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...AND ONCE AGAIN, SMH @ THE FEMALES WIT THE HATE COMMENTS ON THE LATIN CHICKS.
-------------------------------------------------- Yea, but let's not pick and choose who's hating because on other boards, both male and female posters have said the exact same stuff if not worse about Serena Williams and other dark-skninned or "regular" black females. But I guess it's not termed "hating" since Serena a darkie and all, right? No one could EVER be jealous of her. **sarcasm**
Aside from that, it's not like it's an overwhelming sense of hatred so far. The opinions are mixed and people are gonna have their opinions about peoples' looks, etc. NO MATTER WHAT. Just because they're Latina or non-black doesn't mean folks are jealous haters.
As for me, I have no issues what so ever with saying a girl is pretty, no matter what color they are, but IMO, their faces do look kinda weird. JMHO.
@tjtrae1: Thanks! I will! LOL!
I'm not a hater because I'm secure and confident in my own womanhood but these chickas are BUSTED. The one on the left looks like a Collie (Lassie breed of dog) and the one on the right reminds me of a rotweiller. I'm sorry people lol but they are sooo not attractive. In addition to this I'm sick of women disrespecting themselves in the media.
It's no wonder there are increases in DL population. Men probably sick of seeing these "women" popping their coochies and showing their funky behinds in every magazine spread. It's called having respect. Where are these "women's" sense of PRide, DIGNITY, MODESTY, and DECENCY. Sometimes I wish I feel as if I'm in a Matrix. I get so tired of seeing women OBJECTIFY themselves all over the media (magazines, music videos, tv, movies, etc). it's becoming redundant and PLAYED OUT.
I can't believe we've fought for women's rights just to go backwards and have ourselves disrespected all over again. Anyway I'm done. Just had to vent for a minute lol.
Latinas are the new "IT" girls, after Selma Hayek breastfeedin the african Child,she made me love Latina chicks more than ever -------------------------------------------------- "New 'it' girls" Whoa! I think your about a decade too late. Latina love has been prominent in videos (etc.) since like 1996. Where you been? LOL! Or is this just an attempt to try to get a rise out of the black females as a lot of the black men on MTO love to do? Probably the latter.
""New 'it' girls" Whoa! I think your about a decade too late. Latina love has been prominent in videos (etc.) since like 1996. Where you been? LOL! Or is this just an attempt to try to get a rise out of the black females as a lot of the black men on MTO love to do? Probably the latter."
I'm sure it's the latter too.. Amazing how these house coons love to try to piss a black woman off.. WTF is wrong with black men??
Ya'll are turning into [SPAM] with all this race baiting to create controversy..when you hate on someone else because of creed or color it only makes you look ignorant and lacking plenty of things that make us human beings. My president is black..i'm half latino and half italian and i'm proud to be a brother, uncle, or friend to anyone from anyone from any walk of life.
The revolution was not televised it happened in our integration as a society.
"Ya'll are turning into [SPAM] with all this race baiting to create controversy..when you hate on someone else because of creed or color it only makes you look ignorant and lacking plenty of things that make us human beings."
WHy is it ok to call a black woman ugly as many people did in the Serena Williams post yesterday but the mjinute you call a woman of another race ugly - and these two are just that, UGLY - then you have to bee hatin?!?!
Get the hell on with that bullshyt.. The chick are ugly.. It has nothing to do with their race...
@sexyBrownSuga- I feel you. Negroes call Serena and Michelle Obama ugly all day long yet praise these nasty video "vixens" that do nothing but spread their funky legs and pop their coochies. It's getting mad old and trifling.
All that glitters isn't gold. They laughing at CLEAN women (Michelle and Serena I'm sure are STD free) yet praise Dolicia Bryant and these other video skanks (as pictured above) who probably got more than one STD going on. It's sad
@queen_pin- It's not Akon's fault. I'm tired of these men (regardless of color) OBJECTIFYING women (regardless of color). It's getting old and played out.
@Ureallywanttoknow- Who cares if they are latinas? THEY BOTH BUSTED. One looks like a Collie the other a Rottweiler. They also look stanking as all get out. If I ever have DAUGHTERS there is no way in the world I would be proud of her POPPING her smelling BOOTY and coochie in these magazines as if she's a piece of flesh. What ever happened to decency and respecting yourself? Trifling.
No hate just keeping it real.
SexyBrownSuggaSista, please. From what i've seen, you're a scratched record who's dedicated to spouting nonsense about black men. Get over yourself. Calling me boy? You're the one acting like an infant, moaning and crying over what exactly? Now you run along little girl. Come and holla at me when you've finished puberty.
SexyBrownSuggaSista, shut up. Seriously. God damn. It isn't that serious. -------------------------------------------------- Yea, it's never "that serious" when someone is speaking the truth is it. It's really funny how patterns start to show. Right when someone is hitting the nail on the head then it's all "I'm just playin'!"
You know if that was a black woman with two white or non-black guys the exact same sh!t would be said from a lot of the black men. You can't deny it, the proof is in the archives, etc.
A lot of black men (not all) wanna get all "free love" on everyone up unitl the point to when BW start doing what they do and then a TON of lame excuses come out of the woodwork. Do people really not notice this pattern? SMH.
"@sexybrown sga if that is ur picture, then u are ugly too with alot of weave.. u stupid b*tch!!why are u so ignorant cause latina girls look way better than ya'll black b*tches!!!'
ANGRY BLACK MAN ALERT!!! I can just see you dancing a minstrel show jig - looking like a Golliwog - as you type this crap!!
Run your house coon ass back to the plantation and go serve Massa you damn dumb ape!!!
samid77, is there ignorance when it comes to interracial dating? Of course. Is there a double standard when it comes to black women dating interracially? Absolutely. But will making stupid asinine insults towards black men because of this actually resolve anything or inspire an intelligent debate? No, and that's my point. Ignorance begets more ignorance. And juvenile insults does nothing but add fuel to the fire.
"SexyBrownSuggaSista, please. From what i've seen, you're a scratched record who's dedicated to spouting nonsense about black men. Get over yourself. Calling me boy? You're the one acting like an infant, moaning and crying over what exactly? Now you run along little girl. Come and holla at me when you've finished puberty."
Are you all through, boy?!?! Run along now...
"@citababy813 saying latinas=yuck, biotch plz don't hate cuz you ain't latin. I know we the best but I guess everybody can't be blessed LMAO!!! Stop hating cuz ur black men LOVE latin women, it's aight though maybe GOD will make you latin in your next life time LMAO!!!!!!!!"
Run along bytch!! Noone is thinking about your crusty wet ass.. These bytches are ugly, end of story.. If it were a sista it wold be ok to call her ugly.. Ya'll would even be in here supporting it.. So get over it. There are ugly bytches of all nationalities, Latina too...
This thread alone made me create an account to this site...OKAY....ummmmm seriously tho...who really cares about what this so called "Black Men Mag" does? They have been posting white women/biracial since this mag been created! This should not be new to anyone! That is why I no longer buy any black magazine because they never put sistas on the oovers...black men is going down rite along with VIBe!! and it will not be missed! PLUS Akon SUCKS!!!!!!!!! hE cant sing worth a DAMN but he makes millions I swear people dont know true talent anymore...I cant stand it!...IM DONE!
THIS IS BULLSH1T...they are not black im tired of this sh1t they need to change the damn name on the cover... unfortunately ladies... black men have no respect for themselves this is why they cant respect and appreciate us... its not our fault ladies ... dont take it personal...they just some ignorant ass bastards... @Brownsugar...girl u know dats right... aint NO WAY IN HELL... no black man would be on a LATINA magazine cover... lol @ the thought. btw aint no hate here aint no b1tch on EARTH [EXPLETIVE] w me.. i just want to make this clear... also aint no n1gga EVER left me for a spaniard.. and i live in the bronx.. so they have a choice...black men just need to learn some damn respect and pride in their race.
Some of you all are just so ignorant, most latina's are of AFRICAN, INDIAN, SPANISH decent. Please read, read, read your history about where those damn slave ship went!!!! You all are killing me! You act as though your blood is 100 percent African. Stop going by what you heard and go by what you've read.
"Has a somebody told black women to "step up their game" in here yet???? LMAO!!!!! If not... I'm sincerely SHOCKED outta my kotex that it hasn't been said yet, LOL!!
HEEEYYYY SexyBrownSuggaSista!!! What's up girl! :-)"
What's good, ma??
And give it time.. Someone is BOUND to come in here and tell us to step up our game...
You know what I am sick and tired of people calling other people Latino. Latino is NOT A RACE! If take a DNA test it will never say this person is Latino. Latinos come in all different races including a mix of races making someone either Mestizo or Mulatto. These girls are Mulattos. Like myself. My grandmother who was born and raised in a country in Central America is Caucasian, My grandfather also from the same country is Black, which makes my Mother a Mulatta. My Father comes from the same Country and both his parents are Black. I myself resemble the girls pictured above but I consider myself Black with a Latino heritage. On top of that there are Chinese people that live in the Lower Americas, D.R, and other Caribbean countries but you never hear anyone call them Latino!
"And give it time.. Someone is BOUND to come in here and tell us to step up our game..."
What this young lady here is suffering from is psychological projection. This is a defence mechanism in which she is clearly blaming her own failure of not finding a good black man on other black men, by refering to them as sell outs, coons and apes. Hence the reason she anticipates her own race of sisters to be insulted by a black man as a way to defend herself from such verbal abuse. Sadly, what she cannot see is that she is clearly feeding fuel to the fire and by making such foolish comments she'll only exacerbate the issue.
"@handsome dude, i knw that chic she is also on [SPAM] and she is a racist black b*tch!! don't pay her no mind!!!"
RACIST??? Why is it that everytime someone calls the black man exactly what he acts as they become racist?!?! You'd be suprised how many black men LOVE to coon themselves out and if you're acting like a coon, Imma call you a coon!!
HandsomeStallion, I agree and it's so sad that now we have literature at our fingertip and I'll be damn if people still aren't using it to their advantage. If they were brazilian women they would say the same ignorant statement even though the endured the same crap in their history as we did. Black comes in many different shades people be careful who you judge.
{ROLLING MY EYES}UMM THE ONE ON THE RIGHT IS UGLY...
queen_pin- I AGREE WIT YOU... IVE ALWAYS LOVED BLACK MEN BUT NOW WITH THE CHANGE OF THE WORLD{WHICH IS PROBABLY 10 YEARS FROM ARMAGEDDON HA WONDER WHY..} A LOT OF BLACK MEN ARE WANTING AND LIKING TO DATE OUTSIDE OF "THEIR RACE"(NOW BEFORE ANYONE JUMPS AT ME...I DO NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WIT THAT...MY FAM IS ALL MIXED UP) BUT I TOLD MY MAN THAT IF WE BREAK UP I WILL TRY TO DATE A MAN OF A DIFFERENT RACE AND GIVE THEM A TRY...
SexyBrownSuggaSista- YOU ARE A PRETTY FEMALE DONT WORRY ABOUT OTHERZ WHO CANT SEE WAH REAL BEAUTY IS ANY MORE....
AND BEFORE I TYPE IN THIS DAMMMM CODE AND SUBMIT ~~MY OPINIONS~~ I DONT THINK BLACK WOMEN HAVE A PROBLEM WITH LATINA "TAKING OUR MEN" 1ST OFF THEY'RE NOT "OURZ" ITS JUS THE ARROGANCE THAT LATINA *THINK* THEY ARE BETTER.... IF THAT WAS THE CASE...HMMM "YOUR MEN" WOULDNT BE WANTING A BLACK WOMAN...JUS REMEMBER THAT!
