: We hate to be the ones to put the fuel on any hip hop beefs. But MediaTakeOut.com is hearing that a pretty major beef is brewing between rapper Fat Joe and Jay Z.
Last night on DJ Kay Slay's top rated radio program, Slay dropped a freestyle with NY rapper Uncle Murdah and Jay Z. And in it, Jay Z takes some pretty serious shots at fellow NY rapper Fat Joe.
Here are the lyrics below:
Gangsta, Gangsta, how you wanna do this? I clap n—as down for yappin’ all foolish, ain’t no stopping this Roc-a-fella movement. The name is Jay Guevera, homie, who are you? and, if your off-beat DJ, anything he play sound familiar? I’ll wait ’til Pharell say, Play 'emJay ... you are a 40 year old multi-millionaire businessman. Why do you still have to rap about killing your rivals ....Now I’mma have to diss you, Joe. You can get a smack for that, matter fact, the gats will blow[GUNSHOT SOUND EFFECTS].your toy squad will get squashed, Boy–yard dee, you’re lost in the sauce partly because your boss ain’t a leader. He’s a follower. No, I’m not coppin’ ya album or your single, most likely you’ll go copper
The coke copper, the quick cake cooker, the Sadat X like Master P - bring the hook up.
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fat Joe has been getting at jay since right before the don cartagena album from what i last remember......all those subliminals but hey its just music....we all know bleek will do the shooting lol, but maybe it could do with Big L supposedly signing to Rcafella, while Big L was still with DITC (Diggin in the Crates)
Rap started in NY, the Bronx to be exact. ANYBODY that raps or TRIES to rap is copying NY dudes. Plain and simple this is a FACT. I hate corny ass people like SaintLewis who copy/love our style and then try to criticize it or say they do it better. LOL!! Thats like a dude from London saying bloods/crips out there are banging harder than a dude from LA, it's just IMPOSSIBLE!! If u not from NY don't EVER try to say u run rap or are in ANY WAY better than a NY rapper, just fall back and enjoy the style WE gave you. (or IM gonna have to make a diss track.......)
Come on ya'll! Real Hip-Hop heads know that battle rappin is at the foundation of this whole hip hop movement. Like Jay said, "It's only entertainment!" And to old? How does one become to old to go to work. Jay aint even 40! He trying to make sure his kid's kid's won't have to worry about anything! So I guess Al Pacino can't play a gangsta no more either? LOL Some of these post are funny to me! And BTW Jay don't need to do no over the top $hit like some of these other so called "Rappers" to sell his CDs! He is one of the greatest of all time and his $hit gon damn near go Platinum in the first week. Trust! So you youngins keep going to cope Soldier Boy, and I'm gon get the new Jay cause I know he gon bring it every time!
@ MZ_ME
Jay aint never had a fight? You must not know about him facing 15 years for giving it to Lance Rivera for bootlegging his music! Or him getting caught with the burner when the hooks pulled him over? Jay comes str8 from the streets. He was making money in the dope game before he even picked up a mic. His raps are really about his life. Take some time and listen to Reasonable Doubt, his first CD, or his soundtrack The Streets Are Watching. That's really his life he is talking about. Get yo knowledge game up b4 you start dissing. I aint hating on your opinion or nothing, but at least know what you talking about b4 you speak!
I CAN'T STAND FAT JOE.. BUT REAL TALK JAY NEEDS TO SIT THE PHUCK DOWN. CONGRATS ON THE MONEY. BUT PLEASE SIT DOWN NOW. 40 YEAR OLD AZZ WIPE CALLING HIMSELF THE DOPE BOY.. GET THE PHUCK OUTTA HEAR WHAT MESSAGE ARE YOU SENDING THE YOUTH. CALLING YOURSELF YOUNG.UM HELLO YOUR 40 SIT DOWN. KEEP YOUR PHUCKING MOUTH SHUT AND AT LEAST GIVE THE ALLUSION OF BEING GROWN AND RESPONSIBLE. AZZ WIPE. THANK YOU
who gives a phuck were HipHop came from Im from PA its about who trying to keep it real and none of these dudes certainly not hov. cmon he's a cornball one day hes wearing a suit smiling shaking some rich dudes hand and the next day hes wearing a white t wit his arms crossed trying to be a g he needs to grow the hell up and pick one. All these dudes are lames whether from the south or the east selling that fake ass image knowing they aint in the street they in offices,cubacles,and studios cmon yall wake up and Nas is way better than jay as far as real Hiphop negroes look whos moving forward musically wise hov still young ho,D boy and all that dumb little kid [EXPLETIVE] Nas making music that nobody can touch.
