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wtf?? last time i checked (and i just checked), there were other REAL crimes that need to be investigated....like CROOKED COPS among other sh*t. This is profiling disguised as ignorance disguised as politics. They're letting out sex offenders and arresting black men because we don't want to wear our jeans above our navel like they have to (fix that prostate....). Go do some real police work.
Next I'll be watching "The First 48" and they'll be investigating brothers for having 28's on their cars saying its a road hazard. You can't arrest/kill us all.....just mad because your wives and daughters want to do some ungodly acts to us young black men (LMAO....shouts to all my sisters....i aint goin nowhere!)
F*ckers. One.
I heard about this in my Government course about a year ago, I don't like sagging at all but this is taking it a bit far....Well if your butt crack is showing that is indecent exposure but regular sagging though I hate it, it's a free country and they won't stop until they find a way to put all black men behind bars.
Complete utter racist bullsh!t! Just another reason to target young black men! How can they allow sexual molesters back into the streets and all they have to do is "register" as a sex offender but people can't wear their own pants low? And if you have on a shirt you can't even see so what the hell? Why not arrest those punk white boys with those tight ass skinny jeans showing their nuts? That's indecent exposure too!
Sure its another way to lock a black dude up....but its not every brother in the state.......And its not just black dudes saggin....you got whites, asians, and latinos doing it....Sh*t most black dudes nowdays got some decency and decorum about themselves
I know I do.... I can't be bustin a sag...too damn old for that sh*t!
saggin is only popular with the young kids
Once the law gets hot on these little immature kids they'll start pullin the pants up
I wholeheartedly agree with this, I'm so tired of seeing these guys walk around looking like a bunch of punks in prison and thinking it's the "hip" thing to do. This IS very much indecent exposure because I don't want to see someone's underwear while my son and I are out in public. We don't have enough sense to correct this ourselves so now the white folks are going to lock up our young males. Kudos to the Flint Police Department for taking a stand against ignorance.
ITS ABOUT TIME! I DONT THINK ITS RACIST AT ALL. ITS A DAMN SHAME IS WHAT IT IS! IF MORE PARENTS WOULD BE LIKE PARENTS AND RAISE THEIR KIDS WITH THEIR PANTS ON THEIR ASS, THEN THEY WOULD UNDERSTAND. YOU GOT KIDS LIKE 5 AND 6 WALKING AROUND WITH THEIR LIL ASSES SHOWIN, CORRECTION BOXERS, AND ITS IS A SHAME!
IT IS NOT AN ATTEMPT TO PUT MORE BLACKS IN JAIL, BUT HELL, SINCE THE PARENTS WONT SET RULES, SOMEBODY HAS TOO!
YOU ALL KEEP SAYING DUDES WEAR LONG SHIRTS, THATS A LIE! THESE FOOLS WALKING ROUND HERE WIT WIFE BEATERS ON AND PANTS UNDER THEIR ASS CHEEKS AND YOU KNOW THEY HAD TO LOOK IN THE MIRROR TO SET IT UP. THEN YOU GOT SOME WITH THEIR PANTS HANGING LOW IN THE FRONT!
FOR THEM TO BE SO STRAIGHT, SO HOMOPHOBIC, THEY SHO GIVE THE GAY MAN PLENTY OF EYE CANDY! AND IT SEEMS THE ONE'S WIT THE BIG ASSES ALWAYS HAVE THEM OUT...
and brothers know how to dress....i'm in my steve harvey swag right now....but when i feel like dressing down i shouldn't become a felon for it...
and i love my sisters, but chill, before they start arresting yall for heels that are too tall, or shorts that are too short, or spaghetti straps and tube tops....
ever heard of the slippery slope? first its us, then its yall....be careful who and what u support.
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SO SICK OF BLACK PEOPLE ALWAYS MAKING EXCUSES. GET YO SHYT TOGETHER! STOP BEING SO DAMN IGNORANT. ITS MORE TO LIFE THAN HOW WE TRY TO EXPRESS OURSELVES. TRY TO DO SOMETHING TO IMPROVE YOUR FUTURE, THIS LIFE IS REAL! ITS MORE THAN GOLD TEETH, RIMS, AND SOME HEAD! GO AND ASK SOME OF THE HOMELESS MEN ON THE STREET
Hello to all...this is my 1st post but this story pissed me off so bad that I HAD to comment! Thanks to truthteller912 for his comment. I dont know WTF is wrong with all the black people that said "It's about time....and...I'm tired of seeing that anyway". We need each and every black person to stand up adamantly against this because this is not about saggin pants, its about the constant profiling of black people and especially black men.
I for one don�t like saggin pants either but I do however LOVE the Constitution. This is America people. I am from Cincinnati, OH and every year he kkk burns a cross downtown. The police actually stand there with them to protect their right of freedom of speech and expression. The klan can disrespect the entire city, not just black folks as one of his RIGHTS, and you mean to tell me that a grown a** man cant wear his pants the way they want? This is a form of 2008 Jim Crow laws. If our only reaction as a people is to start wearing our pants around our waist, then we will always be subject to this sort of profiling.
The saggin' needs to go, but a law is the wrong solution. Do women actually think sagging is attractive? Or is it just thug? You can rock baggy jeans and not have to sag. Even with a long shirt you still look like a "poop-butt". Maybe it's an age thing. And about this being racist? That's BS... you want respect? Then respect your self. PULL YA PANTS UP!
Prime example, a mall in Cincinnati enforced a âNO WHITE TEESâ rule. There were speculations that this was racially charged rule, especially sense the mall is located in a predominantly white neighborhood. Some college students, black AND white did an experiment. The black males wore there white tees around the mall for all of twenty mins before they were asked to leave for disobeying the Mall dress code. LMAO! Later that day, the white students walked around the mall the entire afternoon in their white tees, undisturbed! They actually had to go to the mall security and draw attention to the fact that they were wearing white tees! As you could imagine, the rule was expelled shortly after. Please donât be fooled by this black people. Iâm bout to start workin on a petition right now! Sorry I wrote so much. This kinda sh*t gets me fired up! Please wake up to all those in here that are too naive to see that this is racism at its finest. BARACK 08!