"And I feel sorry for your mama creating a little bytch ass like you who likes to sit around arguing with women..."
For one, you are not a woman. You don't conduct yourself as a woman when you type and post such infantile garbage. If you were woman, you wouldn't have to use profanity and playground insults to get your point across. Just tell us who hurt you so bad that you have this personal vendetta against all black men? It's ok. Don't be afraid.
"What this young lady here is suffering from is psychological projection. This is a defence mechanism in which she is clearly blaming her own failure of not finding a good black man on other black men, by refering to them as sell outs, coons and apes. Hence the reason she anticipates her own race of sisters to be insulted by a black man as a way to defend herself from such verbal abuse. Sadly, what she cannot see is that she is clearly feeding fuel to the fire and by making such foolish comments she'll only exacerbate the issue."
Exacerbate the issue like the black man does up in here?? The black man sits up in here all damn day bashing the black woman.. I wonder if your bytch ass is a vocal then as you are now...
And, boy, everything is not about wanting a blak man.. Now i know he has convinced himself that everything moving wants him or to be him - but that's a bunch of bullshyt.. Not everyone is checking for the black man..
Run along now, Sambo..
"For one, you are not a woman. You don't conduct yourself as a woman when you type and post such infantile garbage. If you were woman, you wouldn't have to use profanity and playground insults to get your point across. Just tell us who hurt you so bad that you have this personal vendetta against all black men? It's ok. Don't be afraid."
I have no issues with good black men.. I just can't stand little bytch ass House Sambos like the ones that seem to frequent this blog..
Kinda like YOU, boy...
obouie, I concur with what you're saying... but in defence of the others on here, I do see where they're coming from. There's alot of fault from within the black community but it's not about blame. I see alot of black men disrespect black women and vice versa, however, I don't see how calling them "coons" or "sellouts" is actually going to improve the situation.
"go ahead Akon with you bad self. Beside, for a black man to symbolically have made it he MUST have a white or latina woman otherwise its un official."
This is the very Sambo house coon bullshyt I'm talking about.. This is the very reason why there is no shame in my game when it comes to calling the black man out.. Now tell me this statement here isn't some coon ass crap to say?!?!
Now lets see what HandsomeStallion has to say to this ignorant monkey...
"Exacerbate the issue like the black man does up in here?? The black man sits up in here all damn day bashing the black woman.. I wonder if your bytch ass is a vocal then as you are now...
And, boy, everything is not about wanting a blak man.. Now i know he has convinced himself that everything moving wants him or to be him - but that's a bunch of bullshyt.. Not everyone is checking for the black man..
Run along now, Sambo.."
Please show me a post where I have bashed black women? I actually do think you're a very beautiful young lady but sadly your attitude and personality doesn't correlate with your looks. Clearly, someone has hurt you in the past of you've felt the pain from seeing many black men date outside of their race that you've decided to vent your fustration through here. How is calling me a sambo helping? You're just making yourself look more idiotic.
"I have no issues with good black men.. I just can't stand little bytch ass House Sambos like the ones that seem to frequent this blog..
Kinda like YOU, boy..."
How am I sambo? Please back up your slanderous claims with some concrete evidence.
So what? LMAO at the white shoes though, that it right up thier alley Latino women are some cheap shoe wearing Skanks who start wearing Makeup when they turn 13 years old. That's why they all look so hard by the time they turn 25 and besides akon is a clown so next..................... I gurantee you this thats about as far as they will get for sure.
"Now lets see what HandsomeStallion has to say to this ignorant monkey..."
You're foolish enough to rise to the bait and feed such ignorance. Can you not see this person is clearly trying to provoke a reaction out of you and like a moth to a bright light you jump at the opportunity to insult him? As I said before, ignorance begets more ignorance.
"Well........He is a rich black man, thats what he is supposed to do. Successful black men don't want no nappy head coon. They can where all the weave they want, they will never be as pretty as a latina or white woman. Even if they are some what pretty, their ghetto personality kills it ha ha ha."
What an ignorant n!gger.. Yeah - I'm pulling out the n-word for your monkey ass.. You are one ignorant ass n!gger who the best part of ran down his mama's legs during birth.. Your mama should have thrown out the baby and raised the afterbirth...
If ever a house coon deserved to be shot to death by a white cop - it's your ignorant n!gger ass...
@Stallion. You're right, you cant win with these women. regardless they are gonna talk shyt no matter what u do. Thats why I dont pay these dizzy broads on here no mind, cuz they hate black dudes and there is nothing you can say. It's just an excuse to them. They dont like us regardless and we are second best to white guys in their eyes. Thats their preference, but they feel the need to bash the brothers. They are no better than the brothers who bash the sisters to justify them being with white girls.
Everyone taunts ignorance within their culture, its not just a black thing and everyone disrespect women in their culture (Asian, Mid_East, Latina America and so on) and it's not a good thing. If this isn't true none of us would be on this website because some of the titles alone here on MTO are disrespectful. I don't get offended when people say coons" or "sellouts" because to me it doesn't apply I laugh because those are those are the first people to run in any altercation trust me.
"You're foolish enough to rise to the bait and feed such ignorance. Can you not see this person is clearly trying to provoke a reaction out of you and like a moth to a bright light you jump at the opportunity to insult him? As I said before, ignorance begets more ignorance."
Oh don't give me this bullshyt right here, boy!! LOL - at the old just ignore the man behind the curtain while responding to my every post.. This is the means by which the black man says nothing as long as the black woman is being bashed but she better not dare say anything about him or it will become and issue.. If he can be ignored as someone just trying to get a rise then why can't I?? Why have you don't nothing but respond to me?!?
BTW: Actions like that only fuel my fire.. Don't be a fukking hypocrit.. Don't respond to my statements while ignoring the very things I am responding to..
Run along now.. You've lost the chance at any decency I would ever have shown you with the hypocritical shyt you just did right here...
P.S. The one on the right>>>> is SUPER WACK she looks like a dog of some sort in the jaw area. She can't stand next to a polish sister trust me it would be no competition. I ignore latin women they are not worth looking at because they bring nothing to the table at all. and as soon as they open thier mouths, I get a headace. LMAO - all they can say is black women wear weaves (YAWN) and so do white, and hispanic. when ever thier are black and white women in the room guess who gets drowned out ??? yep, ^^^^^^ those hoes.
samid77: "... A lot of black men (not all) wanna get all "free love" on everyone up unitl the point to when BW start doing what they do and then a TON of lame excuses come out of the woodwork. Do people really not notice this pattern? SMH."
lol I'm happy someone pointed this out! It's the "we can do it, but you cannot" mentality. We are not Black men's properties. However, in a patriarchal society, that's how most men regardless of race view women. A lot of Black men who date interracially hold the belief that they're 'the most sought after male race.' Yet, when they see a Black women with a White man it's ONLY because he's using her for sex. lol Well, the same could be said about the non-Black women who love to date Black men, could it not? I mean after all, King Kong wasn't really about a giant gorilla.
MOJO100point3fm: "wow!! lot of black women hatin'! Halle Berry can have a white BF, black women cheer. Akon just posing with latina models all of sudden he's lame! JUST STUPID!!"
Halle Berry is HALF WHITE... wtf do you expect her to do? Pretend that she's Black and deny HALF of herself? WTF? She's dated and married several Black men before. How is that even comparable to self-hating n!ggas or SOME Black men who glorify & cherish that which is NOT like them?
"Halle Berry is HALF WHITE... wtf do you expect her to do? Pretend that she's Black and deny HALF of herself? WTF? She's dated and married several Black men before. How is that even comparable to self-hating n!ggas or SOME Black men who glorify & cherish that which is NOT like them?"
AMEN!!! Ever notice how the black man is the only group of men on this planet who seem to have this issue of glorifying every woman but their own?!?! WTF is wrong with the black man?!?! I bet people of other races laugh at him...
"Oh don't give me this bullshyt right here, boy!! LOL - at the old just ignore the man behind the curtain while responding to my every post.. This is the means by which the black man says nothing as long as the black woman is being bashed but she better not dare say anything about him or it will become and issue.. If he can be ignored as someone just trying to get a rise then why can't I?? Why have you don't nothing but respond to me?!?"
If you had any sense, you would see that those who make those childish comments about black women are obviously mask. Even though you do act foolish at times, I can see that you're clearly hurt for whatever reason that may be. I never said you should be silent. Once again, if you care to read what I said, I posted that everyone is entitled to their opinions, but to fight ignorance with more ignorance is stupid. I'm actually trying to have a decent debate with you but you constantly want to use childish insults.
"BTW: Actions like that only fuel my fire.. Don't be a fukking hypocrit.. Don't respond to my statements while ignoring the very things I am responding to.." How am I ignoring them? Did you read post? When did I exempt those who insult black women from my post? I said it goes both ways. There are those that are clearly posting to stir up trouble and there are those such as yourself who are expressing their honest opinions because they've been genuinely hurt.
"Run along now.. You've lost the chance at any decency I would ever have shown you with the hypocritical shyt you just did right here..."
Please. You cannot patronize me when you're the one acting puerile. Am I not a hypocrit. Some comments merit a reply while others don't. If you cannot not make that distiction and go around insulting every post you don't agree with, you're fighting a losing battle.
@SexyBrown-
Your a coward. Your getting your rocks off on the internet spewing your hate at blacks. LMAO- the funny thing is that your nasty pale skin having funky breath ass could and would never say that to a black persons face. Or N***er face as you put it. because your ass would be underneath somebody boot male or female So get your rocks off. Its funny. Coon. (Yawn) we heard it all from you pale ass Krackers and guess what, we are still shining light and bright bringing new ideas to the forefront that you Devils are trying to steal. So if you think shooting all of these hate post are hurting us, your wrong because we all ready know how everybody feels about us but, all it does is make our swagger, and style more spectacular. PUNK. yeah were coons.LMAO but, your a White devil that is also hated by most because of your sneaky, trifling,devilish ways.
"Your a coward. Your getting your rocks off on the internet spewing your hate at blacks. LMAO- the funny thing is that your nasty pale skin having funky breath ass could and would never say that to a black persons face. Or N***er face as you put it. because your ass would be underneath somebody boot male or female So get your rocks off. Its funny. Coon. (Yawn) we heard it all from you pale ass Krackers and guess what, we are still shining light and bright bringing new ideas to the forefront that you Devils are trying to steal. So if you think shooting all of these hate post are hurting us, your wrong because we all ready know how everybody feels about us but, all it does is make our swagger, and style more spectacular. PUNK. yeah were coons.LMAO but, your a White devil that is also hated by most because of your sneaky, trifling,devilish ways."
Bytch shut the hell up!! You sound like a fukking idiot.. How am I gonna be white on here defending black women all the time.. The ignorant coons know who they are and that my posts are directed to them.. I am not in here bashing all black people ass day.. Shut your fukking ignorant uneducated ass up you stupid bytch!! Stupid bytches like you make be sometimes see what the black mans issue is.. Run along you dumb ho..
"If you had any sense, you would see that those who make those childish comments about black women are obviously mask. Even though you do act foolish at times, I can see that you're clearly hurt for whatever reason that may be. I never said you should be silent. Once again, if you care to read what I said, I posted that everyone is entitled to their opinions, but to fight ignorance with more ignorance is stupid. I'm actually trying to have a decent debate with you but you constantly want to use childish insults."
LOL - I'm hurt so you wanna talk to me, but the poster calling sista's balck bytches is just fine and should be ignored.. Boy - get the fukk on...
Run along with that hurt bullshyt.. I can't stand ignorant coon black men and I will always call them out.. If you don't like it, kick rocks.. Run along with that hurt bullshyt.. I, as with many other black people, cannot stand that house n!gger crap..
