, and all flesh shall see it together.
This is our hope. This is the faith that I will go back to the South with. With this faith we will be able to hew out of the mountain of despair a stone of hope. With this faith we will be able to transform the jangling discords of our nation into a beautiful symphony of brotherhood.
With this faith we will be able to work together, to pray together, to struggle together, to go to jail together, to stand up for freedom together, knowing that we will be free one day.
This will be the day when all of God's children will be able to sing with new meaning, "My country 'tis of thee, sweet land of liberty, of thee I sing. Land where my fathers died, land of the Pilgrims' pride, from every mountainside, let freedom ring."
And if America is to be a great nation, this must become true. So let freedom ring from the prodigious hilltops of New Hampshire. Let freedom ring from the mighty mountains of New York. Let freedom ring from the heightening Alleghenies of Pennsylvania.
Let freedom ring from the snow-capped Rockies of Colorado. Let freedom ring from the curvaceous slopes of California. But not only that; let freedom ring from the Stone Mountain of Georgia. Let freedom ring from Lookout Mountain of Tennessee.
Let freedom ring from every hill and molehill of Mississippi. From every mountainside, let freedom ring.
And when this happens, and when we allow freedom ring, when we let it ring from every village and every hamlet, from every state and every city, we will be able to speed up that day when all of God's children, black men and white men, Jews and gentiles, Protestants and Catholics, will be able to join hands and sing in the words of the old Negro spiritual, "Free at last! Free at last! Thank God Almighty, we are free at last!"
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Great hard core you can copy and paste!! Good 4 you, now what do you think of Hillary's comments. |
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and the really really sad part of it all is how hard is it to pick up a history book and read. now-a-days it isn't even that much trouble, you can google. it. sad sad sad, and disappointing. I’m feeling a little discouraged with our people right now…think i’ll take a short break.
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Motivation and action takes place because of a persons hopes and dreams...I will not take what Hillary said to be an insult but I will say that her statement is more of a reason why we should have a president like Barack Obama who has hopes and dreams and with the title of president can makes those hopes and dreams a reality. We will no longer have to look to 'others' to make our dreams come true...
Cat4everrr...i know your questions wasn't to me but I would NEVER be embarrassed to be black...what embarrasses me is when I hear other blacks say they are embarrassed to be black and care about what the whites in the other room is thinking about us...whites have ignorant people also but rarely do i hear them say they are embarrassed to be white... |
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I agree with all your statements! People are so quick to just believe anything! Honestly, what changes could MLK Jr. have made without Washington. There had to be laws in place that affected that change. |
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I agree with you Patricia, Hillary in no way was taking away from MLK. Reading some of these comments from people on here is sickening. MLK had a dream a GREAT on...LBJ realized that and made MLK's dream a reality...think about it, Hillary is saying she can one day be the power that LBJ had to make DREAMS that benefit all us a reality. D@MN people, think before you type! Our problem as a society is that we NEVER analyze things, we just always react, thats gonna always hold us back! |
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Cat4everrr...i know your questions wasn't to me but I would NEVER be embarrassed to be black...what embarrasses me is when I hear other blacks say they are embarrassed to be black and care about what the whites in the other room is thinking about us...whites have ignorant people also but rarely do i hear them say they are embarrassed to be white...
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i'm embarrassed because it's becoming glaringly obvious that their are a good number of us on this website who are unaware of thier history. to top that off, you know as well as i do that thre are white folk right now who are ROTF because of it. IT MAKES US LOOK STUPID |
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Well I have no problem with hillary's statement because she never had MY vote in the first place
I am going to vote for Obama just because he is part black
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http://www.slate.com/id/2165717
http://www.blackprof.com/archives/2007/05/should_obamas_kids_get_affirma.html
MTO is taking Hillary’s statement out of context I may vote for her because I agree with her stance on affirmative action and what she will do to preserve Dr. Kings dream while she is president.
