: Here's an essay that MediaTakeOut.om got its hands on. It was written by soul singer Jill Scott:
My new friend is handsome, African-American, intelligent and seemingly wealthy. He is an athlete, loves his momma, and is happily married to a White woman. I admit when I saw his wedding ring, I privately hoped. But something in me just knew he didn't marry a sister. Although my guess hit the mark, when my friend told me his wife was indeed Caucasian, I felt my spirit...wince. I didn't immediately understand it. My face read happy for you. My body showed no reaction to my inner pinch, but the sting was there, quiet like a mosquito under a summer dress.We’re gonna leave this one alone . . .Was I jealous? Did the reality of his relationship somehow diminish his soul's credibility? The answer is not simple. One could easily dispel the wince as racist or separatist, but that's not how I was brought up. I was reared in a Jehovah's Witness household. I was taught that every man should be judged by his deeds and not his color, and I firmly stand where my grandmother left me. African people worldwide are known to be welcoming and open-minded. We share our culture sometimes to our own peril and most of us love the very notion of love. My position is that for women of color, this very common "wince" has solely to do with the African story in America.
When our people were enslaved, "Massa" placed his Caucasian woman on a pedestal. She was spoiled, revered and angelic, while the Black slave woman was overworked, beaten, raped and farmed out like cattle to be mated. She was nothing and neither was our Black man. As slavery died for the greater good of America, and the movement for equality sputtered to life, the White woman was on the cover of every American magazine. She was the dazzling jewel on every movie screen, the glory of every commercial and television show. She was unequivocally the standard of beauty for this country, firmly unattainable to anyone not of her race. We daughters of the dust were seen as ugly, nappy mammies, good for day work and unwanted children, while our men were thought to be thieving, sex-hungry animals with limited brain capacity.
We reflect on this awful past and recall that if a Black man even looked at a White woman, he would have been lynched, beaten, jailed or shot to death. In the midst of this, Black women and Black men struggled together, mourned together, starved together, braved the hoses and vicious police dogs and died untimely on southern back roads together. These harsh truths lead to what we really feel when we see a seemingly together brother with a Caucasian woman and their children. That feeling is betrayed. While we exert efforts to raise our sons and daughters to appreciate themselves and respect others, most of us end up doing this important work alone, with no fathers or like representatives, limited financial support (often court-enforced) and, on top of everything else, an empty bed. It's frustrating and it hurts!
Our minds do understand that people of all races find genuine love in many places. We dig that the world is full of amazing options. But underneath, there is a bite, no matter the ointment, that has yet to stop burning. Some may find these thoughts to be hurtful. That is not my intent. I'm just sayin'.
I think that love is love, BUT I am bothered by it because it seems like with the dudes I know, they in it because they cant handle black women. Any man that cant handle any woman is a punk. And statements like that to me cry that you a punk as a man and that white women are weak, docile, and easily controllable. That bothers me soooo much. Be with a person because you truly love them and I couldnt be happier. But choosing to be with someone because they are an "easy" race to deal with really pisses me off. Get your balls up and man up already!
She is speaking outloud what a lot of intellgent, respectable BLACK women are thinking. There are great black women out here being overlooked because of the ghetto hoe's tarnishing our images and because of the white chicks who.btw, have to SAME motives and agendas as the so-called black gold-digger-girl. Black women are at the bottem of the totem pole. I am black woman, so I say that being HONEST and NOT disrespectful. Just sayin"...
I understand where she's coming from. Part of what she's saying is factual, and the rest is simply her opinion. I'd never knock Jill for that. She was bold enough to publish her feelings, which is courageous, in and of itself. Conversely, it's your right to disagree with her, and I'd also never knock anyone from doing that. It's healthy debate. Personally, I think you're going to love, whomever you're going to love. Go 'head, Jill!
@Adidas09 Why go off on the deep end and compare such with the scum of the earth black prostitutes & such. I know it's hard for you imagine a mixed heterosexual relationship where there love, respect, admiration and dignity where none of that disgusting ghetto-gagger crap takes place. That's no difference then these same type of low-life females being with a Black thug who engage in the same type activities. There is a difference between a respectable, educated, loving couple in a marriage regardless of color and the small-minded disgusting low life(s) that you are only aware of. smh @nonsense
Poor Jill. Every black man is not for every black woman, and every black woman is not for every black man. The problem is a lot of black women refuse to date outside the race, and while that is their option, it limits their mate potential. Don't fear the unknown and step outside your comfort zone sisters, then maybe you'll find the love you've been missing.
While I can appreciate what Jill has to say, she sounds the older black folks who are stuck on a plantation. Who cares when we have a large number of Black men that are either gay, on the DL, in prison, have no respect for themselves let alone women and live for the thug life & rap music. Like minds attract each other. Well, Jill how did your so-called Black Bro of a husband work for you? Get real! I'm over the black love fantasy! I'm Color-blind, with no hangups & looking for quality of character & achievements in a man. It's called progression Jill & freeing one's soul & mind. Time 2 move on
I'm Puertorican but I have to say I feel Jill Scott on that. I have a lot of respect for African American history. Having said that, I think Black women have to worry about being the best they can be as individuals and expand their minds as there is a whole world out there, a world w/ no limits and no limits as who they could be dating. This was touching though.
I agree with Jill Scott. To see any black man with a white woman is a betrayal. Someone on here said true love has no color...!!? I agree but most blacks don't know what love is. Love is the struggle to people share together that takes a life time to endure. It is not a good sexual mate who is submissive to the extent where her man does whatever he wants to her and anyone else as long as the bank account is fat. Honestly, what white girl wants the stigma of being with a black man and black kids unless there's lots of money involved or they can't find a rich white man to take of them?
Its amazing to me how all these black people want us to forget about slavery. lol. Are you serious? That was a major part of black American history. You think the Jews will ever let us forget about the holocaust? Hell no. So why is blacks and whites trying to make blacks forget about our history. Pretty or not its OUR history. You should NEVER forget your history. Besides slavery isnt even a life time removed. My great aunt still tells me about stories of living in a slave house and how her mother was a slave. You dumb asses. NEVER FORGET YOUR HISTORY BECAUSE IF YOU DO ITS BOUND TO BE REPEATED
Smh....I'm so sick of this argument. Personally I prefer black women(I'm African American). But it doesn't 'burn my soul' to see interracial couples. Love is love and it knows no color. If one truly applied that logic to ALL relationships, there shouldn't be a 'sting'. I don't care how 'intelligently' she put it, the fact that many of our black women feel this way is f*cked up.
And f*ucked-up pie is still f*cked-up pie no matter what way you slice it.
As a black male, I understand where she's coming from. In a sense, at times, it's almost like sleeping with the enemy's daughter in the mind's of some black women, and even black men. My experience with White people have been good and bad, but I know my history. I sometimes wish a white person can feel what a Black American feel sometimes, when they roll their eyes at us, turn us down for jobs or police brutality, but I will be wrong. I feel sometimes that white people got a easy ride and black folks didnt, so I have a little resentment, but my resent is enough not to date white anything.
Yall idiots running around talking about "that was the past and we need to move on". Dont you people see the negative effects that slavery has on our people. But with the negative effects there are a lot of positive ones. Like those that choose to appreciate what our forefathers fought for to give us the blessings we have today. Like an education and the right to live and thrive. Like them black men who become successful but then oh choose to marry the very ones who are his oppressors. NEVER MARRY YOUR ENEMY. DUMMIES.
Slavery and Racial Segregation ended years ago so why do people want to keep the shackles on their feet when they're not locked? Listen racism exists true enough but it comes from all sides not just white people. I see it on MTO all the time and unless you are over 100 years old, YOU WERE NOT A SLAVE It's time to grow out of the old "conventional" way of thinking and pave a new path into the future. As long as you continue to think "Love" has a color then you continue to limit yourself. Keep an open mind and not a closed heart.
ugh.....this bitch needs to chill the f*ck out.
No wonder black men think they're the [EXPLETIVE], white chicks swoon over them, while black chicks whine and cry about why none of them want to be with them!
JEEZ WOMAN THIS IS 2010! INTERRACIAL RELATIONSHIPS ARE TAKING OVER!
I wonder if she hurts when she sees products of IR relationships, like Halle Berry, Tiger Woods (LOL)....her OWN PRESIDENT!?!?! You can call him black all ya want, but he's a swirly! LOL
-The Cablinasian (:
DO JILL NOTICE THAT ITS 2010 NOT 1934 ITS A FREE COUNTRY GET OVER IT AND LIVE WITH IT.....IM TIRED OF HEARING ALL THIS COMPLAINING AND BITCHING WHEN U SEE A BROTHA WITH ANOTHER ETHNICITY GET OVER IT ITS GONNA HAPPEN..........SHE AND SOME OF YAH ON HERE SOUND SIMILAR TO THE (BLACK VERSION) OF THE K.K.K TO ME WITH ALL THIS HATRED TOWARDS WHITE WOMEN.
It's funny I just wrote a paper about interracial dating. SMH @ a lot of you making generalizations. Although most people can sympathize with what Jill is saying, hell I can and I am a product of IR dating. But at the same time America, Black America will NOT be able to move on from the wrong that whites have done if we keep blaming everything on them.
I guess many people don't see that. The more we let things like that DIVIDE our race the more WE will not succeed as a whole. Only WE can do better for ourselves and for our future.
And you know u always see a white girl riding for a black man if he's on drugs and she is too. I say sisters let the [EXPLETIVE] be. Get your self right with the lord because the [EXPLETIVE] that we're enduring on earth is temporary, heaven is forever. Be content that u are alone because these white girls have to share these men but they don't care. [EXPLETIVE] aren't faithful to them either. Don't compromise ur standards just to have a man. Like Deelicious said, be with a [EXPLETIVE] with money or don't be with noone, because a [EXPLETIVE] broke or rich delivers the same issues, infedilty regardless.
The Sad thing is that educated people such as Jill Scott are ignorant to the reality, that this is what some many people died for when fighting for civil rights. THE FREEDOM TO BE FREE! regardless what prefrence when we choose a lover! it is 2010 BLACK,WHITE,CHINESE we are Fn E Q U A L! so jill scott is a BIGOT plain and simple
@ChasityLove
Speak child. Love is the struggle. Love is being there for your little black boys and little black girls. Not raising Beckys kids. Fu(K that our black boys need our black men to give back to them. Why give to a community that doesnt need it. Especially when you didnt even come from THAT community. They killing our black boys left and right and the best thing you house Nig gers can do is marry their sisters and daughters? GTFOH.
Who cares! If a white woman is dumb enough to marry a black man let her! Its not going to last, he's not going to be faithful, and he's not going to raise the children which he is so quick to create! You black women really need to learn how to be soft, feminine and lady like and not sneaker wearing, gum cracking hood rats then you find a successful man of any color!
CDEXO8 U seem like an college educated brother but u r still confused. Slavery is practiced on a whole new level. U don't have to be physically restrained to be oppressed. Dude the products of slavery is the mentality u and most blacks express everyday. Ur comments prove that u have a slave mentality. All [EXPLETIVE] say slavery ended long ago.
I feel like we didnt ask to be brought here to America. A lot of black men, and a few women, are brainwashed, by white society, to think that white women look better. To me, our community cant afford to have all the good men leave out and marry out, that leaves unwed mothers and unreared kids that grow up and rob people and end up in jail. The black family need unity and a black man and black woman period to survive in America. We have real enemies here that have oppressed and brainwased us. Im not a racist, but its the truth. Love is love, but think about what I said..........
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@ emmettmays85, hey Sexy - missed YOU!!! MMMWAH =P
@ NikkiLaFleur, I feel you. But the problem with that is, that the benefits of slavery are still being reaped by many whites - they got several hundred years of free labor off our backs, and it wasn't that long ago. Also, they are still doing many things to hurt the black communities and break up the family unit, which is their only way of overcoming & manipulating us. Many of their tactics have worked and still working...
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Im a single mom. Some days i love it and some days i hate. But whats so cool is I have friends that support me and mine. My girlfriend (who is married), her husband and i get together and tutor our children together. And sometimes when I look around see the progress we are making with our children, i see why they say "It takes a village to raise a child". We need our black men. White women dont. Our black boys need our black men. If everyone would stop being so selfish and only worrying about themselves then maybe our communities wouldnt be what they are today.
angelaheiressnyc hey baby , yeah u are right i notice when dealing with black and white relationships, according to hypocrite bitches on here a black women and white man marry out of love , but a black that marries a white women , oh he is self hating, he hate his mother (i hate that bullshit rant) or he ashamed of his blackness, a whole bunch of [EXPLETIVE] that is never thrown up at a black women who is with a white man
Jill has some amazing opinions that are to me, True. From the history of treatment of black women til today how they are treated. My opininon, some are truely degrading themselves for attention. We all have a choice but for blackman to be with a white woman, he feels that he's arrived and not only being with a white person but to be with her and talk negatively about blackwomen your basically including your mother, grandmother and every black woman that went throught hell to raise you.
I agree what she is saying and why she's saying it. I kind of wince when i see it too. I'm from Washington state, and there they consider white women "top notch" cause they got money to trick off and all of that. That i don't like. But if a black man really loves his white woman and isn't trying to use her to be something he could never be then it's love and you have to respect that.
ME TOO GIRL. JILL YOU ARE AN OLD SOUL. BLACK WOMEN DID EVERYTHING POSSIBLE TO SAVE OUR BLACK MEN SO THEY COULD SURVIVE FROM SLAVERY TILL NOW, AND THIS IS HOW THEY REPAY ALL OF OUR EFFORTS! WE WORKED WHEN THEY COULD NOT, WE BROKE OUR BACKS AND PUT UP WITH ALL OF THE BULL FROM THE WHITE RACE JUST SO OUR SONS COULD MAKE IT. IT'S JUST TOO MUCH TO WRITE AND TO MUCH TO TAKE. SO BLACK MALES DO YOU........GOD IS WATCHING!!!
@Bezsenny
Your completely right and I understand that. But I just feel as if too many people use slavery as an excuse. But then again that mentality is learned at home, so many children don't get the chance to think otherwise. But in order to do better for ourselves, people have to let that mentality go and move forward instead of staying in the past. It's obviously doing nothing for our race.
Every valid point that was made in this thread I understand. But at the same time it's that mentality that's not getting us anywhere
@emmettmays85: exactly! I mean,if you're going to be so against IR relationships/procreation then be an equal opportunity discriminator because it's pretty hypocrite for a bw to allegedly be so "hurt" or up in arms whenever it involves a bw/ww but when it's the other way around? It's all good & feels somewhat validated I guess? Please!