As I said - you showed your true colors when you lacked the balls to speak up on that ignorant coon shyt posted further up yet yoour balls grew two sizes when it came to "debating" me.. You are a coward ass weak ass Sambo and I'm done with you.. Regardless of how you seek to "debate" me you will NEVER change the way I post - so run along...
I don't understand why women are here judging other pretty womens look. Shouldn't you ladies be drooling on the nelly or ll thread or something? The jealousy is extremely unbecoming, plus ya'll hate black men anyway, so why do you care all the sudden? You want to call bm bums, then diss the ladies to build your confidence. Unless ya'll women are bi, get lost!! You made your opinion, now bounce!!
"LOL - I'm hurt so you wanna talk to me, but the poster calling sista's balck bytches is just fine and should be ignored.. Boy - get the fukk on..."
Really, you just keep on digging yourself a deeper hole. Try acting your age and not your shoe size.
"Run along with that hurt bullshyt.. I can't stand ignorant coon black men and I will always call them out.. If you don't like it, kick rocks.. Run along with that hurt bullshyt.. I, as with many other black people, cannot stand that house n!gger crap.."
And you're giving them exactly what you want by spouting off insults. But you'll gladly take the bait huh.
"As I said - you showed your true colors when you lacked the balls to speak up on that ignorant coon shyt posted further up yet yoour balls grew two sizes when it came to "debating" me.. You are a coward ass weak ass Sambo and I'm done with you.. Regardless of how you seek to "debate" me you will NEVER change the way I post - so run along..."
Lacked the balls? As I stated before, it's not about balls, it's about knowing which comments actually merit attention. You obviously can't see the wood for the trees and debate with those clowns who are clearly trying to get a rise out of you. I'm so weak huh? Where have I bashed black women? I'm only bashing your very ugly personality which becomes more evident with every post you make. I'm not trying to change the way you post, I'm clearly pointing out how it is futile.
honesta99: "You know what I am sick and tired of people calling other people Latino. Latino is NOT A RACE! If take a DNA test it will never say this person is Latino. Latinos come in all different races including a mix of races making someone either Mestizo or Mulatto. These girls are Mulattos. Like myself. My grandmother who was born and raised in a country in Central America is Caucasian, My grandfather also from the same country is Black, which makes my Mother a Mulatta. My Father comes from the same Country and both his parents are Black. I myself resemble the girls pictured above but I consider myself Black with a Latino heritage. On top of that there are Chinese people that live in the Lower Americas, D.R, and other Caribbean countries but you never hear anyone call them Latino!"
THANK YOU! That is why the girl on the left looks like your average "light-skinned Black female"... because that's what she is! She just isn't AMERICAN. Latino just means someone from Latin America; Hispanic means someone from a Spanish-speaking region.
Latino/Hispanic is NOT one homogeneous race of people. And labeling them as such benefits WHITE LATINOS because they can use the label "Latino/Hispanic" to benefit from government programs & policies to help minorities while Black Latinos remain in poverty.
"I don't understand why women are here judging other pretty womens look. Shouldn't you ladies be drooling on the nelly or ll thread or something? The jealousy is extremely unbecoming, plus ya'll hate black men anyway, so why do you care all the sudden? You want to call bm bums, then diss the ladies to build your confidence. Unless ya'll women are bi, get lost!! You made your opinion, now bounce!!"
The coons are in full effect today, huh?!?! Just more of that house coon behavior that sets sistas like me off.. Here goes another golliwog on that save a non black ho crap..
I have a better idea - why don't you bounce your sorry little monkey ass up outta here.. Who the hell are you to tell someone else to leave.. Take your sorry black ass back where you were...
But I guess house coons like HandsomeStallion will over look this too because it was only said to get a rise... But he expects me to sit here and explain why I say what I say to him.. LOL!!!
"lifegroove: "Finally they used Latina women to be sluts for the cover instead of using and shaming our Black women to be the sluts on the cover."
Now this is rational thinking. King, Black Men... who really gives a damn about being a glorified hood-rat model?"
I agree - but apparently it is a big thing to the black man.. The hoodier and non black the rat is the more the black man is in love..
HAHAHA SOME OF YOU NIGGGAS ON HERE ARE STUPID AS HELL. YALL CANT SEE THAT THIS SCHIT ON HERE IS FAKER THAN THE WWE? WHY THE HELL YOU ARGUING WITH PEOPLE WHO *OBVIOUS* AINT REAL?
NORMAL, REGULAR BLACK PEOPLE DONT COME OUT THEIR MOUTH TALKING CRAZY NONSENSE ABOUT A WHOLE GROUP OF BLACK PEOPLE. YOU CAN TELL BY HOW EXTREME SOME COMMENTS IS THAT SOME OF THESE POSTERS AINT NOTHING BUT PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR THIS SCHITTY WEBSITE SAYING CRAZY SCHIT JUST TO STIR UP THIS BULLSCHIT TOPIC.
NOBODY REALLY GIVE A FUUUCK ABOUT AKON OR WHO HE WITH ON A MAGAZINE AND THAT AFRICAN NIGGGA WHO RUN THIS SITE KNOW THAT. SO HE GET HIS PEOPLE TO COME ON HERE AND SAYING DUMB SCHIT THAT 90% OF BLACK PEOPLE WOULDNT SAY OR THINK. THIS SITE IS LAME AS HELL AND YOU FOOLS ARGUING AND TAKING THE BAIT ARE LAME TOO.
@ the Black men who are stating that Black women don't want them anyway or that Black women love White men more...
I ask you this then, why out of all races of women are Black women the least likely to date outside of their race resulting in them being the largest group of unmarried women? And why out of all races of men are Black men the most likely to date outside of their race? Black men are twice as likely to date outside of their race as Black women.
So please, stop perpetuating fallacies just to justify your disdain or reasons for dating outside of your race. Do what you do, and keep it moving.
FYI - Most Black people date within their own race. Do not believe the hype that Black men are "leaving" Black women for White/Asian (or mixed race Latinas). The bigger issue is not interracial preferences in dating but INTRA-racial colorism and it's affects on preferences in dating within each race. Many Black men will not date White women and claim to love Blackness yet will only date the closest thing to White. But like someone posted earlier, it's ok to "hate" on a women like Serena because she's brown/dark-skinned. SMH
"@ the Black men who are stating that Black women don't want them anyway or that Black women love White men more...
I ask you this then, why out of all races of women are Black women the least likely to date outside of their race resulting in them being the largest group of unmarried women? And why out of all races of men are Black men the most likely to date outside of their race? Black men are twice as likely to date outside of their race as Black women.
So please, stop perpetuating fallacies just to justify your disdain or reasons for dating outside of your race. Do what you do, and keep it moving.'
AMEN!! Isn't that comical?? The black man is the only group of people on this planet who seek to date outside of their race more often than in - yet he talks to us like something is wrong with us for not having the same white obsession.. His nose is too wide open for him to see that for the most part all races, men and women, tend to love and date their own first and foremost.. There is nothinhg wrong with perferring your own.. But he alwasy wants t o talk about noone wanting us becuase we aren't as hung up with the interracial thing as his self hating house coon ass is.. Just look at how the black man places his self worth on if a white woman will date him?!?! OJ Simpson: One of the most renouned, successful Athletes on the planet, a legend in his own right.. Young black kids looked up tio this man.. He had everything going for him.. But the minute the white woman didn't want him anymore what did he do?? He threw it all away because it meant NOTHING if he didn't have his white woman to send it on.. With all he achieved in his lifetime he still felt worthless without the white woman on his arm..
It's sad...
@ BrownSuggaSista...
But thankfully that type of thinking in Black men is usually relegated to irrelevant entertainers with minimal intellect and/or education or bottom-feeders within the Black community. That is not MOST Black men. I could care less what men like OJ, Akon, Jay-z, Kobe, TI, Wesley Snipes and the likes of them find attractive lol Why should you??? I wouldn't date men like that if they were average Joes, and money doesn't change that fact.
samid77, is there ignorance when it comes to interracial dating? Of course. Is there a double standard when it comes to black women dating interracially? Absolutely. But will making stupid asinine insults towards black men because of this actually resolve anything or inspire an intelligent debate? No, and that's my point. Ignorance begets more ignorance. And juvenile insults does nothing but add fuel to the fire. -------------------------------------------------- Thank you for actually responding to my post because I've noticed that when a woman isn't being hateful, bashing black men, etc. and actually speaking in a calm manner yet essentially saying the same thing, they tend to get ignored. I'm pretty sure it's because they like to fcuk with the more insecure "sounding" ones because their buttons are easier to push. So I'll say thanks for that.
Now, I understand that it's pretty much pointless to go back and forth with insults, but I'm REALLY gonna need people to acknowledge the fact that on A LOT of these IR dating (etc.) topics, the MAJORITY of the time, BM (I'm guessing they're the ones poting it or gay women, not trying to make assumptions)are the ones who initially get EXTREMELY hateful with their comments.
An example of that is when a person will say that they find the non-black woman unattractive, probably because they ACTUALLY find them unattractive. When that happens it's like a lot of the guys are just waiting for just one insult to straight just go off and talk about how the person is "hating" or "jealous" because she’s ugly and they’re fine.
NEWSFLASH: A woman can actually find another woman unattractive without being "bitter" or "jealous" or having a hidden agenda!
The main problem that I see is that men LOVE to feed off of a woman’s PERCEIVED insecurity when it's really (a majority of the time) the guy who's projecting HIS little complexes onto her.
All I'm really saying is that don't start with the whole PC "You guys are being ignorant!" when it suits you, when just about any other time your the one dishing out the unnecessary hatred, JUST TO GET A RISE OUT OF SOMEONE.
Isn't it amazing that low budget magazine is geared for Black men, BUT when do you ever see Black females on it? It's sad because magazines like these are sending a SUBLIMINAL message that Black women are not appealing or attractive to them. Because why is there rarely a black female on there??? You RARELY see men magazines for white or latino men show other women. Why? Because they love their women and find them beautiful. They obviously don't put "other" women on a pedestal, in comperance to their women. But that's exactly what black men do. On blogs, on black men magazines and in rap videos. For example, 50 Cent,Akon and LL Cool J are the few rappers that showcase black females, and dark ones at that. While the majority of rappers showcase only light skinned black women, or not show black women at all, BUT highlight Brazilian or Latino women. Do you see rockers doing that? Or Latino musicians? Or even Asian ones? NO. People can say preference all they want...But I feel like the gap between black woman and men won't ever close. We have hostility between eachother. It has personally affected me to a point, where I picture my possible husband will be white...Oh,well.
I really don't care that who he has on his arm. I love my black men. I'm mixed so does that make my husband a sell out. Has it really come to that. Are we back to the not black enough?
I'm tired of us women being objectified. When will that end? And you wonder why so many women subject themselves to so much to become "media beautiful".
Sex sells you say...AIDS kills is my reply.
samid77 flag post NEWSFLASH: A woman can actually find another woman unattractive without being "bitter" or "jealous" or having a hidden agenda!
The main problem that I see is that men LOVE to feed off of a woman’s PERCEIVED insecurity when it's really (a majority of the time) the guy who's projecting HIS little complexes onto her. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
EXACTLY. I think society as a whole think we are all bitter, jealous and always in competition. Yet, if a man calls another man unattractive, he's stating his opinion. So many double standards and now we can't practice free speech. :-)
@SexyBrown-Speak the truth! Black women are VERY loyal to our men, too bad it often isn't returned. And yes we are starting to date white men and others, WHY? Because we are pushed away and not appreciated. Everytime I see a Black woman with a white man;I feel proud for her. It's a sign we are expanding our horizons, probablity for happiness and a good partner increase. When Black women go inter-racial; it's likely in good intentions and genuine reasons. While Black men do it for superficial and trivial reasons.