Pls read the links above. I donated to Obama's campaign before these news stories broke that he is not a proponent of race based affirmative action and now I am not so sure that I can still support him. Because due to racism that still exists in this country affirmative action is still needed to help blacks gain employment and equal access to education. We can not allow our affirmative action programs to include poor whites as Obama appears to be considering. Our forefathers fought and died during the civil rights movement for equal access to jobs, that affirmative action is supposed to help enforce and we can not loose these gains, due to the lack of support of our "own" (Obama) politicians. I am not sure why Obama does not appear to have the same concern as many African Americans do regarding the need to safe guard the few gains that we have received due to affirmative action. Can it be that he is out of touch with the Afro- American community because of his upbringing (raised by white family) or privileged life or not being a descendent of slaves? Because of this reason and others I may vote for Clinton, although she is white she agrees with maintaining race based affirmative action, from what I have read.
Black Dr.s and Lawyers couldn’t even get a decent job before the civil rights movement and affirmative action. Many black Dr.s , lawyers and professionals were porters on trains, due to racism. Many of our people could not feed their families. This racism still exists; many Afro- Americans would not be hired today, even though they are the best candidate for the job if it were not for corporation’s affirmative action initiatives. Whites tend to hire whites even unqualified whites.
Would you vote for Clarence Thomas or anyone who you think may sell you out just because they are black?
Pls read this link http://www.slate.com/id/2165717
An excerpt is below we can not allow white racists to use Obama against us to end race based affirmative action. As African Americans we need our jobs and our small businesses, whites usually hire even unqualified whites and white corporations tend to purchase their goods from white businesses owners. Race based affirmative action is still needed.
The End of Affirmative Action--First Alterman, Now Obama? Even Barack Obama, under pressure from George Stephanopoulos, seemed to be abandoning the affirmative action idea and shifting toward embracing a class-based preference system, notes Roger Clegg. ... This is more than a potential 'Sister Souljah moment' for Obama. Obama would not be showing that he can reject the more extreme, wacky positions of his party's component interest groups. He'd be showing he's rejecting what has been a central and widely accepted demand of an interest group with which he is inevitably identified. He's not quite there yet--and maybe he'll have to backtrack after his ABC This Week comments--but he's at least on the verge of giving voters not merely a reason to not oppose him, but a big reason to support him--the prospect that President Obama will end race preferences and the long, divisive debate they generate. Hillary cannot make that promise. Her husband famously balked at making exactly the shift--from race to class--that Obama seemed to endorse. And even if Hillary made that leap, she couldn't shift African-American opinion away from race preferences the way a black president could shift African-American opinion. She can't put the issue to rest. Obama can. ... P.S.: I blame Jennifer Gratz. Michigan's stunning 2006 anti-preference vote is still resonating. Pols paid attention even if the press didn't. ...
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MTO- What if Barack doesn't get the nomination and Hilary does? Who will you vote for? I am so tired of us black people thinking we should vote for Barack just because he is black. Do you guys even listen to the debates? Is he truly the best candidate? Well I for one will be voting for Hilary and I know lots of people here in Dallas Texas will be voting for her too... Is her campaign a wrap?
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Sexychick you are the reason that some ppl should not be allowed to vote. You sound real stupid with that statement, damn even if that is your reason maybe you should spend some damn time listening to his speech b/c he has MANY great reasons to vote for him. You prob. won't vote anyway......... |
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I'm very sure you are not Black!
You are a white Man or Women trying to play us! Guess what it is not WORKING!
