: This is kinda silly … but, it’s Tyra … so it’s expected!!
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WHEN will WE as a SOCIETY realize that the GAY lifestyle is RUINING RUINING RUINING our COMMUNITY.
HOW will ever BUILD our youth if we keep wearing TUBE socks on THURSDAY. THIS will continue as long as we provoke turtles to swim in the OCEAN.
I refuse to sit back while this sale continues at MACYS without me. YOU can help REBUILD our GENERATION by refusing refusing refusing to SHAVE ANAL hair until AUGUST. WE will FOREVER be tangled in LIES and LINTBALLS
Trust me. If I could choose to be str8 I would have. I don't think Str8 people understand that. For them it's a CHOICE to indulge in gay sex so it's easy to say that word CHOICE because it's not their normal thing. For a gay man it's not so easy. Trust me I've had some of the prettiest women in the UNIVERSE and it never made me str8. Maybe BI. If it were that easy many guys would do it. It's like a str8 man rewiring himself to be gay. CHOOSING NOT to like women when that's all he knows.
GOD LOVES EVERYONE! THIS IS TO "EYES BROWN." I BELIEVE THAT PEOPLE ARE BORN THIS WAY AS WELL. i BET YOU ARE A GOOD PERSON AND IN THE EYES OF GOD THATS ALL THAT MATTERS." BESIDES, WHAT WOULD WOMEN DO WITHOUT A GAY MAN IN THEIR LIFE TO KEEP THEM FABULOUS! DONT BE DISCOURAGED...YOU ARE LOVED!
WWW.NADYASULEMANSUCKS.BLOGSPOT.COM LEAVE A COMMENT, LET THE IDIOT KNOW TO STOP ABUSING THE GOVERNMENT AND WE ARE NOT FALLING FOR THIS SCAM!
@LevionTajuan and Success_21 you can keep telling yourself that and thats why you will keep having all these closeted DL bisexual men that will continue to infect BLACK FEMALES WITH HIV/AIDS!!!..REMEMBER ITS ONLY A CHOICE!..."ANYBODY CAN BE STR8 IF THEY WANT TO" SMH @ ALL OF YOU!...YOU BLACK FEMALES ARE GETTING WHAT YOU DESERVE!... CAUSE MOST OF YA'LL ARE HAVING SEXUAL INTERCOURSE WITH THE SAME DOWN LOW GAY BLACK MEN and you would rather have a DL GAY BLACK MAN THAN NO MAN AT ALL SO YOU MAKE IT HARD FOR GAY BLACK MEN TO BE THEMSELVES SO THEY HIDE WHO They are for ya'll and society so they can "CHOOSE" TO BE WITH A FEMALE EVEN IF THEY DON'T LIKE IT OR DON'T REALLY WANT TO BE WITH YOU HOES!...AND AT THE SAME TIME INFECTING YOU ALL WITH SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED DISEASES!...
Once again closed mind azz people always thinking because things are easy for them, it should be for everybody! I am sure everybody that is Gay does not want to be that way, hell, and everybody thats gay didnt choose to be gay. I dont know how it happened, its not my place, but I can definitely understand because who would choose to be something the world hates???????????
and folks love to blame black women with HIV on the black dl brotha or whatever the cause when clearly, YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOURSELF! YOU CHOOSE TO LAY WITH A MAN WITHOUT A CONDOM BECAUSE YOU THINK HE LOVES YOU WHEN ALL THIS INFORMATION IS AVAILABLE TODAY.. ITS YOUR FAULT JUST AS MUCH AS THE PERSON YOU GET IT FROM!!!!!
grow up folks, stop pointing the finger, take charge of your own life and stop judging others because I am sure people wonder why you do some of the shyt you do!
@Bluboy.. U betta go in bitch!!!
@ sonnydeejay I hate str8 people that hate gay's...I wish I would see yo ass on the street I would beat the [EXPLETIVE] out of you!!! F*ck that martin Luther king turn the other cheek type [EXPLETIVE]! Im wit Malcom X.. And if a mothaf*cka talk [EXPLETIVE] cuz Im gay then Ima beat they ass. Point blank period!!! Now run up if you tough.... All yall some chomps....And that goes for u bitches too!!!
@eyesbrown, I don't get it. You don't choose to be gay? Do you choose to be bi? You REALLY believe you don't CHOOSE to go back and forth on your decisions? BLU-- You have alot of issues with African American women...why? No one deserves to get an awful disease, that is just plain MEAN and UNLOVING. (We all are sinful and make mistakes, some more then others) WOW!
DANG WHAT DOES THE BIBLE SAY ABOUT BEING GAY!!!!GOD DIDNT MAKE TWO DUDES TO HAVE SEX !JUST NASTY!!
"So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them." —Genesis 1:27
"Do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived. Neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor homosexuals, nor sodomites, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners will inherit the kingdom of God." —1 Corinthians 6:9-10 (NKJV)
THERE U GO
Its not a choice for some. You idiot posters are so homophobic - it sickens me to read this shyt sometimes. If there weren't so much hate in the world, online included. They would love themselves. The problem is really with how they are viewed not within themselves. This show's topic is no different that the black chicks who hated their own skin tone.
whats with the homophobes watching these clips as if they are actually trying to gain a new perspective.my feelings are seriously hurt.WOW.some pretty foul [EXPLETIVE] is said about gays on MTO but today no one is pulling the stops,full out ignorance.but whats with you regulars?the ones who hate homosexuals but always end up commenting on articles pertaining to it.if i hated homos so much id say get the fag off my screen not rush to watch the videos.
Why can't there be a intelligent discussion about this all MSLEE did was quote from the Bible, why does there have to be comments on her looks if in fact that is her? I think her comment is worth looking into, look alot of ppl CHOOSE to do things others don't like or frankly other ppl HATE. So why should we take up the notion that homosexuality is not a choice as well? Is a thief born a thief?
OBVIOUSLY THEY ALL LEARNED TO HATE THEMSELVES CAUSE THEY WERE RAISED BY HOMOPHOBIC PARENTS AND COMMUNITY...so they learned it from narrowminded people like most of you all so-called str8 folks commenting on this topic!...
@cazatuz you don't need to be worried about the feminine gay men...we are the minority in the gay community its the masculine trade you need to be worried about...----its ALL THE MEN WHO APPEAR TO BE STR8 in society that can't get enough of takin dyck and/or enough of a man's azz!...its just the truth...
You people are the stupidest people in the world. Being gay isn't a choice and why is it that you are so concerned with someone's booty hole? Learn some Biology and stop making Black people look like ignorant fools. OMG get a life...and no one cares what some old Shepard and Herder's Book of Mythology says. And if you believe it is true, why are you all going to HELL for judgement!
SH*$^%TTTT!!!!! I don't blame them! If i were a BLOOD-CLOT, I would head towards on-coming traffic full-speed ahead tooooo!! What's stopping those yuckees from committing the solution i just offered!! (Caucasians are known for taking their own lives anyway, especially the males)@@@!!!!!lmao This is nonsense!! Those Fudge-packers are wasting time!!!
This is sad. Not the videos, but some of the comments here. Some folks are so quick to quote the Bible, but forget to look at their own sins.
Where in the Bible does it say it's okay to fornicate before marriage or have kids out of wedlock? Why do we have selective amnesia?
Because it's easier to cast the stones than to take the ones being thrown at us.
What someone does in the confines of their own home and who they love is their business. Imagine if we started saying people with bad weaves and tacky tattoos should be shot b/c they 'choose' to be that way. LOL, there would be a lot more empty pews!
Sad.
Those threatened by someone born gay might be better off examining why it bothers them so much. [SPAM]___________ Born straight but not narrow!
Yeah yall gay bashers are typing very confidently behind your computer screen, but trust it would not go down like that in real life. I PROMISE U! Cuz as soon as u fixed your lips to say something slick, that's when I would pull my short pipe from my coat and knock out all your front teeth... REAL TALK!!! Anyway Im not trippin off u fools... Im about to go get my spa treatment!
MrGatorShoes Flag post Keep big d!cks outta ya mouths and cornhole & practice being manly: you won't have the problem of being a twistyboi. --------------- Pimp‘n the system ain‘t ez.
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You aint shyt.....lol but it's not that easy...They hate "the feeling" more so than the actual "ACT" of being gay...The "ACT" is the result of how they feel....Acting like a STRAIGHT MAN does not ELUDE the feeling of wanting the same sex, nor does it make you attracted to the opposite sex.
Being gay ain't okay. Why are the gay folks on this board seeking some type of acceptance for their lifestyle? Do you. But because it's your choice doesn't make it right. It never has been or will be. If the parts don't fit, you must acquit.
It is always funny that gays are often areligious, because most religions don't accept this crap. These folks need help in the worst way, and it is this same bull$h!t mentality that is affecting/infecting the black community. Remove the downlow h0m0s that are infecting our women and the number of AIDS cases plummets. Gay men make up a staggering 75% of all HIV/AIDS cases in the U.S., and you tell me this $h!t, is acceptable? N!gga please.
lmkia Evolution says we evolved from common ancestors, not as you wrongly put it. And yes I tend to "accept" things of which there is evidence. I do not "believe" in things I must take on faith. Evolution is true, and a basic Biology class will help you to understand it. ------------------------------------------------ lmkia, you are really talking out ya a$$. Have you even read anything about Darwin's theory on evolution, or are you just spouting off the sh!t they sold you in grade school? If you have then you will know, that many of his hypotheses are not based on concrete data, but rather "faith" and presumption. Go educate yourself.
@LouisvilleSlugger Promiscuous people in general have higher rates of STD's...so ur telling me that since homosexuality is not acceptable because of HIV/AIDS rates in the gay community...then promiscuous people who have heterosexual SEX should not be accepted either since the majority of str8 folks have some sort of STD...
[SPAM]4u2 LOL you are funny...but no I am not gay, but maybe one day, from what everyone is saying, I will "change" that. I am not lost or turned out. I don't what you mean by "spirit" is tormented, but if you mean what do I do when I am feeling confused, stressed, upset, I DEAL with it in various ways, but I tend not to talk to imaginary friends.
lmkia So I guess by your logic since lesbian couples make up the least amount of HIV/AIDs contraction, it is acceptable?
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Lesbians aren't okay either, BUT they are not the ones infecting our community! It is those gay/downlow men! I am not here to judge anyone, but I do have an opinion, and the facts speak for themselves. If you don't like the stats, take it up with the CDC.
then promiscuous people who have heterosexual SEX should not be accepted either since the majority of str8 folks have some sort of STD...
---------------------------- Good point...but I wouldn't say majority....I can say I've never had any std of any sort....Thank god!...and Im straight....well unless I can hook up with Angelina Jolie....lol
LouisvilleSlugger Flag post lmkia So I guess by your logic since lesbian couples make up the least amount of HIV/AIDs contraction, it is acceptable?
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Lesbians aren't okay either, BUT they are not the ones infecting our community! It is those gay/downlow men! I am not here to judge anyone, but I do have an opinion, and the facts speak for themselves. If you don't like the stats, take it up with the CDC.
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So, you dont think being gay is cool because of the risk of catching AIDS, or because of moral reasons????? *confused look* lol
LouisvilleSlugger
I am talking about the Scientific Theory of Evolution. Darwin was the original scientist that brought forth this theory, but scientists have taken the theory further than he ever did. BTW I am currently getting my Masters in Physics, so I won't go into it. Read, and learn for yourself.
@All the n!ggas mad at the numbers!
Gay men are far and away the leading demographic infected and susceptible to HIV/AIDS. These are not my numbers, these are the CDC's. According to them, gay men have the highest instances of AIDS at 75%. Blacks as a demographic make up 45% of the total AIDS cases. Openly gay men account for 53% of all NEW infections of the AIDS virus. Not total cases, NEW cases. The numbers speak for themselves.
@slugger You are pretty correct in your post. Gay men do make up the largest portions of aid cases and lesbians make up the least. The reason for the large demographic of them having it is the fact they use the least amount of protection. Plus they tend to be more promiscious than other factions of the population.
