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Oh No Jay! NOOOOOOOOO
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Hov has to make a decision about this dude Barclay soon or later. |
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I heard JAy was part of the illuminati? He is helping to bring in te new world order...Jay bee sold his soul for riches like Nas said. wha else is new. He can rap...but I don't follow him or anyone like that...unlike soem of this generation. He is sooooooooo rich he doesn't have to work another day in his life......why do I care about yet another business venture from him? I'm working on my own |
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What?!!!
notenoughrealmen.blogspot.com
myspace.com/tosexy4u2handle
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| MacDawgJustChillaxin |
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I HOPE DAT FUICK NYGGA LOSE. IF HE DO, THERE GOES HIS FAME AND DIME PIECE. |
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If I told you once - I have told you a thousand times - DO NOT SHOW THAT MAN'S FACE UP CLOSE THIS EARLY IN THE MORINING - DANG - WTF !!!! |
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DUDE AINT GETTIN NO MONEY... GO SIT DOWN SOMEWHERE |
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What makes him think J got 5 billion?? Maybe 500 million, but billion.. Please. |
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damn joe camel, lets hope this is not true!!!! |
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| sosincere |
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this story is completly true. Majority of larger banks in America are all founded off the backs of African slaves. Whacovia, Bank of America, Chase, the one in the story are just a few. And these are the same banks that most bruhs and sistas can't even secure a decent loan from! Sad!! But I wouldnt expect Jay Z to care. He is a part time brotha and a accidental buisness man. Forbes named him to the list of the stupidest buisnessmen of 07. Forbes don't see color. They see green. Im not a fan. He lost me when I read that him and Dash was thinking about investing in PRIVATE PRISONS...WTF?????? Im glad someone put him on blast! |
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Well how else ya'll thought he got his millions? Through his records? LMAO
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LOL!!!!!!!
I wonder who's simple azz representing this crap in court? I would luvvvvvv to see the proceedings on court tv!!
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He needs to be sued for those glasses he have on. |
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Please stop calling him partial owner of the NETS he is not. He owns stock. Do you ever see him in the owners box, no just floor seats. This is what happens when your money is not as long as you brag about and you have to bring in investors. You never know who is breathing down their necks. |
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Look at all these Rumors, surrounding me everyday. I just need some time..some time to get away.
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Hmm..Not To Sure About This One. |
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| detroitsport |
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I HOPE THEY TAKE HIM TO THE RACK!!!THATS FOR TURNING HIS BACK ON THE ONES THAT BROUGHT HIM IN THE GAME AND ALL THE DEF JAM ARTISTS!!!WIT HIS H0E A$$!!!!! |
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Sosincere, we must read alot of the same articles. In real newspapers and magazines. Most of those banks you named have admitted and said sorry. But none have paid. We as africans slaves pumped 1.7 trillion dollars into the American Economy from the time they took us off the boat to the time they first abolished slavery. This does not count the time that they did not count our contributions before the civil war, because slavery was not supposed to exist. |
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DID THAT HONKEY MacDawgJustChillaxin JUST USE THE WORD NI66A!!! |
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mdl219....yep. Must have.
Yeah I read where most of them apologized but the majority of people really have no understanding as to the magnitude of what they are saying. THESE ARE FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS...this country and Britan is flat out superpowers PRIMARILY due to the slave trade. But we blacks think that reparations is so hokey of a idea. It is deserved!!! My blood boils over how these banks, insurance companies, manufacturing empires, pretty much the whole economic system was made off black people. Bunk the whippings they like to show on Roots. Look at our economic condition as a people and to know that the WEALTHY 1% who run everything got it off our people only 3 generations ago. |
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and just so ya'll know...please try to think outside the box. Do you really think dude expects to WIN this lawsuit? Or is it more logical that he is trying to shed light on a bigger picture while outing some of the coon a$$ uncle tom idols we seem to adore????? Im going with the latter. |
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THATS WHAT IM TALKIN BOUT,ITS BEEEN HONKEYS LOGIN ON SAYING LIL SLICK SHTI,BUT I BET THEY WANT SAY THE SHTI TO OUR FACE,K-FED IS PROBABLY HIS JERO,CRACKER SMELLING,WHITE BREAD,METRO SEXUAL,MAD CAUSE HIS GIRL WANT MORE BLACK MEAT UP IN HER PUSSI AZZ BEYATCH....THANK YOU HAVE A NICE DAY |
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lol @ detroitsport.........
but I don't think he is a white boy. Im guessing a hispanic or biracial. I could be wrong though. |
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^^Or he could be black just trying to start some shyt. Don't entertain him and he'll go away.. |
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Slave trader. |
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I see alot of people hatein cuz they own pockets aint right and you expect a hand out from the same government who has surpressed not you Idiot but your great great grandparents. People is crazy if we as a people would rise together and stop being worried about how the last brother is doing and be [EXPLETIVE] Greedy all the time maybe we could have something as a people we dont even look at each other as one people that are all in the same America as our people before accept there is a new slavery and there alot of Bull$hit being talked all the time but nobody got any solutions its easy to walk around and so whats wrong with everything. Ni$$as stop hatein and get your own money love your self and love your neighbor and we can get some where. |
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MDL219 and sosincere
Jp Morgan paid $106 Mil back in 2001 when someone provided proof they were part of the Slave trade through bank mergers
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vuittondon.....o.k first your darn name speaks volumes to your intellect. Get off thst material mindset and use your brain to think critically. We are talking ECONOMICS....not giving handouts so we can go buy a damn cadillac. And you talking about who owes your great grandparents...well tell me this did whacovia STOP making money when my great grandaddy died????????? Hummm. The point is that it is callled economic growth Reparations don't have to be paid in the form of a flippn handout. You sound like the medias puppet with that age old excuse. How about jsome trust funds, how about some tax initiatives for credits for higher education for African American youth...especially since the inner city schools are fucced up. And they are fucced up due to the way that they are funded ...through property tax. Which none is generated hardley in the inner city. How about some residual income from these institutions being funneled into black owned business or urban development economic initiatives. Hell buy some damn computers ...something! But Im sorry. You borrowing your line from some played out rap star get your money right mentality. Go sport your Louie V and live hood rich. Its not about what we NEED...what do they OWE! |
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@sosincere
So what if he wanted to invest in private prisons. if that is where the money is go for it. He is not doing anything illegal. if people would stop killing each other, raping and selling drugs, then there would be no money in the prison system to make.