That cover is horrible by the way those girls are not attractive ..sry. Even if they were black they wouldnt be but thats irelevant.
What makes this cover adverse is the fact that it say's "For Strong, Positive, Caring Brothers" ehem but Akon has two half dressed females looking like they just got done a threesome, sitting on a bike. So what do black men care about bikes and half-naked hispanic women. They have to do better than that..
There aren't black men in the ll cool j or nelly thread saying "yo dude is ugly", so why are women in here talking about other womens looks. It only shows insecurity. Can one of you jealous ladies explain to me? I just don't get it the reason, for these inexplicable comments towards women that don't affect your life. Strange!
ecuasionz Flag post There aren't black men in the ll cool j or nelly thread saying "yo dude is ugly", so why are women in here talking about other womens looks. It only shows insecurity. Can one of you jealous ladies explain to me? I just don't get it the reason, for these inexplicable comments towards women that don't affect your life. Strange! --------------- Handing Bailout $$$$ like candy
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The same way you can say someone's cute, why can't you say if you think someone is ugly??? It is NOT always jealousy. Also, men are just like women, you have your opinions on what is ugly or beautiful. It's just that women to be more vocal about what they think.
"When Black women go inter-racial; it's likely in good intentions and genuine reasons. While Black men do it for superficial and trivial reasons."
I agree with this 1,000,000%!!! I honestly believe interracial love is genuine until it comes to a black man and a non black woman, especially if she's white.. Black men are the only race of men out here who will actively seek out a woman of another race to be with.. No other group of men, or women, seem to have this issue... That's why I don't get mad when a sista steps out.. Atleast it's genuine..
"There aren't black men in the ll cool j or nelly thread saying "yo dude is ugly", so why are women in here talking about other womens looks. It only shows insecurity. Can one of you jealous ladies explain to me? I just don't get it the reason, for these inexplicable comments towards women that don't affect your life. Strange!"
Why do you care, house coon?? Why do you care what a bunch of women think about another woman?? LOL @ these golliwogs actually looking to pick a fight with their own women over not thinking another woman is attractive... Be a fukking man.. Stop looking for women to fight with.. Don't be a [EXPLETIVE] all your life... Everyone is entitled to their own opinions.. The bytches are ugly, end of story..
LOL @ this save a non black ho house golliwog.. Black males like you are the reason I will continue to call black males like you the ignorant house coons that you are..
There aren't black men in the ll cool j or nelly thread saying "yo dude is ugly", so why are women in here talking about other womens looks. It only shows insecurity. Can one of you jealous ladies explain to me? I just don't get it the reason, for these inexplicable comments towards women that don't affect your life. Strange! -------------------------------------------------- C'mon now! Stop asking lame ass questions that you already know the answer to try to make a valid point. It's because....men and women are different! Is this really new? Wow! Women ALSO compliment each other a whole hell of a lot more than men do but no!, that's night quite as entertaining right. And for the record the only time men EVER really compliment each other is when they're talking about someTHING the other guy has. I sure hope this comment isn't targeted toward BW because women of ANY race can be catty, believe me, I've worked around all white women before and they gossip and judge just as much as anyone else. Also, I don't know what website you've been on but guys call other guys ugly on here ALL the dang time, but like someone mentioned upthread "that's just his opinion" Hmmmmm. Lastly, the only times guys really ever compliement each other is when they're talking about someTHING that they have. I have not visited a site up here where men were just raving about how cut a guy's body looks, or his facial features, etc. Oh yeah, because that would be "gay" right? Nice avoidance tactic!
And some guys actually really feel uncomfortable complimenting a guy with no hidden agenda, but that's one of the differences between the sexes! BREAKING NEWS! Right!
The same way you can say someone's cute, why can't you say if you think someone is ugly??? It is NOT always jealousy. Also, men are just like women, you have your opinions on what is ugly or beautiful. It's just that women to be more vocal about what they think. -------------------------------------------------- Dang it! I could have just said "What MixedHearts said" LOL! I agree MixedHearts! LOL! I love when people act unaware when it suits them! Don't you? 8-D
"SexyBrownSugga So are you saying that you believe that it is impossible for a Black man to genuinely love a woman of another race?"
No - I don't believe it's impossible but I will always believe he purposely sought her out to fall in love with. I am not saying a black man is incapable of loving a woman of another race.. What I am saying is that he is incapable of GENUINELY falling in love with a woman of anotehr race.. I don't believe black men meet white women/non black women and genuinely fall in love like all other couples do.. I believe he purposely seeks out women of other races to fall in love with..
This FOOL is like 50 yrs old and try to pass off he is 25 ,This IDIOT/COWARD either can't handle his drinks... or just a plain moron. Apart from him molesting that underage girl in trinidad.
He proceeded in another concert in the caribbean to leave his stage and go to where the crowd was on a mini stage and deliberately elbow and push 2 women off the stage, Something mentally is not right here, Much to my disappointment he came out of those grounds alive.
"This FOOL is like 50 yrs old and try to pass off he is 25 ,This IDIOT/COWARD either can't handle his drinks... or just a plain moron. Apart from him molesting that underage girl in trinidad. "
OKAY?? How did that old ugly black ass n!gga think he was going to pass himself off as a 25 year old?!?!?
And he needed to do some time over that Trini girl thing.. That made no sense whatsoever..
@ SEXY BROWN "I don't believe black men meet white women/non black women and genuinely fall in love like all other couples do.. "
Other couples as in same race couples? You are an idiot. You sound like the biggest fool right now. What does race have to do with LOVE???? Go beat your head on the wall.
LMFAO @ YOU - the reason no black man will stick with your crazy @ss is because you insane!!!! Go get help!
"@SEXY BROWN - you are an idiot. You are mad b/c some dude dusted you for a white girl. You have to call her fat cuz you are hurt. Get over yourself."
BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH!!! You don't know a damn thing about me..
What's wrong?? Is the big bad black man pissed because I'm calling him out on his love of fat white women?!?! It's not my fault.. You all are the ones chasing them...
Remember the doctor who got in trouble for telling the fat white woman she was getting so big only a black man would want her?!?! LOL - there is a reason he said that...
@SexyBrownSuggaSista...Sweetheart..them nappy headed n!66a will do any thing to win your attention..i bet that JAMES007 Done mastrubated 3 times over your picture..ni66a cant f00l me..i got 3 sisters AND THEY ARE BLAZING LIKE YOU and i see what they go through..keep your head up baby girl..or get your man on them corny..scared COWARDS!!!!!!!!!
"Other couples as in same race couples? You are an idiot. You sound like the biggest fool right now. What does race have to do with LOVE???? Go beat your head on the wall."
Other couples PERIOD - mixed race or not.. And don't try that race has nothing to do with it crap on me.. Its so comical how the black man never wants anyone to see race when he's chasing ass but the minute he commits a crime and has to answer for it - he plays the race card everytime...
"LMFAO @ YOU - the reason no black man will stick with your crazy @ss is because you insane!!!! Go get help!"
What leads you to believe a black man won't stick with me?? LOL - I need a can of n!gga repellant to keep them off me.. Try again.. You clown kill me with your assessment of people you don't even know.. Get the hell on..
"@ SEXY BROWN - so is Seal's wife UMMM HEIDI KLUM a fat white woman? You are an idiot. You prove that everytime you post a comment."
First of all - you pull out one couple as an attempt to prove my statement wrong, and that's just comical..
Second, actually what strikes me most about Heidi is she never even looked at a black man until the white man she tried to trap into marriage dumped her with a big belly.. She wanted that white man, not Seal.. She settled for Seal.. Who else wanted her pregnant with another mans child but a black man?!??! That was the only way she looked at a black man - with a big belly.. So in essence, she was fat!! LOL!!!
"@ Sexy Brown - LOL you crack me up. You are going to sit here and tell us that black men want you for anything than sex? You are wrong. That is why the wrong type of men are after you. So you need to bat them off? Good for you. Why does that mean that you need to bash interracial couples?"
Dude, piss off.. You don't make any sense.. You're making these wild statements and then trying to push them into fact!! Trust me, if a fat white bytch can get a black man, anyone can!!! LOL!!!
"@ Stateprop PLZZ go ask a latina , hispanic rican whatever the hell you want to call them if they are black or have black ancestors.... They are going to say hell no. And I could care less but black folk are fooling theirselves if they see us as the same ."
AMEN!! They'll probably try to kill you for even suggesting it..
@ SEXY Brown - only a black man would want a pregnant woman? Are you joking? You are putting every black male into this group of bums just because you can't stan interracial couples?!?! So you would never date a Hispanic man? White man? You are limiting yourself to a section of the population based on race alone.
I do think that you have a right to your opinion, but the truth is, love does not see colors. You can sit on MTO all day long and put down white women or latinas but it doesn't change the fact that this world is changing. Acceptance is the key to UNITY.
"@SexyBrownSuggaSista...Sweetheart..them nappy headed n!66a will do any thing to win your attention..i bet that JAMES007 Done mastrubated 3 times over your picture..ni66a cant f00l me..i got 3 sisters AND THEY ARE BLAZING LIKE YOU and i see what they go through..keep your head up baby girl..or get your man on them corny..scared COWARDS!!!!!!!!!"
Thank you.. That's very nice.. These clowns in here aren't fazing me.. They know whats up.. I'd probably have to get a restraint order against heavenly_1 to get him away from me..
"Funny how you assume I am a black male?!?! Or maybe a white female?!?! But you would be suprised, I check the same boxes as you. No restraining order needed. I don't do ignorant chicks! LOL BTW, you are not that fine. Get over yourself."
You're a black man and you want me - end of story.. You want me and you know it!!
heavenly_1 Flag post I do think that you have a right to your opinion, but the truth is, love does not see colors. You can sit on MTO all day long and put down white women or latinas but it doesn't change the fact that this world is changing. Acceptance is the key to UNITY.
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PREACH!!!!!! co-signing with that quote. Let em know!
"I do think that you have a right to your opinion, but the truth is, love does not see colors.'
It does with a black man.. Why else would he be the only race of man consistently seeking out women of other races to fall in love with?!?! The proof is in the pudding.. Black men are colorstruck.. He is the only race of man who feels he has officially made it when a woman of another race will accept him into her bed, especially if it is a white woman.. Just look at how he tries to lower the black woman self esteem and worth because other races of men are not flocking to her.. So cut this bullshit about love seeing no color.. That may be the case with other mixed race couples but its rarely the case with a black man.. In fact he's probably about the only race of man who does see color when he loves..
"FCUK AKON & THEM SKANKS IN THE PICTURE! I'M NOT A FAN OF HIS & WHAT ELSE IS NEW...THEY ALWAYS GOTTA HAVE EITHER A LATINA, WHITE WOMAN OR SOME LIGHT BRIGHT DAYUM NEAR WHITE SISTA!"
OKAY??????????!!!!!!!!!!!??????
But always wants to claim with a straight face that love sees no color... All the black man sees is color when he is dating - and in just about every other aspect of his day to day life.. Look at how quick he'll bring up color when he's in legal trouble..