@ the saggin' Saggin' makes you look like you take it in the a$$ anyway, So if that's how you want to look than that's on you.
@ places in Michigan Also they have plenty of racism up there. Certain places have the right to not serve whoever after 7:30 pm for whatever reason so they didn't serve my sister b/c she was Black.
Sagging pants is nasty, but we shouldn't be imprisoning people for it. That's just ridiculous, a fine I can understand, Michigan needs the money. But prison? The young men will come out more criminal then they were before they went in. This is going to provide major problems here. What about young men in college? We're just going to snatch them out of school because their pants were too low? I can't believe anyone would co-sign on jail for sagging pants when people who DRIVE DRUNK and HAVE SEX IN PUBLIC!! get off with less than this. Unbelievable. I'm all for the fine, but I can't believe anyone would think jail time is appropriate.
Sagging pants is not a good thing and all but its more serious issues out here like these perverts getting young children, rapes, gangs (etc.) but they want to worry about SOME PANTS?????? Come on now PO'PO??? PLEASE put this at the bottom of the list...its not that serious..no one is dying or getting hurt off of sagging pants....let's get these homeless kids off the streets or something worth it...not PANTS!
THIS IS TAKING IT TOO FAR. BUT I DO SAY OLDER BROTHERS NEED TO BE AN EXAMPLE FOR THE YOUNG BROTHERS BY DRESSING THE PART. HOW YOU GON BE 30 SOMETHING YRS OLD AND STILL SAGGIN...ITS TIME TO GET YOUR GROWN MAN ON. I DO BELIEVE SAGGING PANTS IS A TEEN FASHION STATEMENT AND THEY WILL EVENTUALLY GROW OUT OF IT. YOU CAN STILL LOOK FLY BY WEARING FORM FITTING CLOTHES AND NOT BE CATEGORIZED AS PREPPY.
Lets keep it real...
MF's are getting unnecessary with the sag. I've never been a saggy pants guy. Baggy...sure, but the way young cats are saggy now-a-days is stupid. Who told brothas this schitt was cool. It's got to the point that cats are saggin tight jeans. Come on now...
Anything more that the waist ban of your boxers showing and youre trippin. Try buying pants that actually fit so you dont have to sag to prevent from floodin. And at least wear clean boxers...not the dingy ones you've been wearing all week.
And its not racist. White boys only sag because they're trying to be black.
I guess its more down low brothas than we think. Schitt is getting embarrassing.
i APPLAUD THE POLICE EFFORTS. SINCE MANY BLACK MEN DON'T HAVE FATHER'S A A MALE ROLE MODEL, SOCIETY GOTTA RAISE THEM. I APPLAUD THIS LAW. THIS IS GREAT. THE POLICE GOTTA CLEAN UP THE STREETS SOME KIND OF WAY. WHAT BETTER WAY TO DO IT THAN TO LOCK KNUCKLEHEADS UP WHO TRYING TO BE HARD AND ALL GANGSTA. LITTLE NEGGROS NEED TO BE TRYING TO GET AN EDUCATION. I SAY LOCK EM UP FOR DRESSING LIKE A GANG BANGER!
it's about time , even the butch women sagging . lol , yesterday this white dude came on the bus , all cool with his dark shades on , sagging like whoa , tattoes all over , yo and not to mension his walk lol it was funny , he was the shyt, came down to the back of the bus sat down and folded his arms , saying what what
If this is true..then there should be a law against these nappy headed hood divas who wear nothing at all in public..no one says nothing bout how females dress..i think a female wearing clothes cut up to her azz should be banned in public and is worst than guys sagging..all a double standard.
Since Men like seeing women half naked..the law will never see the light..but can hate on guys dressing baggy..makes no sense..
Wait a minute should women go to jail to for wearin low hip huggers? they show the crack of ya'll ass too. What crime is it to sag. what about thongs at the beach. that show more as than saggin. Every body that sags ain't gangsta. that is racial profiling and who ever is agreeing to this nonsense is stupid. They are targeting young black males. you should be against young black males going to jail. It is too many of use in there. I can't help but sag like the first image cause I don't by tight as jeans. the Only way not to sag is if you wear your jeans tight like a cowboy and ain't no broke back in me. So I refuse...
What about the Cowboys shouldn't they get fined for wearin them tight as jeans show their man bulge. nobody wants to see that [EXPLETIVE] either. Ya'll lettin them get over on us. You betta watch they slick asses. Ya'll black women running around here agreeing to this [EXPLETIVE] you ain't gonna have a choice but to date outside your race which I know ya'll despise so much since you talk so much shyte on here about interracial couples.
white men sag too. I see those fat f u c kin white dudes every day with those too little as jeans and can't pull them up all the way to they waist and they don't even have drawers on. Nasty. at least all you see on us is our boxers. wich covers up the same as shorts. Stop lettin them get over on us.
Is this a law for just men or what??!! What about women wearin skirts so shorts u can see the bottom of they ass cheecks?? Or wearing no bra wit they nipples poking all out??!! Im tired of goin to the club and women get in wearing whatever the hell they want, but I cant get in cause my clothes are too "baggy". And on top of that women showin ass crack, and thongs more than anybody!! Dont get me wrong, I love half dressed women, but this is a double standard like a muh [EXPLETIVE]!!
@CaramelSugarpie27 u sound a bit personal hmm anyways some of you r in a bad state geting ur freedom taken from you second the first pic nthen aint wrong the 3rd pic hmm i dont kno y some 1 would wana show their ass crack anyways the 2nd pic is silly to but to tell sme 1 hey buyin a pants thats to big for you is a crime hmm not so sure about that and if these people really want play the law game they should b some against women 2
As a black man it is embarrassing to see these ni88as with their pants below their butts and wearing over sized white tees. Why should we allow this to continue, we need to stand up for our people and make a positive change. There is nothing positive about a young black male with his pants off his waist. We are indulging our youth its ok to be a thug/gangster in truly we are allowing them to FAIL. Is there a future for a thug is there a pension or retirement plan. All it is monetary hood riches and theres no longevity but life of incarceration and early DEATH. Whos going to hire someone that cant wear his pants correctly? Then we say their being racist, and police is always picking on us change your appearance stop looking like a thug. Stop embracing this embarrassment only successful people that sag or rapper and there are in character. Rappers that are very successful charge their image to one of a businessman (JAZ-Z, Master P). Our kids need better role models DOCTERS, LAWYERS, CEOS, POLITICIANS, BUSINESS OWNERS, TEACHER. They need not to idolize Lil Wayne, Snoop Dogg, Plies, and Tyga. Give our kids a chance to succeed instill the value of an education. I know the Ghetto parent or should I say ghetto mothers will be pitching a b**ch when their child is charge with sagging but these same parent will not attend a teacher/parent conference about their childs education. Next we need to ban tattoos on your face, forearms and hands.