And so what if the banks are making money and are not giving people loans. if you had bad credit because you cant pay your bills or u dont pay the debt that you said you would pay, I wont
give you a loan either.
Almost all business in one shape or form was built on slaves. should I not go to a certain store because two hundred years ago, the owners great great great grand mother owned slaves?
walmart k-mart and most other stores and malls are built off the backs of underpaid hispanics. but we still shop there, and their plight is current not something two hundred years old.
Yes the story is true. I read it somewhere else.but the man will not get paid. Jay-z didnt own slaves and neither did Ratner. the man and his attorneys want to get their name in the news |
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Is it above a former drug dealer/street hustler to benefit off the slave trade? After all, he's been in the business of benefiting off black pain from his early days. Yet many of you, some of which have family members suffering from drug abuse or have been victims of drug violence, buy the music and others like him with no problem. Sounds like some people are a bit hypocritical. |
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How about just dropping the overdraft charges! |
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mightyc42...have you ever heard the expression "If you don't stand for something you will fall for anything"....please examine it. Your apathy towards stuff like this is the exact reason why the powers that be don't take us seriously. Peopke seem to confuse the idea of doing for self and demanding justice. Do you have to have one or the other. Just cause I say they need to pay what they own do that mean that I don't do for self?
2nd The prison system is modern day slavery...PERIOD. It's bigger than money. Do you not understand that the judicial system is set up to make mandatory completely outrageous sentences for drug offenses....non violent crimes. Look up Mandatory minimums. Look in a Law review and you will see NUMEROUS articles on how drastically outragous sentencing is for drug trafficing and how it DISPROPORTIONATELY is affecting black men. THESE ARE WHITE PEOPLE saying this....not Minister Farrakahn. They give these brothers ridiculous amounts of time so that they can use them to manufacture shyt in prison for nothing...I.E SLAVERY! So if the prison industrial complex is the NEW slavery and if Jay Z owns a prison ...dont that make him a slave owner???????? My God dont be so damn gullible. Like I said if you dont STAND UP FOR SOMETHING then continue to live blisfully in ignorance. |
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Any business that pays reparations need to fire their lawyer. The US government isn't supporting reparations. Don't forget slavery was abolished - which means it was legal at one time.
There are too many victims and perps to put a price on reparations. Some African nations would have to be included too since they are the ones that sold the slaves to the Europeans.
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If you have a 401k most likely you've invested in private prison. People don't know it but some of the best investment portfolios make money off of porn and prisons but investors aren't told this. All the know is that they have invested in a large company but don't know the day to day dealings.
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sho-well while I understand your point you have to look at the big picture. I am DEFINATELY NOT CONDONING SELLING DRUGS..but lets jsut say I understand. I can see how young brothers and some sistas in poverty find a way in thier community to make money and they are going to take it. It's hard to take the high road when you living in hell. So throw the ultra materialism amongst our people in the mix and you got a whole lot of hustlers hustling backwards. but what is the difference between a brother selling crack and Old E selling malt liquor IN THE HOOD....do you know whats in that stuff? Straight poison! One goes to jail for 10 years on thier first offense the other gets paid...legally? Jay z is a super sucka cause he knows full well the ramifications of the inner city and the life. But when he goes and makes it out he don't go back to pull another brother up he goes back to make more money off of exploiting them in a devilish business. |
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How about jsome trust funds, how about some tax initiatives for credits for higher education for African American youth...especially since the inner city schools are fucced up. And they are fucced up due to the way that they are funded ...through property tax. Which none is generated hardley in the inner city. How about some residual income from these institutions being funneled into black owned business or urban development economic initiatives. Hell buy some damn computers ...something!
All youre doing is asking for a handout I didnt see one thing about US doing something. We as a people need to stop making excuses I know for a fact in my community kids in middle school who wont go to school not because they dont have clothes or money neither parents they dont want to go because they want to thugs and American Gangsters for what reason i dont know but its true. i dont know about you but I dont need no white person to do anything for thats whats wrong if they have made so much money and continue to do so from the slave trade that was one hundred some odd years ago and your still on your knees begging for help.
Get off your ass stop the excuses and get money, as Hov said himself " You cant complain bout what they aint goin give ya, THEY AINT GOIN GIVE YA [EXPLETIVE], So get up, get out, and get something, get a job my [EXPLETIVE]. |
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coop1974.....I didn't know that but thanks for the heads up. I won't even begin to act like I knew that. But there is flexibility. I can opt out your 401k and invest in what I want. And Im sure that info has to be made public knowledge as a share holder. But now that I am aware I am accountable ...or I am a hypocrite. All Im saying is to each it's own but don't choose the road of apathy. Like it don't matter. Like I said stand up for something. |
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Why do you have such a hard on for Jay you sound like a slave cuz you cant stand to see another person coming from nothing and being successful you dont need a handout you need some counseling. And as far as him helping others out Jay has given money to people trying to further their education and his old hood so what is you saying youre just hater. Stop spewing your slave mentality bull$hit cuz youre one of the main ones still trapped in Willie Lynches WEB. Look him up and sosincere you are sincerely fell into his speech to slave masters 250 years ago. |
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The African slave trade is over... WTF are they trying to prove?