I'm not saying all gay people are wh*res or all straight people are not wh*res. It's just based upon the research that has been done.
STUPID AZZZ NNNIIIIGGGGAAAAAZZZZ ZZ
Did you choose to be straight? Could you choose today to start liking your same sex?
Then why do you think that they can. Niiiiiggggaaazzz love to not know [EXPLETIVE]. It's already public knowledge that being gay is not a choice. Kids kill themselves every day becaus ethey dont want to be gay because of stupid azzzzz nigggggazzzz like yall, who will read mediatakeout but refuse to pick up a damn book or newspaper
@tika90
When your actions result in the death of possibly yourself and others, maybe you need to choose alternative actions. I guess carnality sometimes trumps common sense, possibly. SMH
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lmkia Flag post LouisvilleSlugger
I am talking about the Scientific Theory of Evolution. Darwin was the original scientist that brought forth this theory, but scientists have taken the theory further than he ever did. BTW I am currently getting my Masters in Physics, so I won't go into it. Read, and learn for yourself.
--------------------------------------------- What a coincidence, I ALREADY have a Masters degree in Microbiology. And plan to start in the PhD program at Emory in the fall. We did a case study about the AIDS epidemic. So where does that leave us?
BTW here are a few books I highly recommend you read:
Thank God for Evolution: How the Marriage of Science and Religion Will Transform Your Life and Our World.
The Dimensions of Evolution
Educate yourself and good luck on your masters.
lol @ this idiot for setting a deadline for being gay. What kinda confused ass shyt is that? Tyra need to quit with these stupid ass shows. If these mofos don't wanna be gay then stop sucking and taking d!ck up ya a$$holes. Obviuosly you like it if ya keep doing it ole dumbasses...and these silly ass woman need they ass kick for fuccking with some gay ass dudes. No real woman in her right mind want a fruity ass nicca who prolly get poked in da ass more than she do. That is NOT sexy!
@Fannyboo a str8 person wouldent hate their sexuality because they dont feel like they are doing anything wrong . and dont blame lesbos r homos 4 geting infected with anything u infect your self i think its ur responsibility to get tested with ur sex partner and if u dont trust them r ur self use a condom @DontBiteMySwag lol gay people dont do push ups? and people that say they are making them self that way even tho they hate it your right but still we all fall to temptation and urges we know we shouldent be doing alot of things but yet we dont stop and just accept it @MrGatorShoes its more than just acting "manly" and trying to froce your self to be str8 the guy thats married to the girl he still has the urges and is attracted to guys still. humans are animals of habbit i think with some perfesional help mayb they can kick the habit. i dont suport people who are gay but i dont bash them either but i can understand the feelings must be really strong cuse they are gay people here in barbados and its really not accepted here. it can be harash imagine bein ggay in jamacia r something but yet they do it the feelings towards men must be really strong . you are what u are i guess u cant make a lion eat fruit so hey
AH look at all the closeted gays jumping on a chance to join in on the self hate. I garauntee that the majority of people trying to bash gays are the main ones fantasizing about the same sex. Please, why do you care so much? Why post all the negative comments. Your silly ass words don't mean anything except it might make you feel better. Do you feel like you doing something for the community by your silly ass comments. Go be a mentor or read a fcking book...yeah something useful.
@louisville slugger
Actually black women make up the most new AIDS/HIV cases. Why is because they are the most promiscious. If it was based soley on DL men, then that means they are getting it from the white and black gays. YOU DO THE DAMN NUMBERS! We all know from MTO they aint fcking with white men. Think about it.... blacks are a small minority in the US. Add to that the few DL men. Now if DL men are getting HIV from gays, then obviously they are spreading it to themselves so WHY ARENT GAY MEN THE HIGHEST NUMBER OF NEW CASES! It is specific to black women......educate yourself people
LouisvilleSlugger Flag post @tika90
When your actions result in the death of possibly yourself and others, maybe you need to choose alternative actions. I guess carnality sometimes trumps common sense, possibly. SMH
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@toussaint
Let me guess....Ur either gay, bisexual, bicurious or have people close to you who are gay. I have nothing against you either way, yet it is not commmon knowledge that being gay is not a choice. People go back and forth on this all day long and their is not 1 set answer now. As opposed to everyone knowing that in the summer the sky is blue.
Everyone has their own opinions on this subject.
As a gay man with no shame or self-hatred I have lots to say.
To mslee2324... It's good that ur using scriptures, but I doubt if calling urself the "Baddest B****" will qualify you as a "Good Christian"!!!
To all other STR8 people... Unless u r gay, have been, tried it and swithced back- u can't tell a gay person about choices they made or how they were born. It would be like us telling you that you were not born str8, u chose that. Then that would mean that u were born gay right (just think about it)!!!
BTW... stop acting like gay people are the only ones who have anal sex. Lots of u so- called Str8 men would not hesitate to stick ur girl in the booty, and lots of u chicks are down with it.
We are all sinners, and no sin is greater than another. It's God who decides who gets into Heaven, NOT US!!!
The problem is that, African American always need a scapegoat for why shyt is fcked up. Look at yourself. C'mon now this was 3 silly ass white boys crying for attention.
And all you bible quoters. USE your damn empty ass heads... The word homosexual wasn't even present back then, so it is ironic that it jumped in the bible during the "NEW" testament. A little more education for you fools. God says place no one or nothing above him, but yet you worship the scripture... I see a lot of blasphemy in here!!!
@DealBreaker
Let's deal with the damn facts! Take yo a$$ to the CDC website and do a little search. My numbers are based on their numbers. That is the Center of Disease Control if you didn't know. Where are your "facts" coming from? Let's keep the discussion honest. You might not like their findings, but it is what it is. If you don't like it take it up with them.
LouisvilleSlugger Why would you recommend a religious book to someone who isn't religious. Are you trying to convert me? LOL. Please feel free to recommend scientific books, though. But I will share two "scientific" books for you that you may have already read: Evolution by Jean-Baptiste de Panafieu and Evolution: What the Fossils Say and Why It Matters by Donald R. Prothero BTW what is your dissertation on?
IMKIA: I am college degreed and anyway Biology which is one of the classes I took which expanded on the theory of Evolution does state that we all started off as an amoeba and then evolved all the way up to human and on the way came from apes. These days science and evolution go hand in hand. The question still remains the same
@slugger and deal You'll are both correct in your assesments. Women (especially black women)are definately the highest newly infected cases yet the gay population holds the highest number for overall infection. Both of you guys are right.
They reasons for these numbers can be debated. The facts remain that most of women new cases come from men. Which leads you to believe that if the male population numbers are not growing by the steam women numbers are with HIV/AIDS then it's coming from a third source. Possibly gay men who pretend to be straight and/or straight men who pretend they are not gay.
I know that sounded like I daid the same thing twice but I didn't. To rephrase it could come from DL men(especially black ones) or gay men who only sleep with women so people won't think they're gay.
Since when does everybody got to know that you are gay anyways, now I do think that homosexuality is an abomonation, but I can't judge, for the purposes of same sex benefits I can see but why does everybody need to know you are gay. As a young lady said on an earlier thread, marriage is a club, some clubs you can get in and some you can't, you can't go on changing the rules of the club when it was specifically designed with the purpose of man/female. Let's be honest, the first thing someone thinks about when someone says that they are gay is the fact that they are sleeping with the same sex. Who cares? I don't, it's gay people everywhere but you don't here me going around everywhere saying i'm Black or Straight because it's obvious. You weren't born that way, it's a choice so stop using that american way of making excuses for your choices.
HIV specific to black women bc of promiscuity?! WHOA! Are you aware that there are alot of ppl that don't even disclose that type of information let alone go to the doctor. It is common knowledge that men don't go as often as they should and with the stigma already attached to homosexuality and being AA COMBINE the two and you have to agree numbers don't match up.
@suprsoul i use 2 agree with u about the conscious r subconcious thing i think some people chioce to be gay but he others that say they ddident. y would the feelings be so strong its like frocing ur self to love some 1 the feelings wouldent be so strong 4 them if u get wat i mean. and i mean iam at lost of words when i see fem gays and stuff i ask my self y would they do that 2 them selfs cause my sociaty dont accept gay people if it was a chioce i doubt they would want chioce to do that are be secure enough to do it ur mostly only sure and secure of things u do when it comes natualy but i really dont kno .. i think i would have 2 experience it to fully understand. @DontBiteMySwag LOL i think hes asking u out 2 ! lol
I do agree it's a choice, I have homosexual family members that will say the same. They go from bi to homosexual back to bi back to homosexual. Alot of homosexuals/bis I have asked just admit that they are "greedy" Matter of fact I have never met anyone that is homo. that have said it is not a choice.
Fannyboo Thats the dumbest mess ive ever heard. Do staight people say we hate bein straight? Hell No!
HMMM... i learned a lot in da pass few yearz. if a person got natural emotions and sex attracion 4 da same sex, no, it dont mean they hate it. becuz dats like self hate, yeah. its moe like blacks who hated bein blakk becuz all da wites hated em. an sum wonted to BE white like in them movies imatation a lyfe. its not that dey hated they own black skin they had, no, they hated cuz them people wuz killin em cuz a dat. if they could change theyself um shur they wuld. people jus mean to em.
PEACE
@lmkia
Science and religion do not have to be mutually exclusive. The books I recommended were not religious per say, but give possible hypothesis on how the two subjects are not totally disjoint. My dissertation was on the Eukaryotic translation initiation factor 4GI and p97. Don't do yours on this...save yourself a lot of headaches.
LouisvilleSlugger,
I agree they aren't mutually exclusive, but I do not need to try and merge them together. I am not religious, so for me to introduce a creator in any theory, isn't in my scope. But I will check them out for GP. And no I looked up Eukaryotic translation initiation factor 4GI and p97 and I doubt very seriously I would touch it with a ten foot pole. OH MY.
"All u men on here who say being gay is a choice are in essence saying that YOU "could" be GAY with a guy ur attracted to...same with u females...that means you have been attracted to the same sex but just "CHOOSE" not to act on it!..."BLU
One can find another person of the same sex attractive. Women say it all the time, she is pretty. And I will say it beauty is pretty. Doesn't mean I PONDER on it, or covet them. It is when you let you mind PONDER over it that makes you want to try it. That is where the choice comes in.
Being gay is not I repeat is not a CHOICE!! The choice a gay person has in the matter is whom they choose to sleep with, that's where the choice lies. No I do not believe that gays are born gay since it is not genetic but one thing I do know that the attraction for the same sex begins early in life so how can a man/woman choose to be gay as a child? This should not even be a debate, if you're a happy and productive citizen in society, and you love life whether gay or straight, then live ya life. No sin is grater than the other!
OMG...GTFOH...This is the dumbest ish I ever seen, saw, or heard!!! And you dumb hateful mutha pluckas don't make it any better. The only reason these dudes hate themselves (if any) is because that's what this hateful, spiteful, hipocritical society teaches! But Fuuck society be your own damn person, everybody is not gonna like or love you either weay it goes so why hate yourself? It's stupid..
Big Pink Lips,
I can fing people of my sex beautiful, they same way I find a Coracias Caudata beautiful, but I don't want to have sex with them. A gay person finds someone of the same sex, sexually attractive, without pondering.
Are you saying that if you think about a beautiful person of the same sex too much, it will make you want to have sex with them?
Interesting (in terms of YOU).
DAMN LOOK AT THESE SWEET [EXPLETIVE].
MY RN AT MY COLLEGE WUZ GAY. HIS ROOM ALWAYS SMELLED LIKE A DIAPER DISPOSAL FACILITY. JUST NASTY.
THESE FAGS NEED A TETESTERONE INJECTION OR SOMETHING.
BUT HONESTLY ONE OF THEIR PARENTS WUZ PROBABLY GAY TOO AND ONE OF THEIR CHILDREN CAUGHT IT. THAT'S HOW GOD WORKS. THE MISTAKES OF ONE MAN CAN MESS UP YO WHOLE FAMILY LINE FOLK.
ASK ALL DA FAGS IF ONE OF THEIR PARENTS WUZ GAY ALSO.