BLACK MEN STEP UP AND BE A FATHER AND DON'T ALLOW THE GOVERNMENT TO RAISE OWN KIDS THIS IS AN ATTEMPT TO SHOW US WE ARE NOT DOING OUR JOB AS FATHERS. TEACH OUR BOYS HOW TO BE PRODUCTIVE MEN.
Wake up! I dont want to be a ni88a for life
. Hood Raised South Central Los Angeles Now you KNOW!!!!!!!!
Sagging pants ought to be a felony. And for those saying it's racist, it's not. White kids sag too and look even worse than Black kids to me.
I'm 33 years old and have never sagged my pants. I go back as far as the tighty-whitey era and we didn't do it back then. Boxers are in now. That's cool, but they're still "UNDERWEAR" and should not be shown.
Sagging pants categorize you automatically as a low-life, uneducated thug, whether or not you belong there. White folks are no smarter than we, but they make the rules and know when to fix themselves up. Self-expression is cool, but we can't allow it to denigrate us as Black men.
Shout out to all my lovely Black sistas for holdin' it down.
It's illegal to sag but your shirt off is ok (like a redneck no shoes, no shirt, no problem). look at the images they have their shirt off that is y everything is exposed. Nothing is wrong with it every race wxposes themselves. I just want to know Y target sagging and not the other indecent things that all the other races do. Please tell me y it is right for them to say we have to follow these rules but no one else is gonna even have rules. We still slaves stop being so ignorant.
Andre Since every kid who sags is a thug.Isn't it fair to say every cowboy is gay? They want you to go by their rules they don't care about gangs or thugs cause if that was the case Y even let them wear their colors in groups. Let's make everyone wear hot pink. Yea tight hot pink pants. It might b a good look. You never know til they make you do it.
I agree with Real100 @ vet0202 your taking this the wrong way, it's not like someone is violating your freedom of speech, I mean donchu get upset when you see a big bitch in some little thongs? In your mind you're thinking "if she wants to wear em, fine but must I know"? I get tired of lookin at dudes with their pants sagging, that look came from the pen so when I see that the first thing I think is "oh he's a felon, or on his way" and yes it's stereotyping but if it walks like a duck quacks like a duck then.......... (im sure you can finish it off).. my point is, if you don't want to be labeled as a drug dealer, deadbeat dad, uneducated felon, wife beater, and any other label that comes along with that look then dont put yourself out there like that, it's just that simple. Besides like justlovely08 said that look is old anyways, I like to see men in dress shirts and jeans with some fresh white air force ones. When I see a dude saggin I be thinkin he broke, that sh1t looks hella tacky....
I mean did they wake up one day and say Y do we have so much crime. Oh it's the guys who sag. Like dudes who wear tight pants don't grow up to b criminals. Stereo typin is a Muthafucka. No ya'll are right some white kids sag, but all our children sag. Plus their parents are not gonna let there children wear them anymore. Grown white dudes don't sag. The majority of adult black males do. So you tell me who this is gonna affect most. Us or them. Our kids problem isn't sagging it is us not teachin them right from wrong. Broken house holds. Make it illegal to leave ya baby mama. Not to sag.
The look came from the pen!!! Why would you want to walk around lookin like a dayum felon if you're not one?!? I mean my people we have to do better mayne it's not about what the white man thinks it's about setting a better example for the next generation coming up! How are you going to raise your son to stay away from the streets and sh1t if you're walkin around lookin like an extra from the movie "Colors"??? That sh1t aint cool and Im glad my man is on some grown man sh1t and he doesn't wear his pants below his waist, and I have seen some men with dusty ass outdated underwear on, now see that aint none of my business if you don't wash ya ass....
I'M SO GLAD THIS IS A LAW.... PULL YA PANTS UP!!! IT'S A CRIME FOR ME TO SEE YOUR ASS, TALK ABOUT ALL THE OTHER CRIMES OUT THERE. IF WE DON'T CONSENT TO SEE UR ASS THEN IT SHOULDN'T BE SHOWN, SO I'M HAPPY FOR THIS LAW. NOW MAYBE OUR BLACK MEN AND SOME BLACK WOMEN CAN FOCUS ON SOMETHING ELSE BESIDES WALKING AROUND OUT TOWNS AND STATES LOOKING LIKE IGNORANT IDIOTS!!
Y do all our stereotypes become laws. Why is it ok for white people to walk around all day with no shirt on and no shoes ( their kids the same way) and no laws are being put in for that. I don't wanna see their red pimple backs either. I am just sayin it should b a revolving door. Since it isn't then they are targeting us. Y isn't there an image of the fat white trucker who never wears drawers but can't buy pants big enough to fit him. So all you see is the crack of his ass. Why the images of our so called sagging. You know Y cause we are being targeting.
Vet0202 I respect what you're sayin' brother, but we don't make the rules. And when I spoke of categorization, I thought I said whether or not you belong there. White kids, Latino kids or any other race sagging their pants are not looked upon favorably either. It's not just Blacks.
There are a ton of injustices out there. We, as Black men must stand up and exhibit the correct behaviors. If we're old as heck saggin' our pants, how do we expect the younger generation to comport? I'm not knockin' how hard it is out there. I'm a dark-skinned, educated Black man living in the south. However, we have to choose our battles man and this is not one I wish to fight because it only holds us back. That's what they want anyway.
It is about time that black men and all those who sport their pants below there azz showing their draws starting having and showing a little more respect for themselves instead of trying to emulate the ghetto thug lifestyle and mentality. The sad part is that they couldnt come to this conclusion on their own and had to be told that it is not cool to look like a damn bum. Really, what woman wants a man that looks as if he has no aspiration for a better future!!??
all of you need to read up on the law in the library not MTO.