Barclay's bank back in the day did some whatever and in 2008 they are trying to stretch and bring out old 'ish.
So we should put out of business any company that had business in slavery?
OK, so Mercedes made autos for Nazis in the 40's, and Hugo Boss made Nazi uniforms we should all stop buying Mercedes and Hugo Boss too.
Cracked LOGIC.
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We ain't slaves no mo'. That was over 160 years ago and I wasn't on this planet.
Oh stop buying Volkswagen because that was the auto company Hitler started. Don't support anything with a history with Nazis. |
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VUITTON DON.....Look you dont know what I do or how I do it. You don't know what I got and what my portfolio looks like...you sound very juvinlie making such broad assumptions. AGAIN do you have to have one without the other? Do you suffer from tunnel vision? Just cause I say PAY WHAT THE HELL YOU OWE do that mean Im cool on doing for self. Why I got to be a welfare victim cause I say that they dead ass wrong. Was the Jews wrong when they got them reparations from Germany in the holocaust? NEVER FORGET...thats their model and they punk the world on it. But black folks want to just say...yes we have moved on and it is anti productive to look back! GET A CLUE! Please read the article OATDOG provided. This was a very well educated LAWYER with good money fighting for what he saw as INJUSTICE...period. Im sorry for talking greasy about ya man HOV but it is what it is. And you SERIOUSLY don't know why kids from the inner city don't want to go to school? Are you serious? You really "don't know why" they on some American Gangsta ish and not on some Harvard talk? Take a moment and think for a second and Im sure you can answer your own question. And sorry boo, it all ties into my point about economics. Lets just agree to disagree cause we are philisophically different. |
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So what you people are saying is that an ex-drug dealer SHOULD invest in a prison to lock people up for the same thing that he used to do? The same thing that got him out of the hood?
Help me somebody! |
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And by the way, wasn't Johnny Cochran getting ready to fight for reparations? Just wondering. |
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blackvelvet...Im a sista..a black woman. [EXPLETIVE] them jews. Let them stop buying Voltswagon if they feel some kinda way about it. I got my own to deal with.
Vuitton don.....willi lynch...what? So Im willie lynch cause I said dude is a sucka for investing in a private prison but HE'S not WHEN HE IS INVESTING IN A PRIVATE PRISON?
lolololololo.....look Im glad you know something. Unfortunately the shyt don;t fit the discussion. Willi Lynch pitted blacks against blacks ...yes! But when a black is acting like the devil then he needs to ba called as such. So that don't make me suffer from willi lynch syndrom....that makes me calling the truth as OI see it. So I guess if I got a problem with Punk ass Bob Johnson and that monster of a network he created and left unchecked to wreck havoc on black culture Im suffering from willi lynch syndrom! GET THE FUC OUTTA HERE....LOL! Jay Z is the TOPIC OF THE STORY....DUHH? Who am I supposed to be talking about? Look at the end of the day, I got my own convictions and you got yours. No right and wrong....just different! O.K. |
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@sosincere
I grew up in the Ghetto so I know the challenges people face there; but that is still no excuse. People like to sympathize with the dealer but what about the victim? What about me not being able to walk down the street without fear? Trying not to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Mother afraid to let us play in the front because of fools? People are being slaughtered not just for basic survival, but for a fresh new pair of kicks, fancy car, unwillingness to get up early get a job or go to school etc. You always hear the story of the victimizer but not the victim and I'm supposed to sympathize??? If that's the case I may as well feel sorry for the slave trader who brought my ancestors over here in the first place. He was hungry too, there is no excuse!!! None of these hustlers reinvest that money into the communities. Only profit off contributing to it's demise. The Ghetto would be a much better place to live without them, being poor in America is not the worst thing in the world. |
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I'm just going to address your last bit about the inner city youth of 2008 cuz in a past life you personally must have been a slave. Yes the schools are in bad shape and things could be better but I went not cuz I wanted to go to Harvard but after all my years of living in the hood and getting money in my high school years that I could not do that forever like SERIOUSLY its not rocket science. My issue is that its not an excuse and coming from where I grew up You Can Be Somebody Or a Nobody and must choose to be numbers or leave us EARLY by their poor choices.
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MYNA.....THANK YOU !!!! (i was all alone!)lol
Nope...I guess the majority of us super confused and materialistic African Americans in here think it's o.k ...cause he getting money BY ANY MEANS NECCESSARY!!!!