THIS IS THE ONE THING I CANT GET. WHY IS EVERYONE IN THE FOCKING WORLD SO CONTENT ON BEATING A DEAD HORSE....BLACK WOMEN. WHY DOES EVERYBODY TRY SO HARD TO MAKE BLACK WOMEN MAD AND UPSET. AS IF WE DO NOT HAVE THE SHITTY END OF THE STICK ON EVERYTHING. AND IF YOU ARE A DARK SKINNED WOMAN YOU ARE A TRIPPLE MINORITY. ON THE BOTTOM WROND. IT IS LIKE PUTTING SALT ON A WOUND...BEATING THE [EXPLETIVE] OUT OF A DEAD HORSE.....HELL WE ARE ALREADY DOWN TRODDEN. WOULD YOU RATHER US JUST FALL OFF THE PLANET AND DIE....NO EVEN AFTER THAT PEOPLE WILL FOLLOW BLACK WOMEN TO THEIR GRAVE STILL PROCLAIMING OUR INFERRIORITY TO EVERY GOD DAMN OTHER WOMAN ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH. I AM SO SAD AND DOWN TRODDEN AND UGLY AND INFERIOR..... NO BODY WANTS ME CAUSE IM DARK AND LOOK LIKE A MAN..... BOO HOOO HOO ..... OK...HAPPY NOW WORLD.... YOU CANT KILL SOMETHING THATS ALREADY DEAD
"BLACK WOMEN. WHY DOES EVERYBODY TRY SO HARD TO MAKE BLACK WOMEN MAD AND UPSET. AS IF WE DO NOT HAVE THE SHITTY END OF THE STICK ON EVERYTHING. AND IF YOU ARE A DARK SKINNED "
Cause shyt rolls downhill and sadly some people, namely black men, can only feel bigger when they are making some else feel smaller.. There really isn't anyone else the black man can pick on because he's the at the bottom himself.. So he pciks on what he perceives to be lower than him... Sad, isn't it.. Something is seriously wrong when a black man needs to put down his own women to uplift himself..
"NO EVEN AFTER THAT PEOPLE WILL FOLLOW BLACK WOMEN TO THEIR GRAVE STILL PROCLAIMING OUR INFERRIORITY TO EVERY GOD DAMN OTHER WOMAN ON THE FACE OF THE EARTH. I AM SO SAD AND DOWN TRODDEN AND UGLY AND INFERIOR..... NO BODY WANTS ME CAUSE IM DARK AND LOOK LIKE A MAN..... BOO HOOO HOO ..... OK...HAPPY NOW WORLD.... YOU CANT KILL SOMETHING THATS ALREADY DEAD"
This is exactly what I mean when I say the balck man needs to cut that crap about love not seeing color.. Just look at how much color matters to him to the point that he's out there bashing his own to uplift other races of women..
@lonnydan
DON'T EVEN LET IT PHASE YOU! I've learned that it's mostly hatred toward each other and probably nothing can be done about. I, too, am sick of the "men" coming up here claiming to not understand why BW are more accepting of BW/WM dating when I've explained it about a dozen times now. What I've also learned is that kicking knowledge to a lot of these a-holes don't work because the only wanna respond to the "loud' and embittered" sounding ones because weak men and women like to push the buttons of those who sound insecure becuase they're actually pathetic. I'm not calling the people who do such things "pathetic" to be mean but it's just true.
Another thing that I've noticed is that this hatred of BM and BW is ingrained in us. It's so sad.
So far, I've had two boyfriends that claimed to be Islamic yet still have relentlessly tried to get a rise out of me by constantly mentioning IR dating veiled as a "joke" but I know that they were just trying to see if I was gonna be all "Na uh! You better not be dating them stringy haired b!tches" or something to that effect. But guess what? I just laugh it off or ignore them. Yet on about a weekly basis they'd try to provoke a heated response from me. No luck! LOL! A lot of black men are just rotten (not all of them, but a lot that I've encountered). I still love them though, but I know how horribly insecure they can be so I don't play into it.
Yeah funny how the women say I avoided something which they wouldn't elaborate on to suit my agenda. What is my agenda? I just want to know why there are more women here judging a womans look then men. Sounds catty, childish and unclassy to be in a thread that has nothing to do with what you as a woman should be attracted to(except to make yourself out to be a victim, when you weren't in the convo to begin with).Hilarious! And it's also even funnier when you women get your cards pulled like in the Halle thread, you women will swear how all black men are ALL BUMBS IN JAIL and whatever else, all while justifying white men as the creme of the crop to "SUIT YOUR ARGUMENT". I didn't fall for it, but some sensative men did. I smell horse-crap. Any ladies want to explain that paradoxical foolishness.
It's 2009, time to drop the insecurities ladies. OR NOT!! SMH!!
Well I always thought that brown skinned women like Kelly from (destiny's chil, Jessica White (model), Naoimi Cambell(Model), and Michelee Obama were more attractive. I also find caramel brown attractive, this is my opinion. Now what I have noticed is that most light skinned black women and other women have higher self esteem it seems than most darker skinned women. I think lighter skinned women have more to look up to in the media and thier is not of of enough images of darker skinned black women on tv. If you look at CNN news, all the black women are light skinned, and I must say, most of the black men on their are light skinned or light brown in complexion. The only darker skinned women, who is attractive, that is on thier, she is a corrispondent, she is not a anchor, and also a few darker skinned black men are corrisponedents, they are not anchors as well. Its all a mind game by the media to make us think that light skinned is better when all shades of black are attractive.
@ecuasionz:
Wow! Either you've been picking and choosing posts out of this thread or just haven't been paying attention because I know for a fact that at least someone (including me) has touched on or answered all of the things that you’re referring, too. But just in case you've innocently missed something let me go head and just copy/paste what I wrote about one of your "complaints" 8-):
1)Yea, but let's not pick and choose who's hating because on other boards, both male and female posters have said the exact same stuff if not worse about Serena Williams and other dark-skinned or "regular" black females. But I guess it's not termed "hating" since Serena a darkie and all, right? No one could EVER be jealous of her. **sarcasm** 2) C'mon now! Stop asking lame ass questions that you already know the answer to try to make a valid point. It's because....men and women are different! Is this really new? Wow! Women ALSO compliment each other a whole hell of a lot more than men do but no!, that's night quite as entertaining right. And for the record the only time men EVER really compliment each other is when they're talking about someTHING the other guy has. I sure hope this comment isn't targeted toward BW because women of ANY race can be catty, believe me, I've worked around all white women before and they gossip and judge just as much as anyone else. Also, I don't know what website you've been on but guys call other guys ugly on here ALL the dang time, but like someone mentioned upthread "that's just his opinion" Hmmmmm. Lastly, the only times guys really ever compliement each other is when they're talking about someTHING that they have. I have not visited a site up here where men were just raving about how cut a guy's body looks, or his facial features, etc. Oh yeah, because that would be "gay" right? Nice avoidance tactic! Don’t know HOW you missed this sh!t! LOL!
Its not always about a woman being insecure.Use that to not take what someone saying or feel seriously. Men sound real ignorant when they say it because Woman are not the only ones that are insecure, men have a thing called ego that they like to attest too rather undercover or blantently. but thats another discussion..
@ manseminole
A homogenous race of MIXED race people is impossible. Mixed race people are not Black. Neither are those who kept mixing with other mixed race people to preserve light-skin in their family pool and keep dark-skin out of it. They are MIXED! Obama, Halle, and Alicia Keys are MIXED race, not Black.
It's a racist ideology to believe that those people are Black. Why can the White race be pure but the Black race cannot? Because to the White dominant group, anyone who has a drop of Black blood is tainted and 'dirty,' thus 'IT' cannot be one of theirs. That is where that ideology is rooted in; and tragically, Blacks have taken on that same belief. Blacks love to claim that which is not apart of them to feel better about themselves. "Oh we are all not dark and ugly... look at [insert mixed or light-skinned celeb here]." Other races see this, and laugh at Blacks. They use that as further proof of Black's inferiority - "Most successful or attractive Blacks are actually of mixed race... so that must mean their non-Black admixture attributed to their success or beauty."
HELLOOOOO, see the destruction of our race due to this false & racist ideology!????
We are not one race of people with the same struggles, viewed the same by society, or treated the same.
The same system that benefits Whites also benefits to a lesser degree those who most closely resemble Whites. That is why White Irish and Jews were able to come to the US and elevate their class or image in the world. For those who cannot mix in undetected, being closest to White is the next best thing. Ask many Asians.
*yawn* iimma Dominican nd Black myself...so ii have nothiing negatiive to say. Dudes, ii don't really see women hating on hiim or these females...most chicks have said "so what" not because they are jealous, but because Akon is irrelevant. He does indeed sound like a dying squirrel and iive always thot tha. smh @ Black dudes thinkin Black women are ALWAYS jealous...nowadays, we just don't give a damn...lmao. go ahead and taste the rainbow cuz more and more Black women are doing the same. and yall dudes wanna hate on Halle...SMFH !!
ExcuseMe
I AGREE WITH YOUR WHOLE POST.
Black people don't realize this stuff though. They don't realize that the "one drop rule" was racist then and is racist now.
Other races laugh at black-african people when we put down our own... people on here think there just joking BUT WHY DOES THE JOKE HAVE TO BE ON US? How many of these people who make jokes about the crispy blue black man or the brown skinned sista make jokes about other races? That's right they don't.
I remember that thread with Akon, Warren Buffett, and Lionel Richie... and nobody made a joke about how white Warren B was.... all the jokes were directed at Akon... which is sad.
As an African I love Black-American people.... but yall need to kick those colorism and light-skin/dark skin shyt.
Damn, the system white supremecy programming never ends. The confusion is purposely done so the darker people of color never feel good about the way they look and will always be in awe of people with less color. Black mens magazine, without a black woman! Think you would ever see that self hating mess in a magazine with non black people, some latin guy or white guy with two black women. Wake up people, turn the program off.
i had to log in and post a comment first off i really didnt see the big deal about the magazine cover.but when i logged in and saw all the negative comments from man mostly i was like what the [EXPLETIVE] im fina keep it all the way real no hate theses two women on the cover are ugly and kind of look manly that just my opinon, but latinas girls are not prettyer then black women period there are beauitiful women of all races im not fina sit here and put no race down but the truth is the truth i rarely see pretty white women my opinon i think the real latinos women are in cal or something cause all i see in the south and up north is a bunch of [EXPLETIVE] mexcain sorry and they women be ugly as hell black men are the (biggest disipointment since god)black men on this site pitting down there own black women bad.thats real sad im not saying that black women dont need to step there game up but come on black men we are your women at the end of the day we are the afican america race and we have came from nothing to a half black man in the white house aint no other race came as far as us peiod.
sexy brown@ you are very pretty girl and what you are saying is real point blank let these hating self-hating men say what they wont because the truth is this women are go hate and be jelouse and they do that in every single race i have been around almost every different races all girls talk [EXPLETIVE] but whats sad is its only the black men that put there on woemn down its soooo sad.them women on that cover are ugly to me point blank black women are beauitful if not them most beautiful race of all and we hold up the best.(Real [EXPLETIVE] do real things and real [EXPLETIVE] dont down there own women the way they do on here and just in socity period)the truth hurts*
black men please stand up become the leaders and warriors and the strong black men that us black women looked up too that we was proud to call are men.stop putting were own women down its pathic and just sooo very sad 9for the black women look up this name kola boof kola boof kola boof )read everything she says she is the truth.kola boof.we have to give birth to a new kind of man let these coons and [EXPLETIVE] kill them selfs off and then give birth to real men.
@ Sexybrownsuga and Mixedheart I agree with both of you 100% I think there are a few respectable Black men out there, but the majority of them are suffering from a variety of insecurities which just manifests in this self-hatred that we see over and over again. Most Black women love Black men, but we are forced to expand our horizons. Lol at "coon."