This law was not passed anywhere.
It is a sample that someone wrote.
It is not a law and it will never be a law.
local governments have been tryin to make it a misdemeaner for years and it has not passed once. so what would make you idiots think that it would pass as a felony?
Tell me y haven't they come out with a law for white poeple and the lack of clothes they wear. jeans with wholes everywhere exposing ass checks cause they ain't if got no underwear on. Please this is America's racism. I don't see Y you would even want to look like a white man? I( wear suits too. It is not my everyday attire cause I am not comfortable. what I wear is about comfort and what gives the government the right to tell me about it and not adress all our issues. Not just the black ones. All ya'll talkin about how the black guys need to be puished. Who side are ya'll on do ya'll really think it is ok for a black male not to sag but a white guy can?
What makes it so bad that it has to cary felony charges. That's the same thing as them tellin us we can't say [EXPLETIVE]. It was ok when they invented the damn word. Now that we say to our closest and dearest friends and banned them from sayin it (cause we'll kick their ass and we aren't allowed to pass laws). Now they want to make it illegal for us to say it. who is the word hurting right now not me. It would have back in 1810. Not now Y was it ok then and not now. They are doin what ever they want to us and ya'll so gullable ya'll can't even see it.
ok women i feel you when you say you tired of seeing men ("we're not going to say black even through thats whothe law would be clearly for we'll just say men")dress with their ass3s out but think about this, what if i told you that the way you dress when you are on your free time' "not at work not in school but in the streets of free america which we are so glad we live in because we have rights" was disgracefull there would be millions upon millions of independent women saying you cant tell me how to dress tis is america. dats all women where just asking you to put on the other shoe..... who ever put this law into affect is giving cops and who ever that is a lawman the right to harrass me or any other law abiding citizen.........thier are no laws that prevent inapporiate dress for any one other then one sector making the law a discriminatory law i just say this which ever women put this lawe into the heads of everyone that it would be a wonderful idea to police the sagg of pants should be charged for evry lawsuit that is filed as a responce to being issued a charge for saggin pants cause the law wil be change once the right person gets in trouble for it believe dat then you guys will see how much racism really does exsist in modern america for those babies born in the 9's with a false sense of equality and an idea that racism doesn't exsist and that they dont experience it well wake up call they have now moverd from focucing on my generation which is x and now there on the new generation who's next you never know " i wounder how a weave band woudl be greated lorrd knows dat sh!t is tacky but none the less its your choice to wear it ya feel me
White boy sag but I bet they are not gonna b the ones getting arrested. Look at the pics does that look like white boy jeans. The majority of white boys who sag have them skinny legged jeans on with the wallet connected to the chain. those jeans in those pics are baggy jeans. Yes the same one you see all over the hood. We are the target don't b fooled.
just another way to take our minds off of what is really going on, i mean are you serious, this type of stuff goes on in miami too but i dont know if they are strict about it tho, unless you got your assss out like the third pick i dont see a problem! some people just gonna sag not knowing what the real meaning is
About damn time... They need to pass this into law all over the country and enforce it. It should also apply to chicks who are walking around showing the crack of their a$$ because either the pants are one size too small and can't pull em up any further or too much of a lowrider jean. I myself (like many) am tired of having to look at others' a$$es and draws, many times to make things worse sh1tty dirty draws. How about when they can't even walk up a flight of stairs cuyz they're pants don't allow 'em to lift their leg, looking like they have a physical, walking impediment, walking around looking all "quack quack" or they're walking like they stepping over puddles and sh!t. Not a good look buddy LMAO!
Ok ya'll talkin about banning it cause dudes in jail like to so tail, right? If it is a gay thing Y can men marry men? But a Mutha [EXPLETIVE] can't sag??? It is racist who cares what the meaning is. If all the poeple who were gay were black I bet that every state in the united states would b against gay marriages. That is what I am talkin about the double standard. Fu ck all that other shiite. Y do every thing I do have to take you to jail. If I wore tight pants I bet that would b banned too.
To everyone thinking its not racist just because white kids sag too....I have news for you...thats exactly WHY they hate it so much. Ni99as been saggin 4 years now. They only care now-a-days cuz little Joey down the street does it too! They never cared about rap til the Beastie Boys, they never cared about crack until white kids were doing it too. Look how they act over Meth. There are so many anti meth programs and meth recovery centers, because that is an epidemic in the white community. Crack has been killing our people for years. Of course I'm not down talking the making of any anti-drug institution, and in no way am I saying that only black people smoke crack, or that only white people smoke meth. WHat I am saying is that we as a people have to notice the sense of urgency that America gets when their own are involved.
@Treasure T.. Well, what do you say? I am not mad at WHITE AMERICA for stepping in and trying to say something about it when it affects their "LIl JOEY". I dont blame them one bit!
If we (BLACKS) cant take it upon ourselves to promote better self-values and ideals, some has to. Most people dont care about problems until it directly affects them or someone close.
The problem with BLACK AMERICA is that we think anything we do should GO. That is not always the case. We are always screaming RACISM and honestly, we are more racist against ourselves than the WHITE MAN is to us. We focus on the wrong things, we invest in the wrong things, we materialize everything, and we fail to COME TOGETHER FOR THE GOOD, not just for ANYTHING.
I dont call it racism, I call it-- I AM NOT GOING TO LET YOUR RIDICULOUS VALUES FLOOD MY COMMUNITY! Thats exactly what I call it. And if they can stick together, why cant we?
Why havent we been saying something? Why didnt some BLACK representative, group, organization, celebrity, baller, etc, step up and try to promote a better IMAGE. Why? Because we want to be KNOWN as the REBELLIOUS ONE who doesnt GIVE A F****! Agree with me or not, I am sick of us always shifting the blame.
We need to be Going deep into our HOODS & the GHETTO and start there. We need to preaching and teaching better values. yeah, America is home of the free, but also home to the IGNORANT and MINDLESS
AND I WOULDNT SAY IT IS A GAY THING, IT IS A IGNORANT THING. BUT I CAN SAY THAT A GAY MAN, A PERVERT, A PEDOPHILE, ETC CAN SURELY GET HIS ROCKS OFF WATCHING DUDES WITH THEIR TIGHT UNDIES ON AND PANTS UNDER THEIR CHEEKS.