SHO WELL....PLEASE DON'T THINK IM DISAGREEING WITH YOU!! All Im saying is poverty is a cycle. We could go on and on about the victims. Hell I "could" say F' them crack heads cause they are not the victims. No one TOLD them buy the damn crack and smoke their life away! I feel sorry for the kids they abandoned. They are the REAL victims.....and on and on. The point is it is a vicious cycle and it is NOT unintentional. The hood is the hood cause AMERICA needs hoods in a capitalistic society. There is a need for a perpetual underclass. What Im saying is quit letting these mofo's capitalize off us. We do need to get money, but we need to focus on economics not micro riches. And regardless to HOW DAMN LONG THE SLAVE TRADE BEEN OVER they still making money and we still suffering from slavers affects. Dude JUST brought up willi lynch. SO WE STILL ARE DUE! Do that mean stop working and resort to collecting a gov't check on the basis of being black...HELLL NAHH! But don't confuse the two. We got our cross to bear but the GOV'T DO TOO!!! |
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VUITTON DON...ok you went to Harvard..GREAT FOR YOU! Then you need to go back and get a damn refund cause I went to Kent State and got better critical thinking skills then you. You must have missed MY WHOLE POINT when I said you can have BOTH. Just cause I expect for the Gov't to pay what they owe does not magically transform me into a good for nothing welfare victims. Go tell the countless Jews who have suceeded in hoodwinking the world to forget where they came from and stop demanding shyt on the basis of it. YOU EXTRA EDUCATED HARVARD ALUMNI, how about you go and read up on the history of the strife in the middle east. THE JEWS BUMRUSHED PALASTINE AND STOLE THEIR LAND ON SOME FEEL SORRY FOR US CAUSE WE JEWS AND WE NEED THIS LAND shyt. My God. |
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Your comments are interesting and I do agree with your last post; but the more I learn about the strength and resiliance of the slaves the more I'm proud to have come from that. So to accuse a person of being a slave in a past life is not in and of itself an insult. These are the people who were victims of the worst crime in human history. And as their ancetor, I will not allow their pain to go numb in me and die. I believe that would truly represent the molding of the slave mind intended by the slave owners. Somehow we must communicate that to the youth before they become victimizers, starting with our own children. |
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myna...p.s I was gonna cosign with dropping those overdrafts but I got to caught up in trying to clarify myself to tHe masses! lol!
But whats really messed up is how I cant go to walgreen and get cash anymore w/o paying the ATM charge.....BASTARDS! |
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BY NOT DEMANDING REPARATIONS DONT YOU THINK THAT THAT IS ALLOWING FOR THIER PAIN TO BECOME NUMB AND DIE???????? And even if you don't personally feel the need to demand for them why are you so critical of those of us who see the necessity? iS THAT BATTLE YOU SPEAK OF ONLY FAUGHT ONE WAY, IN ONE ARENA, FOLLOWING ONE IDEOLOGY???? Its like you say the word reparations and blacks attack thier own like you setting them back or some ish!!!!!! My daddy was a share cropper. MY DADDY...not great nothing. Im sure he woulda been thrilled to death to not have had to put me through college. He probably could have retired earlier than he did!!!!! |
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vuitton don....and last post to you...out of EVERYTHING I rebutted you picked that last little bit to respond back to? Its very easy to make a I have a dream speech about the lil younging who don't care about school. You had nothing to say about my case that I was making about ya boy Hov or the Jews and the reasons for reparations...but you CHOSE to respond back to THAT???????? Im through. No disrespect. Have a great day. |
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"The point is it is a vicious cycle and it is NOT unintentional. The hood is the hood cause AMERICA needs hoods in a capitalistic society. There is a need for a perpetual underclass. What Im saying is quit letting these mofo's capitalize off us. We do need to get money, but we need to focus on economics not micro riches."
sosincere, I posted my respond to that part of your comment that I feel is truly profound. I hate the fact that it didn't post. Well, all I can say is I need to let it marinate because you hit on some thing that helped me see this game a little bit more clearly. THANK YOU FOR THAT!!! I carry the pain of slavery with me all the time, don't know why but I do. Maybe I need to see America live up to her promises. Go Obama!!! |
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sho well- America may be a monster but I do believe we will be seeing our first African American President...in my and my daughters lifetime!!!! Dude can't be stopped!!!!!!! (not by hillary at least) |
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Despite all of the arguing or maybe because of all of it, I believe that these have been the most intellectual and insightful posts ever made on a gossip site which more or less favors the stories concerning baby mama's, weaves, little kids shaking their behinds, adultery, crap that in the end means nothing of importance |
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AulovelySha.....yeah mediatakeout is strictly a guilty pleasure...but sometimes we stumble across something of relevance.
p.s Im sorry for the less than nice tone in which I addressed some of ya'll. I just get passionate about my people sometimes....lol. Agreeing to Disagree....respectfully. |
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I grew up in bedstuy brooklyn, and my parent took me out of there because of the ghetto mentality that some people have. I made it out. I am successful. I did not sell drug because I made the choice. I will not be a millionaire in my field. but I am comfortable because I work hard to get where i am. I worked as a bagger at the grocery store, blockbuster and hollywood video. I was a soldier, a security guard and maintenance man, and I am only 28 years old. I chose to be a man, and make the system work for me. That came from good parenting by my mother and father.
I have only had one job that i have not been promoted within 6 months. I dont believe in reparations because It did not happen to me, my father or grandfather. I do not deserve it. we as black people need to stop blaming the past and build toward our future.
It cost on average of about $40 a day to house an inmate. how is that slavery my good man, how much do you think they are manufacturing to cover the cost to the tax payer.
Yes I know that the sell of narcotics are being given alot of time. and I know that enron executive stole many many millions and cost tens of thousands of people jobs and they should have been given more time because in the end they hurt more people than our neighborhood pusher.
trust me though, some of these fools need to be in jail. many of these violent offenders need to spend the rest of their life inside for killing, raping and other violent crimes. in those cases, I am very happy the system keeps them locked up so that they wont hurt anyone else. |
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mightyc42.......Lawd hav mercy......Look, I am super proud of any black man that chooses to stand on his own two feet. So much respect to you. But you are seriously looking at this thing through very narrow minded eyes. Please don't base the whole economic system in this country off of your experiences. That is what you are doing by equating the choice YOU made to the way America works.
The prison system is needed. But noone next to God himself can get me to believe that 10 - 20 on a first bid on a drug case is whats up! You mentioned rape and murder but do you know the dopeboy gets more time than ALL OF THEM!!!!!! I don't have time to explain the prisonn industrial complex to you. PLEASE just go google that phrase and look it up. I bet you will be surprised to find out how much MONEY IS BEING MADE!!!!!!!! How many people they employ and it's all self sustaining. But peace to you for taking the high road and making it out though...real talk. Just look it up and see. |
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@ sosincere.