Leftee
That's how we feel. We're sick to death of dealing with repulsive diva like attitudes at business meetings, lounges etc.
We have love for the sweet but strong type (black women), but they are the minority. It feels good to go out and get treated like your a hot sexy ass dude instead of like your're beneath somebody that doesn't even bring a lot to the table as far as opportunities.
SupaMYLF thanks! I'm glad that sOme people are seeing that all I'm trying to get people to do is acknowledge the truth but a lot of the "men" up hear only wanna make responses to the easy targets when they KNOW we're pretty much saying the exact same things, just in different ways.
I'm not trying to be condescending, but I guess the truth is too hard to handle for a lot of people, but that's the only reason I can think of as to why this sad pattern of us being at each others throats trying to get embittered, insecure and jealous reactions out of each other.
I'm not trying to be all "Roots" and everything but slavery really did fcuk us up. It's very sad. 8-( -------------------------------------------------- LOL @ LoveMeLynn's comment: -"He does indeed sound like a dying squirrel and iive always thot tha." -------------------------------------------------- I made a comment in the Janet Jackson thread and where she was getting about the same amount of insults (if not more) about being old, etc. and I said something along the lines of:
"Wow, women (etc.) are "hating" JUST AS MUCH as they are on this thread and other ones involving non-black women, but NOT ONCE did I hear anyone refer to them as being "jealousm insecure HATERS" I guess there's no reason to be jealous of her since she's neither lt. skinned, of mixed heritage, or non-black" When I call out things like that? NO RESPONSE or people begin to avoid the issue itself and make up RETARDED-ass excuses. SMH.
Bottom line: DO WHAT YOU DO, DATE WHOEVER YOU WANT (OBVIOUSLY) BUT BE HONEST ABOUT IT AND STOP IT THE POINTLESS COMPARISONS AND BASHING!
ExcuseMe @ manseminole
A homogenous race of MIXED race people is impossible. Mixed race people are not Black. Neither are those who kept mixing with other mixed race people to preserve light-skin in their family pool and keep dark-skin out of it. They are MIXED! Obama, Halle, and Alicia Keys are MIXED race, not Black.
It's a racist ideology to believe that those people are Black. Why can the White race be pure but the Black race cannot? Because to the White dominant group, anyone who has a drop of Black blood is tainted and 'dirty,' thus 'IT' cannot be one of theirs. That is where that ideology is rooted in; and tragically, Blacks have taken on that same belief. Blacks love to claim that which is not apart of them to feel better about themselves. "Oh we are all not dark and ugly... look at [insert mixed or light-skinned celeb here]." Other races see this, and laugh at Blacks. They use that as further proof of Black's inferiority - "Most successful or attractive Blacks are actually of mixed race... so that must mean their non-Black admixture attributed to their success or beauty."
HELLOOOOO, see the destruction of our race due to this false & racist ideology!????
We are not one race of people with the same struggles, viewed the same by society, or treated the same.
The same system that benefits Whites also benefits to a lesser degree those who most closely resemble Whites. That is why White Irish and Jews were able to come to the US and elevate their class or image in the world. For those who cannot mix in undetected, being closest to White is the next best thing. Ask many Asians. ------------------------------------------------- Well I have mixed grandfather's and I am brown skinned. Only one grand mother is believed to be purely black. All sibligs range from dark-medium brown, to light brown, and I have very fair skinned nieces and nephews. So am I mixed too? I thought that most African Americans were mixed, that is why we come in different complexions. I thought our mixtures were to variant degrees and it could produce any look. I know for a fact that a lot of mixed folks in my family married only other mixed people back in the day, but their was a cut off point. I do agree that Obama, Alicia Keyes, and Halle Berry are not truthfully black, but they are considered black. But if they are not black, what is the difference between the bi-racials and Light-Skinned black folks, or Black Americans, I can hardly tell us apart sometimes. I also have friends that are half Native American and they look exactly like me.
LOL!! I never heard one Black Man complain about how they have Riahnna's leading man in the video is always a white guy.
Back in the days, they used to market SADE the same way, and black men still loved her, and bought her music.
@ STAYPOPPIN01 and others who make a habbit of doing this:
C'mon now, you gotta stop it with these once-in-a-blue-moon comparisons. Because it honestly sounds just as valid as white people talking about the few black people that have "discriminated" against them. It's like "C'mon now, are you serious?
Wow! Sade, Rihanna and a handful of other black female entertainers have had white men in their videos! WHAT'S GOIN ON, MAN!
You gotta admit that you know GOOD AND WELL it's about the rate that IR dating has with BM and other races that makes it more questionable and less like a genuine thing.
All of the BM who "encorage" BW to do the same thing, IR date, they know good and well that if BW were doing it at the exact same rate as them, they know they WOULD NOT be automatically assuming Awe! They just probably have a connection. Just be real because no one is buying that sh!t.
And of course BM gonna deny it, because that's what people do when they don't forsee it happening, because it's safe. You know like how, obviously racism will always be around, but when there was a "threat" of a BLACK MAN becoming president, all of those ignorant-as* white people that you wouln't even suspect started to show. their. arses!
Once again, if anyone has seen True Life: "I'm in an IR Relationship" with that BW/WM all of those BM constantly coming up to the couple and harrasing them didn't seem like they we're thing "Love sees no color" LOL!
@every intellegent blogger...
Light-Skinned black folks, or Black Americans, I can hardly tell us apart sometimes. Tell you the truth the reason why we are so mixed minded is because us as Black people have failed to find our identity. We are so caught up into the perspectives of others. We allow Whites define who we are when we don't feel that is who we really are. Black is much more then a midnight sky it is the beauty within the people who created it. We are Black despite the color of our skin. We have come from STRONG PEOPLE. That fought for the death but, yet will kill one another because of this self- hatred image we have for ourselves. The media portrays us as all "GHETTO" and we believe them. Certain behavior of what the expect us to be we accept so dearly. We are slandered by the medias negative imagery. The worlds expects us to be what they see on television. And its crazy because it on Cable. Something we struggle to pay every month. Blacks are the high rated sitcoms. Blacks from the beginning of time have been used. Product to capitalism. Systematically, racial slurs were circulated to keep us in this caged mind frame.
I used these two women as an example to show the hypocrisy when it's the other way around. If I'm not mistaken, brothers still loved Sade, and Riahanna. Name one time on One Rihanna thread where you heard " SELL OUT ASS"
I DIDN'T THINK YOU COULD!!!! -------------------------------------------------- -"I DIDN'T THINK YOU COULD!!!!" Wow, I guess you're psychic now or something, eh?
First off, back when Sade was extremely popular, there wasn't the same technology available i.e. the Internet, msg boards, etc.,which is where you can view about 85% of this hatred/tension.
Secondly, I'm guessing you were picking and choosing picking and choosing points out of my comments because I stated that...here, let me just copy and paste it: "You gotta admit that you know GOOD AND WELL it's about the rate that IR dating has with BM and other races that makes it more questionable and less like a genuine thing."
Lastly, where did I state that "this is a clear indication that ALL black men are like that" I, too, was just stating an example of when the once-in-a-blue-moon time BM etc. do see it (and I HIGHLY DOUBT that all of those dozens of BM were purly against IR dating) they aren't thinking "love has no color" "love is blind"
I'm not trying to argue like a lot of the ill-informed women do up here, but please don't pick and choose things out of my VERY detailed posts just so you can make a "valid" point.
Such Double Standards. Not one black men used words like coon to describe black women. Ya'll black women have serious self hate and insecurity issues, whether you want to admit or not. Calling men of your own race the same thing that a White Supremacist would is inexplicable. SMH!! Willie Lynch is smiling down from the sky at black women calling black men coons.SMH!! Obama and Michelle must be SO PROUD!!
God Bless America!!!
I haven't read all the comments here(I don't really plan to as it's the usual insecurity from BBW), but I must say that yours struck a cord with me there, it really did. I call it seeing what you choose to say based on your personal opinions. I've noticed that in a lot of videos and movies over the years, a lot of Black women were constantly shown, loving, kissing, etc with White men, but I never thought anything of it. However, something as small as AKon taking pictures with two models struck a negative cord with the Black women here. I didn't help matters any on how MTO labeled the story either. Very interesting and I'm glad you brought that up. -------------------------------------------------- @ TDR25 Okay, I know men won't admit it but they feed off of a woman's "insecurity" that's why they constantly attemp to provoke it.
Back to the subject, are you really unaware that when producers, directors, etc. feature black men and women as the focal point of a movie, they tend to match them up with a white person so that they appeal to the mainstream public i.e. ticket sales? -------------------------------------------------- "I also thought this comment was pretty impressive and it made you think. It goes back to what Staypoppin01 was saying. Even though it isn't really shown as much, I have to agree that if it was Robin Thicke surrounded by Black women(just look at his videos), no one would really have a problem with it, especially Black women. However every time a video from a famous rapper comes out and a darkskinned girl is no where in sight, a serious problem with complexions, races, and other minuscule issues arise."
Once again: "You gotta admit that you know GOOD AND WELL it's about the rate that IR dating has with BM and other races that makes it more questionable and less like a genuine thing."
AND:
"And of course BM gonna deny it, because that's what people do when they don't forsee it happening, because it's safe. You know like how, obviously racism will always be around, but when there was a "threat" of a BLACK MAN becoming president, all of those ignorant-as* white people that you wouln't even suspect started to show. their. arses!"
If that doesn't give you a lil bit of insight, then I'm gonna just consider it willful ignorance. No disrespect.
Samid
Just because other women that share your agenda to date out and be all surly about it, doesn't make you as intelligent as they gas you up to be. You try to act like black women don't have LAME double standards. Point is that no black men have downed black women as you Bitterbrown sister amongst others have. We just don't mind looking at non-black women. Get over it, OR NOT!! Talking about what other race of men do with their women is moot. You are just fumbling and bumbling over the same regurgitated horse-manure. What ever helps you sleep good at night, but you aren't "Shutting down" anybody.
Please Believe
"Another insecure fool for another day. I have a divine right as a man to like and find attractive any female that I want. Don't get mad at me because your highly insecure, hate your own skin, actually wish that was you on that cover, hate Black men for not worshipping who you think you are. I could go on, but I'll just leave it with this and say, a queen you are not, stop it with the divaism, self worship, yet insecure as hell type personality and worry about you, not what a Black man likes in his females. Failure to do so only proves my point of your inadequacy, insecurity, and an extreme feeling of inferiority on your behalf. Have a nice night."
Whatever gets you to sleep. Where in my post did I sound "highly insecure"?
Being called "weird" sets you off? I'm sorry, that's all it takes?
These "insecure-fool" tactics may work on other women but I see right through it. It's okay, I know you know better, though.
It appears that jumping to negative assumptions when I'm just calmly stating how I feel...on a MESSAGE BOARD is the only way a lot of the people up here know how to respond because being tactful about it doesn't get some of us far.
I know that your just trying to get me to sound ignorant but I'm smarter than that. 8-(
TDR25
I was in the Halle thread, but my words of wisdoms were drowned out by sensitive black men and insensitive black women. I told them that ignoring the ruthless, heartless women would make more of an impact than feeding into the BS. You could tell the women were saying hurtful things and hurling epithets to get a rise out the black men. At that point, the women had all the power and made these men feel guilty or some indignation, for what, I don't know. It saddens me to see men give women such power over them, not to mention risking a heart-attack. Over what? If black women want to start a white man movement, I am truly indifferent. I wish them luck!! Why let them get a rise out of you? I must just be a different type of dude. How can I control a woman who I don't even know dates? Why should I care? One of life's great mysteries with caring about people you don't know.
God Bless America!