I feel where Jill is coming from. I think every black women gets the feeling in her body. Its almost a reflex. Perhaps its an innate feeling of wanting to preserve the race and wanting to do it with a successful black man. However, black men are doing this because they know how jealous we black women are. Ignore them. Stop giving black men and white women power. Hyping them up. We call ourselves strong black women then act like it Dammit. While your at it, open your mind up to dating non black men. Maybe some of the bitterness will dissapate.
Why is it that negroes who disagreee with IR relationships always have to bring up things that happen in slavery times??? Muhfukkas, this ain't slavery times, and you don't know any slaves. I'm not saying forget your history, but F*CK!!!!!! Can you just give me a better reason than that for disagreeing with it. White folks ain't givin' a f*ck about you still being butt-hurt over some terrible things that have happened to our people so long ago. Stop lumping everyday people with those that did these things. And don't reply because I won't respond, you'll be wasting your time.
I agree with QueenieE to the FULLEST! You can put lipstick on a pig, but its still a pig. Make your words elegant but it's still racism. I have been in love with black women since day one, usually more than my own Latina sisters. I have a son with a beautiful black woman and the love we shared was one of the most powerful things I have ever felt. My soul winces when I read this heifer make it seem our love wasn't better than any love I could've had with my own or my girl with hers... This is Bullshit... My love will not take the blame for the past or for anyone!
Jill Scott shut ya jelous azz up u just haten cuz u cant get a successful black man. Yall black women always puttin black men down yall think theres not alot of successful black men i bet theres more successful black men den there is successful black women & dats bcuz a black man has a white women there 2 to support him 100%.
Black women it is imperative that you get a good education before you even consider having children. Live for today and tomorrow because there is nothing you can do about the way other adults live their lives. Concentrate on yourselves first. Take care of your health and stay out of those trifling clubs filled with trifling men who only want to party and shrink from responsibility. Ours sons are not graduating from school. They are going to prison and come out worst than they went in.
Research on IR relationships??? LOL
You can't generalize it. It's not like it's a bad thing either, just look at all the great offspring that has come from IR relationships!
-Halle Berry -BARACK OBAMA (yup...he's MIXED) -Tiger Woods (aside from the scandal) -Jimi Hendrix -W.E.B Dubois -Fredrick Douglas -Henry Oswanna Tanne -Alexandre Dumas -Alicia Keys -Lenny Kravitz
and MANY MORE.....
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As far as I see it, IT'S ALL GOOD! lol
Furthermore, my intelligence and integrity as a black man is insulted when our race(black men and women), feel that any black person involved in an IR 'sold-out' or 'betrayed' their race. Isn't that the same kind of stereotyping and categorizing that we've become so angry at white people for doing? Yes, there are black men and women who date outside their race for less than honorable reasons, but you shouldn't let a few bad apples spoil the bunch.
Read about slavery, learn how it was accomplished and what they did to strip the slaves of their culture and their sense of family, pride, and love. Read about how they lived and viewed life. Analyze your life, not the physical, but evaluate the mental processes that you exercise to solve problems choose mates and view family and culture. Then find out if correlates with the forced behaviors of slaves.
It make me sick how black men have a problem with what jill said when its the truth. But doing the jim crow year. When the white man were telling black men boy you will never be sh!t. It was black women standing up saying the devil is a liar. Baby you can be what ever you want to be. Black men needed black women then. Yall some dumb ass men.
It is good to remember the past, but living in history in the present will only make you bitter and depressed. Jill Scott is only making us appear weeping and moaning and I am so finished with that mentality. We don't own black men so let them do what they want so long as they are responsible. I just want them to grow up and take responsibility for the children they bring into this world.
@SaintJames What other reason do you need as to why we feel this way? Slavery wasnt enough????? Really?
And YES the south is still very much separated. Yall runnin around acting like separation doesnt exist and that white folks want the best for our black boys. lol.
PLEASE OPEN A BOOK AND THEN TAKE A TRIP SOMEWHERE BESIDES YOUR BACKYARD.
I'm really laughing at some of you bw on here! If you haven't noticed the bm that are successful and about something besides hood rat ways want a CLASSY and ELEGANT woman, not a chick that would fight at the drop of a hat! You bw really need to learn some manners and have some goals and aspirations because becoming a video vixen on a damn "model". Get an education and some sophistication and you get a man worth something!
Oh and I agree with SaintJames about living in the past. Yes our ancestors did suffer horrible times during slavery but we are so far past that now. It really irritates me when I hear a black person rant and rave continuously about the WM and how everything is his fault. Is this what Dr. King fought for? I don't think so. Most of us no longer live in segregation, I have white friends who I care about. It's time for some of us to let go of that grip we have on the past!
Black women for the most part do not care about ww bm. Its only when its thrown in our face in a negative way to make us feel inferior is when we have the issue. Stop comparing us. It is true. I post on non black blogs, I never hear other races tearing down their women. What's really good black men? Do you need attention? Seems as if you all are acting out. As hard as you may try. I'm really tired of these threads deemed to make black women look desperate, lonely, pathetic, and bitter.
In these days anyone can acquire wealth, but does that mean u r truly free? You pay off your house u still owe the goverment money, if u don't pay ur taxes, the state has the authority to sell ur house to someone else for the cost of back taxes. So is ownership a realization in America? What about ur car? If you don't pay your taxes u can't drive. It's better to enslave an entire country then a specific race, because the only war to be fought is against the government? But who's "foolish" enough to start a revolt?
A lot of brothers can't handle this essay by Jill,cause they can't handle the TRUTH
They are never for holding the community together,but dividing it.Even when they have MIXED kids they are never around for them,look at the clebrities,Alicia Keys,Halle berry,Barrack Obama,all grew up without their BLACK fathers.
I wonder really if certain black men,will ever GROW up,and face up to their RESPONSIBILITIES
Another thing..even though what Jill wrote was powerful..why is she so concerned about bm dating/marrying outside their race if she's in a relationship? Isn't she happy? Her family is all that should matter to her @ the time & how does she feel about the POTUS? He's a product of a biracial union..just saying
@CDEX08
You know why no one can hold you down?????? Wait for it wait for it..... Is because your ancestors fought for the right for you to have a decent education and uplift yourself. And even if you are from a mixed heritage, as i am, then it was someone elses great grand parents that fought the inequalities so that little black boys and little black girls only hold back would be themselves and not from a lack of an education or opportunity. Think on that for a min.
@ezra Thank you love. These fools need mad education.
My nationality, you mean AMERICANS??? LOL You hate Americans??? LOL
And I am Cablinasian, that's right, Black, White, N.American, and Asian. (:
And there are plenty of IR relationships outside of "google" that do make it, but it's hard trying to show you on a comment board of a d@mn blog. DUH!
And with all the [EXPLETIVE] about the "one drop rule" and taking MY MIXED PEOPLE as BLACK....I can say whatever the f*ck I want on here! LOL
TheTruth,
It was a time black women couldn't get on TV or dance in videos. Who were the video vixens then? lol another brother or sister with a slave mentality. "White people can do no wrong even when their the origin of all wrong in America". Slaves couldn't express the culture or values they were beaten and murdered for it.
@ the truth, how dare you put black women in category of vixen. What about 30+ year old black men still living at home without a pot to piss in holding onto his dreams of being an aspiring rapper, still hustling, and meanwhile has 2 to 3 baby mothers, in and out of jail, high school drop ouy. Some of you need to grow up. Now, how does it feel to be stereotyped. By the way, the black men that I described above, non of the white women are checking for. Except maybe for the hard dik because you wouldn't be able to afford the bubblegum . Get your money up!
First of all their are alot of money making black men married to black women. Why ppl called a man making alot of money a successful black man? You don't really have to have a milli to be successful. For those with common sense knw that success comes within. You can be a person making $50K a year and be successful. Its about how you carry yourself as a person. Raising your kids, takin care of business. My paps doesn't make $100K a year but he is a successful black man, because he raised good kids who all went to college, never got put in jail, and majority of the times do the right thing.
Jill is one of those angry over-weight woman who can't keep a man. Every time you turn around she wagging her finger in somebody's face jumping up to argue and fight. Her husband dumped her azz and her baby daddy quit her? She hard to please and get along with that's why. Her personal life is a mess and she looking around to blame somebody.
evilangel im so tired of hearin hoes black women explore your options , like black women that are single are holding out for the right black guy that is 100% BULLSHIT, I can assure 99% of the hoes who are single claiming they waiting on the right black men would not deny the advances of a white guy, the myth that single black women are holding out for black men is getting old and tired dont nobody wanna hear that [EXPLETIVE]
@blackberrybiz Ok not to put my business out there but lets go there. I'm a southern boy who has worked on a farm, raised animals, grew food to eat, worked in tobacco fields to raise money. My grandparents taught me about slavery and what they went through. My Mother told me how she had to walk to school while the white kids spit and them while they RODE by on the bus. So don't think I don't have a clue where I come from cause I've been there physically and mentally. I wasn't born with a silver spoon in my mouth I worked hard to get where I am.
WHO GIVES A SH!T BLACK GUYS GO FOR THE WHITE WOMAN...THATS WHAT BLACK MEN USUALLY DO WHEN THEY HAVE A LOT OF MONEY..NOTHING NEW.INSTEAD OF WHINING ABOUT WHAT RACE THE BLACK MAN IS WITH OTHER THAN A BLACK WOMAN,BLACK WOMEN SHOULD BE WITH A WHITE MAN AND CALL IT EVEN.IM HAPPY BEING WITH MY BYFD AND HE IS WHITE..BUT IT DOESNT MATTER.HE TREATS ME VERY GOOD..AND I CAN CARELESS WHAT SOCIETY THINKS.JILL CAN GET OVER IT.
Even though I have thoughts about mixed marriage's, I dont think every black man or white women is toghter so the black man can use them. I have seen some white men married to Black women, and the Black woman is running things. I have seen sista'in shelter being beaten by their white husbands and lover's too also. Sometimes relationships start off by lust or infactuation, and the relationship ends bad.
Plus really on the black women. Lets b honest some of y'all head is up ur a$$es. Some of y'all don't deserve a good man. Some of y'all don't know what is GOOD MAN IS. Its not about money, looks, and body. Its about common sense. Some of y'all don't know how to love a GOOD Man. Y'all give them away. "He doesnt act tough" Real men hide their toughness until its time to defend our family. Be real, when y'all are 14-17 y'all on the thugs, so guys start being thugs. So when some of y'all getcha butt whipped or have a couple of kids, then you want a good black man to save you. HELLL NO.
@ Evilangel, you sound dumb! I don't even hate when I see a white women with a black man she can have him! Less stress for me to deal with. My WHITE boyfriend is leaps and bounds ahead of black men who are TWICE his age! I agree black men ain't sh!t, however you black women need to start demanding more from them then d!ick!
@ChasityLove
Because its the same sh it the media tells us that everyone is jelous of us Americans. You know all the bull about us being a "free" nation and all. I have no reason in the world to be jealous of a whyte woman. They are so recessive and only a mutation of the black woman. So Beckie's get over yourselves.
Damn I try so hard to be positive but this ignorance on this site kinda pulls me in. Got to work on that.
I think you're missing the point, shes not a racist or a bigot...what she is saying is that black men seem to have lost love for black women and you can clearly see it with the comments on here from men, its disgusting. I've never dated outside my race and I am open to it but at the end of the day I am a black woman who adores and loves my black men period. Thats what's lacking in black men. I've never in my life heard a black man say they date outside their race but love their black women. They always have some negative remark about why they date outside their race.
@clarkthink-When you posted that comment I started singing "Halo" by Beyonce...! Mad respect baby...! We all know this thread is subjected to reaching 900 hits by 12:00pm...The WW posting their slick a** remarks will easily make the muthaf*cka reach 1000!!!! I'm not even going to post a response for the topic because it's about to get heated on this be-i be-i....
I don't give a damn how Jill scott or any body else feels about who I date. I have never owned a slave and none of you have ever been slaves. Fyi Africans were not the only slaves and white Americans were not the only slave owners. Africans are still getting sold in to slavery today but not to Americans. If I want to Lay down next to a black man then I will. You don't like it? Go fu.ck yourself cuz I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU LIKE.
@blubabiecutie28
Not all rich black men go for white women. Some go for white women because some white women put out the goodie fast. I know alot of money making bruhs and they have good black wives. WHY? because those wives are independent and dont have the ego to go with it. Plus they understand what a good man is. And they fulfilled their husband needs. You barely have women who know how to be the true black women like them old skool women back in the day. Some of y'all call them "run overs" but they are not. Husband do for them as well as wives for her husband.
...there goes that lack of love and respect. And black women lets be truthfull....u know why it burns...because when you are black woman who loved a black man who left you to raise your children all alone, then you see a black man with a white woman happy and taking care of that family..thats what burns. Think about it..if you were in a happy, stable relationship right now would you even comment the same way? I know I wouldn't. I'm a single mom raising a black boy by myself, thats where the burn comes from and guess what I still love my black men!
@ ezra,
I know right. It was awesome meeting you. Hit me up because we need to keep in touch. pvtashe@yahoo
Well lovely black people I have to part and raise my strong black young son. We are going to brunch so I can brake a little knowledge off and then run some errands. Peace and love to you my beautiful black people.
Being biracial hearing this stuff always pisses me off! Why do people always go back to slavery? Like any of us were there! Why can't you just love who you love? Would she rather it be like back in the day when blacks couldn't be near whites? Let me stop before I go off on this trick. Her soul should be burning for having a child with a gay black man. I guess that's better than a straight white man.
A lot of you'll sound plain crazy. Knowing your history is not "living in the past." Some of you suffer from what I call "the new negro complex," meaning you want to act like you are so color blind and don't understand why some Black people feel as they do concerning black-white relationships. Yes, people of diff races can fall in love, but I'm not going to support IR at the expense of being historically ignorant or dismissive of some black people's feeling, legit in many cases, when they feel negatively towards it.
@emmettmays85
I dont think YOU are disgusting. Just the things you choose to say out of your mouth especially toward our black women. I know what your preference is and you prefer IR dating but dont dog us out every chance you get. I love being black. Im full of so much diversity and I have a strength in me that hails from my ancestors (the black line). I have and am still enduring white american hatered and it pains me to see such a beautiful black man choosing his words the way you do. But please know that when you insult women, some little black boy and girl are watching and taking note.
Maybe its not that ww are stealing bm its just that ignorant bw want to have children with other ignorant bm. Make better choices with who you choose to f*ck an maybe your children will have fathers and that bed wouldn't be empty. I don't feel bad for any woman whose father isn't in their childs life. You can tell by someone character what type of person they are. So have a baby with Ray Ray and see what happens.