Also, the education system in the inner city is bad but i think that it has more to do with the attitude of the children and parents and the overpopulation of those schools. more so than money. the good teachers leave to less populated areas where the students are better behaved and the money may be a little better (but all school teachers are underpaid)
i went to too high schools in atlanta. one was in dekalb county (a black part of town) and the other was in north fulton ( a white part of town). the way that the teachers and administrators treated you differed greatly. the attitude of the students differed greatly. both schools were in suburban areas though.
I think the inner cities have money for projects because property taxes are higher. not because of the property value but because the owner of the property ( in the inner city most people do not own the property that they live in) pays a higher tax rate because that person does not live in the property that he/she owns.
if you own the house you live in, you file for homestead exemption and pay between 30 and 40 percent less in property taxes. I am not sure if that is the same everywhere but it is in georgia.
what i am saying is that the suburban areas where people mostly own their own homes take in less in tax dollars per person. |
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I agree with you 100% ! I'm you're critical thinking sista! Ever read "Are Prisons Obsolete" by Angela Davis? |
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@ sosincere.
I respect your opinion but do not agree my good lady
I am not saying that dopeboy get more than their share of time. i think that for a first felony they get screwed with no lube. what i am saying is that we can make it with out someone wanting to get something for doing nothing. if any of us black people who are alive or even our parents were slaves then reperations is fine. but we are not (slaves) and our parents were not. i understand the amount of money going into the justice system. I dont like it at all. I think for alot of these young brothers and sisters who are first time offenders should get less time in prison and more time on probation or a half way house. but if a person does get a second chance, with probation or a halfway home. they need to also understand that it is a do over and not mess it up a second time and become a statistic
to be honest i think that some of our mentality comes from not having good stable homes and parents who know how to be parents. but dont sell drugs because you want to buy a nie car and rims. i think that song (I think it is called) "read a book" makes so much since.
instead of buying some land or a business with some money. we buy cars and rims and gold teeth. then comit stupid crimes when we go broke.
then what we as a people should do if we do need to comit a crime is study and so something that is not going to get us ten years. if you gotta rob a store to feed your kids, dont use a gun automatic 3 years. be smart. go to the library and find out how to get the biggest payoff with a minimum effort and risk and minimum prison time.
WITH THAT SAID, I AM NOT CONDONING ANY CRIMAINAL ACTIVITY. I AM JUST SHOWING ONE REASON WE ARE GETTING MORE TIME, WE ARE COMMITING THE STUPID BOTTOM LINE CRIMES |
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@sosincere
To talk about willie lynch. that was a fraud. perhaps it was true but the so-called willie lynch letter was bs. where is this letter? why has it only recently surfaced. Professors from Howard and Spelman have denounced it as a hoax, because of the language it used.
but I do agree with one thing. this is a viscious cycle that we are living in.
I have a question for you if you dont mind.
and I am not trying to be facetious mind you. just want your opinion.
what do you think we should do about drug dealers and the drug problem in our communities. I am about to go home so I may not get your answer today but i will check tomorow if you would like to answer.
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Sorry I had a meeting and could not respond. First lets start with the Jews. The Jews went through the holocaust almost 70 years ago now do you believe that 150 years from now they will go back to Germany and ask for a handout No I dont think so. Our people were slaves but unless you have a time machine your building in your closet then hey that was just to bad I was not a slave who was born in to bondage, I was born into the Westside where The mentality of my people is a slave mentality by our own creation. Life is what you make and if youre going to sit around and wait for 40acres and a mule be my guest you'll be waiting another 150 to get it.
As far as Hov getting money with a company that made money off the slave trade NEWS FLASH AMERICA WAS BUILT off the slave trade so I think youre basically living in the wrong country to holla he's wrong for getting a piece I mean we wouldnt be having this conversation if it wAS you. Lets say the government sent you a check for reparations what price would you put on that I mean because by youre own admission you were never a slave so what dollar amount would put on the killings and being shipped here like a dog and the rapes and not to mention our own people selling US into slavery. How much do we get from the Africans Countries that SOLD US TO BEGIN With huh? Ni99az dont like to hear that so how much? One more thing dont hate on the Jews atleast they know how to work together and they took that piece of land from the palestians which was theirs from the beginning pick up a bible, Book or anything READ my Ni99az.
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sosincere
mdl219....yep. Must have.
Yeah I read where most of them apologized but the majority of people really have no understanding as to the magnitude of what they are saying. THESE ARE FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS...this country and Britan is flat out superpowers PRIMARILY due to the slave trade. But we blacks think that reparations is so hokey of a idea. It is deserved!!! My blood boils over how these banks, insurance companies, manufacturing empires, pretty much the whole economic system was made off black people. Bunk the whippings they like to show on Roots. Look at our economic condition as a people and to know that the WEALTHY 1% who run everything got it off our people only 3 generations ago.
@Sosincere
Thank you for your words of wisdom, even if some people don’t agree with you now you have certainly planted some seeds in there minds, and thank you for that.
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Any business that pays reparations need to fire their lawyer. The US government isn't supporting reparations. Don't forget slavery was abolished -which means it was legal at one time.
There are too many victims and perps to put a price on reparations. Some African nations would have to be included too since they are the ones that sold the slaves to the Europeans.
An apology and maybe a scholarship fund or two would suffice. Lets keep it moving.
@VinCee
There are approximately 39 million African Americans in the USA, that how many victims.
Myna
And by the way, wasn't Johnny Cochran getting ready to fight for reparations? Just wondering.