Jay needs to put the beef down. He's a mogul. It's like bullying someone you know you have already beaten many times over. You know you have the advantage, but why even go there. more importantly, where is the east coast. I'm from Atl, but you all have been sleep for way too long and I miss the diversity in hip-hop.
Here is the real on this..... Jay is so corn to me....
It was on the mixtape version of ether... supposedly fat joe told nas to take it out
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AHH: One thing that just came up today, Nas apparently has a response to Jay Z’s "The Takeover" on his upcoming album, which implicates you and Pun and includes the lyrics: "Call yourself gangsta but you were begging for pardon that night in Carbon when Terror Squad flipped on your squadron tried to front on their checks till Pun put a gun to your chest."
Fat Joe: We gotta hear it but damn, what a way to put me right in the middle of the beef huh? We don’t comment on that, that's old news. Like I said all the negative energy all that sh*t you can throw that out the window. Nas is crazy. No question that we are allies with Nas Escobar. We love Nas. I almost named my son after Nas. As far as him and Jay Z with the beef: that’s they stuff. Until somebody tries to involve me in that sh*t, that’s it. I ain’t got no problem with the whole Rocafella. It’s well documented. Everybody keeps trying to get me to talk about that sh*t in every interview. Why don’t they ask Jay Z that stuff? I read his interveiws, nobody asks him. If you interview him, ask him.
Back to Down4Weezy.....I'm from the Mid-West but I live in the South now goin to skool and I love it....JSU STAND UP!
Y do people from N.Y think they are the end all be all? It's ok 4 them to say ignorant shyt like "I've never been outside East New York".... If Sumbody from Mississippi said.."I never been past the Mississppi river", You would think they were retarded....
Have you even been to tha south? If not plez cut out yo HATIN A$$ comments...
Jay Z is so pseudo intellectual that it makes me head spin...I really wish he'd stick to keeping quiet...Spend some money..consult some lawyers...make some more... But please, leave the childesh gangster rap to the children..you're old enough to be these people's FATHER. SHAME, SHAME, SHAME! This is why you start strong and fall off the charts, Jay Z...you're all over the place...well, nevermind...you won't ever sell again because there's a high mortality rate for rappers and people are just looking for the new ones...you didn't die but you kinda did.
Jay is the man! The song is old and not really one of his best diss records he has done. I have supported him from when I first met him because he is a real dude! Fat Joe talks alot of b.s and I think he has lost his touch. Yall might disagree with me but Trinity ave still looks the same and he hasn't done anything important for his neighborhood. But Marcy Ave., hands down Jay has taken cared of. That's why I give him respect!
SCREAMIN LIKE EMINEM....DETROIT!!!! WHAT!!!! DETROIT!!!...LOL...RESPECT TO ALL THE CITYS THAT HAVE SUPPLLIED US WITH THEIR TALENT...BEEF HAS BEEN IN HIP HOP (NOT RAP) SINCE MOFOS WAS RAPPIN N PARKS WITH CREATES OF VINYL...AS LONG AS THEIR KEEP IT ON THE MIC...WHO GIVESS A EFF..ITS GOOD FOR HIP-HOP...MOFOS TAKIN DIS ISH TOO DAYUM SERIOIUSSSSSSSSSSSSS S...QUIT CLAIMIN YOUR CITY - AND CLAIM YOUR KIDSS..LOL
@ MISSHIPS
THANKS FOR LETTING THESE FOOLS AT MTO KNOW THIS IS MAD OLD! THEY ALWAYS TRYING TO START SOMETHING.