"Just because other women that share your agenda to date out and be all surly about it, doesn't make you as intelligent as they gas you up to be. You try to act like black women don't have LAME double standards. Point is that no black men have downed black women as you Bitterbrown sister amongst others have. We just don't mind looking at non-black women. Get over it, OR NOT!! Talking about what other race of men do with their women is moot."
-"Bitterbrown"? Sweetie, listen at your mentality and tell me who's the hateful one. And with half of your points, I don't even know what your referring to, "surley", "agenda"??? -------------------------------------------------- "You are just fumbling and bumbling over the same regurgitated horse-manure. What ever helps you sleep good at night, but you aren't "Shutting down" anybody."
-I guess some of this must have rang true because I never insinuated that I was "shutting" anyone "down." These are just explanations and emotions aren't logic, you know. Yes, it may seem lame but what do you want me to say? It still exists. Men don't have double standards? Don't worry about it, your right, it really is pointless I'm just sick of the bashing. I haven't insulted anyone and that's how I was approached, but like I said, I know better than that.
Reading some of your earlier comments, and then you all of a sudden just commenting on my personal opinion 'DOES' make you sound a little insecure, I'm sorry. I'm not saying you should just okey doke everything and not have an opinion, but some of your earlier statements sounded like desperation, insecurity, and inadeqacy. It's like you and others here want to berate a Black man for being attracted to other races. Maybe not you solely, but that's how it's coming across. -------------------------------------------------- PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE copy and paste what I've said to insinuate this. Seriously, PLEASE do. And then point out how I was hateful or desparate about it because I think you may be projecting your own feeling about the BW being inferior.
Samid
I didn't pick through yoour comments and come up with a fragmented response. Nice try, but it was weak.
I like how you got away from answering my question about have you ever seen anyone call Riahana a sell out. How about answering that the second time around for me, it's still an open question.
No, we didn't have the internet back in the days with Sade, but we had word of mouth. How do you explain that there was not an outcry in the black community about that???
"I was in the Halle thread, but my words of wisdoms were drowned out by sensitive black men and insensitive black women. I told them that ignoring the ruthless, heartless women would make more of an impact than feeding into the BS. You could tell the women were saying hurtful things and hurling epithets to get a rise out the black men. At that point, the women had all the power and made these men feel guilty or some indignation, for what, I don't know. It saddens me to see men give women such power over them, not to mention risking a heart-attack. Over what? If black women want to start a white man movement, I am truly indifferent. I wish them luck!! Why let them get a rise out of you? I must just be a different type of dude. How can I control a woman who I don't even know dates? Why should I care? One of life's great mysteries with caring about people you don't know."
-I'm not AT ALL gonna deny that a lot of BW don't say things to get a rise out of BM, but are you really gonna deny that BM don't purposely do the EXACT same thing? Remember, ignorance begets ignorance. That's human nature, you know?
Samid
Forgive me, I'm not try to be a pedant, but I typed "surly" not "surley". And yes, your agenda is to prove black men are such weird men for appreciating the beauty of non-black(even though these women have black ancestry, but any way) women, as if you were implying other races of men don't do the same. Are you just upset that black men IR date more than black women? I never knew we were competing. Anyway, just know that I did not call any black women names as COON amongst other racial slurs. Do you condone blacks calling each other racial slurs? Please, show us what you really mean!! Indoctrinate me!!
"I didn't pick through yoour comments and come up with a fragmented response. Nice try, but it was weak.
I like how you got away from answering my question about have you ever seen anyone call Riahana a sell out. How about answering that the second time around for me, it's still an open question.
No, we didn't have the internet back in the days with Sade, but we had word of mouth. How do you explain that there was not an outcry in the black community about that???"
@ STAYPOPPIN01:
Okay, how do you even know that theyre wasn't an uproar, as I've stated before, these message boards, Internet are the MAIN SOURCE I see of this hatred, etc.
"Word of mouth?" What were people gonna gather around at the corner store, or something, and talk about IR relationships when they weren't anywhere near as prominent back then? You didn't see an explosion of it back then, so no one really cared.
ONOH, there were always a good amount of WW or non-black women present in videos back then and I don't remember hearing how much BW despised it by "word of mouth" like it was some big outrage. Even if they did, that's how people are. If WW saw, at a rapid rate, a large amount of WM dating BW, they'd have something to say, as well. That's women for you. It's human nature, it's just circumstances that make people react the way they do to thing.
As far as "Rihanna is a sellout!" comments, no I don't recall seeing any of those comments but, once again, here is my explanation, not a FACT, but an explanation because I can't speak for all BW:
"You gotta admit that you know GOOD AND WELL it's about the rate that IR dating has with BM and other races that makes it more questionable and less like a genuine thing."
It doesn't happen as often so there's no "need" for an "uproar."
Just. my. theory and just. a. response. to what I think.
By the way, this type of convo is sooo much better than all of the bsshing! And if I don't respond to your next comment(s), I'm not ignoring, I just have to watch The Real World. 8-)
Samid
Yes, human nature and like I said, one of lifes great mysteries. I cannot care for the feelings of people I do not know, personally. I also just want to reiterate that those black men were wrong for feeding in. And also black men shouldn't be calling black women e.g. COONS and if they do they are dead wrong.
@Maniseminole the difference is Black is Black meaning more pure. Lightskin black, the recessive trait from a white ancestor decided to show itself within that black person. Mixed race person (normally 50% to 40 % something else) is a hybrid race. I hate to burst your bubble but most African Americans are not all that mixed the way they think they are. We, hybrids will take over. Just kidding!
TDR25
I take this site somewhat serious, because whether you believe it or not, this is a microcosm of the real world. Some are instigating and some are just saying what they wish they could actually say in public. Especially when the subject is about something that could easily push their buttons as, you guessed it IR DATING. Look at how many comments it elicits every time. It never fails. Fred is a mad scientist when it comes to the IR threads. And for some dumb reason I always have to add my lil 2 cents. SMH at myself for being part of the cesspool.
"This is what you said to me in my very first post: "LOL! Your so weird and you sound like Heat from "I Love Money 2" How does being attracted to a female make me weird?
TDR25, I honestly wasn't trying to be offensive, it's just that it did sound weird to me. I could have understood if this were like 1998 or something with the rise of the "Latin Explosion", but since it's not, I took it as you trying to bait some of the other females to say ignorant sh!t about Latinas since we've seen them like all over the place.
Secondly this is something else you said disparaging someone's opinion: "New 'it' girls" Whoa! I think your about a decade too late. Latina love has been prominent in videos (etc.) since like 1996. Where you been? LOL! Or is this just an attempt to try to get a rise out of the black females as a lot of the black men on MTO love to do? Probably the latter." Now I don't know about you, but someone just stating an opinion on Latin women warranted that statement from you and it sounded insecure, because that particular poster said nothing of the sort of trying to bash Black women...at least not in that post they didn't...I've still yet or probably won't read all the comments, but that's what I got from it."
I still don't get how playfully stating my opinion/perception of something makes me "insecure" I just know for a fact that A LOT (not all) men tend to use passive-aggressive tactics to get women all heated up. Jumping to call someone insecure just reminds me of what a lot of women try to do to make themselves feel better i.e. I could not like a girl for actual legitimate reasons, yet the only thing they can register in their head is "jealousy" and I'm like "That's not even my style" A female can actually have a negative opinion of another female without it being catty, but it seems as if there's more of a thrill in accusing them of "hating on" someone.
Didn't mean to be disparaging. Sh!t, I gotta look that word up! LOL!
"You see that's what I'm talking about. You tried to clean your comments up about what you said to me and that other poster about what we said about Latin women. It's quite obvious really. MTO did a race baiting story and to the subconscious mind it worked brilliantly. As a Black man, I didn't try to down, berate, or make any Black woman here feel insecure, I just saw two nice looking Latin women and I made a comment...again, I'm entitled to do this as a man in an open forum. You didn't completely trash and attack me the way others have done to other Black men(for again, giving a non-Black woman props), but the fact that you did make a comment to it in regards to the history of it happening beforehand is suspect. It would have been better to have just left my original comment alone and went on with what you were originally doing then to respond, because that gave me grounds to come back at you. Now do you see where I'm heading with this. In the Halle Berry thread a few days ago, all you saw was a lot of Black women praising, giving props to, and saying how sexy Halle's White boyfriend were, and if I were to attack just one person for doing that, that would have made me look insecure and or jealous. As I've stated before, many Black men don't care who Black women date and are attracted, but when you come at us sideways for alluding to the beauty of another woman, and bringing up reasons as to why we do this, or that, it makes you/them look jealous"
Okay, how was what I said trying to "clean anything up"? That was honestly how I felt. Let me try this approach, what do you think an approprate thing for me say to explain why I said it. Again, this "jealousy" stuff is you projecting things onto me. Like, I've said before, I have absolutelty no issues with saying that another girl is attractive no matter what race.
As far as me commenting on what you said about the two Latina's, on message boards people REACT to other peoples' comments that's what the boards are here for and I wasn't being hateful or bashing then.
OTOH, a lot of men on the "Halle" board (if it's not you, then I'm obviously not referring to you) were making some of the SAME catty comments as BW but when they do it "They're just speaking their minds" "voicing their opinions", etc. like men are immune to being jealous of one another, or something. And unless these were comments I missed that were posted days later (and I'll check tommorow) most of the comments from both men AND women were things along the line "Ugh, if you're your gonna date a white guy at least get a fine one" I don't remember anyone calling him "fine" I didn't think he was, so it sure as sh!t wasn't me.
ETA:
"OTOH, a lot of men on the "Halle" board (if it's not you, then I'm obviously not referring to you) were making some of the SAME catty comments as BW but when they do it "They're just speaking their minds" "voicing their opinions", etc. like men are immune to being jealous of one another, or something. And unless these were comments I missed that were posted days later (and I'll check tommorow) most of the comments from both men AND women were things along the line "Ugh, if you're your gonna date a white guy at least get a fine one" I don't remember anyone calling him "fine" I didn't think he was, so it sure as sh!t wasn't me."
-My bad, I was thinking of the Aisha Tyler thread, I just remembered. 8-/
@esotericdredz & LUKE_CAGE I agree 100% with both of your posts.
It seems that some of the bloggers on MTO live fot these types of topics. They come on here with guns loaded. Black Women ready to bash and stereotype Black Men and Black Men ready to bash and stereotype Black Women. And its sad because they do that only to put other races on pedestals. When will my BLACK brothers and sisters learn to love and appreciate one another?
alot of yall are extremely lame as F*&K... who really cares, and i find it hard to believe these f-ed up comments are coming out SEXYBROWNs mouth.. judging from "your pic" u dont seem like an [EXPLETIVE] that your portraying yourself to be...
PEOPLE CAN LOVE WHO THEY WANT REALLY, WHO THE SH*T ARE YOU TO PUT YOUR TWO CENTS IN...
if yall put this much effort into something constructive it could probably better you instead of cyber fighting, LMAO
I'M STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHY HE ON THE COVER OF ANY MAGAZINE AFTER SEEING HOW HE THREW THAT KID OFF THE STAGE. ALSO WHY DO THE DARK SKIN BROTHERS ALWAYS GO AND GET A HIGH YELLOW CHICK TO STAND BY THEIR SIDE? COULD THAT BE BECAUSE THEY WOULD NEVER GIVE A BROTHER LIKE HIM A CHANCE IN HELL IF HE WASN'T FAMOUS?
No one would know that those girls are latino had MTO not mentioned that. However, we still don't know that these women are really latina, they could be black or "African American". How can anyone tell what they are just from looking at them.