@blackberrybiz I co-sign..that's what I'm saying, u want to date outside your race cool, but don't come up with reasons that belittle black woman as the excuse as to why you do it. That's so uncalled for! That's what makes us bitter, why is it so hard to love and respect your black women in conjunction with dating outside your race? Sounds like self hate especially when you came from a black woman. My black son can date and love whomever he wants but you best believe he is going to be taught to love and respect the black woman no matter what
Forreal bills must be due because a good race debate always does the trick. Jill Scott kills me she's one of those people who reads nonstop about slavery and history and thinks she knows it all. Unless you were there shut your mouth. We get the gist of slavery so enough with the "massa" crap and field and house n!ggers. "Oh our sisters have been raped for 400 years blah blah blah...".
blackberrybiz baby how do u know my preference ? im not even into white bitches that much there are some cute ones but for most part no, also for me using the word bitch thats just how i talk , i always been like this the only women in my family i havent called a bitch was my sista and my auntie(she would blow me away). also blackberrybiz u too cute to be worried about who other [EXPLETIVE] [EXPLETIVE]
@Ezra_Yisrael1970:
Agreed. I bought her book of poetry a few years ago and it is OFF THE HOOK.
Jill is only INTELLIGENTLY echoing the sentiments of millions of Black women. Of course most Black men NEVER want to hear us call them out on this, so get ready for the black male rebuttle about how we are angry, bitter blah blah blah.
By the way brothas, I HAVE a man and a good successful one at that, and I strongly agree with Jill about this topic. So you can save calling me bitter for another day.
Y'all praising the white men like they GODS GIFT. LMFAO. Men are all the same. Some of them are good, bad. Women are all the same. Some of them are good, bad. If you think white men are better than black men then you need to wake up seriously. Y'all forget y'all haven't MET EVERY BLACK MAN IN THE WORLD. Plus females what every you like men will go for it. You like thugs, men are gonna be thugs. You like cars, men are gonna get good cars. Its all about you. If women start say I want a good man at the age of 16 and REALLY MEAN IT. then you will have them.
It's true but interracial dating does not bother me what bothers me is the men who still carry the slave mentality that white is right and black is ugly, black is dirty, black is nothing. When they put all white women in a "beautiful" category, and black women in the "dirty ugly hoe" category. I've heard and seen it myself so I know what I am talking about.
I hate this kind of talk it makes us look bitter, clingy and filled with self-pity and we are NOT. I could care less who Black men associate with, I just want them to be happy and self-reliant. Take care of themselves and their children irregardless of the race of their spouse. We have a man of color in the White House who came into the world through the womb of a white woman who nurtured, loved and raised him when his father refused to.
Mto this is the best thin i have ever seem for awhile from yall but its true these black dudes need to get beat in they head u could like who ever makes u happy but they always seem to pick the dum white women who dont give a sh*t i jus dont kno how some of dem reach fame without a brain makes no sense to me
What makes me upset is that the brother's can't handle what this beautiful black woman is saying, that's why they are hating on her. She is speaking the truth about the black situation in this country. Yeah it's 2010 and you can love anyone, but what about the fact that our women have been on our sides from the beginning helping us to fight the powers that be. Through every struggle they have persevered, and what do they get? nothing but crumbs from this society. I see her point it's not fair for the black man not to support his woman...she's more than a hoe and a trick...she's royalty!
I SO AGREE WITH HER BECUZ SUM BLACK MEN DO IT AND PUT THEIR OWN RACE DOWN IF ITS GENUINE THEN THATS GOOD 4 THEM BUT 90% OF THE TIME IT HAS SUM NEGATIVE CONNOTATION ITS EITHER BECUZ "SISTAS HAVE 2 MUCH DRAMA" OR BECUZ THEY SECRETLY HATE THEMSELVES AND THEIR RACE BECUZ THEY WERE LEAD 2 BELIEVE THAT WHITE OR LIGHT IS SUM HOW SUPERIOR THEN BLACK & BROWN BUT WHATEVA PPL WHO THINK LIKE THAT AINT LIVING 100% ANYWAY AND EVENTUALLY IT'LL SLOWLY EAT THEM ALIVE INSIDE SO UNTIL THAT DAY FU.CK EM!!!!
I am a white woman who dates black men. I personally have never had any issues with that. I will date anyone who is respectful to me and to other people. Honestly if it is not your husband or boyfriend or even your son it shouldnt affect you. I can see a little hurt but I can say that I get irritated when I see someone who looks like a respectable person with trash. I cant stand that especially when I see a bm with a ww because she just looks like she thinks she is cute off of that when she looks ignorant but if he looks like it too then let it be. I dont date bm who only date ww yes they
I love Jill Scott and all BUT it sounds like she LIKED HER FRIEND AND WAS A BIT BITTER about him with a WHITE WOMAN!!!!!!!!!!!! I agree some black men are with white women for the wrong reason but some that's just what they fell for! GET OVER THIS RACIST VIEW.... in this age you'll be surprise not seeing mix couples and mix babies.
There's many black dudes out there who only deal with black females. We all have our soulmate and why stick to one race? Love has no color!!!!
I love my BLACK husband and all our mix babies to come LMAOO
** Let's focus on this CORRUPT Government!
Jill Scott has always been a hard talking and acting woman who drives her men away. It is either her way or the highway and her opinion is supposed to rule over everybody else's. If she allows what strangers do to affect her soul then that is her own damn problem. She is just the type of woman that most men don't want and a lot of these black dudes had mothers like her so now they don't want no parts of that kind of woman. Always jumping up in a mans face being loud and angry. It's an ugly way to behave and ya'll need to change.
U GUYS NEED TO WAKE THE [EXPLETIVE] UP...RACISM IS ALIVE AND WELL...YOU GUYS SAY ITS 2010 WE NEED TO MOVE ON AND PROGRESS BUT IF YOU GO TO ANY WHITE PROCLAIMED MEDIA SITES LIKE TMZ YOU CAN SEE WHITE PEOPLE...MEN AND WOMAN...SAYING THE MOST RACIST SLURS AND TERMS TOWARDS BLACK CELEBRITIES THAT ARE POSTED. ONE THEY DID ON KELLY ROWLAND MANY WHITE PEOPLE ESPECIALLY WOMAN SAID AND I QUOTE "TAKE THAT NASTY HOOD RAT WEARING DIRTY PROJECT MONKEY BACK TO AFRICA BECAUSE THIS IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE A WHITE COUNTRY...WHITE POWER"....SO FOR BLACK MEN AND WOMEN WHO ARE INVOLVED IN IR...DON'T BEING IN DENIAL!!!!
Just by looking at the post on here the world can see how divided we are as a people and that's the problem....We wonder why the world see us as lost, well it's because we don't support one another. Black people are just like the Democrats that can't seem to get their heads out the crack of their azz...making it easy for the so called powers to hold us back. Wake the hell up black people!!!!!
do think that they are all that and are always making race issues about stuff. The men i date usually dont date ww because of what ever reason and those are the men who still love bw but they never bring up race issues to me. Not all bm who date outside there race are sellouts. As long as your happy you should be with whoever like i said the only time i cant stand certain things is when one race thinks they are better than everyone else because they can get someone outside their race.
..and black men you should feel offended that white women are only looking your way when you got your sh*t together. That's why you see it so much in the celebrity spotlight. I don't them looking your way when you're making $12 per hour living in you mother's basement. But black women, we take you any way any how because we have a love for you that you don't have for us. And its true, Obama was raised by a white woman and look who he married
@ TheTruth052489 I KNOW THATS RIGHT!!! Same thing here--- LEAPS AND BOUNDS! Shame on them for chasing after raggumuffins, having low standards to begin with, and being jealous that those same raggedy dudes don't want them. They better broaden their horizons if they don't plan on repeating that same vicious struggling single momma cycle.
U GUYS NEED TO WAKE THE FCUK UP...RACISM IS ALIVE AND WELL...YOU GUYS SAY ITS 2010 WE NEED TO MOVE ON AND PROGRESS BUT IF YOU GO TO ANY WHITE PROCLAIMED MEDIA SITES LIKE TMZ YOU CAN SEE WHITE PEOPLE...MEN AND WOMAN...SAYING THE MOST RACIST SLURS AND TERMS TOWARDS BLACK CELEBRITIES THAT ARE POSTED. ONE THEY DID ON KELLY ROWLAND MANY WHITE PEOPLE ESPECIALLY WOMEN SAID AND I QUOTE "TAKE THAT NASTY HOOD RAT WEARING DIRTY PROJECT MONKEY BACK TO AFRICA BECAUSE THIS IS AND ALWAYS WILL BE A WHITE COUNTRY...WHITE POWER"....SO FOR BLACK MEN AND WOMEN WHO ARE INVOLVED IN IR...DON'T BEING IN DEN
to all of ya'll sayin racism doesnt exist and we need blk women need to stop living in the past well hush up cuz it does to exist everyday with these damn white people they are too very racist I kno a blk guy who dated this white girl and he would tell me how she tried to belittle blk people like she was better than them trust me there are very racist people out there and i cant lie at times i feel very racist too becuz spanish, caucasion, indian and which ever other race thats out there feel they are above blk.
@angelaheiressnyc Exactly. We don't do that now. Because you do got the lames who dawg the sistas and you got the sistas who are forever mad at the lames and maddness goes to their daughters. So the daughters grow up thinking All black men ain't ish. I didn't grew up like that. Even the single black mothers in my community are not on that hate level. Nobody is teaching the values no more. And ppl don't wanna listen to the good values. I remember how black women and men wouldn't bash each other. But when Waiting To Exhale came out, it became a movement.
@jayanderson07:
I think its a SHAME that you've been rejected by a couple of black women or a few relationships didn't work out - that today you have such a sour taste in your mouth when it comes to speaking about what say is "some" of black women.
WHY not respond to the Black women who are intelligent, respectful, educated? WHAT would be your response to us? WHY are you SO QUICK to call out black women who supposedly have negative attributes? Is that all you've ever dealt with If so, then thats YOUR issue with who YOU choose to date. But don't come on here making generalizations about YOUR SISTERS - BLACK mothers, grandmothers, aunts. You should AUTOMATICALLY hold Black women higher than that in your mind. Think about WHY you are so quick to talk about the “bad” apples. Something has been brainwashing your mind brotha.
Okay...I'm so tired of black women saying that white women are EASILY CONTROLLABLE, DOCILE AND WEAK...AND THAT WE SUCK D*CK!!! YOU KNOW WHAT YALL NEED TO GET AT YALL MEN AND BE MAD AT THEM. I AM A PROUD WHITE WOMAN AND BABY I AM NOT DOCILE WEAK OR EASILY CONTROLLABLE! I AM JUST AS STRONG AS ANY BLACK WOMAN OR ANY OTHER RACE OF WOMAN AND MY NAME AINT BECKY EITHER! I DONT SUCK D*CK MY DEARS! AINT NO FREAK NEITHER! WANT RACIAL EQUALITY AND THEN BE MAD AT A WHITE WOMAN WHO ATTENDS A MOSTLY "BLACK" EVENT/CLUB THAT DONT MAKE NO SENSE! I AINT BETTER THAN U AND U AINT BETTER THAN ME!
She's being honest, and though i have love 4 all races, its the truth. As is, Black women already outnumber black men in America. So, when the small number of black men we DO have flock to get a white/Asian/Latina woman the minute they get 2 a degree and 2 nickels in their pocket, it does make us feel like we're not good enough. Then, if that weren't bad enough, certain blk men run smear campaigns against us (blk women seems 2 do the same thing too) I strongly blieve this is what whitey wants us to do, bcuz it is the best way to kill of our race.
im not saying that blk men need to date only blk women bcuz honestly i chose to stop caring becuz the pain u feel is heavy on my chest and i refuse to let it bother me anymore. but I feel blk people dont stick together like we should and mainly our men with the women i feel that the blk race is soon to be extinct there r gonna be so many mixed babies in the years to come and I just wondr if i should have a kid at all in a world like this where my blk people cant even stand together most blk kids dont feel pretty only the mixed girls really get looked at or the lighter ones this world has reall
My only problem with this way of thinking from black women is how they define (successful/good black man)…..I have 2 jobs one of which is at sears. now whenever I’m asked what I do and I say that I work at sears I immediately get the stair of inferiority…..every guy knows this look lol….it’s when a women doesn’t have enough respect for you to look you in the eye so she looks threw you as if you as if she was looking into the future….needless to say that when I’m at work at sears I strike out every time I step up to the plate…..now my real job is the money maker…I’m a longshoremen (casual) and whenever I say that I get the red carpet treatment….all of a sudden I go from being viewed as a “coon” to one of the good ones….someone that’s “on the same level”
the most crazy part is that the white girls and Latina girls at my sears job are more willing to give me the time of day then the black girls….then once people found out that I have a real job the sisters wanted to spend some time….at that point I saw threw their BS and it was clear that they don’t give a dame about a black man….they just want a man with money…..so I ask if it’s ok for black women to go for what they want then why can’t black men
@allergic2fake A VIDEO? Its discrimination everywhere. He didn' use a fat black beauty chick or fat white chick. Look at them R&B chiks videos they don't use short good black men. He is tall lite or dark with muscles. You gotta stop with that bitterness, because thats the problem with some sistas now. Too mad and bitter. NOT GONNA GET YOU NOWHRE Because a good black man don't want a bitter woman. So you just making it worst. Stop the bitterness LET IT GO. I'm good man, 5'7, nice body, I don't get pick because I'm short to alot of sistas and because I'm not a thug or a money machine. SO WHAT
conditioned our minds to see what beauti is so i feel a lot of black men think light skin is beautiful and long hair is too so whoever dont have long hair or light skin is beneath them. Blk I think would date out their race but other race men to me find us disgusting some of them not all but me as a blk woman is all for dating outside my race cuz blk men really turn me off wit the beckys and crap. but i get jill and where she is coming from but i dont care anymore cuz my happiness lies within me
I don't think black women have a problem with black men dating white women.
It's an ISSUE when black men act like white women are "EASIER" to deal with.
It's an ISSUE when black men ONLY date white women.
It's an ISSUE when there's a TREND of Black men reaching a certain success level and KEEP deciding to marry or date white women.
It's an ISSUE when black men have a PROBLEM with strong successful intelligent black women speaking their mind and would RATHER a meek white woman on their arm who they think wont make a fuss.