OFF TOPIC:
THE MCCAIN CAMP IS TURNING INTO A ANGRY MOB. NEWS STATIONS IS ALL OVER IT. THEY'RE LETTING THEIR CROWD YELL "KILL HIM" ETC WITHOUT TELLING THE CROWD NOT TO SAY THAT BUT INSTEAD CHEER IT ON. DID ANYONE SEE THAT GAY BLACK NEGRO PLEADING TO MCCAIN YESTERDAY TO GO AT OBAMA HARD????? SAYING "I'M BEGGING YOU, PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE GO AT HIM HARD" HAHAHAHA SAMBO NEGROS.
That freestyle was garbage. I like Jay but that shyt was straight up weak!
@Loveybrown Yall might disagree with me but Trinity ave still looks the same and he hasn't done anything important for his neighborhood. But Marcy Ave., hands down Jay has taken cared of. That's why I give him respect! ------------------------------------------- Those projects is still on the same level they were about 15 years ago. Shyt hasnt changed there. The neighborhood SURROUNDING the projects may have cleaned up but that has nothing to do with Jay Z and everything to do with gentrifcation, which happened in my neighborhood as well. Bad azz, ghetto neighborhoods in BK have been turned into hipster, artsy neighborhoods due to the fact that all these whites started flocking to BK out of Manhattan for cheaper rents around '99, but the neighborhoods have gotten just as expensive as Manhattan and as a result, there's more cops, more surveilance and the neighborhoods are cleaner. Jay has nothing to do with that.
JAYZ IS PURE TRASH AND WAY TO OLD FOR THIS MESS, FAKE WANNA BE GANGSTA...I'M JUST WAITING ON SOMEONE TO CALL THIS FAKE WANNA BE OUT. HE GONE GET TRIED TRUST, CAUSE HIS EGO IS TOO BIG, AND A FAKE GANGSTA...HE GONE CATCHUP TO SOME REAL N***AS SOON, AND THEY GONE TRY HIM..HOPE HE LIVES TO TELL THE TELL, WHILE HE'S THREATENING DEATH TO SOMEONE ON A TRACK. THIS CAMEL HAS NO CLASS, HE'S THE UGLIEST MOFO!
@ Prophecy-that's like saying basketball started in Africa so no one can play the sport but Africans lol! Get off it, ya'll time is up. And a rapper can be better than a New Yorker. Even Jay tried and can't bring NY back...and this is the longest in history ya'll been shut down lol it's going on what..4 or 5 yrs now the south been running it?? lol and i ain't even from there, but it's the truth.
See I didn't wanna do this, but from the comments on here, Brooklyn must come out and this must be done!
Now here this Southerners!
Hov's wackest freestyle > the entire southern population of hip hop right now. Always remember, hip hop was sonned in the South Bronx, and Brooklyn helped evolved it.
Your country coon rappers spit 'Shawty' and 'mayne' and 'ayeeee' and break down your words/names like Dem Franchize Boyz, Soulja Boi, Big Kuntry like you have no command of grammar, spelling, or syntax!
I cannot wait for the day when New York hip hop finally reclaims prominence, but unlike 99.9% of the south, most of our rappers actually have integrity and tell ACTUAL stories in their rhymes.
Hell on a good day, Foxy Brown and Lil Kim would son T.I. or Lil Wayne in a freestyle, hard body!
SMH. But southerners continue to listen to your T.Pain's and your Plies and your TI's...can't wait for Jay to drop Blueprint 3.
True @ Bklatina
There have been hella lot of snowbunnies poppin back into the city. I was on Fulton Street last week over there by VIMS and saw like a group of white ppl actually walking around! That whole area in the stuy is usually negro-fied.
Hell even Flatbush is changing with all these whities. They know they ain't stupid enough to try and take over Brownsville and East New York tho. Starett City niccas don't play dat lol.
I really dont think the south is running hip hop. I think the jews are running hip hop and the kids are just too dumb nowadays to figure out they're being used to dumb down an entire generation. I remember when hip hop was multi-faceted. You had your conscious rap, your party rap, your cool laid back rap, all in it together. Now, its just cocaine rap and coon rap gone commercial. Thats why I stick wit the underground, where worldwide hip hop, east, west, south and around the world are giving a message.
Look, maybe the south is repping for hip hop right now, but why is it that tru hip hop heads cannot fk with it? For every song thats out right now u got true hip hop heads saying that shyt that is done now is commercial or corny. Hip hop connisseurs listen to todays crap like its nails on a chalkboard.