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This is rediculous to take that woman's words out of context like that.... I'm not co-signing with MTO on this one... these are rediculous falsehoods and all the woman was saying was Lyndon Johnson was the last president capable of making Dr. King's Dream a reality... It really was a side swipe at Obama... Let these folks battle and cut the bull MTO! ...After the primaries are done whoever wins out of both is a good look to me! |
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Without a vision the people perish. I have not heard the interview but even if the wording is verbatim, she should have stated it another way. If Dr. King had not polarized the Black population of America and helped us realize that we truly have a voice then President Johnson would not have had a reason to pass any legislation to try to bring about change. I believe that change was inevitable. If you have never had the opportunity, I encourage you to make a trip to Memphis to visit the Civil Rights Museum. It will really motivate and inspire you to raise your social consciencness. To look at the hotel room where Dr. King last stayed, the balcony where he was shot and the window where he was shot from as well as other remnents and artifacts of the Civil Rights movement. It is truly amazing. |
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I think what looks and sounds stupid is hearing a black person say that they care about what whites think of them...i've always hated comments like that and I still do...i could care less about what white people think of our race. Yes I would like for ignorant people to gain knowledge about their history but I want those that don't know to become aware for only that reason and NOT because we are an embarrassment and the other races are laughing at us. F/uck them...be smart to be smart and to know your history. Read up and learn to better yourself not for white people and because you care about what they think of us...that is my only point. |
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the fact is, Hillary is discrediting the efforts that MLK brought forth. MLK was a strong leader and if it wasn't for his voice, the president may have brushed it off. Inequality had been going on a long time before leaders like MLK came forth. I think that she should have reworded that because it does look like MLK did nothing but dream, like MTO has in its title. |
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I saw her driving down 19th and Peachtree, the other day, headed toward's Justin's.
Go figure!
MTO, I will need to read the ENTIRE transcript form the show and not just excerpts....in order to make an informed decision.
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What hillary is trying to say is not nice! She is trying to say that " Blacks" can talk and dream as much as they want to, but only "whites" can make their dreams come through by favor. Hillary, don't you ever make comments like that again! and a matter of fact, Obama can do it. I am not races and sure is not Obama. But quit making races comments like that when your campainging. Maybe you wanna turn that quote you made around. |
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What Lyndon Baines Johnson did was courageous--Politically. He knew that by signing the legislation he signed that he was handing the south to the republicans on a silver platter. It takes political courage to do that. But thats his job, to protect all Americans even if its not politically popular. Thats why we celebrate Martin Luther Kings birthday instead of Lyndon Johnson's. The works of Martin Luther King and others made the president act.
Like I said, I SAW and HEARD what she said, she said it in a way to connect Martin Luther King dreaming with Barack Obama hoping and that someone who is great at hoping and dreaming is short on action.
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If Dr. King had not polarized the Black population of America and helped us realize that we truly have a voice then President Johnson would not have had a reason to pass any legislation to try to bring about change.
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@ gemini615
SPEAK FOR YOURSELF. I'M GETTING TIRED OF SOME OF THESE IGNORANT FOLKS. THESE ARE THE SAME FOLK WHO ARE ON THIS SITE BAD MOUTHING JESSE JACKSON, A MAN WHO HAS HAD BRICKS THROWN AT HIS HEAD, A MAN WHO HAD DOGS BITING ON HIM, A MAN WHO HAS HAD HIS FAMILY THREATENED. AND WHY DO THEY DO IT? I'LL TELL YOU WHY- BECAUSE FOXNEWS TOLD THEM TO THINK THAT WAY. TAKE THIS THREAD FOR EXAMPLE, HOW EASY WAS IT FOR MTO TO SWAY SOME OF THESE PEOPLE WHEN THE FACTS LAY BEAR FOR ALL TO SEE IN OUR HISTORY BOOKS AND THEY FELL FOR IT HOOK LINE AND SINKER. I'M SICK OF IT AND YES IT IS EMBARRASING. IF NOTHING ELSE LEARN YOUR HISTORY OUT OF RESPECT FOR THOSE WHO GAVE THEIR LIFE SO WE COULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE.........SHEEES[SPAM]H
IF THIS SOUNDS NEGATIVE THEN I APOLOGIZE BUT IT IS EXTREMELY DISHEARTNING TO ME. WHAT IN THE HECK DID THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACTIVIST GIVE SO MUCH FOR WHEN OUR SPOILED GENERATION DOES NOTHING MORE THAN TAKE IT FOR GRANTED |
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OH WOW! MTO shut up with the BS! Voting for someone just because they are half black is RACIST! But guess what Fred you can vote for Barack all you want because he will never in his half black life be president! The illuminati already have their next president! And he isn't half black! |