It's an issue when you all come RUNNIN back to us when the ish hits the fan in your white marriage and you wanna run back to the black community for support. But OF COURSE black women REGARDLESS of how we are portrayed, will ALWAYS be their to support black men. If ONLY we too could expect the same kind of UNCONDITIONAL SUPPORT from black men.
what up MTO? ok, first of all jill is a beauitful intellgent woman i am in shock wow! to hear that from jill i would never expected that from her and i thought she would be openminded woman but even famous ppl have an opinion i strongly disagree on her comment she disencougreing people of race for being happy free s to be themself this of america it free to country.... and i do think jill is jealous its personal
Notice how alot of women on mto have a problem with black men dating white woman but the moment mto puts up news about a black women dating a white man then its all you go girl and good for her!?! please believe in my experience those same women who have a problem with black men dating white women be the same chicks whos quick to turn a black man down whos tryna holla no matter how respectful his approach is but than your see them smiling in a white guys face, taking his number.....
Also, I am a black woman that loves my black father- no self hatred here. But the rest of these no good loser black men out there who only want to cheat, lie, have no goals, don't want to get an education, treat women badly. . .yall can have'em. Even the ones that are doing well are egomaniacs because black women are so thirsty for them that they have no reason to settle down. The year is 2010- not 1810. You segregation loving black women better wake up. Your truly "good black man" is 1 out of 1000. Adapt to your environment and broaden your horizons.
@kerrin, your statement could not be any more incorrect! Asians and hispanics DO NOT marry outside of their race commonly! And this is based on facts, not some faulty *ass survey. Sure, Europeans are viewed as the most "elite" race, and are preferably #1 world wide. But Asians AND Hispanics as a whole do not practice common interracial marriage ( in other words, they ain't down with the swirl, oggaahhhh! ) - shenehneh So do some more research before you try to sound like you know what you're talking about!
BLACK WOMEN DATE WHITE MEN! SO WHY IN THE HELL IS JILL SCOTT MAD AT BLACK MEN AND WHITE WOMEN? MY ANCESTORS DIDNT OWN NO SLAVES CAUSE OUR IRISH ASSES WERE BEING DISCRIMINATED AGAINST ALSO! U CAN LOOK THAT UP! MY FAMILY WAS IN THE SLUMS OF NEW YORK RUFFIN IT OUT WITH BLACK FOLK! JILL SHUT THE [EXPLETIVE] UP!!!!!!!!!!!
Hmmmmmm, I understand where Jill Scott is coming from. But for us to move forward as a Black community, we need to be able to learn to demarcate between acknowledging what happened in the past and being educated about how that transcends to the present day versus still being mentally bound by the shackles of the past. I think a lot of people who are posted here do not know the difference.
Because if some of you were properly informed of how historical forces of oppression shape modern society then this interracial dating point will be moot
@misshugrad Let me check you for a second. First of all, i did not generalize any women. Notice when I say SOME. SOME. Why? because they are some good ones and some bad one. I'm responding to the ones who have question about black men not being good black men because their are some good men but they are not getting looked because its so much focus on the bad and some women are focusing on them too much. the women in my past didn't leave a bad taste in my mouth because i'm not a bitter brother. I have my black women on the HIGH. Baby you really don't know me to try to check me. Seriously.LISTEN
I come from Brooklyn NY in an almost all black area East NY where I was the minority!!! My husband is a Black Man of West Indian decent. I am of mixed latina and white race but I am fair skinned. I see the racism from Black Women and at sometimes it almost starts a fight cause I'm not a softy like a BECKY!! Slavery is over! People can date who ever they want when I see white guys or latin guys with Black girls I'm all for it! Some of YALL NEED TO GET OVER IT!!!!And my husband aint a saint he's a criminal who changed his life but all black women when the see us frown up there face.get over it!!
@emmettmays85 Yes i am white and lilrisha is my nickname. My name is Meretia pronounced Merisha. Far from becky right? @evilangel I hate that so much i once talked to a guy and he said "if it aint light or white it aint right" i hate stupid ignorant stuff like that. I dont deal with it and when guys or people ask me what i am i hate that too it doesnt matter. I actually had a white guy try talking to me and when he asked what i was and i told him he was like oh i didnt know i only mess with light skinned or latinas and he said nice meeting you though what is that about.
I knew this comment section would be popping. Atleast this time it comes from an articulate source versus Reggie & KK. Sometimes in life a person truly does just happen 2 fall n luv with sum1 of the opposite race. I even did once with a coworker. The problem is too many blacks more than any other race are exclusively dating outside cus they feel it's an upgrade.
CONTD... A Harvard trained Critical Race Theorist Derrick Bell (A black man by the way, who quite teaching at harvard because they would not hire a black FEMALE professor, I say this, in case some of you, discount him for being a "sell out") talks about the convergence interest theories, that the plight of black peeps are only going to get better as a much faster rate if there is something to be benefited for the white man as well. Flowing from that theory, I do not see why anyone will want to advocate for keeping the "races" separate. I mean people should be allowed to date whoever they want
@misshugrad I'm puttting out what I see. You do have some black women treat white men greatly than black men. And sorry I did said Y'all. Sorry about that. But I don't have a sour taste in my mouth. If any sour taste I have is because this bash against black men is STILL GOING ON. We as blacks are fallin in relationship. Majority are not right in the mind. We are too divided. Everybody wanna be the boss instead of being co-CEOs. We blaming each other but not taking the responsibiity of our own actions.
Another view point could be that maybe it’s time for black women to start taking the bull by the horns and approaching the men that they want rather then waiting for one to come and find them….when I told this to my female cousin all she could do was laugh in my face as if it was beneath her to approach and ask a man out….the first words out of her mouth was “why do I have to do that when a white girl can just sit on her hands”…..and that’s when I said “well you’re the one that’s complaining about the situation”….and then I added on that she can sit around with her girlfriends and stew about how piss off that they are at black men for going with white/Asian/Latina women….but at the end of the day guys will only see them as sour chicks with attitude and will continue to avoid them….I guess that’s one of the big differences between black men and black women….guys just want to be happy by achieving their needs….women want to be happy but it has to come in a storybook way
OH LAWD!!!!! HOW IN THE F_UCK DO WE KNOW THAT THIS ESSAY ACTUALLY CAME FROM JILL SCOTT?!?! SMH! ALL THE BACK/FORTH BULLSH*T COULD BE ALL FOR NOTHING!!!! MTO IS PROBABLY LYING....AS USUAL!!! I'll NEED TO SEE AN ACTUALLY COPY OF THE ESSAY BEFORE I COME AT POSTERS FOUL AND UN-LADY LIKE...STOP REACHING MTO!!!
Black women dont worry about the black man anymore. Just start doing you. Cause when you start doing you. An kno longer want the black man. Kno other race will either. They only want what black women want. Cause without you the black man want be sh!t.
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These IRR threads always leave me confused and mystified. I’m confused because I am fully aware that IRR isn’t just exclusively between Black men and White women…yet, hearing some of you on here…it would make it seem as if, IRR is only a black man’s disease.
Again, what are you upset about? Are you upset that black man is fukking some non-black broad?...Are you upset because you believe that black men who dates IRR are basing it on their fall-out or distaste for some black women…or are you upset about IRR in general? Be specific in your response?
Because, if you are upset about IRR then, clearly I’ve seem more fronting from black women on here, who claimed they are involved in IRR and are happy about it. In fact, there are more posters of black women with their white boyfriends and husbands on their Avi, promoting them as white Gods…in fact, there are more usernames of women on here that express their love for white men..
Again, I ask you broads on here…what is your real issue?
I find it interesting, that even a purported Tranny would come on a public Blog to express his dislike about who some anonymous black man is fukking…and encouraging black woman to “Just Start doing You”. Isn’t’ that odd? What is your agenda? Are you really a tranny or some MTO concoctions design to make a mockery of the Negro?
Ahahah!!! You women have away of cheapening your arguments and stances on these issues. You are too emotional and ruled by your feelings. Yet…despite all of the statistics and number on IRR…you are still hell-bent on believing your on made-up concoctions.
To my historians on here…many of you American Negroes have mix blood…not because of the Negro male fukking the Master’s white wife…it’s the other way around.
My argument is simple…if you disapprove of IRR, then disapproves them all…if you approve of one…then approves them all…if you are going to throw fire, throw flames at them all
The moment you began making excuses for some group versus others, your entire argument will fall on death’s ear…it make you sound painfully bitter and pathetic.
CONTD, and if they choose members from another race, and have mixed children, do you agree that that white mother or white father, might be more sympathetic to the cause of the oppressed group, seeing that their partner or child belongs to that group?? I mean is that a possibility? I just say this, because I am not one to dwell on historical injustices as much as it PAINS me. I d rather devise ways to at least help ameliorate the consequences of said injustices. And I just do not see how a black man dating a white woman OR a black women dating a white man, can be detrimental to this cause.
2: blk women Most of u do frown up when u see a blk man with a white woman stop it & don't stare. They just get a rise out of it. U kno most of the time their ugly or out of shape anyways aka a white mans reject.
To BM date Becky all u want just dint stereotype & disrespect BW n the process. To WW: Quit being so insensitive. U will never understand what it's like 2b black. I adopt a black skinned African child & watch then come home many days crying from getting teased about their hair texture & skin color.
@jayanderson07:
There are sistas on this thread talking about all sorts of things. I’LL SCROLL up to see WHERE black women are saying “bad” things about black men in this thread. Seems like most of us were discussing black men dating outside their race. Here you come with the “some of ya’ll dont deserve good men”. For some REASON your brain automatically went to this rant about bad apples.
Take it a STEP HIGHER and respond to those of us who are living life successfully.
And no one is trying to "check you". Why the sensitivity and defensiveness? Please don't tell me your gonna be a black man who cant handle a black woman with a strong opinion. Next I’m gonna be called “bitter” right? It’s called a DISCUSSION. Can you handle that brotha?
OH! And another thing that ive noticed with this interracial thing. When a blk man, and even a blk woman, gets a in a relationship with someone white, they r married within a few years. Conversely, when blk men/blk women get into a relationship with a blk person, they could b dating for 10 yrs sometimes with CHILDREN, they STILL very rarely get married. U cant tell me this is only by chance.
Educate yourself, playing ignorant is even more insulting to the matter. It has been less than 70 years, of us Having a newfound freedom. My brother's don't forget Emitt Till. Wolves in Sheep Clothing. Do some history homework...read what your parents, grandparents, uncles, and aunties went through to give you the right to speak freely NOW!
In Jill Scott entire essay she explain how she felt about IR dating, But she never once gave valid reason as to what's wrong with it! Or the harm of it! Only at the end of her essay did she say how sistas with fatherless babies could use those *Successful blk men*... I challenge anyone in hear to give me a valid reasoning why IR dating is wrong, and Why people should date and marry only of there own color!
You got to remember alot of women have bad experience from black males since the age of 16. Some of them wanna date an older men thinking they on the same level as them. Don't know that older men can trick a young chik on doing things he want her to do. Some of y'all went against what daddy want you to date. He want you to date a good brother, but no you wanna date the bad boy. And when you date a few more and get your heart broken you want to be mad and bitter and say all men are dawgs when daddy TOLD YOU From the beginning get the good brother.
@kerrin: Hispanic isn't a race but a nationality/heritage/culture. Not trying to use myself as an example but I was born & raised in Honduras,Central America but I'm still very much a black woman or Afro-Hispanic...just saying Hispanics just like AA/Blacks come in all shades with an array of physical features.
@AzShun: AGREED.
LMAO at people thinking we have come THAT far. The biggest difference today is that it is INSTITUTIONALIZED RACISM. But i'm not surprised, these kids today are so self-absorbed. They have a LONG way to go. Hopefully one day they'll get there.
And if the way the GOP is treating Barack isn't proof ENOUGH of the REALITY of this country's attitude towards people of color, I don't know what is.
@misshugrad Yeah some women don't deserve a good brother just like some men don't deserve a good woman. Some ppl can't handle what a good man brings to the table. Some don't know how to deal with a good man because their common sense are not shaped right because all the bs she's been through. Why would a good man should date a woman who don't know how to treat a man good, who to be a good woman, be a good mother to kids, etc. Damn I if don't know how to be a good man, WHY do I deserve a good woman. Ppl got to get their MIND RIGHT. POINT BLANK. And this is a debate. lol. I LOVE THE CHALLENGE.
What we embody is everything 'they' could and would not understand. To indulge everyday, knowing you are sneered at, and looked down upon, we still hold our head high in the air, proving you, nor 'they', will break me from this fight. We are NOT confused, however YOU are, the unspeakable remaints from that day when YOU were bound and gagged, and did NOT even have an IDENTITY, YOU were their farm machines, maids, as well as beating bag when 'They' had a bad day. You make it look easy to forget, we make it hard. We fight hard to make sure there is a relevence to our being, You do not.
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Re-Read the essay and tell me that she didn't articulate the shyte out of her thesis! Very well received, so I am interested in reading more of her work! Hey tiplite I read ur responses the other day to Manifest and it was impressive! BTW, Jill is making her opinion known! This type of writing is the same content that Hill Harper was spewing & we see who he choose as a mate.
@misshugrad-Thanks love! I'm glad I'm hearing from someone besides MTO. Lol! Thanks for correction. :) @Da_advocator-Once again, your intelligent has shown through. Granted, your post are raw, uncut and hard to digest but you never disrespect anyone by calling them words of profanity and slinging mud and doing "the dozen". Two thumbs up (wink).
The whole point is to forget about the bridge that brought you over so you date outside of "black" or if you do date a black women that is brown or dark, make sure you keep reminding her that you could do better (white or biracial) so she should be grateful. That has been the game for 10 years. I am all for exercising options in 2010.
IR dating is not wrong but noone should date exclusively outside their race it doesn't make theoritical sense. What possible reason could one have? What is this preference it should not include generalizing or European features. If I have a son I will encourage him to marry a good moral, educated BW, becus their is a shortage of educated, black 2 parent homes. Hey Tastysis
@akademics7 Some of them don't know. They think a woman who handle her business, take care of their kids and take no ish from a man or anybody.
I'ma dude and my grandma and many other elder old skool told me that saying is true but not he answer. A strong black woman is a person who weathering many storm and still keep a good character. Meaning that if a negro dawgs them they will keep their head up high and move on. Not slashing tires, keying cars, cutting his penis or calling and stalking. She keeps a good smile on her face and move on.
My question is who really wants to be with a black man anyway. They are nothing but trouble - even the succesful ones.
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There you go...yet, despite the fact that many of you women feel this way about the black man, you still bitch and complain about who he is fukking.
Why? is it about control? is it about abandonment? Is it about jealousy? Do you want white women for yourselves? It is about making yourself appear better and bigger than the black man?
What is it about? ahahah!! Please enlighten me..
If everybody was as narrow-minded as she is there wouldn't be a man of color in the White House; not that I agree on everything he does. I guess she wouldn't mind if a crackhead black man married a white woman since she placed the emphasis on successful. This is a trip, how you gonna tell grown folks who and what they should marry nowadays. And it seems that the more people speak against it the more folks gonna F**K you they want. Besides, it is a two-way street. Black dudes and white women do freaky things together.