SAGGING USE TO BE AIIGHT, WHEN IT WAS JUST A LIL OFF THE WAIST, BUT NOW, IT IS TERRIBLE, RIDICULOUS.
How is it affecting lil Joey. He still gonna get what every white men get. I don't know what it is cause I ain't white. But whatever it is he will get it (job or what ever it is credit etc.). Me I am being me (a [EXPLETIVE]). Nothing else I can be. I won't change cause someone doesn't like how I dress. When they see lil joey saggin they just see lil Joey saggin. Me they see a Ni99a saggin. If I wasn't sagging I 'd be a ni99a not sagging. So why don't the law just be Ni99as are banned.
@ANTI-DUMB....if you were indeed what your names suggest, you would agree that racist or not, it is a violation of AMERICAN rights. I hate to hear that you feel so poorly about your people but I do not.
We are a CULTURE and since when does different equal VILE? Why is saggin low standards? Because some white person told you it was? I was excited to read your comment because I thought you of all people would see the sedition of this.
The day ANY American, no matter what race, is locked up for their WARDROBE, not the lack there of, but simply the WAY that they wear their clothes, is the end of this place that PRIDES ITSELF IN BEING THE LAND OF THE FREE.
I dont blame you VET0202...you have ever right. I pity the fool that doesnt realize that. White people used to say that afros were "disruptive" LMAO! I wonder is that why we stopped wearing those too? StopHatin1st please, name me just one situation that you know where someone was hurt or killed by saggin pants. "We focus on the wrong things, we invest in the wrong things, we materialize everything, and we fail to COME TOGETHER FOR THE GOOD, not just for ANYTHING." - StopHatin1st Dont you think Flint Michigan focused on the wrong thing with their crime rate the way it is, lockin people up 4 sum damn pants? Oh I 4got, saggin pants are the reason people commit crimes. LMAO!
Just cause he black don't make him the leader of the NAACP. Blacks think dressin like a white man is cool. I don't but it doesn't give him the right to throw someone in jail for 93 days. Tell me when the last time some one died of sagging? so Y is it such a problem you have to be locked up. Smokin kills more people than gang voilence. and you are tellin me that it is still legal to smoke cigarrettes. When is somebody gonna step in and do something about that. Tell your beloved cheif of police to ban that. Some that is destroyin not just blacks but everyone across the board. Like I said there are more pressing matters than the way someone wears their clothes. Get the gun laws straight first. Don't just target me and my race. Even if he is black he retarded.
@vet0202 You are right. But back in my day, I am only 28, that is what SAGGING was and if I did, boy, didnt GRANDPA, GRANDMAMA, NEIGHBOR, MOM, DAD, PREACHER, ETC, yell, boy, if you dont go and pull your pants up or put a belt on.
You see, it was a MAJOR issue as it is now. It wasnt that we were pulling our pants so low that it caused a scene.
You wont go to jail though for the first picture, just a warning. I guess they have to start somewhere.
And even know, with this as they call it, the "KANYE MOVEMENT" which was actually started by our people in the 70s, tight jeans were once a fashion trend. Even with that, they now have on these tight A** jeans, yet manage a way to squeeze their A** out of them..
I guess everyone will end up with their own view, which is understandable.
@treasure T I never mentioned one thing about SAGGIN PANTS equating with CRIME. How you came up with that, I dunno.
Its about SELF-RESPECT, VALUES, MORALS, BEING DECENT.
I dont think flint is focused on the wrong thing, sometimes you gotta go to the ROOT of the problem. It starts with IMAGE, it starts with INDIVIDUALS.... Most people sagging have no respect for themselves or others, which could equate with them not caring about you, your belongings, or anything else, thus, an increase in crime... I am not going to LMAO because the issue is deeper than what you can see
COME ON! THIS IZ REALLY STOOPID! FOR ALL YALL WOMEN WHO AGREE WIT THIS YALL ARE A BUNCH OF DONKEYS, CAUSE U DONT SEE THE BIGGER PICTURE; U MIGHT SAY "OH THAT WILL NEVER BE MY MAN, CAUSE U ONLY DATE WHITE COLLAR GUYZ IN SUITS", BUT REMEMBER THIS THEY GOTTA GET OUTTA THAT SUIT SUMTYME AND CHILL OUT WIT THEIR FRIENDS & FAMILY! AND MOST LYKELY IT'LL BE YOUR MAN GETTIN LOCKED UP AND HAVIN TO SHARE A CELL WIT THAT GUY WHO 'LYKES BOOTY!!'
IF U REALLY WANNA SUPPORT THIS, THEN I SAY THERE SHOULD ALSO HAVE A BANNED ON YOU WOMEN WEAR LOW CUT SHIRTS AND LOW RIDER JEANS SHOWIN OFF YA BREAST AND BUTT CRACKS TOO. . . . COZ I HATE THAT U WOMEN CAN DRESS SOOOO SEDUCTIVELY AND WHEN A BROTHER COMPLEMENTS U IN HIS OWN LIL WAY, YALL ARE TOO BUSY WIT YA NOSES STUCK IN THE AIR!!!
WHY DRESS LYKE THAT IF I CANT TAKE YOU OUT!!!
I've said it from day one from youngn's to grown azz men(who are not in correctional facilities)Y'all need to pull your pants up! That's gay with them joints hanging almost down to your knees;as well as those tight azz jeans that all these kids are wearing nowadays-then on top of that trying to walk around like their hard niccas gimme a break man please..Following that Kanye West batty boy look will get you fcked up talking slick while you're lookin'like a teenage B I now that's funny. But on the real my dudes walking excuse me (waddling)from side to side like a bunch of muhfuhkin'penguins lookin'like you sht in your drawers is not gangsta, holds no swagger, and doesn't say a damn thing of any relevance about you except that you've had a poor upbringing, haven't had your moms or grandmother tell you that no self-respecting young man(let alone man) would walk around the streets like that if they had any pride,dignity,or self-awareness of self in how they're perceived by their peers,the po-po,their elders,and lastly but leastly their communities .Real Talk.Brooklyn Lives-Nas is stillmatic.