And so if the south wants to claim hip hop now, then I say let em, cuz I for sure cant listen to 90% of it anymore. I keep my Ipod on the older, more substantail shyt.
I cant deal w/ T-Pains computer synthesized voice. He's got nothing on REAL singers either. And being that all you hear is certain people on the radio dont mean its the shyt or they're on the takeover either. Tpain is all over the air waves, but dont tell me that he's a better singer than say, Usher. So the fact that certain rappers are on constant airplay really doesnt state a case.
And its not an East Coast thing for me either cuz Dr Dre and Snoop had that flava when the Chronic came out. Had me LOVIN all those joints. Too Short repped for Oakland too. Ghetto Boys in the south.
Fact is hip hop is just in a sorry state, but alot does have to do with what BklynRouge stated. Alot of broken English and incoherent thoughts on records now and THATS not hip-hop!
I wasn't gonna post but some of you ignorant ass individuals make no sence. You NY people don't understand that the south don't hate on the north like ya'll hate on us because it's pointless. You all are just upset that we're eatin good while you all are starving. Times are changing and so is HIP HOP. Either you change with it or get left in the past, plain and simple.
To ALL you lil hip hop katz up here, do ya homework, ..this phucka " Fatback Joe",with his wack-ass needs to stop DICK-ridin other out-of-towners...he only in the game for tha doe...he eats lil-people ( midgets, new-borns, dwarfs, and who the phuk knows what else...you've been pitchin at JAY for a while, ...so he needs his ass handed to him, you aint nice...soundin all southern like you from there..PLEASE fat-boy,an to all you HATERZ, DAMN!!!Yall love to hate..JAY.. is the nices...name ( 1 ) rapper who is, and has done what the boy JAY done...yall said, at one point, that denjy jones was better...WOW!!! I could'nt wait to join this ish....Yall gotta deal with it, if not, ....go some where and pick your noses, count how many noogies is up there, cause yall smellin like hot-ish ...talkin ish...JAY everyday...An NO stupid-assess, aint noo dick-ridin here,justa fan...
Gotta tip my hat on your comment Exclusive...Your the only one, up here, makin any since... I cant believe you got some katz thats quick to comment on something, without doing their homework..I bet, in their school-days, their report-cards had F's all over it..lol. Just goes to show you, who acually did their classwork...an who stayed-back...BUNCH OF DUMMIES.....lol YEAH, IM HERE NOW!
let me school all u pussyholes rap is a commercial type of dancehall check an see if most of your rap pioneer where they came from which is the ceribbean espeacially jamaica so learn that frist and secondly j is no bad man u can sell dope and be a punk the thung about him he has leadership skills u the real bad man respect him so they will do the work for him like bleek why u think bleek is living so goo d he save j lives many times and most likely killed for j but the point is u people put this punk and his bitch ahead of yourself OH J IS THIS AND B IS THAT PHUCK BOTH OF THEY DONT LOVE THEIR FANS WHEN THE LAST TIME U SEE ANY OF THEM TOUCH A FAN WITHOUT IT BEEN A PUBLICTY STUNT PUT YOURSELF FIRST THEY PISSS AND [EXPLETIVE] LIKE US TOO I DONT THINK THEY PHUCK PERSONALLY B THINK THAT [EXPLETIVE] IS TOO PRETTY TO GET TOUCH SO SHE HAS A BLOW UP DOLL FOR J
LET ME GET IT IN REAL QUICK 2 THE DOUCHBAGS ON MY TAIL!!! NOW I DID SAY THAT THEY ARE ONLY ABOUT 5 RAPPERS FROM THE SOUTH THAT HAVE ANY RELEVANCE *WEZZY BEING THE #1 OF COURSE* ALL THAT OTHER SH!T YA'LL POP IZ SR8 UP TRASH!!!! THAT CUNTRY SWAGG IS CORNY & SLOPPY LIKE U MISS TRACEYLEE & FURIOUSSTYLZ (i kno u aint briging cali in this PAC (may he rest in peace) was all ya'll had & ever will have with xcption 2 GAME) SO U SIT UR 2 UGLY 4 PIC AZZ DOWN SUMWHERE!! YES I LUVVZ WEEZY F. BABY!!!! CUZ HE GOT THAT ILL SWAGG LIKE A NEW YORKER HE USED 2 LIVE OUT HERE 4 A HOTT MIN THATZ HOW HE GETZ THAT UNIVERSAL APPEAL CUZ HE HAS TRAVELED!!!..UNLIKE THE BUMKINS OUT THERE MAKING THAT 'SHAaawwWTY' SH!T!!! NO1 ON THE CNR HAS SWAGGA LIKE US!!!!! PERIOD!! BIG UP 2 THE WHOLE DIPSET/DBLOCK/ROCAFELLA/FAB/MURDAINC/WUTANG & REST IN PEACE 2 B.I.G!!!..WE THE FKN BESSSSTT!!! ....FCK YA'LL!!!!..... *SIDENOTE*..'TRACEYLEE' & ;NAPPY HEADED HO' YA'LL NEED 2 SWITCH BCK OVA CUZ SHE THE DUDE & HE'S THE B!TCH!!!! ..CHICKZ I CAN AFFORD 2 POP SH!T CUZ UR N!@@AZ B ON MY D!K!!