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WOW...sometimes i forget how judgemental people can be, first Hillary is to hardcore and people doesn't think she has a heart, NOW...she got a little teary eyed when talking to the people...NOW people saying she is weak...D@MN what da F*CK does she have to do. She got emotional because she was speaking of all the oppurtunities this country has brought to her...and FYI BILL CLINTON has said on several occasions...even when he was president, that Hillary gave him great insight and ideas when he was president. And I would hope the highly educated people on here are throughly doing thier research before they past judgement, set an example for some of these fools on here on run this MTO gossip, its an entertainment site, yeah its funny, but don't take this BS at face value. |
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Overall...Hillary cannot be president...She's too damn emotional...I was watching a video of her yesterday, someone asked her a question about God knows what(something about healthcare). ..and she breaks down and damn near cries in the middle of her answer.. The other candidates (male) were looking at her like, "Damn, are you on your period again today..?" I'm a female and I'm down with the "power to women" thing and all that, but this chick is NOT "doing the damn thing...".. The fate of the US should not be left in her hands...she might feel to emotional one day and hit that red button and BAM! it's all over.... |
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I'm sorry my black people but the saying goes if you want to keep something from a [EXPLETIVE] hide it in a book. but in this case people we read but did not comprehend what was stated. its clear that clinton feels the "Dream" was not brought to life until the powers that be made it possible. it has nothing to do with the legacy and hard work of Dr. King. Its true. hell its on paper. my people we need to really stop letting the media dictate our every thought and feeling. i'm sure some have read and paid it no mind and some just read the title and couldn't wait to find something to bring light towards Obama. but lets be real for one moment. the speech was clear as the day he spoke it on. "I Have A Dream"...Idea, thought, Plan.......did he have power to make this happen at that time? Hell No and (sorry for this statement) thats why was taken from us. but one of the leaders odf this country felt what was started in that dream needed to be brought to reality, which brings the civil rights act of 1964. damn! MTO thank you for placing a mirror towards our blindness and your lack of journalism. we all should be one. don't trust no ones info but your own. |
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I can only speak for myself...
Also...your last comment said nothing about whites and what they think of us...you could have made this statement from the beginning because I agree with what you are saying MINUS your caring so much about white people's perception of us.
You want to talk about ignorance...i believe ignorance is also when people CARE about what white people think of them and their race. White's don't care about what we think of them...why should we? |
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IT'S REAL FUNNY NOW. HAHAHA BUT DID YOU KNOW THAT YOU RIGHT TO VOTE IS NOT NECESSARILY GAUREENTEED ON THE CONSTITUTION AND IT COMES UP FOR A VOTE EVER FEW YEARS. LETS SEE HOW FUNNY CRAP IS IF IT SHOULD COME TO PASS THAT SOME DAY YOU LOSE YOUR RIGHT TO VOTE. AND WITH SOME OF THE IGNORANCE THAT I SEE GOING ON HERE IT'S QUITE POSSIBLE |
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And I'm tired of black people not voting for Obama because he is black. You have less faith in his ability despite his stellar background and many years as a CIVIL RIGHTS attorney. What the hell is wrong with you people? You have so internalized the hatred for black people and the questioning of blacks' ability that you have extended that in this campaign. Despite that, there are people who believe that Obama is better--namely, white America. They are voting for him more than you dummies. You will continue to be racially profiled, harassed, go to subpar schools, yet not vote for a candidate who expressly intends on changing that. You are real dummies. |
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The Civil rights movement is no different in actions from the freeing of the slaves. You may have a president that passes a bill, but please believe me that it was never initiated by that presedents moral actions, but because of a movement. Lydon Johnson may be same time of president as Abraham Lincoln. Do you think that Lincoln would ever have pushed to free the slaves if he did not see the vision, this in no way credits him as anti slavery, but simply as a man with foresite set on delivering on the demands of the nation. To credit Lyndon and discredit Martin Luther King Jr, is the same as saying that researcher is less influential than the presenter. Hiliary falls into the same complex that white America has been trapped in, which being able to see beyond their own ego. If MLK jr. had never established this united front and garnered the respect of the nation, there would never be a movement for Lyndon to sign off on; cause God knows he would never have the balls or even for that matter the sense of urgency to create such a movement. MLK Jr. has done what 95% of our population will not do, stand up to a bully, with a non-violent approach.