@tiplite2004 she said nothing of the sort that IR is wrong. she simply took the time out to explain how she felt and justified her feelings through the essay. i completely understand where shes coming from. its not wrong @ all to date outta of ur race however this is and forever will be a personal issue among blk men & woman. its like we blk women were blk mens backbone through the worst of times and when things looked seemingly better they go and date from the exact same race that had hated us for so many yrs wat a slap in the face.
@emmetmay:
Well when caucasian people have been enslaved for 400+ years and their motherland has been exploited almost past recovery THEN it can be called "hypocrisy". Until that day comes us, even if I wanted to, I couldn't even come close to comparing the history of blacks versus whites and all of our present day conditions. Two COMPLETELY different playing fields. Like comparing apples to oranges.
I wouldn't even disrespect our ancestors and their struggle by calling black attitudes "racist". That's an insult.
Jill, you answered your own questions. Yes, you are jealous of the white woman, and the favor she received. You're angry and bitter about it, understandably so.
But LET ME ASK YOU A QUESTION. HOW does holding onto that bitterness benefit your life?? You are successful and gorgeous and no one is denying you of any freedoms today.
The sting you feel has alot more to do with your own insecurities, than anything that man or woman has done to you. You are giving away your power by placing BM on the same pedestal WW were once placed on. Let it go....
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I am of African decent & was born in America! Africa & Hati r suffering at the hands of the Europeans! Why is it pausable 4 me 2 discuss the damage that goes on in a country that I am not a native of, when we have our own problems here! This is the topic of the day! Not Hati, & not Africa. Stick 2 the subject or leave! This topic goes much deeper than who a brotha chooses 2 wife. I wouldn't expect u 2 understand, or delve deeper than the surface.
IR dating is not wrong but noone should date exclusively outside their race it doesn't make theoritical sense. What possible reason could one have?
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Ok...so you argument is one person, should date exclusively outside of their race. So, a black man can marry a white woman, just as long he had dated or fukk black women in the past?
My question to you is...how many black men versus black women you know date exclusively outside of their race...meaning they have never dated their own?
I am a business woman, with degrees to match, Not racist, however outspoken, passion is always behind my thoughts, I appeal to every race, I do not see my self beneath anyone, however I am above my own expectations. Raised Southern Baptist, and so so blessed. He makes it impossible to NOT see. Bring up each other.
I agree with Jill Scott. Blackmen have no respect for the Black race, Culture or Family anymore. Like Jill, I find, it EXTREMELY DISTRUBING when I see any Blackman with a white woman.
It is such a loss, and it is dishearting to see it. I guess, Blackmen feel so much better with a Becky on their arm until white society lets them know how they really feel about them.
I saw her in a preview of her new movie and she portrays exactly the kind of black woman we don't want. Loud, angry, threatening to kick her man's ass, mean as a snake. She couldn't hold her first marriage together, she couldn't hold on to her second baby daddy now she is breathing fire. This woman needs to check her attitude and figure out why men keeping running away from her fat angry ass.
Even though Ms. Scott placed her words in a very eloquent manner and I respect her for giving an opinion however I’m going to have to disagree. First of all, there is no ownership between Black men and women. Why in the world does she feel her “soul is burning” whenever she sees a Black man with a white woman? How is this or why is this going to affect her? Many sistas as well as many brothas have this automatic assumption whenever they see a BM with a WW or WM with BW that he/she is a sellout when 9 times out of 10 (10/10 lol) they don’t even know the men or women and their reasons for dating. It seems to me that the reason why people pay attention to other people’s relationships because they’re not in one or are in one but are not satisfied. I really don’t understand why many people are getting their panties in a bunch when the OVERWHEMLING majority of BM date or marry BW and vice versa. No matter what their social-economic status, BM gravitates towards BW and its well over 90%. The rest are in interracial relationships (which is less than or close to 10%). The comparison of the two percentages is not significant. There’s this racial fear mongering that has been imposed towards the Black community making many believe that when BM they become successful or remotely successful that they ALWAYS go grab a WW. Now in SOME cases yes, that does happen but many people especially BW believe that occurs every time when in fact it doesn’t happen as often as they would think. I think the media has a major role into this mentality. In the case of BM, the ones who are very popular (entertainers, businessmen, athletes, and political figures) that are in interracial relationships are GOING to receive the most attention from the media. The ones who are dating or marrying within their own race, do not get the same attention as those who are outside. The media does not focus on things or events that happen within the norm but rather look at different occurrences because that would be boring to the public. This distorts or alters the perception of many BM/BW as they are continually being bombarded with things such as what’s been stated above and do not happen on a grand scale. Maybe it’s because I’m a man but I really don’t understand why so many BW feel the way Jill Scott does when there’s SO MUCH evidence that goes against this. Now I want to digress a little, when I hear a BW say that there’s a shortage of “good” BM, I say to them “Do you think you deserve one?”.
@ all to date outta of ur race however this is and forever will be a personal issue among blk men & woman. its like we blk women were blk mens backbone through the worst of times and when things looked seemingly better they go and date from the exact same race that had hated us for so many yrs wat a slap in the face
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That's another myth...you being the backbone...i would make a case for that several centuries ago...not today...not the moment you were transplanted to the the "Americas"...the backbone was broken long ago
It is such a loss, and it is dishearting to see it. I guess, Blackmen feel so much better with a Becky on their arm until white society lets them know how they really feel about them.
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i agree...now go get you a white boy and show black men how proud you are...
ahahaha!!! again you sound pathetic...
My problem is that ppl date outside because of the hate they have with their race. "I can't find a good black man, so I'ma go white.". "I'ma date a white woman, because I see nothing but baby making gold digging sistas." And thats just BS. If you date outside, do it because you find the person LIKEABLE. Doing it because you tired of black men or black women is just a cornball statement. You just had bad choices.
another thing alot of successful [EXPLETIVE] come from da hood filled hoodrat bitches who love thugs and they did'nt want the educated [EXPLETIVE], these [EXPLETIVE] were called pussies a becuase they did'nt have a criminal record, or bullet wounds, bitches thought they were soft becuase they treated these hoes with respect , these hoes chose the bum ass [EXPLETIVE] who aint [EXPLETIVE] over them and when these bum ass knock these hoes up and abandon them with a bastard child they lookin stupid and wonder why the [EXPLETIVE] who got they [EXPLETIVE] together dont wanna be bothered with them
@liquidcracc... I understand... Blk Women and blk men where together exclusively for 1000's of years but the last 400 years we where force to only date one another because of fear of what would happen if u jump that fence! Now... The blk men are not like me.. They are not just fuc.king these women of different races! They're marrying them which means they love them and we all know u can not control the heart..
Saying that, Black men need to wise up and take care of business. Keep your asses in school, learn a trade, stop popping out babies with different women, stop partying all the time and grow up
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Great...I like that...bravo...every black men should expire to greatness...
Now..what does that have to do with IRR?
I for one am not an advocate of mixing the races. Although the children don't have a choice, it just causes too many problems. We are living in the judgement now! My thing is why after 6,000 years all of a sudden everybody is equal. Those snakes are using their last weapon to take you to the fire with them!
If a large number have a allowed black men to reduce them to big booty-shaking ghetto-fabulous chicken-heads on strip poles in denigrating rap videos, what is there left to respect & uphold about black females who accept being called every dirty name in the book and reduced to worthless babies mommas? Jill you married your so-called Black Prince, what happened? Check yourself, love & relationship is more than just a color. Stop being bitter & stuck in back in the day. Back in the day, Black men respected & courted Black women.
The blk men are not like me.. They are not just fuc.king these women of different races! They're marrying them which means they love them and we all know u can not control the heart..
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You make marriage sound like an unbroken covenant and a stamp of true love...for every marriage there is a divorce...
The whole institution of marriage is cheapen...hell, even a "guy" like sexytranny can get married....it's overrated....
This whole system is overrated. So, i wouldn't base your argument on which race of men are marrying which race of women.
Just think about it for a second. They didn't start pushing this agenda ( irr) until the most honorable and humble Elijah Muhammad exposed them as devils. Then all of a sudden it was everybody is equal, and we should all love one another. How anyone can put 6,000 years of documented history out of their minds is insane!
i can say this JILL hit the nail on the head she is saying what a lot of black intelligent succesful black sisters want to say and that is a fact she touched some seriouse points that we realist can relate to we can all walk around like it aint so.....yes it is so....racism still exist it has been lingering like a rhino virus but since we have OBAMA it has now brought its uglyness back to the front of the line......every other race can voice there opinion and nothing is said but when the race of all kinda shades of black take that opportunity...the answer is always get pass this get over that..
@AlonzoE: riiiight, so all black women are loud and mean as a snake? Thats the type YOU have been choosing to interact with.
@emmettmay: I notice a lot of brothas have the same mentality as you do - we shut down the smart brothas and went for the thugs?
To me this seems like many black men seriously internalized getting turned down by a black women - maybe sometime in elementary or h.s. I know men are more sensitive than they let on, but when will you let that go? Release whatever experience happened to you. There are PLENTY of good sistas out there who will appreciate you.
I for one am not an advocate of mixing the races. Although the children don't have a choice, it just causes too many problems. We are living in the judgement now! My thing is why after 6,000 years all of a sudden everybody is equal. Those snakes are using their last weapon to take you to the fire with them!
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These delusional negroes know they not equal, no matter how many white men or white women they fukk...
They know that...they are grasping for straws...A Negro will always be a Negro to any Caucasian... and the let the liberal talk fool you.
as usual the only logical blog ive read so far:
My argument is simple…if you disapprove of IRR, then disapproves them all…if you approve of one…then approves them all…if you are going to throw fire, throw flames at them all
The moment you began making excuses for some group versus others, your entire argument will fall on death’s ear…it make you sound painfully bitter and pathetic. *******
If blacks are not mating with other blacks, then who are making black people? You can embrace your culture and that does not mean you are anti-white. In about 50 years, America will consist of mixed people and true blacks will not exist in America. Remember, it takes black women to create the black men that women of all races love. When you mix, you are eliminating black men too because white or non black women cannot create the Morris HCestnuts and Blair Underwoods. God created that way, so why are we having a problem with it?
Both bm & bw have issues --real shocker. We both complain about the other side concerning IR dating, ignorant baby mommas & daddies, lack of respect twds & for each other & a whole myriad of issues. We have both intelligent & ignorant people in our community--the problem is that the ignorant ones do the most & loudest talking i.e. the need to be seen. Dig deep enough and both bm & bw can uncover a lifetime worth of dirt & issues on each other. Nobody is better than anybody...period! There's nothing wrong w/"schooling" anyone so long as you've learned all your lessons first.
@emmettmays85 It's true! I didn't say all. This excludes the hardworking, educated men with value. Most of you are rightfully taken and there are not enough of you available. This is a result of most of hour men being in gangs or coming out of prison. That experience lead some being on the DL. Go to the black inner cities & see for yourself or see how many times your propositioned by a gay or DL man. Most doesn't include all Black men. Statistics, STDs, baby daddys, prison rate do not lie!
@sexytranny Yeah some of them do that. I get that. Let it be known that you have black men who help black women believing themselves and support them and respect them. YET they get called weak. What about the fathers who STAYED and raise their daughter and she treat the no good negro better than her own FATHER. You got some black men who handle their business as a family man, but the same wife will let her friends throw him under the bus and she will never defend him.
Wow Jill Scott is a fat scorned blackwomen who needs to let it go. Its 2010 and most blackmen would want a whitewomen over her.
Also IR are on the rise and blackwomen are finding happiness with non blackmen.
Also the Becky name is getting old and annoying. Most whitewomen dont date blackmen anyway. Also many are strong and spoiled and have high expectations. Blackmen only get the stupid ones. Blackwomen stuck in the past will only suffer more.
Thank you Jill Scott for being that strong black woman to speak for so many of us. I do remember a young boy named Emmet Till, whose eye was cut from his head because he spoke to a white woman. Black men have walked away from us as young girls/children, and then again as women. Suddenly again, we are not good enough, are kids can't be pretty enough, (unless they are mixed), and we don't know how to act. It seems that once they finished using and abusing us, they moved on to whitey, and left our beds stone cold empty.
f blacks are not mating with other blacks, then who are making black people? You can embrace your culture and that does not mean you are anti-white. In about 50 years, America will consist of mixed people and true blacks will not exist in America.
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I love hearing fools speak on race mixing as if it will improve your standing in this world...ahahaha!!!!...
Tell me how many mix breeds are running things...and better yet, how have they improve the Negro Condition here and on the Continent?
After reading some of the comments on this website, I can see how easy it is to enslave and brainwash black people. We have been braisnwashed to feel guilty when we exude black pride because whites cannot deal with our unity. Whites did not burn down our churches and businesses because they were bored. They did it because they do not want blacks to prosper. White men and women do not want their children to mix outside their race but they deal with it if it means to destroy and not help the black community.
Some good black man don't stand out to black women till they with somebody else. Guys that come up to you with proper english, respect, and serious goals are overlooked. Some good men don't provide that thrill that a street dude with game may provide. I'm black and heard I talk proper so I wasn't they type. Had a latin on my arm then I got called Wesley Snipes. Don't think some even know what they want but go out blaming black men. I'm going where I can have me a WIFE, no matter what race.
When will we let go of our adolescent tween-age angst! I was called chocobliss all thru middle school by blk boys and it didn't make me want to date a hispanic or white boy when I grew up! U dudes need to let that sheet go already! How old r u now? We all were treated poorly at one point or another by blacks because that is all we were around! Its not a consipacy! If u grow up around nothing but whites, and u r the only black u will find flaws in them too! Stop the bafoonary
"Jealousy" has NOTHING 2 do with "black women" being disenChanted with upstanding "black men" choosing caucasion "women";treatn them like "queens". It's devastating. It's as if "credible black men" look down on "us" once they're "made" opting for other races or even going GAY, rather than be with a black woman_We hold it "down" for our men and go "thru..." only to be disgarded...shame,Just an observatn. JILL SCOTT, LOVE YA My Sister, keep on keepn it real!
@CeWest asks what about black women dating white men?
Earlier i typed: I wish someone would do a study bc i have a feeling WAY more black men date interracially then black women.
And this is NOT all by our choice. CLEARLY we are generally viewed at the bottom of the totem pole by men of other races. But a lot of men do not give us the time of day like they will other races.
Earlier I said, the reason mainly black women complain about this is: #1 the HISTORY behind it. self-explanatory. #2: many black men who date IR, it rubs us as you all reaching a certain income level and so it become a status symbol, or seeing them as “easier” to deal with.