I am saying if you ponder on any sin too long you will commit it. How do you think a thief becomes a thief, he is not born that way. That in no way means I am a homo. if you wish to take your mind there be my guest, I ain't mad at cha, and won't argue that point with you. I love when ppl have a problem with their point and so they resort to bashing. The thing is you expanded on BLU's point and I explained further. That's all.
@lmkia,
That would make you very, very wise. Don't make your life any more difficult than necessary. Remember this is two years of your life.
As for me, there are far too many things which can't be explained away and relegated to mere chance and science can't come close to explaining. If I can believe in some random person's unproven hypothesis or presumptions on the unknown, in my opinion, it is not too far of a reach to believe in a creator of all of this including the unknown.
@jay 0.0 *stops playing match maker* @ kane4967(BIG PINK LIPS LOL) am not exactly religious either i think the bible is to intolerable and it contradicts its self. christains can be to judgemental and the bible is 2 strict for me case i am open minded and aceepting i think the bible need modernising because its very conflicting with today (4 giveme i dont want to offend u ) but i think the bible has some ignorant stuff in it but i guess its my own ignorants for not understanding
Big Pink Lips,
I wasn't bashing you at all. I understand what you mean in a way. If I harp on financial hardships, and think about how much better it would be if I rob a bank, then I start planning to rob a bank, then yes there is a possibility that I may try. This may or may not take place for many reasons. I might be more afraid of getting caught and facing the repercussions. But I am disagreeing when it comes to sexuality. No pondering can make ME attracted to the same sex. So if I use myself as an example, I would have to "convince" myself I like the attributes of the same sex. I am saying without already having an attraction initially it will not work. So my question is will it work for you? Can you "Make" yourself attracted to the same sex? It does say something about you. If yes, then you have proven your point.
Make myself attracted? I think ANYONE can be attracted to ANYONE, as mentioned earlier women say it all of the time, some men do too. How many times have you said it? But to have sex with them, or to want them in a sexual way... I believe if one PONDER'S on it, yes it can happen. As we spoke about earlier the thief becomes a thief bc of the same reasons and a fornicator and an adulterer as well. I EXPECT BACKLASH FOR THE FORNICATOR CONTENT.
LouisvilleSlugger
I tend to go with the principle of Occam's razor. And just because there are things unanswered doesn't mean the default is a creator. Think on how much more we know than our ancestors of biblical times. Questioned are being answered all the time. But adding a creator actually adds more questions for me, unending ones. And even if there is a "creator" is his the Abraham's one, or perhaps Zeus'?
I am sorry Big Pink Lips, but I disagree with you completely. By your own admission, a gay person can them make him/herself attracted to the opposite sex as well. Maybe in your family, (which would give some evidence it is genetic)but many of the homo and hetero people I know cannot will themselves into another category. But those are your experiences and I give you that. Also you are comparing crimes to sexuality, and I realize this is because you deem it a crime agaisn't your god. But for those who don't share in your religious views, homosexuality isn't a crime.
jay78 lol see y i aviod gay people they think they so clever lol i kno where i stand no 1 can change that lol eventho some try. but some gay people are cool tho we have alot in common EXPECT the sexuality thing but they r pretty open minded. great for a conversation because they r so diffrent n i like thokno others peoples point of view. only thing i have against gays especialy where i live they would think ur gay just because u would talk to them cause 95 pecent of str8 bash them anyways so i cant b str8 n talk to them lol need to get that stigma out their heads
@Bajan
Correction... I don't think it makes you gay because you are secure enough to hang around gay men at all. I just don't want u thinking that any gay man has the power to trap you.
BTW... Most homosexuals are the biggest homophobes. So anyone who chooses to beat or kill someone because of that person's openeness about his/her sexuality, is only trying to hide theirs!!!
@slugger @deal @donthatemyswag
THE CDC STATES: The term men who have sex with men (MSM) refers to all men who have sex with other men, regardless of how they identify themselves (gay, bisexual, or heterosexual). In the United States, HIV and AIDS have had a tremendous impact on MSM. Consider these facts:
AIDS has been diagnosed for more than half a million MSM. Over 300,000 MSM with AIDS have died since the beginning of the epidemic. MSM made up more than two thirds (68%) of all men living with HIV in 2005, even though only about 5% to 7% of men in the United States reported having sex with other men. In a 2005 study of 5 large US cities, 46% of African American MSM were HIV-positive. Since HIV/AIDS in MSM was first diagnosed 1981, gay and bisexual men have been leaders in dealing with the challenges of the epidemic. Gay organizations and activists, through their work, have contributed greatly to many of the guidelines for prevention, treatment, and the care of people living with HIV/AIDS.
For complex reasons, HIV/AIDS continues to take a high toll on the MSM population. For example, the number of new HIV/AIDS cases among MSM in 2005 was 11% more than the number of cases in 2001. It is unclear whether this increase is due to more testing, which results in more diagnoses, or to an increase in the number of HIV infections. Whatever the reasons, in 2005, MSM still accounted for about 53% of all new HIV/AIDS cases and 71% of cases in male adults and adolescents.
IN ESSENCE THE MALE HOMOSEXUAL POPULATION STILL HAS THE HIGHEST INFECTION RATES, THUS LABELING THIS HORRIBLE DISEASE A "GAY DISEASE" IN ORIGIN.
@ BIG PINK LIPS ur sayin its a crime and people choose to do it sayin crime is a bit harsh but i dont suport it either. so u think every 1 thats gay are bad people 4 being gay r they arnt any genuienly good gay people because they all choose to be gay. am sure they are gay people who try to live the morally right life everything they do is good they have the same temptations as we do to cheat, steal, curse, cause damage to our bodies (drugs) but yet they dont fall to those temptationswhich can be pretty strong so y do they fall to being gay ? which is wrong also dont u think its cause they were born gay.
@BAJAN I never said I think homosexuals are bad, you don't see me calling them expletives or anything like that. Neither did I say they don't have the same temptations, we just happen to be talking about this subject, so that is what I am commenting on. It all depends on who you think it is a crime to. We all fall to temptations, but that's what is it a temptation. I BELIEVE A PERSON CAN CHANGE. (That's what this is all about making choices)
You are missing my point completely. When I say society deems what are crimes, I am talking about the laws in my country, your country and countries all over the world. We as society make those laws. You shouldn't assume anything is OK just because somewhere it is OK. No one is saying that! There are going to be thing legal in some places, that I feel are morally wrong, so what is your point? And how does the molestation of a child, the abuse of an animal in anyway correlate to two consenting adults engaging in sexual acts?
@ PINK LIPS mm ur still a pedrophile even if u havent commited the crime ur attracted to lil boys n girls. i think its sad that we have 2 wait till some1 destroys a young childs life before u can get them off the streets. they should still b charged even if they dident do the crime just like some 1 ploting to kill some 1 and what would u think of a person if they decided to be gay that they r insecure r weak wat do u think would push some 1 to be gay even tho it would b such a harash life ?
i watched the episode about there issues they have being gay. For all of you who wish to be ignorant, you can do that all day long cause thats just the way you are.I just want to comment on some of the statements. Its not a choice that "We" make to get gay. YES I GET DOWN!!! You cant turn a switch to be straight it something that your born with and realize as you get older. I'm sure a lot of gay people would turn straight if they could only to be accepted. Acceptance is what ALL gay people want. (mslee2324) dont judge gays just wait on your judgement day and hope you go to the right place "Amen" (Rairaib) where do i start from your default pic with the d!ck sucker you know what you are LMAO
This is the one of the reasons why there are soooooooo many DL brothers today. They are afraid to be themselves out fear. They fear that people won't like them or accept them. They fear being bashed. They fear that their families and friends will stop loving them because of their "choice". They believe that society hates them, so they hate themselves. Not knowing that if they weren't gay, people would still think of reasons to talk about them.
SMH- Like I said to some homosxl is not a crime, to some pedophilia is not a crime, to some bestiality is not a crime. That is society for you. That is the point. Just because it NOT a crime to you doesn't mean it is not a crime. They can be equated because they all are willfully committed. *BTW this kind of discussion with you is fruitless didn't you say you believe basically in SCIENTIFIC FACT* And if that is the case, science should make you ask yourself what would be the purpose of the evolution( as you believe) of homosexuals. Aside from the fact they are obviously human.
!@jay78 its a vicious cycle ur right they r alot more gay/bi ppl than most ppl kno because of the DL factor people want to say being DL ramps up the HIV thing which is true but the reason they r so many DL is because they wont be accepted anyways by the same sociaty that blame being DL ramps up the HIV rate thing .communication is everything lies and hidin makes things worse i wouldent blame some1 for being on the DL if ppl going to ostrocise them 4 being gay
As a young lady said on an earlier thread, marriage is a club, some clubs you can get in and some you can't, you can't go on changing the rules of the club.
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that is a DUMB thing to say as an african american!! dont u think voting used to be a club only for white people? the preisdents were a club of white men. interracial marriages never used to be in the 'club' either. stupid argument.
personally, i was born gay. you could give me a million dollars and i'd still never get turned on by a vagina. that's just how it is!!! no choice involved
Big Red Lips What are you talking about? Beastiality is a crime because the animal is a VICTIM. Molesting a child is a crime because the child is a VICTIM. What are you not understanding? Homosexuality is a victimless act. So how is it a crime in society? Religious people want to think it is a crime because some Book tells them it is. But who is the victim, your god? He/She/They/It should be big enough to take it. How about we say I willfully hugged my son this morning. Should it be in the same category as beastiality? Uhm you want me to answer what was the benefit of homosexuality. Huh? I do not know! Not my field, I can guess that it may be a mutation or maybe not. I suggest you read Biological Exuberance: Animal Homosexuality and Natural Diversity. You will see all species, reptiles, Mammals, etc on earth display homosexual/bisexual/asexual behavior. Did you think it was just humans? So yeah dear, it kinda does give more evidence for evolution Google That!
@jaxon204 i see ur point . but where is the line to be drawn? i might contradict my self here since am not 2 religious but refering to the bible but marrage is supose to be a holy traditional thing tru god but slavery was just mans greed i could b wrong but i dont think the bible said hey go make some 1 ur slave so thats y slavery could be change cause slavery was tru mans greed nothen sacred about it. i am split 50/50 on gay marrage i think u shouldent prevent any 1 from being happy but u have to draw the line some where .
@Bajan
If a person wants to hide their sexuality from others that's their business. Everybody's situation is not the same and some gay people don't have supportive friends and family like me. I just don't like the way that DL brothers lie to women and play with their hearts. At the same time women have to be more responsible for their lives too. I feel that it is not right for you to possibly mess up somebody else's life because society does not accept you. I think DL brothers should grow tougher skin, accept who they are, and leave women out of it. But ladies, keep your eyes open because there are clues.
homosexuality is not a choice... who the hell would choose to be gay? people are born gay. now, practicing homosexuality is a choice just like practicing heterosexuality or bi-sexuality.
i may not agree with homosexuality, but that's only because i'm straight and cannot fathom wanting a dude, but does that make me better than a homosexual? nope. they can do whatever the fuk they want to do just like you and me.
and for the chick who quoted the bible, the only problem i have with that is the fact that it's just a book put together by regular men... so many books were left out, so it's credibility is a little shaky in my opinion. and that's coming from a believer in God.
Big Red Lips Just because I cannot answer that question means nothing. I am not ashamed to admit I do not know what causes homosexuality in life forms, and neither do you!!!! But I accept that there are those much more intelligent then I studying this issue. Also you can play/be a victim all you want. But I am not a victim because of homosexuality.
not_1_2_hate Flag post homosexuality is not a choice... who the hell would choose to be gay? people are born gay. now, practicing homosexuality is a choice just like practicing heterosexuality or bi-sexuality.
i may not agree with homosexuality, but that's only because i'm straight and cannot fathom wanting a dude, but does that make me better than a homosexual? nope. they can do whatever the fuk they want to do just like you and me.
and for the chick who quoted the bible, the only problem i have with that is the fact that it's just a book put together by regular men... so many books were left out, so it's credibility is a little shaky in my opinion. and that's coming from a believer in God.