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OH WOW! MTO shut up with the BS! Voting for someone just because they are half black is RACIST! But guess what Fred you can vote for Barack all you want because he will never in his half black life be president! The illuminati already have their next president! And he isn't half black! |
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don't believe everything you read. where are the facts. look @ the facts. research each canidate and make a judgement on your own. don't listen to everyone's opinion get your own. there are SOME decent canidates in the running for President. read, research, and make your own decision.
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I can not believe people are so gullible now a days. When will everyone stop believing what someone else say and seek the truth for your self? Although I am for Obama, H. Clinton was in no way was speaking down or saying that Dr. King was not fruitful. MLK knew that his hopes could only come alive if someone who had more power than he did push his hopes, which was the President of our country at the time, to make changes. In essence, minorities (people of color) need the help of the majority for us to have equality. If you look at H.Clinton’s track record and what she has voted on in the past as a Senator you all would know that her words were taken out of content only for MTO to have ANOTHER bogus story as they sometimes do. People please start reading and comprehending for yourself and stop having someone else paint a picture for you. |
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This is the entire quote on Hillary:
In an interview with Fox News Political Correspondent Major Garrett — the second in as many days — Clinton also took issue with Barack Obama’s dismissal of her claim that he represents “false hope;” Obama says that argument is like Martin Luther King standing at the Lincoln Memorial in Washington and saying “sorry guys, false hope. The dream will die.”
Clinton said “Dr King’s dream began to be realized when President Lyndon Johnson passed the civil rights act of 1964… That dream became a reality, the power of that dream became real in people’s lives because we had a president who said ‘we’re going to do it,’ and actually got it done.”
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I think Hillary is falling apart because Obama is kicking her butt big time. She thought she would have an easy ride being the wife of "SLICK BILL" but then here come my man Obama with the energy and the drive and speaking power of Dr.King himself. I think Obama will be the Dem. choice and I'm wishing him the best!! |
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To all you dummies defending this broad: MLK did a lot more than make some dumb speech about a f'in dream. If YOU knew about history you would know that Lyndon Johnson could not pass the act because 1) Congress makes the laws. He merely did not veto it. Besides, there was overwhelming pressure to create the laws because of civil unrest (not to mention communism) that MLK and others exploited. FYI, MLK did have a plan, and if you did the miniscule research involved with googling said plan, you'd free yourself from believing that whitey was there to save the Negro. By the way, A-Rapper you're an idiot. |
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muscle man seems like the only voice of logic on this board
the rest of yall read one sentence that could be cut and pasted and react like fools.