When black women do it, many may have grown tired of what they see as black men not appreciating us. OR we just fall in love with someone. Generally we do NOT do it as a status thing.
But I dont think we can compare black women dating IR to black men dating IR because it DEF seems like black men have been doing WAY more of it.
Why are there such staggering differences in the numbers? I could be wrong, but I’m gonna have to speak on the assumption that more black men date IR than black women. And that should be a COMPLIMENT to you brothas! Be flattered instead of telling us we need to stop being “bitter”.
OF COURSE there are black women dating IR that have gotten sick and tired of dating black men. And as a matter of fact, I encourage more black women to do this.
I DONT have a prob with black men dating IR, I do have an issue with it when they try to demonize all black women as if we are LACKING in some area. That is offensive to us, especially considering the struggle that have faced and continue to face, which we EXPECT you to understand, as our black brothers. OF COURSE it burns to the core, when you all start attacking us and our personality differences, esp considering the way white women have historically been put high on the “beauty” pedestal in society.
@sexytranny Have you ever HEARD A BLACK MAN SAY HE CAN DO WITHOUT A WOMAN? HELL NO. there are some black men who believe that. As a whole NO. because you got some who don't believe and some who feed from women that they don't wanna believe it. Just like now. You got women who believe that their are no good black men. but they are. some don't believe because they pick the wrong ones and fall from that and you got some who just negative.
Jill is just speaking her mind and while slavery is over, you cannot ask us to forget the past and "get over it". The ones who say this are the first ones to use the effects of slavery as an explanation for why they are not successful. The fact is there are more Black men dating outside of their race than any other. As such, it is hard for a Black woman to find a suitable partner and there aren't mass amounts of White men willing to marry Black women but you will see mass amounts of Black men willing to marry White women. I'm all for IR but the proportions are skewed. Just saying...
@QueenieE last i noticed, fckn someone of the opposite race never brought along world piece. relationships don't change how one race views another. there are a lot more issues concerning race than whether people date interracially.
i commend Jill on her story and i think it was very well put. i can't even count how many times i've heard black guys talk shi.t about black females. a woman is a woman no matter what her race and if you can't take being with one, then that's just your problem. i'm fine with either race, but i'm most comfortable with black guys. it's OK to admit it people!! lol
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Black men and women, when one of us beat the odds, lets help another black woman or black man beat the odds to. White women are taught to marry men of high status, with money, someone who will generate attention; she is not considered being a gold digger but being smart. Black women that try and do the same thing, are considered GD's. White women will always play games because they know they will always win. They are beloved by their people and by others over their own. What a wonderful position.
@da_advocator Is It Any Of There Business Who We Fuking Can't We Fuk Who Ever We Want to Fuk? Is It Our Fault That They Are Soooo Insecure?
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no question...any Negro, male and female will fukk whomever they want...with or without my approval.
Now, with that said...fukk whomever you like...in the grander scheme of things...you are still a Negro and will die a Negro...no matter how many non-black broads you fukk..
@scodelic Exactly. I'm educated and all. I hide my toughness because thats what a good man do. Hide his toughness unless he has to defend his family. Good man get put on the self like a teddy bear and never touch. Some chicks just wanan hold on to us after they buff Rico, Lil Bo Dat, 50, etc. Then when some of them done got beating and hurt they want us to be there for her and the 8 kids by 10 different dudes.
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You are using white women as your role model...really?
Even white men are running away from them by hoards...
Are you serious?...ahahahaha!!!!No wonder you black women are single...you emulating the wrong group...
Go ask a white man how he really feels about his whtie woman...but, make sure there are no cameras...otherwise, he won't speak the truth.
I am out
This woman had two black men drove them both off. She is malicious and full of herself. She goes to her friend's wedding and sees that he is happy and it burns her soul? To see other couples happy burns her soul because she is unhappy and can't hold on to her relationships. it is time for her to look at herself and figure out what she is doing wrong instead of worrying about what other folks are doing.
@Kerrin, Bxtch, A:how am i being a muhhphuckin hypocrite? B: the only reason they do that sh*t is to get a *[EXPLETIVE] citizenship an hopefully some damn wealth. C: I've lived all over the U.S. and i currently reside in the bay (one of the most diverse places in America) and you specifically targeted Filipinos which couldn't have made your *ass sound any dumber. Flips look down upon marrying someone of another race, especialy black, both here in the U.S. and in the Philippines! The same with mexicans, so quit basing your shiht off of statistics(which are often wrong)and get a primary source, bxtch
@sexytranny You wanna get on black men. What about the black women who are not making good selection and blaming all men for their bad choices? What about the sisters who diss good black men? Talk about that. You forget that men are a big part of the black race as well. What about the brothers who don't get no respect? The good brothers? ANSWER THAT. reason why voices are not heard is because they'll get CALLED A PUNK by WOMEN as well as some men.
U SISTAS KILL ME ALWAYS TALKIN BOUT U HATE BROTHAS WIT A WHITEGIRL I MEAN Y WE ONLY SEE DIS WIT MOSTLY YALL AND NO OTHER RACE OF WOMEN I MEAN STOP IT ALREADY U LIKE DA PRESIDENT WHO IS FROM BLACKMAN/WHITEGIRL RELATIONSHIP BUT U HATE OTHER BROTHAS WHO AINT WIT SOMEBODY WHO LOOKLIKE YALL STOP HATIN AND DISCRIMINATING DIS ONE OF DA REASONS YALL ALWAYS TALKIN BOUT YALL CANT FIND A GOODMAN CAUSE YALL NOT DIVERSE LIKE DA BROTHAS IT AINT BOUT COLOR SISTAS BRAINS/BEAUTY HAVE NO COLOR WE ALL LOOK ALIKE ONDA INSIDE.
I think it's simply a fear black women have, that black men with options are not choosing black women when he can choose "other", beacuse he finds them more beautiful. It's not about slavery or the past, it's about black womens insecurity about their appearance in comparison to long haired beauties of other ethnicities. My two cents anyway.
misshugrad i dont have problem with gettin hoes , im just talkin bout the [EXPLETIVE] who the hoes overlooked because they wasnt gangsta , and im sorry but the succesful black men who has they [EXPLETIVE] together that are with white women did not grow up havin sista after them which is why they went to a white woman or non black women are the few sistas who wanted a [EXPLETIVE] with they [EXPLETIVE] 2gether
steelereers)it is what it is they are considered as becky's because there is nothing they wont do and lets get this understood......90% of the mix relationships especially in hollyhood if that black man dont have $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.....there will be no way they can bring them home to there momma with out that cash$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$...trust
Intelligent_Miss
Speak on it! It is the intent of the media to over looks and not put to the forefront Slavery and Racism! When is the last time Roots, Sankofa or Rosewood came on T.V.? Whites do not like race mixing because they don't want their daughter to be tainted by the black sweat of the African Slave unless he has a wicked Jump shot! LOL! Then mixing isn't so bad, plus it would appear that mixed black men r far less intimidating then a full on black Adonis!
MTO IF YOU WERE GOING TO LEAVE IT ALONE YOU WOULDNT HAVE POSTED THIS SHYT.
AND WHO CARES ABOUT JILL'S FAT AZZ. THIS IS BITTERNESS AT ITS BEST. JILL'S HUSBAND LEFT HER THEN HER FIANCE LEFT HER RIGHT AFTER. SO SHE BITTER AS HELL THAT HER FAT AZZ CANT KEEP A MAN. AND INSTEAD OF LOOKING IN THE MIRROR TO UNDERSTAND WHY SHE WANNA BLAME THE WHITE WOMAN.
JILL IT AINT THE WHITE WOMAN FAULT YOU CANT KEEP A MAN. PUT THE FORK DOWN AND STOP MAKING SONGS ABOUT EATING FRITS AND SHYT AND CHECK YOUR ATTITUDE (ANYBODY WHO SEEN THIS CHICK LIVE KNOW SHE GOT ONE) AND MAYBE YOU CAN KEEP A MAN AND STOP HATING.
"It's as if "credible black men" look down on "us" once they're "made" opting for other races or even going GAY, rather than be with a black woman_We hold it "down" for our men and go "thru..." only to be disgarded...shame"
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one more thing....who new so many of you were that pathetic....honestly...if this is the lot of black women to which to choose from....I understand why some choose to stay away...
ahahaha....hey, If within the next hour a black man don't smile or look at you...then, I would make sure there is no unsuspecting odor leaking from one of your orifices...I find it hard that so many available black women would have so much hard time attracting eager black men
hahahah!!! I get it…these black men aren’t millionaires….so, you probably dismissed them ….As Jill Scott so lovely put, he has to be rich….in order to be considered successful….
You broads have missed the boat…if you waiting for a baller….pick a number….there are 1000s of women in line waiting for the same thing….ahahaha!!!
I am out…
Yes, this is it, Jill. "Brothers" love to emulate everything the White man does and has--right down to his raggedy women. Another fact about today's "brother" is when presented with these facts, he goes on the defensive because like white men, he hates to be accused. Recalled what I've stated about the bones of the Black Woman being found solely. The Strong Black Man can't be found for miles around!!!
@emmettmays85 I have to agree. I went to a black school from K to 11, I wasn't getting alot of love from the sistas because i was short. But when i got to a white school in my senior year the white girls show me MAD LOVE. And the black girls were mad. Some ppl just don't bother you until u have something or when they see somebody else showin you love. Even Laura Winslow didn't start liking Steve Urkel until he dated Myra. Myra's not white but you get the picture.
I agree with her, but I'm not jealous. I do see where she's coming from. Jill, you're just adding more fuel to the fire. I think most black enjoy making black women mad or at least they think majority of y'all are mad. Some of the white women actually think they're more superior than the black woman because of all the b.s. the black man been running back telling her. The white woman can have that headache, honestly. That's all they are anyway.
misshugrad ah ha u just proved what i been saying all along and that is no one ever question the validity of a black women /white man relationship, but the black man /white women relationship is awlays put under the microscope and people question the motive behind their relationship so basically u are saying black women love with a white man is more genuine than a black man love with a white women? hypocrisy at its finest, also i find it funny when people talk bad about black men in IR dating but they embrace people like obama
@sexytranny But do you really THINK that a brother would let a white person call a black woman a "b" face up and let them get away with it. HELLLLLLLLL NO. you comparing internet to visual. You got talk shows and NOBODY DEFENDS black men. Why are their no positive talking for black men? Its all about baby daddy. WHOS THE BABY DADDY? IS HE THE BABY DADDY? WHAT KINDA MESSAGE IS THAT?
@emmettmays85 YOU HIT IT ON THE SPOT DUDE. You don't hear them talking about Halle dating a white man. Sanaa Lathan and other successful black women dating outside. You don't hear women bashing them. You hear "Well she probably got dawg by black men" or "Thats good for her get your white man girl. Black men are dating outside why can't we"
@Heaven. Jill has been married to a black man and engaged to another black man after that marriage ended, so getting a black man isn't a problem. Keeping one is. And who’s to say they were keepers. I think a lot of you need to work on your comprehension. In short, Jill Scott is stating she doesn't have a problem with interracial dating, relationships, or marriages. She is more so perplexed by interracial dating considering the race relations with African Americans and Caucasians in the past, which is merely only a few generations ago. It wasn't that long ago before whites were lynching African American men for looking at white women or white women were lying on black men and falsely accusing them of rape. STILL HAPPENS TODAY ACTUALLY! Furthermore, Jill is pondering why many successful black men fall in the arms of a white woman or non black woman instead of another successful beautiful black woman. Especially since there are MORE successful black women then they're are black men since many black men are more likely to imprisoned, killed, or never finish high school... She has no problem with interracial relationships if it's all in the sake of true love. And she's not at all saying she is the judge on who loves whom for real and who doesn't BUT is clear to see when a white women is with a black man only for what he has and not who he is, so she cannot be okay with that relationship.
@sexytranny And now we are pushing back because black men are tried of black women bashing us and nobdy is telling them the true about things. Y'all wanna hear us but don't wanna hear the truth. We the blame for failure relationship right? WRONG. All bad ending relationship is not always the man fault. We are tired of hearing "ain't no good brothers" when u got so many. You just don't have some women who want a good black man and don't know how to KEEP HIM. Men don't want DIVAS we want REAL WOMEN.
Jill Scott has issues in her life that she needs to address instead of being resentful and jealous about the happiness in the lives of others. I saw a different side of her a few years ago when a few of my friends and I went to a signing of her poetry book. She appeared to have her nose in the air and behaved as though she was doing us a favor by selling us her book instead of the other way around. Her attitude was haughty and snobbish and I can see why she would have trouble maintaining a relationship where she was not worshipped like a queen. And she was treating black women this way.
And if some of you disagree with Jill, why do you feel the need to call her fat, bitter, phony etc? Talk about throwing her album in the trash? Really?
Takes away your opinion's credibility.
The woman is entitled to her opinion and i agree plenty of black people who agree with her. Are we all fat, bitter, and phony?
the funny part about this is MOST black men are with BLACK WOMEN
get over it about the random one or two black men that date OTHER some people (black women) just dont want to see anyone happy even if they are with the person cause they are in love. the world has changed dramatically in the past 100 years. if we all live just in the past what is our future going to be
I am 4 diffrent races myself so i guess thats why i dont give a shyt your body and skin dies when you die and trust me we are all equal in gods eyes...
CARRY ON
I can definitely respect her standpoint, and I'm sure a lot of other black women understand where she is coming from whether they want to admit it or not. I don’t think she is taking issue with the concept of interracial dating/marriage. I think the issue is the fact that when many black men reach a certain socioeconomic status, they look to white/mixed women to validate their success. It wouldn’t be a big deal if these interracial situations were based on true love alone, but we all know that many of them aren’t. And we also know that black women are often excluded from the successful black man’s search for a mate. She spoke the truth and the truth is often tough to hear, but still very necessary.
i aint gon waste my time reading these comments. i love jill even more. i like how shes not afraid to speak her mind. its called freedom of speech. but her bank account gon be burning. every entertainer should know u cant publicy disrespect the white woman. look at kanye. or the half white with green eyes, look at chris brown. LOL their protected.
She also had some uncalled for snide remarks to say about Erykah Badu a while back when Miss Badu hadn't said a word about her. Jill seems difficult and argumentative and it is obvious that she is mad at the world over her failed marriage and subsequent failed engagement to the father of her son. It is time for her to look inward to discover the major cause of her unhappiness, and not to begrudge the happiness that black men find with other women. Jill is using this black man-white woman paradigm as an excuse to mask her own inner demons as to why she fails at relationships.