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say it again!!!
"and for the chick who quoted the bible, the only problem i have with that is the fact that it's just a book put together by regular men... so many books were left out, so it's credibility is a little shaky in my opinion. and that's coming from a believer in God."
@bajan, yeah but marriage is not only a Christian thing though. Muslims, hindus, atheists all get married and it has nothing to do with the chruch or bible.
noone is trying to force the church to do anything, it's the practice of the state thats in quesiton.
and@ the red lips person, when ppl compare being black and being gay it's obviously the experience of prejudice and not being accepted they are talking abt, not the actual things
I was not going to go on this particular topic as I expected to read a tone of ignorance from black ass folks,..but yall need some real help,..the black community is in need of REAL help, it has to be said that many of our successful bruhs and sisters are running, screaming to the arms of other races as soon as we become successful. It is simple common sense that if someone HATES something,they simply stop doing it. Many of you can clearly see that these men are dealing with a situation that so far more deeper than a "choice". Many of you black ass folks have you head so far stuck up your asses that you cant see your nose in spit for your face, and then have the nerve to sit in judgement of other human beings, when many on here do drugs, have sex outside of marriage,(and many of you have at least 3 basterds / children born out of wedlock), so before you judge, check your own glass house. And further more, many of you bruhs are so hypocritical , walkin down the street,..i am constantly accousted by sooooooo many fellas tryin to get some, and if given the chance they would take me in a dark alley and do me raw and dirty (if i gave them the slightest chance) MANY OF YOU ARE WHHHHHHHHOOOOOORES IN THE STRICT NAME OF THE WORD!!!!!, but then the same nikka will sit in judgment of a young gay man who goes to school, or successful, doin the damn thing as if being straight has made you GOD OF THE UNIVERSE. Nikka what you need to do is immulate these gay nikkas, get a good job, take care of ya body, and represent, cause i have many gay friends, and they are s[SPAM]ooooo fly compared to TRIF ASS STRIAGHT NIKKAS THAT WILL F#$$$$ ANYTHING WITH BREAST AND A WET HOLE. I see thsi everyday in my mother hood, and its sad.
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Fannyboo Flag post Thats the dumbest mess ive ever heard. Do staight people say we hate bein straight? Hell No!
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that was a dumbass statement. lol but i see what you're doing. you're trying to quietly put in the idea that you're straight. lol NAWWWT! lol be happy being a cross dressing male, babe.
@ Slugger
Everything I have stated is fact. But you are correct I chose to state them. It has been documented that African American women has the higher rate for newly affected HIV and AIDS patients. I never stated that they were the majority overall.
@Pink Lips I believe you missed the point. People live and die by what the bible says, when just like a car, house, boat, pair of jeans... the Bible is a man made thing. So fo those who quote all the scriptures that relate to homosexuality are essentially saying the Bible, a man made thing, is the last and final word. Thus going against christianity, which says God himself is Almighty.
@Imkia You have made several vaild points that seem to complex for them to understand when it essentially is as simple as black and white. Kane497 is saying if you ponder on someone being good looking it makes you want to sleep with them...She has got to be crazy. There are women who think Beyonce is very attractive but they do not have a sexual desire to be with her. Sexual attraction is not something that is fabricated. It is natural. It is just that simple. If you disagree think about the last time you made yourself desire someone of either sex. Can't think of it can you, because sexual attraction to one is not a choice.
And to all the sistaz that are being ignorant and quoating the bible,..You are the pillar of our community,..keep living in denial , cause the same ignorance that you spew to your your sons and daughters may one day cost them their lives, as AIDS aint going no where anytime soon honey,..let these gay men be themselves, so they can come out the closet, and we can spot them, thank them for their honesty, and move on to other potential partners that are not "dippin-and-dappin". When we do not allow these men to be honest with themselves, they sho can not be honest with us, and each man you make love to, may be the one that squirt "LIQUID DEATH" in your vagina
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BluBoy Flag post BTW YOU ALL NOTICE THAT NONE OF THESE MEN ARE GAY BLACK MEN...CAUSE OPENLY GAY BLACK MEN ARE THE MOST HONEST WITH THEMSELVES!..
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no, because black people are mostly christians and christians hate gays. so black men would never come on tyra to air their problems about being gay. they'll either just be an unhappy husband who beats his wife, and/or sneaks off to 'hang' with the boys...aka DLing.
@jay78
LOL MY AZZ! I'LL BEAT YO AZZ BOY. I'LL WEAR GLOVES CAUSE U MIGHT B GAY YA DAMN SELF.
WEAK AN LONELY PPL EXPERIMENT WIT HOMOSEXUALITY.
IT'S JUST A CHOICE, BUT IT'S WRONG BOTH WAYS. I'M GLAD TO SEE FEMALES SAYIN THE HOMO LIFESTYLE IS WRONG CAUSE THEY SEEM TO BE LAX ON LESBIANS.
GAY MEN IS JUST PLAIN NASTY: LEVITICUS 10:22
@ betterman.... weak and lonely???/ where the hell did you get this from.... where you once weak and lonely and it took you to that place. Please state something of relevance...
and look here we go again... First we talk about whooping someones ass and then drop in a scripture.. You modern wannabe christians crack me up!!
@DEAL I believe man was USED to write the Bible. It is not man's thoughts. Like I said there is not even scientific proof to support the reason for homosexuality. With that being said I leave you guys to continue the discussion. P.S. And thinking a woman/man is attractive and desiring to be with them are two different things. Like IMKIA said " If I harp on financial hardships, and think about how much better it would be if I rob a bank,then I start planning to rob a bank, then yes there is a possibility that I may try." The same equation to homosexuality. It is a choice.
Betterman: And that attitude may cost your daughter or son his or her life as they lay up all sick with AIDS, after having sex with a female or a man that BETRAYED them in the worst way ( I hope and pray this does not happen and health and love to you and yours ofcourse!!!!) But homosexuality and bisexuality is not going any where, so lets deal with it like adults. Foster and enviroment that these men and women can feel comfortable to come out and be themselves, allowing ALL the right to that CHOICE to sleep with bisexual individuals. AIDS has lowered the playing field, and we can no longer "kill all the battie-bois, and rape all the battie gurlz" * quoating a jamaican dude that i usta know, this old school hateful behavior just shove these people further in the closet,allowing them to be dishonest with themselves and others.So BETTERMAN, next time you slide up in something tight and wet,.....think about the comment you made on MTO, cause condoms aint fool-proof, and she just may have given you the "gift of lies ",..AIDS,...KEEP LIVIN NIKKA,..YOULL LEARN, ONE WAY OR THE OTHER,...
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@ red lips, yeah i gues it could apply to that to.
but dont u think ur acting a lil arrogant, telling me how my thought process was when finding out that i was gay? i can sit and tell you that 'it's not a choice' and you can say 'it is a choice' till we're both blue in the face. but who do u think has the better basis for their opinion? i think i do as an actual gay person myself
Okay,
I beleive in the bible. it says that homesexuality is wrong and I beleive that to be true. If any one does not like my views, I do not give a rats bottom.
Why do gay people not admit that being gay is not natural. If you are a man whom is gay. You still have sperm in your boty that is released during sex that is seeking a vagina to attached it self to an egg to crete a baby. Now that sperm serves no purpose, but yet it still is in your body and still comes out during an orgasm.
You are also beating up another dudes booty whole, which is meant only for #2 toilet purposes. That is very untatural.
I think being gay is wrong for biblical and common sense reasons, because it still does not line up witht the human bodies natural intent.
Why you think they call straight people straight, because being gay is crooked. Being gay is the opposite of straight.
Straight people always holds the trump card, because no matter what gay people may think. They will never be able to create a child from a gay relationship. Nature knows that only a man and a woman could create such a amazing natural miracalous birth.
I am straight, and I love being straight. To all my people to beleive in the bible. Continue doing so, and forget what all these bible hating idiots think about it.
and big red lips: giiiiirl I hope they all come out, so I can embrass them as gay men and women, love them, and move on , this is power,..as I have been allowed the LUXURY OF CHOICE, something many of straight black sistaz have not been allowed in the past, as they lay up all sick and about to die from AIDS. And I am not saying that ALL BISEXUAL PEOPLE are spreading AIDS!!!!!!!!!, but the viris is running rampant in the straight community,..and as many straight latino/ black men that I have known or heard of making that statment " Come on baby, it feels better with out a rubba", Yall should be the first in line to treat our gay bruthas and sistas with love and respect as much as yall like to RAW-DAWG!!!!!! im just being honest,..........(stepping down of my soap-box ,...sitting down cross-legged with my cosmo )
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@betterman dude the bible full of weird stuff ... it also says
exodus 35:2 (6 days u should work work on the 7th day u should b put 2 death).
deuteronomy 21:18-21 (if a mans son is stuborn bring him to the elders and they should stone him)
deuteronomy 22 13-21(stone a girl if shes not a virgin)
exodus 21 20-21 ( u can beat a slave as long as they dont die )
colossians 3 22-24 (promotes slavery)
n lots more weird stuff dont pick n choose what u want from the bible
@DBOSTON...
All sperm is not seeking a vagina to attach itself to or an egg to create a baby. That's why some men masturbate, and some shoot blanks.
BTW... you were pretty descriptive about the beating up another dudes booty hole (not whole). Seems like you been fantasizing. Another dude telling on himself.
And making a baby does not give str8 people no trump card. If it did more chicks wouldn't have to take their baby's father to court for support. And most dudes wouldn't have baby mama drama.
@dboston, i guess you never wear a condom then, since all sperm is designed to find an egg to impregnate.
i guess your girlfriend doesnt use protection or make any long-term career plans, since her purpose is to carry babies. i guess you don't believe in abortions, since that is unnaturally taking a life.
i guess you dont have sex before marriage, because that is a sin. i guess that you don't masturbate either.
if thats all true then i can respect ur opinion. if not you are a hypocrite and using the bible as a shield for your prejudices.
i love that people love being straight, have no problems with it at all. i love being gay. and i dont give a rats bottom about your opinions either since i don't know you. i do care that i get equal and fair treatment like everyone else, though.
and no, gay people in general dont hate the bible, my fam for example is very religious. and we dont always agree. but we get along and they love me tho.
the bible is not the perfect book even tho it says it is atlest 3 times. it promotes slavery its full of war and killing its replusive and intorable and divisive. its a great book but not perfect even tho it says it its. does things sound like it make sense to u juses said if ur eye causes u to seal gouse it out .. if ur hand causes u 2 steal cut it off ... i mean come on great but but not perfect
Not this sh*t again, MTO!
Stop posting all this homosexual propaganda on your site. It's futile. African-americans will not and will never condone this CHoosen behavior. I'm telling you all, caucasians have made their arguments so strong for this cause because it's natural in THEIR race, not in african/american history.
I spit at the thought of a gay black man!
The women, well, their just confused, participating in immoral sexual trysts trying to please TI cause he said "his girl got a girlfriend".
FOH!
I don't think it is a great book. It may have some great words of wisdom in it, but it also has horrific things as well. So as far as I am concerned, anyone who feels it was inspired by their god, then good luck with him. You can have him, cause I am more concerned about us as HUMANS making life better for us and ours RIGHT now. I want my neighbors to be free to love, live, and pursue happiness, and if it is in a homosexual relationship. Then I clap my hands and wish you all well. I could care less about some tyrannical fairy needing me to bow down and sing his praises all day, one who will kill innocent children, condone slavery, subject women to the tyranny of their husbands and fathers. Allow a woman to be murdered if her husband thinks she wasn't a virgin after sexing her. And ya'll bash Homosexuality, huh?
@seaki YOU'RE RIGHT. HOMOSEXUALITY ISN'T GOIN ANYWHERE AND IT'S A TRAVESTY OF WHAT'S GOIN ON IN JAMAICA, BUT WE HAVE TO BE MORE ACCEPTING OF HOMOS. WE HAVE TO GET RID OF BISEXUAL MEN.