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I SAW HER ON THE NEWS WHEN SHE MADE THE STATEMENT, IT WAS NOT SO MUCH WHAT SHE SAID, BUT HOW HER TONE JUST DISMISSED THE ACTIONS, LIFE AND DREAM OF MLK
THIS IS JUST THE BEGINNING OF HER SHOWING HER TRUE COLORS TOWARD BLACKS
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That's bullsh*t MTO. I hate racists. Don't blindly support Obama because he's black. Don't cut down Hillary Clinton, a woman who supported the president (Bill Clinton) that has more for black people than any other president. When the time comes to cast your vote, I hope that you vote for the best viable candidate republican or democrat, Obama or Clinton... |
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To all you dummies defending this broad: MLK did a lot more than make some dumb speech about a f'in dream. If YOU knew about history you would know that Lyndon Johnson could not pass the act because 1) Congress makes the laws. He merely did not veto it. Besides, there was overwhelming pressure to create the laws because of civil unrest (not to mention communism) that MLK and others exploited. FYI, MLK did have a plan, and if you did the miniscule research involved with googling said plan, you'd free yourself from believing that whitey was there to save the Negro. By the way, A-Rapper you're an idiot.
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WHATTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF A PERSON THAT IS UNAWARE OF THEIR HISTORY. DID YOU KNOW THAT LBJ WAS CONSIDERED A KINGMAKER AT THAT TIME BECAUSE HE COULD TWIST JUST ABOUT ANYONE'S ARMS IN THE SENATE DUE TO THE RELATIONSHIPS HE HAD FORMED WHILE SERVING HIMSELF. FOR GOD'S SAKE LISTEN TO THE MAN IN ACTION FOR YOURSELF. GO TO CSPAN AND LISTEN TO THE LBJ TAPES ITS FREEEEEEEE! ANOTHER OPTION IS TO GO TO LBJ'S OFFICIAL WEBSITE, THEY CARRY SOME OF THE TAPES OR YOU CAN ORDER THEM |
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I'm not so sure about this one MTO...
But she is a crook, is full of sh*t and may turn out to be worse than that dam Bush... |
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LMAO at MTO when they said "Its officially a wrap for her campaign" Thats some funny [EXPLETIVE]. Oh yeah and SREW HER! That bitch aint gonna win anyway! We need a BLACK PRESIDENT! Thats what we need. Or better yet... A BLACK FEMALE PRESIDENT! Anyway I dont care as long as the next president is black. We need to prove to some people that NOT ONLY WHITE people can be leaders.. Blacks can too. As a matter of fact.. any race can. Black, Indian, Spanish.. ANYONE. Not just white people. |
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'Ladybird' was President Lyndon Johnson's wife.
I agree with what you are saying.
How to make a 'Dream' a reality?
Take the first step by passionately voicing your 'Dream' to those around you. Then enlist people who can help you make 'The Dream'come true.
We need 'People' to help us bring our Visions and Goals to Life. We cannot do it ALL on our own. There is no shame in this!!!
This is how you get things DONE!!!
It takes a very insightful, intelligent and courageous person be able to pull ALL TYPES OF PEOPLE TOGETHER and make their 'Dreams' happen.
This is what MLK did!!! This was the type of person MLK was!!!
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Annie, you only have one point and that's about Congress, still (whitey was in congress). Dr. King had a plan yes, however, he knew he needed the help of the majority. Even when slaves where freed it was the help of whites who felt slavery was wrong. Everyone needs the help of someone, no one can change the world alone. |
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"The Broken Silence" Just to answer your comments.
Voting for someone that is half black is not racist.
That's a common act that happens in society. There is nothing morally wrong with it. It's referred to voting for someone who understands your plights, struggles and dreams. The racist act would be not voting for someone because they are white. (which is also arguable) Secondly, I wouldn't count out Obama yet.
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Why exactly is Obama stating that he has hopes of change? Because he feels that if he were in power he can bring about that change...why must we always look to others to bring about change for us?
Does anyone know the qualities of a good and effective leader? A leader must be charismatic, a good communicator, a person with a vision, a person that can motivate others through positive vs. negative tactics, a person that can delegate,
a person that assists others in becoming more then they thought was even possible. A good leader soes not dictate but inspires. A person that can motivate his/her followers to act. I really think Barack Obama has those qualities and that in itself is a change from most of the presidents of the past...