Thisis10
If u want to get into semantics Halle is bi-racial (and can date whom ever she wants and without getting a a back lash) and Janet dated Jermaine Dupree for yrs and married to a latino. Not a white boy. She is pointing out y sucessful bm go for white women. Halle and Janet didn't do that. Janet also dated Q-tip.
I can see where Jill is coming from because I felt this way once on a "flip side".
I was upset when I saw one of my fellow good looking, "together" Latino brothers go off an commit to a white girl but in retrospect I was 16 and immature and the Latino male in question was my ex bf who had just dumped me and then hooked up with a white girl and I was bitter, so I do have to question where here feelings truly stem from. I know she is no longer with her child's father.
I agree with jill scott, this has to be the most candid opinion I have ever heard in a long time.
The f_ck with cave dwelling white bytches, if jim crow was still in place these dog smelling wh_res would be crying out rape just like they use to do yrs ago. Then the brainwashed eurocentric black men are on here talking about love has no color. F_ck out of here, you better believe in jim crow came back into action your little becky would be screaming rape at the top of her lungs.
Civil rights activist fought for equality not stupidity. Black men are s blind that dey don't see wutz goin on. What's the difference betwen black women and white women besides we are strong willed and strong minded. Black men can't handle a strong woman that's why dey get the weak ones. I would gladly date a hispanic man or native american bt neva a white man because i respect myself more than that and my race. Let these black men do what dey want becuz sooner or later dey will learn. Black men know dey can do wuteva dey want or say wuteva dey want to dez white girls and dey won’t say nothing . Dey run ova white girls and dey kno dey can’t do dat to a black women so dey jus say forget us but screw black men, I’m feeling me a nice Hispanic man (domincan) anyway. It’s not about racism either it’s about common sense. Jill keep speaking your mind girl!
@sexytranny So you telling me that there are no strong black women. because a strong black woman is a woman that weather through any storm and still keeps a good character. Blaming ain't gonna get you nowhere. You better SUCK IT UP and keep it moving. No man wants a woman who is bitter about her ex. I had bad exes but thats on me because I CHOOSE THEM. I made a bad choice, I move on. Thats the problem holding on to that anger. Them elder old skool women don't do that. They KEEP GOD in their heart and MOVE ON. And don't think negative all the time.
At the same time African American women must be doing something wrong for their sons to be growing up idolizing white women.
Raise your sons to be candid, progressive black men that cherish black women.
Most African american women raise their daughters to be strong, however they raise their sons to be failures that idolize the white mans 500 pound rejects. Disgusting, anyway I'm going to stay away from this thread. it is about to be WW3 up in here. laterz
stfubytches
Yeah, 2 the "untrained" eye (lol) I do get mistaken for a white girl. It still doesn't change who I really am & how I feel about it, but I realized later on the real reason I felt the way I felt was because it was personal. I was bitter & hurt and immature &s that's why I felt that way.
However I will say when I was younger I wasn't the only Latina who harbored a bit of resentment if one of "our" guys dated a white chick, and the irony is we never felt that way if they dated a black chick cuz we generally all from the same types of hoods, but just the white chicks. That was the
@sexytranny LMFAO u really don't knw anything. You still got some things to learn. SMDH. LMFAO. Black men don't have no reason to be bitter to a black women. R U SERIOUS? Thats a 5 year old statement. You need help serious. You are so bias. You think one side instead of understanding both. You don't have alot of women lifting black men. THIS AIN"T THE 70s 80s. You got some but not all. You got some women who don't wanna be with a man who is a TEACHER. Some of them are DOCTORS. You got some who don't wanna be with a fellow freshmen in college because he don't have a CAR YET
I use to feel like Jill, especially since my family history includes Emmett Till, who was my father's cousin. For those who don't know who he is, google him. His name has been mentioned by so many Civil Rights activists and in certain songs. But I have gotten over the black man/white woman thing. If they haven't learned from OJ and Kobe, they will never learn. My thing is let the white women or Latinas see for themselves how black men are. Then, they will understand what we go through. But I got to say this: They don't make them like my father anymore & that's real talk!
@stfubytches
Black people speak negatively about black relationships 24/7.
So why can't I as a biracial persion speak negatively about interracial relationships?
Do you see the blatantly obvious double standard or are you such a imbecile that you can't comprehend it?
And African american women try to destroy black men every chance they get, they are no better then white cave bytches.That is why I go the route of foreign black women. Anyway later, I won't be responding anymore. Doing some important things today have fun.
I think ppl in general are way over thinking things because men period, not just Black men, usually hook up with chicks as their social network/circles dictate. Meaning that we will f uck anything that’s around us that’s easy and convenient. But to the point, the operative word is success. Cuz you’ll notice that nobody, and I mean nobody ever gives a damn when it is broke down, cant keep a job, raggedy ass Tyrone, and his trashy, morbidly over weight “Becky” roaming the aisles at Walmart. They hardly get a second look. But as soon as a BM is successful all of a sudden everyone treats him like he has an outstanding debt/obligation to the entire black race to get with a BW. Its foolish and juvenile, live ur own life
@HeavenNo, the comprehension statement was not aimed at you. Dating someone for the wrong reasons is equally bad no matter the color. A ho is a ho. I agree. Just to take a look a Kim Kardashian and Reggie Bush for example, as a black woman it is so frustrating and annoying to hear or read that we hate on their relationship because he's not with a black woman or we’re jealous. No, we dislike their "relationship" because she is a media whore, that got where she is (which isn't far lol) from making a sex tape, and she doesn't do anything but move from black man to black man leaching off of them to get ahead. Best believe if he was dating Karin Steffens(SuperHead), another shameless ho, who is BLACK we would still be up in arms. Color has nothing to do with it --a ho is a ho like we established..
I see Jill's point. U guys act like it's not a problem when we have racism within out own race! Sum of these niccas worship these light skinned broads. Red bone this & that. & then u got the coons u act like being with a woman is like finding a 5 carat diamond. @Heaven ur speaking real ish 2day instead of being an azz
@sexytranny YOU Don't see alot of black men running to white women because they got one or two hurtful black women either. But you do see some. I seen black women do the same. THEY ARE DOING IT RIGHT NOW. BEEN DOING IT. I know alot of them who are doing it. WAKE UP. You stuck in the 80s. 2010 WAKE UP. LMFAo. my goodness u are such a 4 yearold. LMFAO. I'm done with you lMFAo. I wanna talk to a mature person.
This is confusing when did black men become such "hot commodities" I live down south and the only white women you typically see with black men are very overweight and/or highly uneducated and typically these men do not marry these white women anyways. When I was in college we avoided the black guys because they only wanted white women for "extracurricular activities". IRR relationships are not something to be envious of...at least from most of the examples I have seen.
@sexytranny Blk men are running away from Cornball, immature, ghetto acting, feminist women like you. Good blk men don't run from real women. I speak for all black men, I hope you marry a white man. Thats less fussy, immature, feminist cornball woman us black men got to deal with. White men take all the those type. We black men will keep the good black women with common sense.
Jill scott! You read my mind. you don't want to seem racist or seperatist but the fact still remains! There are very few white, asians or any one for that matter who go out with black women because of the brain washing this country does when comes down to idolizing white woman!! Its sad! Black woman, all woman love black men, no matter what media does to them, why can't blk woman be the same way!
Ok! Bull S H I T! I love Jill Scott I admire her work and craft but ARE YOU SERIOUS! Woman Please!
Did your so call fiance leave you for a white woman is that why you sound so pissed off?
No career minded intelligent woman cares who black men date or what they do any more...
Jill will have a better shot at love dating outside her race any way...OH! I'm sorry she so PRO-BLACK...Use to being dogged and treated like trash...Stupid! She running with the ROOTS...They would die if they found out she was dating a white man....Jill you are telling US that you rather deal with drama for LIFE
@ mazrules
The fact is how many black men you have to date before you find that true one...Sad but that is why so many women date so many men because they still search for MR. IT in black when he may not even be black at all........
It amaze me how Black Women are quick to speak about what they will not do or put up with...Brothers remain quite and continue to do them for life......Hill Harper was a good example he ran around speaking pro-black what he do...Go out and mess around with a non-black female with pride...So Fake!
Dating is a matter of personal preference. Black men and women should date the person that makes them happy regardless of race. Even though black women were raped by white slaveowners, I don’t think Halle Berry, Shar Jackson, Paula Patton, Lisa Bonet, Garcelle Beauvais, Tamyra Gray, Sanaa Lathan (?), Heather Headley, Kenya Moore, Alfre Woodard, Diana Ross, Tina Turner, Diahann Carroll, Iman, Grace Hightower (Robert Deniro’s wife), Lilly Becker (Boris Becker’s wife) and so on are somehow betraying their race because they choose to date white men.
@ heavenhollywood
Nice to hear about your interview with Jill however she need to look at her life...What is she doing wrong in her selection in Black Men...Black Men are hard and a piece of work...It amaze me how black men say they want a woman skinny, Phat azz, real hair, real nails....The entire time the majority has proven THEY ARE FAKE LIKE THAT.....
you ever heard the expression..this is chess not checkers..some of you slow minded mafukers is not even on the checkers level..you still trying to master jacks and hopscotch. the sista said it's an intrinsic feeling she gets..she doesn't even understand or fully agree with her feeling..yet you defenders/tools of white supremacy are all up in arms cuz she innately and instinctively feels a sense of rejection by her natural mate. any bm or bw that is in tune with their inner soul/spirit has..does..or will feel this way when you see the offspring of the beast paired with a hue-man being...
@Heaven.Yeah, I'm not exacly sure how Gabrielle Union and Alicia Keys have been dodging the bullets about seeing married men. Gabby maybe because she's not as famous, but I know many black women think she's a loose hoe. I've read about her personal life and she was molested at a young age, most victims of molestation tend to be loose, NOT that is an excuse for her actions. Alicia Keys..I can't take any of her songs seriously anymore and I was a HUGE fan. Still like her music but it's not the same...I'm not sure why Oprah didn't grill her when she was on the show. I find Oprah to be hypocrit but that's another story.
(cont)clarkthink in his humorous manner has the correct solution to the problems of black men and women..seperate and detach ourselves from this culture and power system that is designed to maintain oppressive control over non-whites with the tacit compliance by whites..all of whom participate in white supremacy. they have waged a war on 4 different fronts against us for the last 2500 yrs..and it hurts my heart that so many black people are willing to forgive the monstrous, diabolical, demonic creatures that continue to devise various ways to destroy the original man..how can anyone believe...
I LOVE THIS TOPIC, AND SO DOES MTO. WHY ?
BECAUSE THEN ALL THE RACIST IR HATING BLACK BYTCHES COME OUT THE WOOD WORKS AND SHOW HOW RACIST BLACK FOLKS REALLY ARE !
NOT ALL OF US BUT WAY TOO DAMN MUCH OF US.
When will u sistas start taking responsibility for why black men are running away from yall in droves and into the arms of white/hispanic/asian women ?
@ tuff-tony
No lie she has a point but just think about it...The women you just mention are made up WHORES...They made there money off of Hollywood dirt and scandal...These are not everyday women you see struggling making ends meet or whatever...They are industry whores that took the game to another level...ICE T pimps CO_CO That is why she look like trash she is making that money for him...Kim like black men so what she do brought her some boobs and a booty are you serious! So like I said they market sex nothing more........
(cont) a group of people that rob you of your language, identity and spirituality. and display such bitterness and hatred..or lack of empathy toward your own people that suffer greatly in this system. i even seen an ignorant comment that said if you don't like it go back to africa..the brother doesn't know that most of us that were enslaved were not from africa..blacks were right here in the good ole US of A before any other race of people..but the white washed mind that is dependent on his master to feed him only what he wants him to know..will have a hard time believing that..seperation is key..we will never get proper nourishment for the mind, body or soul in this power system. it's 2010..hahahaha..stupid mf'ers.
@ All_Barbies_R_Smuts
If this was the 50's or 60's black men would been hanging by a damn tree running behind black men...Due to the fact the majority of men on tv you see have status why happen they get a white woman and make her his wife...Black women are piss because its looked at like damn I bust my azz and still come out with nothing sooooooo...Its kinda like a slap in the face from the black man saying..."YOU NOT GOOD ENOUGH"...Unless the broke...
Ok THIS GET ON MY NERVES!! for a "BLACK WOMAN" to talk about a "BLACK MAN" and who he chooses to be with!!!! and especially to talk about what happened before her time or anyones time nowadays!i know what happened in the past was horrible! but that s#it is not going on now and he(the black man)has the right to choose any kind of woman he wants to be with!PERIOD the past is like your ass behind you GET OVER IT! like a white woman isnt good enough for a black man!MAN FALL OUT!LOL cause he dont want u? thats your problem man! thats whats wrong with the world today, STUPIDITY!!
Great f@#king question. More sistas need to ask themselves this.....but they wont. And brothas will date outside of their race way more until none of us are dating black women and every black kid born will be mixed with some shyte and it aint gonna be no more pure black race period !
Just my prediction. I also see the beauty of black men and women being together, but I dont think it's gonna happen and thats a damn shame. The way other races treat us, sistas cant compete cuz they are not willing to treat us how other races treat us.
I have never had a problem with IR bcus it's their life & my dad is biracial, but when I 1st saw my celeb crush Ray Allen's wife I felt this sting Jill is talking bout. He could of had just about any woman he wanted & he chose her. So my opposite must be his ideal women, that kinda ruined my fantasy relationship I had with him ha ha in my mind. & he might have chosen the girl off her character but I seriously doubt it. I made the assumption cus I've ran across 2 many BM that get ahead & refuse 2 date BW.
@ kattdaddy2
wow thank you....I understand your point....Let me break it down a bit for you...If a sister out clubing like crazy....not a good pic...She can't keep a clean house...Not good pic...She can't cook..not a good pic...She has no class or style...not a good pic...Now! That's More Of A Hoodrat type chick...
What about the woman who cook, clean, pay bills, have a career, keep her house clean cater to her man at any given moment, make his doctors appointments, bring positive energy home and around his family...Never ask for anything other than to be treated with respect...
For the people saying that they dont like to see "their" black men with white women. When did it become YOUR black men? When did it become OUR (yes im white and married to a black man) fault that a black man was attracted to us??? We cant steal a person. Maybe you should ask a black man WHY he would rather a white woman. Maybe you should rethink your ignorant comment.
Certainly, at least you seem to admit that it's happening ?
It's many reasons, but here is 1. Sistas have a prevalent, common, and persistent stereotype about them of being difficult, loud, ignorant, materialistic, and out-right bitter bytches. Sistas as a whole need to take steps to dispel this notion.
But they never do. They run around with mad attitudes and call it strength, and say im with a white woman cuz she's nice and passive and i can control her. What bullshyte....