What you have to understand is, it's just a style...you and you and you might not like it but they gonna keep on doin what they do.
I HATE how the ones who listen to that heavy metal rock wear those things in the ears to make a huge ass hole, I think there should be a law for that $#!T but you dont see anyone taking action on that. It's a style
Get over it, you dont like it, say your opinion because you know, everyone is entitled to their own opinion, just keep it moving yo. To make a law for the saggy pants? That's just rediculous.
Its about time they passed that law. When are they going to pass it here in New Jersey cause i'm tired of these guys "booty-tizing" for you that don't know what that means it's advertizing their dirty,clean,colorful,new or old underwear and sometimes their butt-cheecks.That trend needs to come to an "end" and for you monkeys who wants to keep that trend grow up and act like a reponsible adults cause kids follow trends not adults we set them. PLease please please pass this law here in new jeresy ASAP.
WHEN WILL YALL REALIZE THAT THE LAW IS HERE TO DIVIDE US MORE THAN WE ALREADY ARE....ITS YOUNG V.S. OLD AS WE SPEAK...NOW WITH THIS LAW U GOT SOME OLDER PPL SAYING "I AGREE WITH THIS...IM TIRED OF LOOKING AT THEY ASSES"...FIRST OFF Y U LOOKING?...SECOND IF U THINK THIS WILL STOP PPL FROM SAGGIN U GOT LIFE F'D UP...AND TO THOSE WHO CLAIM THIS IS NOT RACIAL PROFILING...WHO ELSE SAG LIKE THE EXAMPLES ABOVE?...ITS CLEAR WHO THIS IS INTENDED FOR...IF ANYTHING U WOULD WANT A SOMEONE TO SAG CUZ IF THEY COMMIT A CRIME ON U U CAN CATCH EM QUICKER THAN IF THEY HAD THEY PANTS UP LOL...ALL IM SAYING IS STOP AGREEING WITH SOMETHING THAT IS INTENDED TO DIVIDE US MORE THAN WE ALREADY ARE
@ KevsBlkDiamond
LOL I NEVER NOTICE THAT! THE WORD 'SAGGIN' SPELLED BACKWARDS IZ. . . .
BUT WAIT I THOUGHT WE LIVED IN AMERICA! NOT CUBA OR CHINA! AND ISNT OUR COUNTRYS STAND SUPPOSED 2B 'LAND OF THE FREE' ARENT WE A COUNTRY OF DEMOCRACY??? YALL ARE REALLY BACKIN THIS CRAZY LAW AND DONT REALIZIN THAT ITZ GONNA AFFECT YOU AND/OR YOUR KIDS SO HARD 30 YEARS FROM NOW. . . .
IDK PEOPLE THEY HAVE BEEN TRYIN TO PUSH THIS "LAW" FROM TYME 2 TYME IN EVERY STATE FOR SO LONG NOW! BUT NOBODYS SUPPORTIN IT FULLY THATZ WHY IT NEVER GOT ALL THE WAY THROUGH, , , ,
BUT IM GETTIN OLDER AND MORE FOCUS ON CATCHIN UP ON ALL MY BILLS WHILE THE NEWER GENERATION AND ALL CONFUSED WEARIN "2-TIGHT-2-FIGHT" JEANS!! AND YA LIP GLOSS IZ POPPIN!! I GUESS IF YOU THINK ABOUT IT, IF THEY MANAGE TO GET IT GOIN IN JUST ONE(1) STATE, THEN THEY'LL SAY SUMMIN LYKE: "IT WORK WELL IN 'STATE A' WE THINK WE'LL MOVE IT ON OVER TO 'STATE B, C,D' etc."
Vet, from what I've read here the rule doesn't only apply to minorities. Not unless minorities are the only ones living in Flint, Michigan! The rule applies to all they catch doing it.
I agree with KevsBlackDiamond (by the way you FINE too sister)! We have to learn how to handle ours. Are there worse crimes, sure. It still doesn't negate the fact that saggin' pants is degrading and denigrating. I'm sorry. That's just how I feel. And I don't wear my jeans tight either Vet, but they don't sag. If you can't help but to wear your jeans like the first photo you may have other issues keeping your pants down there.
What's next?You have to cross to the other side of the street when someone non-black is walking towards you(Jim Crow)law. [EXPLETIVE] the law. What about the sluts that's walking down the street naked on the Las Vegas Strip? No human has the right to tell another what they should not wear. The human body is beautiful and I wish we all was just running around naked so we wouldn't have this problem. This is just another way to harrass young black men. Black People should take control of your own lives and stop letting outsiders dictate what we should or shouldn't do. Get some back bone! America,home of the hyprocites and sheep
Most of these comment that people post say that this is to just get the black man behind bars and so on about how this is racists. Well listen to yourself!!! DO YOU REALLY THINK THAT BLACK MEN ARE THE ONLY MEN WHO SAG?!? Come on now, I know you people are smarter then that. I really dont care what you wear or how you wear it. But dont be ignorant about making a comment about a law made by Politian that YOU put into office. I think the new law is pretty lame, but at the end of the day, it was put into place to better YOUR community, NOT TO ONLY PUT BLACK MEN behind bars. and i agree with cbloxie comment too.
@kingofdetroit
You're delusional my dude.This is about taking pride in yourself while your out in the street.Also the elders have nothing to do with this course of action youngn's that I know here in NY don't want to see their peers walking around like do-do penguins in diapers either.Your opinion is flawed and bathed in narrowmindedness;Free your mind champ.Real Talk.Brooklyn Lives-FREE SHYNE PO!!!
Yea sagging with ya ass hanging out looks stupid but go after the real criminals. I hate to sag but I forget my belt sometimes and its annoying to have to pull up my pants every few minutes.I think that its not really about trying to lock people up but more of a way the state can gain revenue by fining the hell out of people.
sigh*******...@3xSTHAlADY.....First let me say I'm from Detroit and there is quite a few black people in the state of Michigan... Not so much in Flint, but the cities like Detroit, Pontiac, Auburn Hills, just to name a few are 80 to 85% black...so please stop adding and subtracting to things you REALLY don't know about...