@ Myna
He probably was, Malcolm was going too.
sosincere
BY NOT DEMANDING REPARATIONS DONT YOU THINK THAT THAT IS ALLOWING FOR THIER PAIN TO BECOME NUMB AND DIE???????? And even if you don't personally feel the need to demand for them why are you so critical of those of us who see the necessity? iS THAT BATTLE YOU SPEAK OF ONLY FAUGHT ONE WAY, IN ONE ARENA, FOLLOWING ONE IDEOLOGY???? Its like you say the word reparations and blacks attack thier own like you setting them back or some ish!!!!!! My daddy was a share cropper. MY DADDY...not great nothing. Im sure he woulda been thrilled to death to not have had to put me through college. He probably could have retired earlier than he did!!!!!
@ Sosincere
Kent State educated yo ASS. 8-)
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"The point is it is a vicious cycle and it is NOT unintentional. The hood is the hood cause AMERICA needs hoods in a capitalistic society. There is a need for a perpetual underclass. What Im saying is quit letting these mofo's capitalize off us. We do need to get money, but we need to focus on economics not micro riches."
sosincere, I posted my respond to that part of your comment that I feel is truly profound. I hate the fact that it didn't post. Well, all I can say is I need to let it marinate because you hit on some thing that helped me see this game a little bit more clearly. THANK YOU FOR THAT!!! I carry the pain of slavery with me all the time, don't know why but I do. Maybe I need to see America live up to her promises. Go Obama!!!
@showell
I feel the same PAIN….
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Despite all of the arguing or maybe because of all of it, I believe that these have been the most intellectual and insightful posts ever made on a gossip site which more or less favors the stories concerning baby mama's, weaves, little kids shaking their behinds, adultery, crap that in the end means nothing of importance
@AuloveySha
GIVE IT UP FOR SOSINCERE…. YOU GOT TO RESPECT THE CASE
sosincere
AulovelySha.....yeah mediatakeout is strictly a guilty pleasure...but sometimes we stumble across something of relevance.
p.s Im sorry for the less than nice tone in which I addressed some of ya'll. I just get passionate about my people sometimes....lol. Agreeing to Disagree....respectfully.
@Sosincere
I HOPE THAT YOU ARE IN THE LAW PROFESSION BECAUSE YOU PRESENT AN EXCELLENT COURT CASE.
PEACE AND BLESSING TO YOU MY SISTA
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SO [EXPLETIVE] WHAT WHO HASEN'T BENIFITED FROM AFRICAN SLAVERY IN THE WORLD THE HOLE MORDERN AMERICA WAS BUILT BY SLAVES JAY-Z CAME FROM NOWHERE TO GET HIS AND HIS PEOPLE WERE SLAVES SO HE TOOK WHAT WAS OWED TO HIS PEOPLE AND JAY-Z WAS GETTING MONEY BEFORE HE OWNED THE NETS!!!! ALL THOSE PEOPLE ARE IS [EXPLETIVE] TRYING TO SUE FOR MONEY THEY NEED TO GO TO THE GOVERNMENT NOT JAY-Z
AND THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE AINT GETTING [EXPLETIVE] BACK UNTIL WE GET BIGGER GUNZ THEN WHITE PEOPLE OR SOME TIME BOMB LIKE THE ARABS DO SO UNTIL THEN ALL THESE FAKE MLK AND MALCOME X [EXPLETIVE] NEED TO SIT DOWN AND TRY TO DO SOME [EXPLETIVE] LIKE BARRACK OBAMA |
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imsosexy....thanks for the love.Im not a e activist or nothing. I just got a loud mout and am opinionated as all get out. I usually am on here killing brain cells but I often find something that sparks my interest really. Oh and KENT STATE SUCKS!!! The majority of what I get I get out of books, cnn, and kicking it with people (mostly my fella) on intriguing stuff.
vuitton don....o.k I cant talk to you. So you are giving the Isrealies...not the jews cause if you REALLY knew your history and not just king James bible you would know that the Jews in Isreal ARE NOT of the chosen people refrenced in exodus!!!!!!) props for stealing the land from the Palistenians!!!!!!!!! ARE YOU SERIOUS! Dude you on some ol devilish get power, get money no matter who you step on and kill. Thats some straight western horrible thinking. I got a lot of American in this African but have some morals!!!!! You again talking numbers like 70 years means anything! You referenced the Willi lynch papers. If you really read them the MAIN point was at the end when he said THE MENTALITY WILL BE SELF REFULING FOR GENERATIONS TO COME!!!! So don't pick and choose parts of your own failed logic! Even by your OWN admission Blacks still to this day suffer from the effects (although the majority mental) of slavery! Willi Lynch has nothing to do with this argument.
And you are Got darn right...AMERICA WAS BUILT OFF OF OUR PEOPLES BACKS! So why is it silly to demand something from America then?????? So yes massa exploit us fro 400 years yes we built a empire but WE SORRY. We got some welfare programs for ya'll but not much else....But thank you all jyou good black folks. (oh by the way HOW DARE YOU ASK US TO PAY WHAT WE OWE!!!!)
Again you can trivialize it all you want with asinine questions such as "whats the price", "how much you get in your check", ...THEY DON'T HAVE TO GIVE ANYONE A CHECK.
And you are absolutely correct..the jews do know how to stick together. Thats why they got their reparations! Do you think they called stupid for demanding justice from the Gov't? They do stick together. They controll the money flow within their own communities. So why is it black man when this black woman says do the SAME THING black people I m the foolish one.