BISEXUAL MEN R THE ENEMY. LIKE PIMP C SAID"DON'T B PHUCKIN UP THE PUZZY POPULATION WIT YO SHITTY DICK!" CLOSETED MEN R THE WORST! I RESPECT OUTRIGHT GAY GUYS BUT THINGS R GONNA GET WORSE IF WE DON'T ENCOURAGE PPL OUT DA CLOSET.
ttiiaa77 can't help herself cause she and people like her only use a small portion of thier BRAIN!...WHERE HAVE U BEEN...EVEN IS BLACK MEN ARE ON THE DL...there is nothing but GAY BLACK MEN...U NEED JESUS!...BLACK FEMALES and others ALWAYS THINK THEY CAN SPEW HOMOPHOBIA about gays AND NOT GET WHATS COMING TO THEM!...DON'T HATE CAUSE GAY BLACK MEN DON'T WANT UR CAVE...
IF BLACK FEMALES WERE BLAMLESS GOD WOULDN'T ALLOW ALL YA'll TO BE INFECTED WITH THE AIDS VIRUS...YA'll are just as TRIFLIN' as the SCARED DL BLACK MEN...
lmkia lol there is alot more in the bible that is just plan ignorant but people going around using it has their wepon when they dont even know the utter BS that is in it i disagree with u tho it is a great book because ur uses fear 2 keep people in line and every 1 cant think for them selfs sadly and need to be kept in line . the bible isgoing exactly what it was made to do for alot of people who dont think for them elfs so i guess that makes it a great book
I BLAME BLACK FEMALES FOR CONDITIONING THE BLACK MEN IN THIER LIVES WHETHER BROTHER,SON, or BOYFRIEND THAT THEY HAVE TO ACT A CERTAIN WAY TO BE ACCEPTED by society...
I HAVE NEVER ENCOUNTERED AN OPENLY HOMOPHOBIC BLACK MAN...
just like the BLACK MEN WHO ARE COMMENTING TRYING TO SPEAK AGAINST HOMOSEXUALS even when they try to be homophobic... they seem to ALWAYS be MESMERMIZED BY us GAY BLACK MEN SO they TELL ON THEMSELVES every time...thats why BLACK FEMALES ESPECIALLY TEND TO BE HOMOPHOBIC cause just like ALEXYSS K TYLOR SAID On her YOUTUBE VIDEO...the A FEMALE CANNOT COMPETE WITH A GAY BLACK MEN case closed...and YA'll are mad at all GAY MEN FOR THAT...well get over it GOD MADE US THIS WAY!...LAST I HEARD GOD DOESN'T MAKE MISTAKES...
Some of these comments are just crazy..I had to comment
If being gay is a choice why is it so difficult for these people to be "normal" and be straight?
You do not have to agree or support homosexuality but being rude is not called for.
Doesn't the bible preach "treat others how you would like to be treated"?
Did't Jesus say "He without sin cast the first stone"
Instead of throwing around quotes from the Bible to justify your homophobia some of you guys need to make sure YOUR life is in order.
STRAIGHT BLACK MEN ALWAYS GOT SOMETHIN IGNORANT TO SAY,AND Y'ALL ARE SOME OF THE NASTIEST MEN ON THE ENTIRE PLANET!MOST OF Y'ALL ARE BISEXUAL BEHIND CLOSED DOORS,YOU STRAIGHT MEN TAKE PART IN ORGIES,AND YOU ALL HAVE NO RESPECT FOR BLACK WOMEN.YOU CALL THEM OUT THEIR NAME WHEN THEY ARE NOT ATTRACTED TO YOU,AND YOU SLEEP WITH MEN BEHIND THEIR BACKS AND WIND UP GIVING THESE INNOCENT SISTAHS THE AIDS VIRUS!AFTER ALL THAT THESE SISTAHS DO FOR Y'ALL,THIS IS HOW YOU REPAY THEM.TO SAY THAT YOU HATE GAY PEOPLE IS SO EXTREME,AND GOD WILL DEAL WITH YOU AND THE HATE IN YOUR TAINTED HEARTS!I DON'T TOTALLY AGREE WITH THE GAY LIFESTYLE,BUT NO HUMAN BEING HAS THE RIGHT TO JUDGE ANOTHER,CUZ A LOT OF THE STUFF YOU BROTHAS DO BEHIND CLOSED DOORS WHEN YOUR GIRL AINT AROUND IS HORRIBLE!YOU SISTAHS DONT NEED TO JUDGE GAY MEN.IF ANYTHING YOU NEED TO BEFRIEND THEM SO THAT YOU KNOW WHICH MEN ARE BISEXUAL,CUZ A GAY MAN WILL SURE TELL YOU!YOU BLACK STRAIGHT MEN GOTTA LOT OF GROWING TO DO,AND IT'S SAD TO SAY,BUT MOST OF YOU WONT LEARN UNTIL JESUS RETURNS....BUT THEN,IT'S TOO LATE!
Look its obvious they are tired of the SH*T.
I mean it literally. The males nose was not made to be attracted to FECES..
It goes aginst laws of attraction.
Women and men give off phermones that attract the OPPOSITE SEX..
SH*T IS NOT ATTRACTING UNLESS YOU ARE AN INSECT = YOU BUGGING..
HAHA
Sill Gays
Dix are FOR CHIX! !
@jzzybee and princezzbri, yall both telling the truth. You know these people can't handle it.
@to_hard and all others with the [EXPLETIVE] jokes concerning anal sex...
If you caught a shittly deal that means you were hitting a nasty- dirty butt. And u was just as nasty to keep hittin it. Next time dip and sniff first... lol
And what is this HOMOPHOBIC NONSENSE!! Most of the public don't have to accept Gays if we don't want to.. so for you BATTY-BOIss on here trying to push the acceptance of this lifestyle, quit while you're ahead...IT'S A CHOICE remember!!! SH*$^%TTTT!!!!! I don't blame them! If i were a BLOOD-CLOT, I would head towards on-coming traffic full-speed ahead tooooo!! What's stopping those yuckees from committing the solution i just offered!! (Caucasians are known for taking their own lives anyway, especially the males)@@@!!!!!lmao This is nonsense!! Those Fudge-packers are wasting time!!!
IF BLACK FEMALES WERE BLAMLESS GOD WOULDN'T ALLOW ALL YA'll TO BE INFECTED WITH THE AIDS VIRUS...YA'll are just as TRIFLIN' as the SCARED DL BLACK MEN...
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Wtf?Dude take a seat in the dunce corner.
Wtf is on your brain right now?You're saying God wants us to have aids for being against a sin?
You sound so stupid right now!
For the record, Im a Medical professional and have worked with homo-patients and what pleanty of them tell me? Well, all of them began with some disfunction or abuse as a child.How they have been fondled or molested mainly by family members or an untrustworthy adults. So that is all they know up til their adolescent years when they have learned that the deviant sexual behavior they learned from their elders is very wrong, but by that time it is too late.. These are the types of confessions that are told to me by these people all the time!!! and not to mention they are AIDS cases as well! Each one of these patients have informed me that : they feel their HOMO acts are wrong , but can't help themselves and want to go straight!!!HMMM
@ndigbo...
Wow... You're a professional, but you refer to your patients as "homo-patients".
We can't always go by what people say...
Some say that weed is a gateway drug for all other drugs. And that weed smokers go on to crack, cocaine, etc. when they seek a bigger high. So does that mean that all weedheads will become crackheads. NO!!!
@ndigbo, no offence but i think ur full of [EXPLETIVE]. don't believe a word ur saying on that 'medical profession' stuff lol
imo its wrong to wish HIV on anyone, for whatever reason.. but yeah hating on gays and forcing them in the closet makes it more likely that they will go on to live a lie and get with other men on the DL. thats just how it is! but also, HIV does not automatically equal AIDS these days.. so get tested people!
@JAY 78
SIT DOWN! aahh, i see you have misinterpreted my words and are confused as to the meaning of what i stated. Because you have determined a closeted-gay from what i have stated then i suggest you re-read what i've typed, then come at me again! LACK OF COMPREHENSION doesn't take you far in life Sweetie!lol
For all the ignorant people...If you really knew your history, HIV didnt come from HOMOSEXUALS, it came from monkeys. And secondly, someone always has to throw the bible and some scriptures in somebodys face to make themselves feel better about their own hatred. The bible also says a buncha things about a whole lotta sins that we as people do on a regular damn basis...so stop trying to justify sh*t.
I can't understand how someone who is not gay can proclaim that no one is born gay, it's a choice, and so forth. How do you know? I'm not gay so I can't speak on it because I've never experienced it. True, there are too many try-sexuals out here that do it like it's a fad, but I think there are truly some people who were just 'different' from a very young age. I don't know why, though.
What's coming out more often now than ever before is that boys are being molested by men and older boys. If so, they don't need to feel ashamed about talking about that. We shouldn't make them feel so ashamed that they don't tell anyone if it has happened. There is definitely a lot of healing that needs to take place.
I'm sick of us (men and women) hating and resenting one another. "It's women's fault"... or "It's men's fault"... Why don't we try complimenting one another for a change. That may be hard to do, but it would be a great start.
@ndigbo...
I can't be confused by ignorance because that's exactly what it is IGNORANCE!!!
I think you're confused by your own message because now you wanna say that I misinterpreted your homophobia. But it's like I said, most homophobes are homosexuals themselves...
@forever dope... I can't make you look dumb so why would I try. If people think you're dumb, it may be because of something you said or did pumpkin...
I didn't know that being gay had anything to do with intelligence...
If being gay is dumb... That would make all straight people smart, but then again you're straight right forever dope!!!
I'm not saying, but I'm saying though!!! LOL
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You can't tell me this was NOT said out of sarcasm.
@Forever dope
You have a point
I would have to say that my parents have heavily influenced me
I like to look at both sides of a situation and then draw a conclusion. Many of my viewpoints differ from what the "norm" is.
The fact that I exist makes me part of society..but my mentality is different from others.
Religion and the 'white man'. Do you know where the stories of the bible originated? The Garden of Eden was in Africa. The white man made that up?
I will give you this, the European DID screw up the interpretation of the bible, and many still have it wrong. They used it also as a tool of control.
But I urge you, before you have another conversation about the bible, read it. Completely. It may take a while, but at least you'll know what you're talking about when you do. I recommend you start at the beginning of the new Testament (Matthew, Mark, and Luke are pretty much the same story from different perspectives)
@ foreverDope THanks, the statistics that a certain demographic has an increased rate of ailments(HIV,AIDS,STD's and so forth) publicized by certain organizations by the gov is illegitimate! They do this to scare the public, although one is responsible for their own sexual behavior and the education is available regarding the consequence of ill behavior, don't believe the stats people. For example, they won't expose that certain European countries have HIGH AIDS cases amongst CAUCASIANS but yet the focus is on blacks and Africa!! come on people!! Evidence: There are certain groups of Caucasians in the USA who involve themselves with the act of BESTIALITY (Humans having sex with animals). Also the PROMISCUITY of Caucasians is very HIGH in numbers as well, not just among the blacks. Evidence: Videos like GIRLS GONE WILD and numerous media presented to the public is evidence of their OPEN promiscuity!! Think!!! and their illegitimate stats state Caucasians have the lowest % of ailments amongs any demographic (asians,, hispanics, blacks, and so forth)!! Think people, don't always believe the info they interject for you to believe
Some of ya'll shouldn't interpret the Bible literally. I do believe in a God and Jesus but how much of the Bible is the real word of god. Bibles were written by man who can put their own agenda in them thus doing that they can use it to their advantage. How many versions of one book is their. If it is the word of God why are their revisions and changes. Look how people used the Bible to justify slavery. Sometimes religion can be used like a weapon.
You're right collegebound11. I used to question that all the time. So my curiosity turned to study. Studying the bible doesn't actually constitute going to church or listening to your grandfather talk about it. I like history, so I studied the history of the eras in the bible and modern day religion. What I found were too many things to discuss on this platform. I should probably write a book. But just read it. You don't have to agree with it. But read it so you'll know what it actually means.
If there isn't anything ignorant about an opinion...