@ Legacy_Dolla......How is this racist??? Never once in the entire article did I read...ANY BLACK MAN CAUGHT SAGGING WILL GO TO JAIL!!.. it said if YOU..meaning WHOEVER is caught will be going to the whosgal...if you have a problem with it, let me think....PULL UP YO DAMN PANTS!!..I swear we MAKE EVERYTHING RACIST... if the sun shine too bright its because we black, if the wind blow to hard its because we black, if the store close @ 7 and we get there @ 8 and can't get in...ITS BECAUSE WE BLACK!!! MY GOD!!! Enough already!!! Stop using race as a crutch..yes i'm black, and happy to be black My mother is a doctor and my father a Bishop, and we ALL BLACK...stop making excuses for refusing to grow up!!!good evening!!
black men arent the only men that sag (its more black men that sag than any other race)i see y they r doing it i dont want 2 see men/boys underwear and im pretty sure half of yall thinking the same but they dont have 2 throw them in jail they can just fine them (the lower they're sagging the more they have 2 pay)i think they r being too extreme with this
ALERT...ALERT..ALERT...(sigh). People have a right for feeling like this a good thing. I can't act like I have neva sagged. The way I see it being done now is to the extreme. Once we started exposing our ass cracks and underwear we gave them the loophole they needed to not only say they don't want to see it but they will throw us in jail if it is not in compliance with some bootleg ass chart. So how is this going to work. Are they going to ride aroung with a card board cut out of a "nicca" with a sag swag. This is completely subjective. So you know what this means for us...just anutha reason to harrass and lock up....LET'S REACT ACCORDINGLY!!
The one thing I hate about that look is it makes everybody's legs look about two feet high, hasn't anybody noticed it makes you look like a midget walking around? Stumpy little legs and a big old tshirt that looks like a dress over it? I hate this style and also hate all the ladies bras showing, straps, entire back, etc. It's called UNDERwear people, leave it under your clothes
They've put this law into effect in some counties here in St. Louis...
I don't know man. I work at a middle school and I have to tell at least two to three boys a day to pull their pants up-not just black boys either. They might as well just walk around in their underwear if they need to sag so low. Not to mention if I see you from the front and your damn package is bulging out...keep that *ish private man. The pants are gettin lower and the shirts are getting shorter. They're not just sagging from the back now...lol.
The felony charge though has me wondering. Is it really that serious? I don't think so.
@vet: What does dressing like a white man mean? Having class? That's like telling someone to stop talking like a white person because they speak in correct grammatical form...
While I am not a fan of sagging pants (the "warning" pic is about as much as I can tolerate), the punishment does not fit the crime. I don't even see it as a crime! It's distasteful, but not a crime. Well, until you start showing asscrack, but if that's the case then they need to penalize all those heiffers out there wearing low-cut hiphugger jeans with their plumber's crack showing.
Now yo dumb ass done gone and have the whities tell u how to dress too.
He tell u how much support u should give to ur children.
He tell u when to get off the streets next he gonna be telling u what field to be picking in again lol
What they should do is offer them belts as a warning instead of over crowding the jail with pants saggers but ----
what they really r doing is feeding those lifers with fresh MEAT n u young 1's just don't get it - u so bad dodge that.
If the police had a history of being FAIR and this was truly a problem, not just a concern, then MAYBE I could understand. But this is not a major issue, and it is not worth making YOUNG BOYS into Felons.. All of you up here supporting this are really only thinking of one thing, that you don't like sagging pants. But, some people dont like big ass titties hanging out either, or next if your shorts are too short, then its a FELONY! Give it up. This racism!
To all the young brothers and young people in general who still can understand or see what the big deal is on this issue in regards to the way you are perceived besides your melanin in the public eye may I suggest watching the second installment of CNN's presents: 'Black in America' tonight @ 9p. Tonight's second part is on'The Black Man'and his plight and struggle of being Black in America.Real Talk.Brooklyn Lives-Being Educated, Smart, and having some goddmn sense makes sense let us not run from these three but towards them-not today,or tomorrow,but immediately.."
SHEEYIT! IT'S ABOUT TIME!! Nuccas act like exposing their hairy azz-cracks is so fly. Forget being "racist"!! Whose fault is it that most of the dumb mofos who wear their pants that low are black?! And for all these fools who'd rather be in the streets than with a diploma, that's what they get! Black people always wanna get ahead but without compromising how "hood" they are. GET A GRIP! They don't wanna look "soft" in front of they boys by doing anything worthwhile, and some of these chicks don't wanna look "uppity" because they're not waiting around for a man to take care of them and their problems. If you stay put, of course the world's gonna pass you by!
Yeah we've been down for a minute but with everything so available to us now (affirmative action, college funds, etc.) we're still stuck in the same d@mn spot! MLK is probably turning in his grave 1000 times over. DO SOMETHING first, THEN complain! And if you're going to complain, come correct! "That's racist!" will NOT be taken seriously anymore!
We need to stop playing the race card, that's why we're not getting anywhere now! Maybe going to jail is a little extreme, and the fine could be a little lower, but still! Would you give an office job to a white guy with a holey wifebeater and a John Deere trucker hat? That's how dumb saggin pants look!
Y'all need to watch CNN's "Black in America" (tonight at 9pm) or "The Boondocks" or something that will bring us to some serious realization!
To all the true americans...black, white, yellow purple, saggers and non-saggers who can see through this constitutional right violating bullsh*t I am creating a petition. PLease dont give the police another reason to racially profile. Hit me up on my myspace if you're interested in signing it. P.S...To all the dumb a** people sayin that its not racist because there isnt even that many black people in Flint, thats precisely why it is racist. They dont want you there!
A little clarification on this issue. The new Flint Police Chief, David Dick, a BLACK MAN, saw a need to address a major issue plaguing our youth and decided to do something about it. Saggin, aka [EXPLETIVE], represents a negative part of our culture. As black people we must teach our youngmen to respect themselves and those around them. Show me someone who sags and I'll show you someone that has possibly committed other crimes. It is all relative. The image of a person that sags suggest that the person could be a criminal. Perception is reality. If you dress like a criminal it is percieved that you act like a criminal, so you will be treated like a criminal. See how its all relative? This law/enforcement also gives police probable cause to search you and check to see if you have committed other crimes.