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mtwoo4....nah never read that. Thanks for the heads up..I may have to check it out. |
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You have really out done youre self with that response so the Jews and Isrealites of the Bible are two seperate peoples please dont tell me youre a Mormon cause that would really make my day. Question when did the Federal Government give the Jews any type of reparations i WANT TO KNOW YEAR AND DATE cuz people if you believe that its a crock. No what they did was not sit around and cry about what happened they made something collectively and thats the key thing you are missing, yes slavery sucked but OUR OUR people SOLD us so why aren't you asking these African Nations For a share of the diamond and coffee ,oil for Selling your people in the first place. The reason its silly is because its been more than 100 years ago what have you contributed so you want something for nothing cuz you were not apart of slavery at all so yes if hasn't happened by now Sorry it going to. And if they did give something in book nothing they can give would equal or even be worth the misery of slavery and its impact on us as a race. After you get your reparations then what, what will change let me tell you not a Damn Thing untill WE STOP LOOKING FOR THESE PEOPLE DO GIVE US ANYTHING HAVE SOME PRIDE AMONGST GET UP AND MAKE SOMETHING. THE BIBLE SAYS GOD BLESS THE CHILD WHO HAS HIS OWN.
TRUST I GOT MY OWN AND SOME $HIT THAT HAPPENED 150 YEARS AGO AINT NEVA GOIN STOP ME CAUSE I'M A REAL BLACK MAN THATS HOW REAL BLACK MEN GET IT OWN THEY OWN.
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mightyc42...I don't know. I don't have the answer to that. But just a opinion is that there has to be some viable econnomic growth and oppertunity withinn these communities. Its not a black thing. Its a poor thing. When you have a economically depressed enviornment flat out crime goes up. So if there are drugs in the hood to be sold among poor folks then they are going to sell them. Then you get addicts who dont take care of kids, then you get kids having kids, then you get generations of backwards ass people. Hard to find a solution when the economy is f'd up. But as far as crime there HAS to hand down has to be stiffer gun laws....period. I know tha is gonna get alot of brothers put in jail but after a few tougher punishments I think they will learn. Maybe go back to fighting..lol. Killing each other is outta controll! I dont know bruh but capitalizing off of prisons as a black man seems a bit ....wrong..lol. |
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OUR GOVT DIDNT GIVE THE JEWS A DAMN THING BUT THE GERMAN GOV'T DID!!!! Google it sweetie. I don't have time to do your research. While you are at it check how they paid the folks in the concentration camps in wwII here ..in America! I am a christian. And I read. You are a sucka if you believe that the Chosen people from exodus are the same Jews that we see in Isreal! That is some brainwashed slave shyt right THERE!!!!!! The Jews from Exodus were BLACK people. The discovery channel just did a special on them and they do one every year around easter. You should check it out. Im not disputing the exodus story just how the Isrealies have capitalized on trying to make the world feel sorry for them...cause they are OHHHH so prosecuted. THIS is the reason they gave behind NEEDING thier OWN STATE that they took from the palestinians. Look sweetie, do a lil homework and then see for yourself. I am confident in what I know I don't have to prove it to you. You do you and Ill do me. But be blessd and have a great day. Peace! |
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The real Jews were black people check it out at the web site below.
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@sosincere and whoeva else
Are these the same black jews with the loud speakers on the corner give lectures but last week main man was stealing his mother soffa?
Just Asking cuz my cousin claims to be a black Jew and all that but he neva has any literally proof or biblical proof to back up these claims and please dont say read the Nostic books been there done that and thats a whole other story. But I was just wondering not be sarcastic but real talk.
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Ok it costs 40 dollars a day to house and inmate--why? What is the economics of that situation? Of those forty dollars only a small portion goes to house and feed the inmate the other portion goes to staff and infrastructure and reinvestment--in the case of private prisons. Privatized prisons make their money off of those bodies that "40 bucks" you mentioned that they reinvest or build relationships with other companies like Victoria secrets or Boeing jet where they use prison labor to produce the goods at a negligible costs--and then resale it to us at 300% costs. So it is in these corporations as well as the local, state, and federal govt who not only are relieved of the burden of housing prisoners but are also being paid in terms of rental of land--by these private prisons--so what's the conspiracy? We need bodies to fill these prisons to function as non-wage laborers also termed as slaves. Also when slavery was rendered illegal by the I believe the 13th amendment--the one provision stated slavery was illegal EXCEPT IN PRISON--also large scale prisons did not pop up until post-emancipation and reconstruction.
As a capitalist nation it is important that labor expenses are left at a minimum. That is how America made its money and built its infrastructure. With the rising labor costs, less immigrant laborers to exploit, slavery abolished and America losing its competitive edge prison labor gets more and more important for the survival of a capitalist nation. So the “ghetto” is designed to force people into crimes of necessity (legal term) through limited work opportunities and poor educational system, and then are imprisoned for non violent crimes---it’s too much to go into but the educational system is so apparent by your posts it’s sad
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you asked "Question when did the Federal Government give the Jews any type of reparations i WANT TO KNOW YEAR AND DATE "
http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/5729 |
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thanks for responding
I dont think that tougher gun laws are going to make these young brothers learn. as you and i agree that these tough drug sentencing are not making them learn. I say again that i believe half way houses may be the wasy to go.
for those who do not know, halfway houses are generally judicial department controlled facilities, usually owned by a apartment home, where inmate with early release live. It provides a few parole or prison officers. the inmate must hold a job, are not aloud to use alchohol have sex or use drugs, they may not be aloud to drive. have ramdom drug and alchohol screenings, and a curfew. but they have a apartment and a controlled environment and are aloud to leave for work or to shop, visit some friends ect. If the inmate break any rules, they are subject to go back to prison and serve the rest of their sentence. It cost a lot less than putting them in prison.
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Agggghhhhh, don't show that picture that close up anymore!
Any way, nothing would shock me about Jayz, he sold out on us a long time ago, yet some black people are still on his dick. Why? I don't know. He's a sellout ass bitch and his music speaks to this effect. |
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Those topics have already been covered so moving right along
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im sorry ya'll this is gonna be long........
vuitton don....