I guess it's not ignorant if some white peoples' opinions of blacks is that we're all ghetto, eat fried chicken and don't know our fathers.
I guess it's not ignorant if some black peoples' opinions of whites is that they're all devils, sleep with their kids and smell like piss when they sweat.
So actually, there can always be ignorance in opinions pumpkin...
You have a blessed day though, forever dope!!! LOL.
By the way, I studied the common version, King James. But I understand the language, or better said, what the meaning of certain words are at particular points. It has been revised several times and certain religions have totally different scriptures. For example, Jehovah's Witnesses use a completely different bible, although it's called the same.
Princezzbri
Because that's where maserbation comes in.Lmao!
Come on,isn't boring to see the same sh*t you see when you take a shower or get naked?
Plus you can't really do anything sexually without having to go through horrible pain at first.If it hurt THAT BAD it was obviously not to be done.
Don't trip with the 'it hurts girls on their first time and sh*t' for only a brief while though.
And it's just straight weird.Bleck!
jay78
YOU ARE STUPID!
Yes I said being gay is dumb.That's an opinion.
If I said that gays were dumb I would be trying to state a fact,but I didn't.When whites say that all blacks come from a fatherless home and so on they're trying to state facts which is ignorant.
I am not stating a fact but an opinion,there is nothing ignorant,right,or wrong about an opinion you dumb ass!
And @chelle_bee_kelsFAN
Exactly Stfu!
@ jay78,
exactly. I'm so worn out from debating this issue. I'll see what god has to say when it's all said and done cuz these humans are the biggest hipocrites everrrr. How can a straight person tell a gay/bi person what they are or are not capable of changing? When they aren't even the one going thru it? It just blows my mind! But I'm realizing this ignorance will never go anywhere...
You are mad as hell forever dope... Poor You!!!
Learn the difference between opinion and fact. If there is no proof to support your personal belief (opinion), then it cannot be passed off as a fact. Therefore, no one can try to make something a fact if it is not.
And why I gotta be all these names pop-tart... LOL!!!
@forever dope
Im going to assume by that comment that you are a guy...and if you are then you obviously do not have a vagina. Therefore you have not expirenced the pain of loosing your virginity.
I guess different girls have different expirences but the pain lasts longer than just a brief moment.
But that is besides the point..being gay is not all about sex. What if two guys actually love each other? Who are we to call their lifestyle dumb..what goes on in their bedroom is their businuess.
jay78
Do you still not know what ignorant mean?We CANNOT be ignorant based off of opinions.
ig*nor*ant
1. lacking in knowledge or training; unlearned: an ignorant man. 2. lacking knowledge or information as to a particular subject or fact: ignorant of quantum physics. 3. uninformed; unaware. 4. due to or showing lack of knowledge or training: an ignorant statement.
Tell me when did OUR opinion become part of educational things.
Why do you think I'm calling you all these names,YOU ARE DUMB!
@forver dope...
of course I can't prove it, because being dumb has to do with a lack of intelligence. Like I said before, I didn't know that being gay had anything to do with intelligence (or a lack of).
I hope that you're young forever dope, because the comments you make can only come from the mouth of a babe. LOL
Newsflash people:Being gay is NOT a choice. Do you choose to be straight? Do you think you could suddenly be attracted to the opposite sex on the drop of a dime? Did you wake up and say, "today, I'm going to choose to be attracted to the opposite sex." No, and neither can gay people. Why is that so hard to understand?
WHAT'S SO SAD TO ME IS THAT STRAIGHT BLACK MEN THINK THAT THEY'RE DOING JUST FINE,AND THAT GOD WON'T JUDGE THEM BCUZ THEY'RE STRAIGHT.THAT IS THE DUMBEST THEORY I'VE EVER HEARD!YOU STRAIGHT MEN WILL BE JUDGED FOR SLEEPING WITH SEVERAL WOMEN OUTTA WEDLOCK,JUST LIKE GAY MEN WILL BE JUDGED FOR THEIR ACTIONS.SO WHAT MAKES YOU STRAIGHT MEN THINK THAT YOU'RE OFF THE HOOK?I NEVER UNDERSTOOD THIS!YOU GUYS REALLY BELIEVE YOU'RE OFF THE HOOK,AND BCUZ YOU SLEEP WITH WOMEN THAT YOU'RE NOT IN TROUBLE.YALL DUMB AS HELL!SATAN IS VERY TRICKY,SO DON'T EVER THINK THAT BCUZ YOU'RE STRAIGHT THAT YOU'RE OK!THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS GAY OR STRAIGHT IN GOD'S EYES...SEX IS A DEMON...PERIOD.AND THAT DEMON DOES NOT HAVE A LABEL ON IT.IT'S NOT GAY OR STRAIGHT...IT'S JUST A DAMN DEMON IN GENERAL.REAL TALK PEOPLE!
@forever dope...
Number 4 in the definition... last 3 words, "an ignorant statement"...
You stated your opinion and it was ignorant, thus making it an ignorant statement!!!
You going hard to prove your point, but you losing cupckae. You're calling me those names because you're mad.
I think you need a BIG GAY HUG!!! You too ndigbo... LOL
ForeverDope, you are insulting a whole group of people by calling them dumb. You certainly did bash them because their beliefs and lifestyles are their existence just like yours. Your just as close minded as The Klan especially saying "I'm sure there are some very intelligent, handsome ,pretty ,etc. homosexuals blah blah blah" Dumba$$
Here is what I posted earlier
Okay,
I beleive in the bible. it says that homesexuality is wrong and I beleive that to be true. If any one does not like my views, I do not give a rats bottom.
Why do gay people not admit that being gay is not natural. If you are a man whom is gay. You still have sperm in your body that is released during sex that is seeking a vagina to attached it self to an egg to create a baby. Now that sperm serves no purpose, but yet it still is in your body and still comes out during an orgasm.
You are also beating up another dudes booty hole, which is meant only for #2 toilet purposes. That is very untatural.
I think being gay is wrong for biblical and common sense reasons, because it still does not line up witht the human bodies natural intent.
Why you think they call straight people straight, because being gay is crooked. Being gay is the opposite of straight.
Straight people always holds the trump card, because no matter what gay people may think. They will never be able to create a child from a gay relationship. Nature knows that only a man and a woman could create such a amazing natural miracalous birth.
I am straight, and I love being straight. To all my people to beleive in the bible. Continue doing so, and forget what all these bible hating idiots think about it.
.................................................Some one replied that is not true because some people masturbate and use condoms. I agree. You are reinforcing my point. Masturbation is also a untatural process. Using a condom is not a natural process. That is all I was trying to bring to light.
I was trying to put out that a gay man has healthy sperm in his body, that can create a baby. That sperm is still in his body, even if he is gay. So their is still and heterosexual process that is taking place in his body. I just was bringing to light, that being gay is the opposite of the natural bodies intent.
I do beleive that some people are born with a mental disorder in terms of being gay. These are the people whom I feel are truly gay.
I also feel that they are some people out there whom are sexually confused. They are staight one day and gay the next. We have all come across these confused individuals. They have no clue who they are or what they want in life. Example the subject of this entire posting of the men who hate being gay whom are giving themselves deadlines to be straight.
Good point jzzybee...
I feel for some of you young folks forever dope...
Barely lived life and always saying what you would never do as if you only have 1 more year of life left...
When I was young I said I would never curse, I have the mouth of a sailor. I said I would never drink, but I gets it popping every weekend. I said that I would wait until I met the right girl to have sex, well you see where that got me... LOL.
First of all homosexuality is a SIN...as a matter of fact it's an abomination..No one is born a sinner, we become sinners by CHOICE...One question..what happen to sodom and gomorrah? It was destroyed!!!!therefore it is a choice and if you homos continue to choose to do what's wrong you will go to HELL!!!just like the rest of us who choose to do wrong whether it be stealing, lying and etc...none of us are perfect we ALL fall short of the glory, but however it is still a choice, God did not make adam and Steve, you choose to believe so. And just know this God is a wonderful and amazing God and he does love us all, so therefore he is willing to forgive us all for ALL of our dirty sins, but you have to stop choosing to do wrong.
I'm not saying that your opinions mean nothing. As long as you are human, whatever you say matters (whether right or wrong). I think you just like to argue forever dope...
You keep trying to promote your intelligence, but you're having sex at 14. Then you come on here and have nerve to judge others. Let's just say that we agree to disagree and call a truce pumpkin.
DBOSTON.....man ur ignorance makes me sad evertime I read a post from you.
You and too many other to name the reason why black people are so homophobic. You are one of the reason why people like the people in this video exist. The comments most of you make either is to make a joke or this is really how u feel. People feel like their lives are so bad because they are not wat "the norm" expect you to be...that hatin shyt is getting played.
Half of you where not taught that sex should be had out of wedlock, cutting your hair or shaving your beard is a sin, eating shell fish also....we are taught these things huh? I mean I grew up in the church of christ from a child till I was 18 then I broke free and started to do my own research and realized damn....there are many things my pastors seem to skip over and point out only things they found to be important.
Thats a trip.
Half of these people on here know nothing about the bible just the few things which "people" of their past generations thought where important.
It seems we are all brainwashed. Black people are the worst of them all. We have endured so much in our past but yet we are still so blind.
I asked a lil dude from my hood what he planned on doing in 5 years...this lil dude said "slanging"....wtf?
I asked him why and he said it was the thing to do.
Now black men I wonder why cant we come together to stand up to all the negativity that plauges our community. We would rather bump the lasted cd than read a book to re-educate yourselves. its ok. People are so stuck up in the "swagtastic" era where they just like the us who grew up in the early 80s and 90s...when will this cycle of ignorance end.
REMEMBER IDIOTS....A LOT OF THINGS HAVE CHANGED AND BEEN DISCOVERED SINCE GRANDMA AND MOMMA DAYS. MAYBE YOU CAN RE-EDUCATE URSELF AND THEN RE TEACH MOMMA AND THEM SOMTHING.
I think people blaming gay people actually takes the focus off the themselves and their own issues. A lady in Indiana got married 32 times and is looking for mr 33 but yet people throw the gay community under the bus..wtf?..adn the reason they say so.....the bible tells me so.. So many of us are educated but yet when we speak things come out of ur mouth and it seems pointless for u to even have waisted all that time and money on that education... this is a changing world and u must change with it or be lost.
WHy does the next mans bedroom bother some of you people so much? I DONT GET IT? DO something productive in ur community instead of trying to seperate and taring down another persons life. There are gay people in every race...so we cant get rid of them all...so just deal with it or kill urself.........because times are changing. 2012 pole shift is coming also soon!!!!!!!!! .... ya betta do ya homework...stop spending time dogging folks and get urself together................
ONE MORE NOTE.......WTF DO YALL HOMOPHOBIC FOOLS ....THE SAME CIRCLE OF FOLKS IVE BEEN SEENING FOR A YEAR SAYING THE SAME THING.....ALWAYS TEND TO HOPE ON THE "GAY" THREAD....THIS IS SOMETHING YOU HATE SO MUCH WHY COMMENT SO OFTEN? I MEAN I'LL UNDERSTAND IF YA CLICKED ON THE POST AND POSTED ONE OR TWO COMMENTS IN ALL THIS TIME BUT EVERY TIME THE WORD GAY APPEARS YOU FEEL ITS UR DUTY TO COME ON AND DOG THEY ENTIRE COMMUNITY THAT U HATE SO MUCH...WHY DOES IT BOTHER IT U MUCH? IT HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT KEEPS BRINING YALL IN....A REAL MAN OR WOMAN WHO IS SECURE WITH HIS OR HER SEXUALITY WOULD NOT EVEN WAIST THEIR TIME AND ENEGERY FUSSING ABOUT SOMETHING THEY "HATE" SO MUCH....SMH.
people hate themselves so much because they are constantly being told they are wrong and going to hell...so they live their lives in shame and sadness....and thats sad. put urselves in someone elses shoes sometimes. life is hard enuff as it is.
jay78
So you're basically now being a hypocrite.You're believing that I'm failing at promoting my intellgence because I had sex at a young age?