Lma[SPAM]ooooooo (pause) [SPAM][SPAM][SPAM]ooooooo @ LIL KIM or FOXY will kill ti or wayne in a battle lma[SPAM]ooooooo YEA [EXPLETIVE] RIGHT!! Maybe if u tape they mouth up! I was agreeing with you about the story tellin raps and the lack of in some raps but that battle comment was just too far. U got too comfortable for that one. And yea we country so what. Yall from ny so what. Who gives a [EXPLETIVE]. I love jz and im from the south. I love lil wayne too. Dont matter whats goin on in rap right now, i wanna know who u votin for!? Haha
YO DOWN 4 WEEZY --- SORRY BUT'CHA LIVIN IN DA PAST -- U MITE AS WELL HAVE MENTIONED DA SUGARHILL GANG 2 -- CUZ HALF DA CREWZ U MENTION DONT EXSIST ANYMORE... ALL DEM MUTHAPHUKKAZ FELL OFF...SO NATURALLY U JUMP ON DA NEXT NICCAZ NUTZ.. U CRAB AZZ BEEZIE.. I AINT NEVER HEARD WAYNE REP DAT EAST COAST SHYT, ON DA OTHER HAND NICCAZ OUT HERE IN CALI STAY CONSISTENTLY DROPPIN SHYT.. WE AINT NEVER DEPEND ON EAST COAST CATZ 2 EAT --- WE EATIN OUT HERE --- U WACK AZZ MUTHAPHUKKAZ IZ STARVIN 4 ATTENTION CUZ OUTSIDE OF NY --- AINT NOBODY TRYIN 2 HEAR DAT GARBAGE -- JAY z IZ DA EXCEPTION THOUGH..... HOE OR DIE --- NORTH OAKLAND BBBBIIIIAAAATTCCHHHH!!!!!
you ignorant muthufukkas need to shut the fukk up yall took saintlewis comments way out of context like some goofy azz reporter or something. he was saying nyers should come together he did not say the south took hip hop from ny and ms weezybaby orw/e your name is you dissing the south but all on lil wayne nut sack and he FROM the south ALL BLACK people have ties to the south you ignoramus dufus no buisness born muthufukkas i hate when people who call themselves BLACK have the nerve to diss the south. with that stupid azz pig feet in a jar comment nyers ALWAYS got to put their spin on some sheit how many times you going to say hip hop started in the bronx? we KNOW that sheit. mofos MUSIC in general started in AFRICA so as a BLACK man i can listen/practice whatever music i fugggin want to i am a martial artist karate& muay thai so because i'm not asian i can't practice/study it huh? that sheit is stupid as hell love to my REAL nukkas from ny with open minds but why the fugg yall got bloods and crips in ny? those re l.a. gangs nothing to say about that sheit i bet. chicago and l.a. are the gang banging capitals organized modern gang banging started in chicago do the fuggin history no time to explain to you muthufukkas but that don't mean the rest of the world not/can't do it? fugg outta here closed minded ignorant fukkas!!! CHI-TOWN& ALL MIDWEST STAND UP!! p.s. fukk any muthufugga with a diss towards me!