Apparently, only "African Americans" and blacks directly from Africa have a right to be called blacks. African Americans alienate themselves when they arbitrarily determine that latinos are a race and that they are not black. There are double standards. It's like if you are black and speak Spanish, that automatically disqualifies you from being black. If you are black and speak English, this somehow makes you "a real black brutha". Some black latinos say they are not black in large part because of African Americans. Why? Because when you are black and coming from Guatemala, Brasil, or any other latin american country, the first thing African Americans say is, "You ain't black" or they call you "Spanish boy/girl" or whatever.
African Americans automatically push away as if to say "You are not one of us." It's even affected American latino lingo as latinos often say "los morenos" when referring to African Americans. Black latinos in Latin America are often referred to as "morenos" which simply means brown skinned person. I am a moreno. However, in the United States, I can't refer to myself as "moreno" because for American Latinos, only African Americans are morenos. Why? Because African Americans have hammered it into the heads of black latinos and all latinos that only they(African Americans) are the true blacks or have a right to be called black. Now when some of us(latinos) say we're not black, the African Americans then say, "Oh, he/she knows he/she black". You just can't win or please anybody it seems.
As others have correctly stated, Latino is a culture not a race. Much like the West Indians have their culture but don't cease to be blacks necessarily. Arbitrarily calling Latinos "Non black" is so divisive and so ignorant. Even American white people accept White latinos from Argentina and Uruguay as "white" people because they are beyond this "you can only be white if you are American and speak English" crap.
People like SexyBrown are very divisive and do more harm than good. Do African Americans really need more enemies?
@ Brown "The proof is in the pudding.. Black men are colorstruck.. He is the only race of man who feels he has officially made it when a woman of another race will accept him into her bed, especially if it is a white woman.. "
You know this to be true because why? The BM you see have gf's or wives of another race? I date whomever I like, and I have dated almost every race. There is no "I like white women because they are easy" in my mind. I don't think to myself "She is pretty but she is black so I won't date her".
I suppose it is an American Black idealism behind this because no other country acts like this about race. Jamaica, Africa (HELLO there are white people born and raise there LOL), Germany, Europe in general are more open to interracial dating. I suppose if you stay within the confines of this country you will never know the joys of loving for the joy of love, not for color.
@ youkiddingright:
Have you noticed that these women (and I don't think they're ugly) have some of the exact same prominant facial features of someone like Serena Williamn's (i.e. masculine bone structure) yet these two ladies are considered "fine" and "dimes" and yet people consider Serena (etc.) "ugly and "mannish"? That's weird. Wonder what that's about. LOL!
Again, if you go to any barbershops or anywhere else Serena is considered hot (it really depends on where you grew up). Not every black man likes what the other one likes of course, but she's considered hot when she comes up conversation to the majority.
I see Serena doesn't have a problem finding a boyfriend. What does that tell ya??
Goodmoring STAYPOPPIN01 8-)!!!
I feel you, but those barbershop men must not be the same ones that visit this site (and others like it) because about 90% of the comments I see here are from both men and women have the general consensus here are that she's "ugly" and "mannish."
It's just weird to me that those girls essentially look the same (as I've said before, slightly masculine bone structure) as Serena, yet on here, there's a he!! of a difference on how Serena's beauty is registered as opposed to the two ladies above. That's all. just pointing out things that I'm noticing.
I too, I think Serena's nice looking, so why would she have a problem with finding a boyfreind? It's not really that hard for women, is it?
@ samid77
Yes, the one on the right has some strong features. Her mouth/jaw area & protruding teeth remind me of a dog or something. Skin tone and hair is definitely her saving grace to people who care about trivial traits not related to FEATURES (can we say Mya aka Splinter, anyone?). The one on the left is pretty though, and they both have nice bodies, IMO. Serena's build doesn't help her any; that's part of the problem. She is built like a man with t&a! But you're right... facially, she isn't more masculine looking than the one on the right.
I guess this will be considered a sign of "jealousy" or "insecurity" on my part *sarcastic laugh*
@ Destros
That's because Black Americans seem to think their origin is in hip-hop and basketball! Why else would they consider someone "not Black" or "not Black ENOUGH" whose style and lingo don't fit into the hip-hop world (ie "talk/dress White"). It's an ignorant and self-centered view on the world and shows a lack of identity and pride in their race...
and this is coming from a Black American!
Of course ExcuseMe! Your not allowed to have a negative opinion about another female because that makes you a "jealous hater." LOL!
I think that the masculine part of a Serena's build is her shoulders, she has thick legs but the girl is strong!
I, too, think the one on the left is cuter.
I must be "insecure" and "jealous" of Serena and Cassie because I just said something "negative" about BOTH of them, as well! Man, I'm gonna need to seek some counceling for my "jealousy and insecurity" issues! **sarcasm** 8-D
@ STAYPOPPIN01 said:
The people on this site are just followers. Like 88% of people conform to popular opinion. Only 12% are independent thinkers. Trust me, black men that group up in all black communities and some beyond think Serena is hot, and she is!
I agree, the majority of people (men AND women) are just plain immature to the point to where they can barely think for themselves.
Sunday: "@ Prettylady4life Akon has 4 black wives... this was a magazine cover shoot... in which he probably didn't pick the women he wanted to be on the cover with."
Akon's wives are as Black as those women he's posing on the cover with... so yes, he probably did pick them. That's his type. Hell, look at the 14 yr old he 'molested' on stage.
Anyone can see it a self-hating mentality that promotes the idea that only if you are not my color are you desirable. P.Diddy ONLY uses fair-skinned women in videos and his ads also. Perhaps they feel so much self- hatred they feel they must have a person close to caucasian to "raise their status." How often do we see women the color of Akon/Diddy featured on videos, magazine ads etc.?? Also based on the recent comments of NE-Yo and Young Berg (both implied dark-skinned people were ugly), this is a common way of thinking for some artist. It is very damaging to young Black kids some of whom are returning to skin-bleaching! I recently overheard 2 Black teens saying "nobody wants a real Black girl." The media is very strong! Even with music videos, if the girl is dark we will more likely see her butt, if she is light we will see her face and it is implied she is a prize. These images tell a lot about a society.
Also, "African American" is not a race. It is a culture just like "Latino" is. People are using "black" and "African American" interchangeably as if they are synonyms and that's part of the problem. Everyone should know by now that there are African Americans that are not considered black in other countries. The United States is not the center of the universe and the one drop rule is not a worldwide law. In fact, Latino culture has preserved more African culture than African American culture has. The examples range from music, dress, food, and even language.
@ AMY CRACKHOUSE avitar:
I totally agree, but let's just pretend as if complexes don't exist, because a lot of people don't wanna acknowledge it until it suits their purposes.
But you know one thing I've noticed? When you go on one of the dark-skinned womens' boards (i.e. Serera Williams and others that aren't considered traditional or exotic beauties0), women can make some of the most HATEFUL comments about them, yet no one jumps to call them "jealous", "insecure", "bitterbrowns (WTF! LOL!)" etc. I wonder why that is??? 8-d **BLATENT SARCASM**
@ Lil_Darkmommie:
Your post is so very true (ESPECIALLY the 1st part), but a lot men will continue to deny that because...if they didn't, obviously, that tactic wouldn't work as well. I just wish more BW were as aware as you are.
why people gotta be such haters??? so wat if he's posing with 2 latinas??? he's not ashamed of his race, they just know wats gonna look best. and they happen to be latinas. the only reason i would understand the hatin is cuz he is on the cover of "black man magazine" with 2 spanish women. besides that they look f*ckin hott!! LATINAS STAND UP!!!!!!!!!!!!
@Sexy26 said:
@citababy813 saying latinas=yuck, biotch plz don't hate cuz you ain't latin. I know we the best but I guess everybody can't be blessed LMAO!!! Stop hating cuz ur black men LOVE latin women, it's aight though maybe GOD will make you latin in your next life time LMAO!!!!!!!!
(@Sexy26 and whoever believes that bull***t)The only reason black men LOVE Latinas is because (coming from a Black man) “they will lick the bottom of a shoe if told to do so”. Black women don't go for that kind of BS. Latina women look better? I don’t think so. The so called Latinas I see are straight BUSTED. They walk around with belly fat hanging out of low-rise jeans, dirty flip flops on cheap high heels, badly built and looking 50 years old at 25 years old! “and if Latinos are the best then why do they break their necks tryin to personify “Black culture”
BrownSugar, everything you’re saying is true and the truth hurts that’s why the Black men on here don’t want to hear i!
And btw, Latin men, White men, Asian men, etc. LOVE Black women!
I feel so sorry for the black race. you people will never get along. let me ask a question? why don't you black guys stay with your own race? black guys need to start loving themselves and btw their mothers are black. how do you feel about your strong black mother that carried your ass for 9 months? so sad!!
breaves shoot yourself.
I'm not surprised at this cover ... it looks odd ....part of me said he would pose with these 2 chicks but seeing as though this is a black man magazine um 2 blacks models would've been a better and more fitting look but w/e Akon isn't attractive anyways.
@ MixedHearts "Isn't it amazing that low budget magazine is geared for Black men, BUT when do you ever see Black females on it? It's sad because magazines like these are sending a SUBLIMINAL message that Black women are not appealing or attractive to them. Because why is there rarely a black female on there??? You RARELY see men magazines for white or latino men show other women. Why? Because they love their women and find them beautiful. They obviously don't put "other" women on a pedestal, in comperance to their women. But that's exactly what black men do. On blogs, on black men magazines and in rap videos. For example, 50 Cent,Akon and LL Cool J are the few rappers that showcase black females, and dark ones at that. While the majority of rappers showcase only light skinned black women, or not show black women at all, BUT highlight Brazilian or Latino women. Do you see rockers doing that? Or Latino musicians? Or even Asian ones? NO. People can say preference all they want...But I feel like the gap between black woman and men won't ever close. We have hostility between eachother. It has personally affected me to a point, where I picture my possible husband will be white...Oh,well."
wow ..... I haven't gotten to a point where I think my husband will be white though since I'm not too big on white dudes but I've gotten to where if my husband will be black it probably won't be a darker brotha ... I like all shades but I get the most attention from lighter hispanic men or lightskinned black men (i'm like caramel brown) and darker dudes just don't seem to look in brown or darker chicks directions lately even if she is a looker. I've seen a group of black men more than once not give a beautiful brown chick a 2nd look but fall head over heels trying to surround an avg. looking lightskinned girl....sad and funny at the same time.
But meh the girl on his right imo is pretty but the one on his left eh.
(@Sexy26 and whoever believes that bull***t)The only reason black men LOVE Latinas is because (coming from a Black man) “they will lick the bottom of a shoe if told to do so”. Black women don't go for that kind of BS. Latina women look better? I don’t think so. The so called Latinas I see are straight BUSTED. They walk around with belly fat hanging out of low-rise jeans, dirty flip flops on cheap high heels, badly built and looking 50 years old at 25 years old! “and if Latinos are the best then why do they break their necks tryin to personify “Black culture”
I'm Latina and don't have belly fat hanging over my jeans, wear dirty flipflops or cheap high heels, and last time I checked I definitely am not busted. We don't try to personify your "Black culture." And in case you didn't know, black is in most of Latin countries roots. I'm Puerto Rican and we're essentially a mix of African, Taino Indian, and Spanish. We have our own unique styles of music (salsa, merengue, bachata, etc), our own style of clothes, cooking, everything. Whether the Latina/os you see have been "Americanized" or not has nothing to do with the fact they're Latina/o. It's sad that you can generalize a whole race like that and it's not racism but if a white or Hispanic were to say that everybody would jump down their throat.