That does not prove if I have intelligence or not,my actions may be dumb to you but how did you figure I was?
Thought so!
That's what I've been saying the whole time about gays and y'all trying to twist up my words.
And to add to what DBOSTON has said because you really covered it all but I just have a couple more questions to those who don't believe in the power of GOD and the bible whom he inspired man to write, Do you see two male birds humping in a tree? Do you ever see two females lions humping in the jungle? Do you EVER see any same sex animals having sex? HHHHHEEEEELLLLLLL No!!!!! So get with the program Gay people, it's a darn shame animals have more sense then you, and don't have to be a christian or read the bible to know this. just take a real good look at the world, and you will see the truth.
BTW...
To all the men commenting on this story who claim to be str8 and so-called homophobic...
First of all, you're on a gossip sight. I don't know too many str8 men who go on gossip sights.
Second, you're commenting on a gay story. A true "homophobe" would've bypassed this story as soon as they saw that it was about gay men. LOL!!!
And on that note... Everyone have a blessed evening...
damaddblogger............u said .....line all them fags up and destroy them...thats what God did. God sent his messenger "Lut" to tell the fag boys to stop being gay, they didnt listen, so God destroyed them. Read your bible or Quran.
WHO THE [EXPLETIVE] IS LUT???? U MEAN LOT?..THAT LETS ME KNOW RIGHT THEN U ONE OF THEM HAND-ME DOWN INFORMATION NI99AS...DONT JUST TELL SOMEBODY READ SOMETHING........U SHOULD DO IT URSELF! WTF?....
DBOSTON.........DAMN I BEEN TYPIN MY COMMENT ABOVE OFF AND ON FOR AN HOUR OR SO AND UR INSECURE AZZ IS STILL KICKIN IT ON A THREAD ABOUT THE GAY PEOPLE YOU HATE SO MUCH...LMAO....A TRU "TRADE [EXPLETIVE]" NOW CONTINUE AND SAY SOME OTHER OL IGNANT SHYT THAT U "THINK" SOUND SO DAMN GOOD...
LMBAO at all the dumb, self-righteous [EXPLETIVE] using the Bible to justify their HATRED of gays First of all, many of you [EXPLETIVE] need to read the parts about ADULTERY, lasciviousness, FORNICATION, stealing, drunkenness and idolatry.
Don't quote the Bible when it's obvious you don't read it; it makes you look stupid as hell. Furthermore, stop trying to hide behind religion as an excuse for HATING gay people. Christianity does not condone hatred of anyone. God loves ALL of his children.
Funny how all these dumb [EXPLETIVE] seem to be sure that homosexuality is a choice. You clowns are not gay, so how the [EXPLETIVE] would you know whether it's a choice? It's obvious that people don't choose their sexuality; otherwise these men would have CHOSEN to be straight and kept it moving! Damn, [EXPLETIVE] are ridiculous sometimes.
P.S. Many of the dudes on here that claim to hate gays....many of them take it up the ass on the regular, TRUST. And after all, how many straight dudes would frequent a gossip site? I'm jus saying...
ForeverDope I'm just comparing your close mindedness, not the pure hatred and senselessness. Maybe some homosexuals can't see why people want to be straight (although them being the minority and discriminated against I would think that they would think they were in think they're in the wrong), but they probably know straight people can't help being straight, just like most gays can't help being gay (But some cases it might be nurture instead of nature. It's not like I would wake up and say 'damn i want some vagina,' so don't expect the same out of all gays.
QueenEliza
Hm I'm not really too sure if it really says this but this is what my dad told me and I highly doubt he'd lie about the bible because he's VERY religious but anyway he said that God destroyed a whole city for gay actions.
And take note that God put Adam and Eve together,not Adam avd Steve.Lmao!
And the 10 commandmentd aren't the only rules stated in the Bible.
collegebound11
Again I'm about to point this out.THEIR ACTIONS are dumb to me.Not them.I've already admitted a situation I'VE been in that most may find dumb and that is I'm a young teen who had sex but that doesn't prove that I'm dumb.They're actions of being gay is dumb to me but I didn't say THEY were dumb.
Sounds like that black girl on Montel Williams who was ashamed of being black. SMH....
They can't help who they are. Shane sounds CONFUSED. And Tia is another Ricki Lake always falling in love with a gay man.
I do believe that anyone who's determined can live a celibate life until they meet their Prince/Princess.
People can call this self hate but these men are the only ones who know how they feel. Its sad to want to be something else.
I could never imagine being gay and not wanting that life! As a woman I would never enter into an intimate relationship with a gay man. Never. That's setting yourself up for a deep pain and emotional problems for the kids.
LOL @ all the people whose the bible for pulling down and bashing gay people(how ironic a book thats supose to be so pure and should bring people together love ur neighbour like ur self? do unto others as u have them do unto u) next time u dont want to work on saturday take it to work and show ur boss exodus 32:2 while ur at it lol. u dont have to suport homosexuality if it conflicts with ur religion but am sure ur religion never said to bash it even there is 1 judge ur GOD not u. and as african americans who are u to discriminate ? lol plz people open your eyes (ur same bible was the reason u were in slavery btw might wana remember that :)
ForeverDope....the polls shift every 3600 years and thats the end of the 3600 years...no one has lived for 3600 years to tell us what happens but there are many underwater citys they are finding so something drastic will happen we just dont know what. and the gov. does not want this to cause wide spread panic so of course they will not say anything...but just do a little research on it and see what u think.......the mayan calander ends on 2012 also...if ur into that..check it out aight
Hey ForeverDope.......ask ur dad...after Kaine killed Abel and he was sent off to the city of Enoch the bible only says...Kaine went off to Enoch and Married his wife and they had a son Enoch...and build the city of Enoch....ask him where the hell Kaines wife came from?..i been askin pastors and decons and other religious folks but as always...they give me some bvll shyt that sounds good...but Also when u get a chance read Leviticus chapter 20...thats the most famous chapter folks love using to bash out all the gay people...but they fail to see anything else.....but dont just believe what people tell u boo boo do ur own research...the interent is full of lies but there is a lot of truths out there too...use it as a tool to get an understanding.
@QueenEliza
I said nothing like that.Lol!
I know I can't judge that.
And @ Uwillhateme
Um...I can tell you right now I'm going with this older book we call the Bible which is centuries years old than this internet and people who were probably only here for decades.
A new broom can sweep but a old broom know what a dirt is.
And I'm sure the internet has no answers for your questions as well but evolution and sh*t and we all know that's childish.I'd rather go by Bible.
And how come God couldn't have made her like he made Adam and Eve?
Hey man, im not here to argue, im just saying if you believe in the bible then you would know God don’t like fags, if you believe in the Quran, you would know God dont like fags and he destroyed them in both books. If you don’t believe in either book then of course it sounds like sexism, racism, repulsive, intolerance, and just plain ignorant.
ForeverDope.....never said it was the end but... remember that many civilizations before us where whiped out for some reason and scientist are finding several underwater cities we knew nothing of..so just put things together...i mean of course there are many other signs or reasons but.... Remember our past decodes our future...thats all i mean by get urself together. be prepared for things reguardless of what it is.....because we are all worried about who sleeps with who and who did this or that instead of issues that really cause us some concern.
damaddblogger.........LMAO! Damn bruh dont be so closed minded on these folks.
ok so what do u think about these bible verses...
"For everyone who curses his father or his mother shall surely be put to death. He has cursed his father or his mother. His blood shall be upon him." (Leviticus 20:9).......is this in ur king james bible or the Quran?....
what about "If a man lies with a woman during her sickness and uncovers her nakedness, he has discovered her flow, and she has uncovered the flow of her blood. Both of them shall be cut off from her people." (Leviticus 20:18)...... is that in there?...........
oh yeah what about this one..........."Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property." (Leviticus 25:44-45)???
Did you ever wonder where racist, uneducated people in the 19th century got the idea that slaves were just property and not people? Directly from the above verse, which fundamentalists do not, of course, take literally.
"Do not cut the hair at the sides of your head or clip off the edges of your beard." (Leviticus 19:27).........ur a bald man and seems ur edges have been clipped.....guess ur in the same bout with the Gay men and women...
see im not here to justify..i just feel there is no even playing field here. My little sister is a lesbian and I guess after seeing her grow up un happy even though we had a good family up brining with both parents...i hate the way society treats her so thats why i always tend to put my point of view out there...because if i can see past it im sure other people can too.....i dont see the point.
its not contaversial to be straight. It is obvious that the people who are making those ignorant comments have never had a real conversation with a gay person. the same way you dont really have feelings for a person of your gender. Gay people dont really have efeelings for people of the opposite sex. It is how you are born. its easy to live with yourself when you dont have people looking down on you constantly.
ForeverDope said: "They're actions of being gay is dumb," "Yes I said being gay is dumb.That's an opinion" Actions are what a person who they are so your saying their existence is dumb. But like you said, you think being (which is exsiting and living) gay is dumb is YOUR opinion. I don't have to make you understand or accept gays, I'm just stating My opinions to you. Nothing wrong with that, is there?
..........."Your male and female slaves are to come from the nations around you; from them you may buy slaves. You may also buy some of the temporary residents living among you and members of their clans born in your country, and they will become your property." (Leviticus 25:44-45)???
Okay it says the nation around you meaning your own nation.Whites and Africans are not the same nation.
And also with the other things you stated were in the Bible who exactly said those sentences?Was it God?
Don't call me out on any Christianity things because I'll admit to reading the Bible and not really remembering it.
@damaddblogger am sure juses wouldent call a gay man fag .sexisim women were not alowed to speak in some matters in churches and couldent lead anythin.racisim because it promoted slavery because it said its ok 2 beat ur slave as long as he dont die. replusive because it rejects any other point of view (any 1 who talks against the word of the lord should be put 2 death) intolerance the samething. n just ignorant because all the animals in the world couldent fit on 1 boat, a man couldent live in a fishes belly for 3days and if u have a problem with stealing u dont cut off ur hand . those r just a few examples sir read ur bible
lol...someone put them there?....awww how old are u?....not tying to be funny but thats silly boo. you cant just put a city underwater lol.
Dont u watch the news though? history channel? discovery channel?.....read the paper?.....aww....ok well just try these links aight boo............[link to external website removed]
or just type in underwater cities found in ur search engine....just open ur eyes and mind to it.....if u can believe in a GOd u have never seen u can believe in things that u see with ur own eyes.
uwillhateme
How old are you believeing everything you see on T.V.?
Yeah let's all believe there were people who lived underwater and let's also believe that the Ninja Turtles were actually here!
Are you serious dude?
Like I said those are the people who are probably trying to drag people's beliefs from Christianity to their own little world.
Come on dude,cities underwater?
You GOT to be silly?
its ok. many people out there have not read the bible or even have an understanding of the bible as a whole. they take everything so literal. A lot of times people tend to just quote what they heard from the older generation of people who used religon to get through the toughest times in their lives thats why they hold it so close....but like i said its up to u to learn things for urself....just dont take the next mans word and run with it...really open ur eyes to stuff people let ignorance hold them back from...
ForeverDope, what is dumb about the actions of gays? Is it the fact that they like their own sex instead. Are you talking about the gays on the Tyra show hating what they are which they can't change? Or are you talking about stereotypical things like them all having AIDS or going around acting slutty and coquettish? Stereotypes shouldn't be apllied to the whole group. If any of these examples don't signify what is dumb about being gay, please clarify.
ForeverDope......lol too kute....
but listen kido...when i say underwater cities i dont mean there are people living under the sea silly. Meaning something catastrophic had to happen to cause major cities to somehow be washed away and lay at the bottom of a body of water.
Who said anything about believing everything i see on tv?.......i said tv and the internet are tools to gain information..just like books. However you must use common sense when taking informaiton in...so just like anything else in this world u have to think....because thats one of the reason ignorace flows so freely in this world people......
do u remember at one time in history people believed the world was flat as a pancake...until proof someone actually took the risk to prove them other wise?...if not half of those people would have still been believing because they knew they would not travel that far to see it so all they had to go off was another mans word.....until it was proved wrong....u see my point?
uwillhateme
Okay you said washed up cities.