@vet0202 @Slimbrotha101 @HaHaDaVille @MRBITCHES @TinyTim13 @kingofdetroit DO I SMELL DOWN LOW BROTHAASSS!!!!! SINCE U MAD U WANT TO SHOW YOUR CRACKS WILL GO 2 JAIL & SHOW YOUR CRACKS FAGGGSSSSS
@REAL100 U R SO REALLLLL FEELING U!!!
justlovely08 welp...sucks for them its not a good look though, sagging was lame in like 2000, get it together. you should try to look like young men instead of hoodlums (didnt yall see that man on lockup talking about saggy pants, HE LIKES BOOTY lol)
Andre3579 Sagging pants ought to be a felony. And for those saying it's racist, it's not. White kids sag too and look even worse than Black kids to me.
I'm 33 years old and have never sagged my pants. I go back as far as the tighty-whitey era and we didn't do it back then. Boxers are in now. That's cool, but they're still "UNDERWEAR" and should not be shown.
Sagging pants categorize you automatically as a low-life, uneducated thug, whether or not you belong there. White folks are no smarter than we, but they make the rules and know when to fix themselves up. Self-expression is cool, but we can't allow it to denigrate us as Black men.
Shout out to all my lovely Black sistas for holdin' it down.
I HATE [EXPLETIVE], But I LOOVVESSS me some REAL Black People!!!!!!!!!!
"Pull up your pants boy! Nobody wants to see that!" Teenagers across the county hear these words every day. Thanks to the "fashion" trend known as sagging. Parents hate it, teens do it, and small battles rage between them daily over the issue.
Sagging is wearing your pants below or around the buttocks. The underwear is then pulled up slightly so it can be seen. A belt may or may not be worn in order to keep the pants at a certain level. Most teenagers do it because it is comfortable or their friends or favorite music group is doing it, without knowing where it came from and the history behind it.
Some say that sagging got its start in prison as a way to signal to other inmates that they were "available" for a relationship. However, according to my research this is false.
While sagging did start in prison, it resulted from the fact that many of the clothes given to the inmates were too big. Belts weren't allowed because of the potential for suicide attempts when the inmates had them. The style was then adopted by some rap stars and the hip-hop industry, then migrated to other music genres and has since become fad for teens of all ethnicities. (Young rap duo Kris Kross are often credited with popularizing sagging. See photo above.)
So why do teens (mainly male) sag? Is it purely to spite their parents and other authority figures? Julian, 16, and Alex, 16, sag for different reasons.
"It's more comfortable than wearing them [the pants] high up around the waist," says Alex. "If you wear your pants high, you look nerdy," says Julian.
When asked what they thought girls thought about guys who sag and how it looks, they both say that they believe girls don't mind it, and may actually prefer it.
On the contrary. Heather, 16, says sagging looks unprofessional, dirty and unattractive, adding that she doesn't need to see any guy's boxers. Margaret, 17, agrees, calling it was gross and unattractive. She also says it's annoying to see a guy constantly pulling up his pants.
Parents seem to dislike this trend even more than these girls do. Alex says his parents constantly tell him to pull his pants up. My parents even threaten to punish me or take away luxury items. My mom is convinced that the only reason teens wear their pants that way is to anger their parents.
"I understand that this style is a fashion statement of a certain music genre (i.e. Hip-hop/Rap)," says William Hintz, principal at Menomonee Falls High School. "However, this style has no place in traditional places such as school and work. We are trying to make young people see that wearing clothes in this fashion is unnecessary. After high school, this style is unacceptable at every work place."
The issue has even landed in statehouses. In February 2005, the Virginia House of Delegates passed a bill that would impose a $50 fine on anyone wearing pants so low that underwear was visible. Louisiana lawmakers attempted to pass a similar law a year earlier. Both bills were rejected by their states' Senates.
Ultimately, sagging appears to be the semi-rebellious fashion statement of this generation's culture, much like teens having long hair or wearing mini-skirts in the '60s and '70s. Their parents didn't like it and didn't understand it, just like parents these days don't like or understand sagging.
@REAL100
I AGREE WITH YOU.....
----------------------------------------- As a black man it is embarrassing to see these ni88as with their pants below their butts and wearing over sized white tees. Why should we allow this to continue, we need to stand up for our people and make a positive change. There is nothing positive about a young black male with his pants off his waist. We are indulging our youth its ok to be a thug/gangster in truly we are allowing them to FAIL. Is there a future for a thug is there a pension or retirement plan. All it is monetary hood riches and theres no longevity but life of incarceration and early DEATH. Whos going to hire someone that cant wear his pants correctly? Then we say their being racist, and police is always picking on us change your appearance stop looking like a thug. Stop embracing this embarrassment only successful people that sag or rapper and there are in character. Rappers that are very successful charge their image to one of a businessman (JAZ-Z, Master P). Our kids need better role models DOCTERS, LAWYERS, CEOS, POLITICIANS, BUSINESS OWNERS, TEACHER. They need not to idolize Lil Wayne, Snoop Dogg, Plies, and Tyga. Give our kids a chance to succeed instill the value of an education. I know the Ghetto parent or should I say ghetto mothers will be pitching a b**ch when their child is charge with sagging but these same parent will not attend a teacher/parent conference about their childs education. Next we need to ban tattoos on your face, forearms and hands.
BLACK MEN STEP UP AND BE A FATHER AND DON'T ALLOW THE GOVERNMENT TO RAISE OWN KIDS THIS IS AN ATTEMPT TO SHOW US WE ARE NOT DOING OUR JOB AS FATHERS. TEACH OUR BOYS HOW TO BE PRODUCTIVE MEN.
Wake up! I dont want to be a ni88a for life
. Hood Raised South Central Los Angeles Now you KNOW!!!!!!!!
Making it a felony is a bit extreme, but personally I never did, nor understand why friends did it. It's kinda funny when some dudes I knew would complain about not being taken seriously, yet they go around showing their drawers everywhere. I had a neighbor who was in jail when this trend was still on the rise, and after he told me where it came from, and what it actually meant, I swore I'd never do it.