Look sweetie I got a job and I spend way too much time on here as is. So I am gonna give you this brief history lesson and Im gone.......VERY BRIEF.......
Look in a nut shell you have to understand that the bible has been re written and lightweight bastardized. It is NOT in it original text. So would you really find the answer in the damn King James version that you are reading...i.e King James who re wrote the bible and destroyed original texts for his own political and personal pleasures????? Hummm? Thats first and foremost Mr. Well educated.
Now on to the Jews 1st you sound very uncle tomish to refer to the Hebrew Isrealites that "stand on your corner" in the manner in which you did. But just so you know Im not talking about them although they are closer than the whites we come to equate with jews today need proof ......
Centuries before the Greeks or the Romans invaded, the Israelites were taken into captivity by the Persian empire where they were ALREADY scattered through out 127 Persian provinces.. from India to Cush (Sudan...IN africa). In the words of the BIBLE the masses of all Israelites were scattered and assimilated into the Persian empire where they will be gathered only when God comes back to earth
In the information of the bible, only a residue was left in Palestine (modern day isreal). (residue, that is what is left in the cup when you finish your cup of coffee).
Only a trivial fraction were left or returned. The number that returned is mentioned in Ezra. (around 50,000....) while over 20 million Israelites remained dispersed through out the Persian empire.
When the trivial fraction of Israelites were left, they were not the only people So when the Romans came to town, the population dispersed from Palestine. It then became a composite of many nations and the Israelites were only a trivial fraction... while the masses of Israelites remained scattered through out Africa and the Arab nations. Meaning these European Jews are NOT amongst the tribes scatterd because if you believe in the BIBLE the tribes are still scatterd throughout the middle east and mainly AFRICA!
* We know that when white Europeans and black races mix
a) Some descendants will be white
b) Some descendants will be black
c) Some descendants will be a mix... but
NEVER will all descendants be all white.....as the european Jews (Isreal).
These are not my words these are the words of a WHITE SCHOLAR! I woulda just went ahead and gave you the web page but it seems as if you didnt want to look it up for yourself. In a nut shell...
THE 12 TRIBES IN THE BIBLE WER SCATTERED AMONG AFRICA..(THE MIDDLE EAST IS SOME BULL CRAP POLITICAL MESS..ITS STILL AFRICA GEOGRAPHICALLY. BLACK PEOPLE POPULATED THAT REGION LOOOOONG BEFORE THE GREEKS SO HOW IN THE WORLD WERE THE ORIGINAL JEWS...YEP JESUS' PEOPLE ...PEOPLE OF EUROPEAN ANCESTORY. MOSES WAS BLACK AND SO WAS JESUS AND FOR DARN SURE SO WAS THE FIRST JEWS!
Hope that helps. for more info go the sight
http://encyclopediaegypt.com/e-race.htm
My honey bunny is on my back for playing on MTO so much so I can't play with ya'll for a while...lol. So peace. I am wasting tooo much time on here. I just responded back so you so that you can put that white jews being OWED some promise land ish to rest! Look this stuff up for yourself. It is the information age. nOONE SHOULD BE CLUELESS ABOUT ANYTHING NOW ADAYS UNLESS THEY WANT TO BE!
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EZURLIDEVINE....THANKS. I really didnt want to post all that to ol dude. WAY too much to get into. Thats why I just said to research "prison industrial complex". How do black people not understand this in 2008! DAMN! Thats cause we go to bull like this and NOTHING else. Gossip and stupidity is fun but not if you are not doing anything else....geez! MYSELF INCLUDED. This sight is so addictive and it dumbs people down. MYSELF INCLUDED. I got to go back to trying to be productive. But peace for taking the time to write that stuff out! |
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@ sosincere
going to play devils advocate here
i agree with you about jew not only being white but also black. but it also sounds to me that you and vuitton don are both only taking what you want out of history. (him more than you) if you want to get the facts, you have to study both sides of that same story( and sometimes three or four sides). i bet i can find another educated scolar to say something opposite. I think that we have to research all that we can and use our own knowledge and common since to figure it out.
for instance; you say that king james changed the bible for his political and personal reasons and destroyed the original text. O.K. but how do you know that for sure. Do you have acopy of the original bible?do you read ancient Hebrew so that you can translate it? I dont think so.
I read that King James did what he wanted, and I believe that because I understand that power corrupts adn absolute power corupts absolutely. but then again, maybe he had integrity and the persons responsible for the rewrite did the changes. it is over four hundred years old. king james is not the one who translated but the one that was told by teh church that the bible needed retranslation. what happened exactly, will will never know for sure.
I say that because two people can have the same memory of an event that happened a year ago but both memories will be a little different.
example
when I when to my junior prom I would have bet money that the girl i took wore a blue dress. but I have photos of her in a green dress.
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I still think that the man suing him has no case and no right. is he going to split the money with all descendents of slaves if he wins. most of us will by something that wont appreciate and in 25 years will be in the same prodicament.
some one said yesterday that they should use the monies to fund schools and black college grants. good idea but then the coleges would just raise the tuition after a couple of years. look at how expensive college is now compared to 20 years ago. (including inflation) so we wouldnt get as much as we wantd anyway.
and sincere you and voitton don have got to stop arguing. debate dosent have to become an arguement.
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@VuittonDon It's ALL in the BIBLE....
For years, scholars, theologians and archaeologist have debated the answer to the question, "How did the ancient Israelites look physically? Although the scriptures and other historical documents, have left a lot of evidence that confirms the physical appearance of the Israelites. Much of this information is still unknown to the masses. The popular belief today among Christians, Scholars and theologians, is the people known as "Ashkenazi Jews" are t |