There's an explanation for that.
IN THE BIBLE!Lol.
Again there were shows that said they found Jesus's bones and the nail that was inside of Him and his cloths he wore when they crucified Him.
I'm not going to say it's real or fake because T.V. and the internet can be deceiving.
ForeverDope
lol.....that comment about the jesus bones...nah no need to ponder my mind on that....lol...im not big on religon nor do i know for a fact that jesus walked the earth...so stories like that would not even excite me...however u are missing the point as a whole and it seems to fly str8 over ur head.......so again....
a person would be a fool to believe everything they see on tv or read on the net...but back in biblical times...people had to believe in what the majority did if not you'll be an outcast. We have something people of that time did not have....so as i stated before...use these things as tools to find ur truth.....now im trying to break this simple shyt down to u as basic as possible....but...just do ya research for urself thats all...if something does not make sense to u..question it...i dont have to just believe it because everybody else did..is all im saying
Thank u collegebound...im here at work so this is getting me through the night...i just hate ignorance ya know.
As i stated above my 22 year old sister is a lesbian who came out when she 18 and I knew since we where kids how she felt and I hated to see the pain she went through being not accepted because of who she was so I feel its only right for me to stand up for her and people like her because we all human and nobody is any betta than the next person...reguardless who they sleeping with...and thats just real.
Hey to ALL those who keep talking about who don't read the bible, I'm not one of them I READ it every saturday and the bible says this is the sabbath day also, so I don't work on the sabbath day (thank God fot that) and the bible says that God Destroyed TWO cities which were Sodom and Gomarrah do to homosexuality...a couple of homos tried to sleep with a an angel who was a man when they had the choice to to sleep with virgins this infuriated GOD which is why he destroyed these cities... come on read people or better yet use some common sense can a man get another man pregnant or vice versa? HELL NO!!! and I not talking hate here, I'm talking the truth and I not judging because that's not my job it's GOD's, my job just like everyone else job is to strive for eternal life so that we can be saved because none of us are saved and no one will be saved until Christ comes back according to the bible, but you have to be living right and I'm sorry but homosexuality is not right and it is a SIN and an abomination and its wrong just like lying, stealing and etc. like I said before all of us fall short because EVERY last one of us choose to do something against God's word, the thing is admit your doing wrong ask GOD to forgive you and LIVE right...The bible says the upward path is straight and narrow but the downward path is wide. I don't hate anyone, I just don't like when people who do wrong make excuses like ''I was born this way'' or ''I have to steal to survive'' it's Bogus and it all boils down to us making the CHOICE to do wrong because we DO NOT have to and this is fact.
azzie-rae how can you state it as truth when the whole idea of God and things such as that are based on belief? And the bible is written by humans TRYING to tell the word of God.
fyi: If you were homeless and everyone was ignoring you because they think your the mole on the face of society what would you do to survive? Beg, cheat,steal. Live by any means necessary. (Now back to the Rihanna thread I go.)
Uwillhate you a lot of good points about the bible in regards to the 11th chapter of Leviticus where it talks about the diet the children of israel should follow and ur right about shellfish but also pork, fish that don't have scales these are all things the children of israel should not eat and when you said a lot of times people skip over things in the bible this is true..it is written that you should not add or take from the bible, GOD meant what he said then and means it now
most of the people that are talking about this isn't right to be gay and the bible this and that ...turn right back around and judge people...yeah...ok we all have our opinion's but people are going to be straight or gay rather we like it or not...example: people that have sex before marriage are committing a sin as well...anyways i am not saying it's ok i am simply saying some people know the bible and still chose to continue what they do but at the end of the day it's not anyone's place to judge them but GOD ...let's not point finger's because we don't agree with some ones choice...unless your PERFECT which it is impossible to be ...let's not get into that lol
I dont like christians they think they so much better than other people...HomoS been here since the beginning of time and will be here till the end.hate it or love it. U should worry about who in your bed cause if it aint your husband or wife thats fornication and its a sin and you probably should worry about your own azz makin to heaven
No collegebound get your facts right, when talk to me, because we can take the bible out of this conversation and look at nature like I said earlier do you EVER see same sex animals having sex? we choose to do wrong and that covers everything from homosexuality to stealing we have a CHOICE see what you don't understand the devil uses our trials and tribulations to make us think we have to steal to survive or we are born gay, but it is because GOD gave us free will we have a choice, and if I was homeless now, because I have been in the past I would do the same thing I did back then, have faith and choose to do the right thing to better my situation this was my choice, I mean come on... people who choose to do wrong to get what they need or what they want where is it really getting them?
First of all nobody is going to heaven...as a matter of fact we are already in heaven, actually there are three of them read the first chapter of Genesis. We we have to strive to get is the city of the new jerusalem, which is going to come down from the third heaven after God destroy this world with fire..read revelations..and I am not a christian, I am Jewish..and I dont think I better than anybody, I'm just trying to live right...and if people knew any better they would too.
azzie-rae said: "The bible says that God Destroyed TWO cities which were Sodom and Gomarrah..." You kind of brought in to support some of your facts, but your right lets get of the Holy Book.
Yes I do see alot of same sex animals humping each other. Sex is sex for animals. Just watch documentaries or animal planet. You can also search the web for these studies they do on animals and it has shown that some are actually gay or bi. Here's a wiki page. [link to external website removed] During dire circumstances you HAVE to steal if you want to live. Homosexuality is something you are usually born with. There have been studies and they found some kind of chemical imbalance in gays head or something. (imbalance kind of seems mean) In few cases maybe someone gives up on the opposite gender for something traumatizing or something,and they find happiness.
Yeah God created us but he created us with the ability to form into anything we want, but I believe once we are created (born) he steps back and just oversees while life and mind forms our own path.
Oh yeah when you say homeless what type do you mean. I was homeless for a week (in a hotel or something) after my dad left my mom, but then I was sent to another state to live with my aunt. Or were you in Central Park on a bench holding a sign saying 'anything for food' type of homeless. (Ya don't have to answer. Just me being nosy)
Adam+EVE=baby Adam+Steve=Hell and you may have seen same sex animals humping but I bet nobody became pregnant and I was homeless for way longer than just a couple days and I did not have to steal or beg because God had my back the whole time, I was still blessed, and eventually God blessed me with a better situation
My guess is these guys are not sexually attracted to women but they want to be?! I honestly believe some people are really attracted to the same sex. Why?! I dunno is a mystery that scientist hasn't been able to find. But apparently Homosexuality has been around for centuries, otherwise it wouldn't be mentioned in the Bible. I personally don’t have anything against gays but Homosexuality does fall under sin. However straight people have skeletons as well, So we really cannot judge a person sexual preference either. It is what is.
azzie-rae, taking the bible out of the equation and using observations and research, there are just so many reasons why people were gay. It goes as far back as the human race in general. Adding the bible back in it's a whole new game. You arguing from a religious standpoint and I am arguing from a part religious, part scientific/observation, but a whole 'I want the human race to just come together with all its differences and embrace each other' standpoint. From your literal Bible view you are right I guess, but people interpret some parts differently.
If you believe in God, you can't take the Holy Bible out of it because it is His Word and His Word is either a lie or it's the truth. A sin is a sin...Romans 1:26 is very clear and that is
And for this caus God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature. And like wise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
Based on God's Word, homosexuality is a "choice". Please don't disagree with me, disagree with God he said it, I just take him at His Word.
Kids that were molested as a child will sometimes become confused and start favoring the likeness of their abuser. Or they will do just the opposite and hate men, if there was a male relative or stranger that violated them. It's sad but it happens to young girls and now boys all the time.
Homosexuality is a perverted Spirit that is housed in a human body. There is a such thing as Demon Possession, same thing.
Gods love is unconditional, but He also expects to live by His Word. God gives us a choice to do good or evil, it's our choice but choices comes with consequences.
God will come through to those who belive and have faith. There are laws in the universe even for atheist, if they step out on faith even though they may not believe in God they will still reap the blessings that a Christian or beliver would receive.
God does not have any favorites, you can be the worse of the worse but if you give your heart over to God, He will make you a new person.
I remember reading about young ladies in college being lesbians until after college to keep from getting pregnant. It's a shame but this is the world we now live in.
Wow this thread is something else. First off, we are not born gay nor straight. We have no knowledge of our sex or sexual orientation when we are born...we don't develop any of that until we get on up into age. It's natural for us to be heterosexual. Homosexuality is unnatural. I apologize to those who are homosexual, but I'm just being real. That's the whole point of the penis and vagina....they're opposites....be with the opposite of what you have. In no way am I bashing you or whatever. I don't judge people on race, sexuality or whatever else. I like people for who they are on the inside. However, I'm not going to be in agreement with something that is clearly wrong....whether it's homosexuality, stealing, etc. I'm not the type of person that only quotes the bible to use against other people and to try to condemn them. The bible is directed towards all of us..not just gay people. I'm not gonna say you're going to hell because I don't even know where I'm going. I usually don't make any comments about homosexuality, but I had to after reading all of these comments.
@ whoever said it was a choice and you can say you're gay one day, Umm..yes you can say you're gay but that does not mean you ARE gay. Can you suddenly make yourself sexually attracted to the same sex. That's all a person who is gay can become sexually attracted to.
And most of you saying they will burn in hell are hypocrites if you're using the Bible and at the same time, have had sex out of marriage, you're considered a "fornicator" in the Bible.
@nicoleviera: No, we have no sexual orientation upon birth because we're babies. However, when hormones develop the body, you have no idea what a person feels. You don't know if they have too much testosterone or too much estrogen to make them feel like the opposite sex so your argument is moot.
Anybody can use the Bible to go against homosexuality but until you've walked in their footsteps you can't speak for them. Go attend a seminar on this. You'll learn quite a bit.
You retards that keep talking about the word of God....What makes you so adamantly sure that the bible is exactly how he intended us to live. Unless he has spoken to you directly please PLEASE stop quoting the lyrics of man. That is exactly what the bible is Man's word.
Does anyone I mean anyone have a bible that is dated anytime in AD NOPE!!!! That is our first problem as African Americans....some of us are too dumb to think for ourselves...so we root ourselves in tradition and folk tales... GOOD LUCK!!
For the other dummy who ranted about animals not numping the same sex....you must not have cable or access to the discovery channel or national geographics.... Just about every animal in the animal kindom has shown homosexual tendencies. I guess they are an abomination too!!
Yall simple minded N*ggas kill me! I dont use that word normally but it is so befitting!
@Focus:
My argument is MUTE in what sense?? What you said about hormones and all, those are things I already know....So no point proven on that. NEXT. I said that it was UNNATURAL. Okay? Meaning that something went wrong. Do you or do you not agree? Not all gays feel like the opposite sex. I'm speaking on what I feel...not on what you feel or anybody else. I stated my opinion on this situation.
To others:
The bible was written by man....OBVIOUSLY. Who don't know that? God spoke through those men though. Yeah things have been changed around and reworded, but what hasn't? Do you believe the history books? Do you believe everything else you were taught or read???? You can't believe some of the bible and then not believe other parts. Just don't believe any of it or believe all of it.
And furthermore, you can't compare what animals do to what humans do. Are you serious??
@bourgie_girl
It was me.Now I know that we really can't control our feelings for people but we CAN control our actions.
We all know that being gay is wrong.I'm not really trying to bring God all into this but God knows that the feelings we have towards some people are uncontrollable,but he probably expects us to AT LEAST look past the these fetishes and move on.
@Others who believe I'm just using the Bible to condemn people,I'm going to tell you right now I don't JUST think gay is wrong for religious reasons.
Now @
a) being str8 doesn't guarantee that you'll procreate. there are millions of str8 people who are unable to have children. b) there are animals who have sex with the same sex. c) what you *think* or *believe* doesn't make it so. lol @ the people who wanna talk about god and what THEY think got wants or likes when they don't think about god any other damn time.
p.s. people often look at brothas on the DL as the source of HIV, but why isn't anyone holding sistas accountable for taking care of their health? what happened to "no glove, no love"?