Another question...what is the point of having those qualities if you don't even try to use them? Some people say Obama is not ready, we are not ready for a black president...well i'm ready for a president with qualities like Obama...no matter what his skin color is...it just so happens he is black which to me is a PLUS...and from what I hear he does have hopes and he does have dreams and instead of him waiting for another president to realize those hopes and dreams he believes he has the ability to bring it...i believe it too
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I respect your allegiance to Hillary and enjoyed our discussion the other day but surely she's becoming more detached from reality more desperate by the hour and more vicious as the nomination begins to slip through her clutches. What she said was in a nasty spirit, a very bad humour and was meant to be insulting. MLK's dream was something larger than legislation, it was about America rising to its consitutional creed that "All men are created Equal."
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She is a bitch, I really hate her now. First of all, Barack was not comapring himself to MLK. He was talking about the comment that she made at the debate about "false hopes." He was saying that we dont need a leader telling us what we CAN'T do, we need a leader that will tell us what we CAN do. Second she has completely disrespected the work of MLK and the poeple that fought for civil rights. She is basically saying that a "dream" BEGINS OR ENDS WITH A PRESIDENT. She a complete idot and is not acknowleging the power of words and motivation.
Anyway, here's the quote.
This is the entire quote on Hillary:
In an interview with Fox News Political Correspondent Major Garrett — the second in as many days — Clinton also took issue with Barack Obama’s dismissal of her claim that he represents “false hope;” Obama says that argument is like Martin Luther King standing at the Lincoln Memorial in Washington and saying “sorry guys, false hope. The dream will die.”
Clinton said “Dr King’s dream began to be realized when President Lyndon Johnson passed the civil rights act of 1964… That dream became a reality, the power of that dream became real in people’s lives because we had a president who said ‘we’re going to do it,’ and actually got it done.”
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I respect your allegiance to Hillary and enjoyed our discussion the other day but surely she's becoming more detached from reality more desperate by the hour and more vicious as the nomination begins to slip through her clutches.
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Of course, MLK needed Congress to pass the law. He is not the law-making body in the nation. Duh. However, Congress only passes the law if there is public pressure to do so. To undermine, the people who lost their lives in the struggle and deify the politician who cowered to political pressure is a sham. I think it is important to understand that if you demand change, it will come. It did not come because the Johnson et. al were so generous; blacks demanded it. Furthermore, many would say but for the Cold War, there would be no civil rights act of 1964. Congress passed the law partially due to the international outrage over the poor treatment of blacks, as the U.S. condemned the lack of freedom in communism. MLK was fully aware of this, and some of his writing touch upon this.
Clinton demeans the struggle of those like MLK to put the politician on the pedestal. It was unnecessary. All the people on here saying that the statement is out of conetxt should do their own research. More importantly, the law was pretty pointless without the litigation that BLACK civil rights attorneys engaged. Litigation has been substantially more significant in our everyday lives than that law. Research MLK and teh civil rigths movement, and listen to Clinton's statements. For once, MTO is right on the money. |
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@crysmarie, I hope everyone reads THIS! Hillary is only saying that if you have a DREAM, she'll listen...SHE can make that DREAM happen, if it's dealing with the LAW or POLITICAL issues. A DREAM is onething, but you HAVE to have people with the POWER to make it happen. WAKE UP people, I HATE to say this, but how many people making these comments have college education at least, or for that matter an advance degree. I just had to say it, some of the people on here sound so ignorant and close minded that its terrible! |
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Wow. I really shouldn't be surprised that Black people would be so ignorant as to interprit that as a negative comment. It is unfortunate that this is the very same reason a Black person could not, and never will be President. All sillyness aside. Blacks are really simple minded people. To prove my point, watch how many ignorant, pethetic, minds will attack my statement. It is really sad to a species of people who lacks any real intelligence. To release frustration for lack of wisdom, they immediately resort to violence hence, Black crime in America. Statistics show that the most violent and peop |