I can go on. When you ask a brotha why he dates outside his race. This is 1 of the common reasons mentioned.
@ misshugrad
I give you answer the majority hate who they are...Some where in their life they saw how being white means being treated right...So the disown themselves and love another...
In reality they have so self love for no race other than what they see a beauty....This type of mentality they will fall hard!
*PAUSE*
I'm sorry but I'm REALLY not interested in hearing a white woman's perspective on this entire topic. Def barking up the wrong tree. You could never ever evvveerrrr understand where we are coming from. And I wouldn't expect you do.
Props for you and your black husband, congrats.
But don't come in here calling BLACK women ignorant for our feelings on this topic. You're out of your league.
This is all IF you're really white.
I agree with Jill on some points. I would never date ouside my race I LOVE my black men 2 much, but I don't care what others do. Black men are brainwashed and a lot of ppl on here think the Civil Rights Movement was all about being able to date outside your race sorry but it was'nt. It was all about BLACK POWER!!
@Heaven, You’re pretty popular today, or is this everyday :) @Katt I see this happening too especially with the glorifying of light skin and “good” hair. But how exactly does the other race act or treat you? Oh be submissive, sit back, don’t say anything, stay at home just to cook and clean, and constantly stroke your ego? NEWS FLASH, not even white women are like that anymore—it’s 2010. That’s why many white men are infatuated with Asian women because they still act is if they live in 1200BC lol. If a woman serving and worshipping you makes you feel like a man, then you weren’t a man from the jump. Just saying…
misshugrad
Good question and i will try my best to answer it truthfully.
Its just different. Less attitude, no chip on their shoulder. Sistas always wanna show strength against their man like we are their adversary or some shyte ? Like they so worried about the balance of power. They act like we owe them something.
Keep in my im generalizing. This dont apply to all sistas, but still way too many have this attitude.
@ heavenhollywood
I'm speaking from experience and what I hear other black women speak about daily.....The majority of females I spoken with would say damn I gave him my all and he still dog me out....Ok!
I say do you love you and recognize trash coming when you see it...Period!
I hear black men dog out black women names such as B I T C H E S, Whores, Welfare, Baby Makers...Just pure degrading....I heard this white guy say to me damn why yall even date black men because of how nasty and disrespectful they are....
Yes I do agree you should not depend on anybody other than yourself
IM SORRY DAT JILL WANTS 2 BE STUCK INDA PREVIOUS CENTURY ME PERSONALLY I DONT WANNA GO BACK 2 AN ERA OF SEGREGATION AND JIM CROW IM 010 NOT 1910 JILL NEED 2 GET WIT DIS ERA YES RACISM AND PREJUDICE STILL EXISTS BUT ATLEASE ITS BETTA THAN WHAT IS WAS ID RATHER LIVE IN DIS ERA THAN DAT ERA AND BLACKS RACISM AINT OK WHEN YALL DOIT SO STOP ACTIN LIKE IT IS 2 WRONGS DONT MAKE IT RIGHT BUT IT MAKE IT EVEN HAHA.
@kattdaddy2:
You seem like a thinking individual.
You really can't be THAT judgmental about black women. Because that would include all the black women in your family, that you yourself came from.
There are so many of us who outrun that stereotype.
No, we are not gonna be your lapdogs, if that's what you want.
But I'm really not hearing much from you in terms of reasons.
Also, for EVERYONE raving on about blacks being slaves and you had it hard...blah blah blah. First off, you were not slaves. Your ancestors were. LONG LONG ago. Also, before you start saying whites were treated better, you should brush up on your history. Europeans (which are WHITE) were slaves to the Muslims from 1530-1780. There were about 1-1.25 million who were captured and forced to work in north Africa. So we should be pissed too right. Well we are not because it was LOOOOONG ago. Times have changed and so should you. If you keep thinking like this our humanity will never evolve.
ive dated black an white women so id rather just have a black women an i found one who likes me for me an MTO YOU B!TCH A$$ MOTHERF/_/CKERS BETTER APPROVE MY PICTURE I SEE BIG OLD ASSES ON HERE Y CANT I HAVE A PIC OF ME AN THE BIG ASS IN MY PIC I THINK YOUR HATIN SO APPROVE IT....What YOU SENDING ME IN A MESSAGE BASICALLY IS I CANT BE WHITE AN HAVE A BIG BLACK ASS BY MY FACE???????????????? DAS FOOKED UP
Ezra is on point. I dated a white woman 1 time and will never do it again. That love was False and Deep in my heart I knew it. I have a sister now and I feel whole.When I dated my white ex I could feel the exile feeling. I felt alone even though She was so supportive. I just didnt feel Gods presence.
Regardless if we agree or disagree, she opened up and spoke her inner thoughts which many of us struggle with. If this is how she feel, then who's to say 'get over it'? We all have things in our own world botherin' us and it is healthy to express those emotions weather good or bad. Even though I'm kinda burnt out on this subject, I respect and admire the way she elegantly expressed herself instead of comin' off as bitter, angry, and disrespectful toward the opposite sex. If more of us were as expressive as Jill, we would have a better understandin' of each other.
@juslisenk AND THANK YOU You took THE WORDS RIGHT OUT OF MY MOUTH MAN......its 2010 not 1800's no more....time to move along an let it go every race been slaved like jews dont complain a lot about being killed 6million of them they just never 4got..but we all been slaves... Look towards the future not reminisce on the past
clarkthink says, And maybe you should read the memo,.....honky hoe!!
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WOW!! You resort to name calling. How mature of you. I will leave that alone and let you wallow in your self pity.
I'm on team Jill Scott, what she had the guts to say most bw are thinking when a see a sharp dress nice look brotha w/a becky on his arm. I have to agree with alot of these sista comments blk men always making up excuses for only dating white women. When I ask a brotha why he only date white women he always want to put the sista down making negative comments, like a sista talk to much or always got her hand out. One thing you fail to c brotha's blk women have & always will have your back. What I'm saying has nothing to do w/ being a racist just stating the facts brotha's.
In a way, I'm starting to see how the media is doing a part by shaping the minds of many African Americans. More and more of us are starting to view each other in a negative light because we constantly embrace what the media projects. And the thing is, all races has relationship issues but the media chooses to focus on BW & BM a lot more. Some of us need to turn off the TV and start creatin' our own reality and stop livin' in the reality of television. There are plenty of successful BW & BM who are together but the media rarely focus on this because it doesn't want too.
@missugrad
Wether or not you want my opinion you read it. And im sorry, what will i not understand about what you go through??????? Did any of my family enslave you and treat you wrong??? We are all GODS children so we all come from the same mother and father. (wether some people want to believe it or not) Yes im really white. Why would i say i was if i wasnt. Dont disregard someones opinion because you dont like the color of their skin. Grow up. Im sure half the people on here are white, they just dont say so. So you could be agreeing with a white person.
LOve has NO COLOR! WHat I do not agree with is.... when Black Males deal with black women their whole lives; they date them, have kids from them etc. As soon as they make it big and start to make money, they start to date white women. It makes you think??!?! Are they dating white women because they really like them, or are they dating white women because a lot of other wealthy black males are doing so?
I FEEL LIKE THIS:
IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM AM I RACIST BUT I "DO" FEEL LIKE RACES SHOULD NOT PROCREATE ( NOTHING AGAINST BI-RACIAL KIDS AT ALL I HAVE A FRIEND THAT HAS MIXED KIDS I JUST PERSONALLY DON'T BELIEVE IN IT) SIMPLY BECAUSE IF GOD WANTED US TO BE ONE COLOR HE WOULD HAVE MADE US THAT WAY IN THE BEGINING. WE ARE DIVERSE FOR A REASON.
Jill has a right to her own opinion. I don't care about the swirls. I like all guys, black, white, spanish, anyone who will make me happy bcuz that's all that matters. This reminds me of the light vs. dark skinned thing 4 some reason w/ ppl getting all bent outta shape when ppl say their preference. You like who you like. Sometimes it hurts bcuz some ppl can be ignorant about it but hey, that's life.
@samanya: I've read his comments numerous times before this particular topic so I have my reasons as to why I enjoy reading his comments.. Besides,why are you so concerned with what I do? Plus,where are you getting these ideas that I'm desperate? This is the internet so relax.I' not here to make friends,land a date or what not. No need for the attitude.
@ misshugrad
(You really can't be THAT judgmental about black women. Because that would include all the black women in your family, that you yourself came from.)
I said some sistas, not all, but still way too damn many this applies too.
(There are so many of us who outrun that stereotype.)
Well not enough of u cuz the stereotype persists.
@kattdaddy2:
While I DEF do not agree with your admitted generalizations about us, I have had frank conversations with my boyfriend about what it is many black men may see in other women.
Many may take this as sexist, but he did mention sometimes black women need to fall back a little. So there is an element of understanding how the mind of a man operates.
I'm not into cowtowing, but I do understand the black male ego is a fascinating thing.
However, I think discussion, honesty, & openness is better than writing black women off.
Lets learn about and support eachother.
Cont
(No, we are not gonna be your lapdogs, if that's what you want.)
Again, u are proving my point about this adversarial attitude. Were not your enemy to be defeated or overcome.
(But I'm really not hearing much from you in terms of reasons.)
I gave you a clear one. (Sistas have a prevalent, common, and persistent stereotype about them of being difficult, loud, ignorant, materialistic, and out-right bitter bytches.)
@heaven. MTO loves to race baiting, I'm surprised by the hate I read in here. Kind of scary makes me wonder what type of people I'm rubbing shoulders with at the grocery store, mall, and at the gym. But a the end of the day like my parents always told me. date and marry whoever loves and respect you and treats you the way you deserved to be treated.
@juslisenk:
Sorry hun but we are DEF on two different pages.
You see, number one I'm not into following the religion that YOUR ancestors have proclaimed as the "gospel" and shoved down MY people's throats. So you can save all that "we are all god's children" jargon for a different black woman.
Again - you really have no place calling black women who share Jill's sentiments ignorant.
Although you have married a black man, you STILL have not attempted to understand OUR people. You think you have a black card now or something? lmao. You my dear are out of your league.
@ Tastysis
I never said i was comparing anything. I am just stating the fact that whites were slaves as well, we just dont dwell on the fact. Just because there were MORE black slaves makes it worse for them??? You also can not compare. We remember and we move on. As should you. Its not typical western thinking, its fact. People will always disagree with this subject and someone will always have something to say, so im done.
@juslilenk U feeling real bold behind the computer screen. That's like telling the Jews 2 4get about the holocoust cus it was ur ancestors & it doesn't matter anymore. Ur probaly just another out of shape white thrash ho u gets passed up by white men so u have 2 settle 4 brothas. Why r u over hear anyways? I'm never on white blogs cus I don't give a fuc about what y'all doing. Bitch gots black girl envy ha, ha!
I understand her perspective. I can understand how it can feel like betrayal, but understand this, MOST Black men WANT to be with a Black woman, some of them have hang ups and so do a lot of black women and that's the bottom line. Secondly IR dating does not and will not eradicate racism and those who think so will surely be awoken by an abrasive experience. Third, BW and BM need to elevate EACH other, I look at some of these comments on here from these brothas and many are pretexts and tenuous justifications. We need to be educated and we need to go back to the way we used to love each other
@social studies: You must be one of these bloggers with multiple sns ..I mean,what have I've done to you for you to continue stalking me or picking on me on certain threads? This is just the internet & most likely will never meet so just cut it out already. Are you a teenager or something? I don't get your little e-attacks or wanting to e-beef with another cyber being. It's not that serious @ all.
this white brawd said..."Im sure half the people on here are white, they just dont say so. So you could be agreeing with a white person."
got damn..white people can't survive without us..they will follow us to the ends of the earth and the ends of the world-wide web..i bet if black folks went to venus 2morrow..whiteys will be there on monday..talkin bout..what ya'll doing up here..can't have nothing 4 ourselves..got damn!
@ misshugrad
I find it facinating that when brothas repeatedly tell sistas why we date outside our race, sistas are resistant to the answers and refuse to accept them. They refuse to accept that they are indeed the root cause for why IRR is so prevalent among brothas. Again, you see falling back as weakness and its not. This is sistas confusing attitude with strength.
@kattdaddy2:
Maybe we're misinterpreting each other between these posts...but I'm really not trying to be adversarial, and I get your generalizations.
Anyway, as you said, I really don't think you have a problem with us on a whole. At least not as much as I though u did from your first comment...I take it as you just voicing some honest feelings.
& biatch Im sure u have heard of the phrase. Don't judge me until u have walked n my moccasins. My mother grew up around the time their were separate water fountains. This was not all that long ago . Look at the ish that's happening in Washington since the healthcare bill has passed. Quit acting like racism is dead.
Oh no Jill, why??? Look whatcha started..LOL. But she's very brave to come out and say all this and I can tell that she's just speaking her true feelings which is also what most BW feel, but some are understandably scared to speak on this issue because they don't wanna ruffle any feathers, mostly those that are in IR's. Everyone has their own opinion about this issue, but it becomes frustrating when the hateful arguements start back and forth between BM & BW. It gets hard to read what you guys say sometimes because it's just so awful that all I can do is SMH...
@kattdaddy2: but you have to admit that some IRR are caused by black men's issues (status for example) It can't just be black women's faults.
We won't get anywhere if we keep blaming each other. It helps to understand what ticks both sides off. And there is plenty that black men do to tick off black women.
@miss I NEVER said black women were ignorant so you can stop that right there. I said a COMMENT was ignorant. And what is a "black card". I dont have to explain to you why i married a black man.
I believe that everyone is allowed their opinion. Im not writing anyone off. How am i out of my league?? What does that even mean. Because i dont share your skin color i could never understand?? Why dont you explain it to me then. Im sure you could sum it all up. But dont, im done with this subject because we could go on and on and on. Have a good day!
Okay wtf.it is 2010. Slavery ended so damn long ago tht the only time it is talkd about is history class or pple who cnt except reality. Anyways back thn while all that mess was hapnin not all white woman stayed with white men. Lol n thts a fact lk @ d actors, singers or jst rgular ppl tht r well ovr 60 yrs old or deceased n wld b 100 or oldr by nw tht wre or r mixd blck & whte. But as 4 slavery wtf pple stp tlkin abt d fck'n stne age type ish, thts hw bullshyt strts. D only way 4 racism 2 evr stp is 2 STOP tlkin abt it. I feel bad 4 any child born into a racist family.
@ misshugrad
Not adversarial with me, adversarial in your relationships with black men. Your insistence that your not gonna be anybodys lapdog, and how u not gonna fallback. Other races dont feel that they have to worry about a brotha taking advantage of them in someway. Its like u had to tell me that to protect yourself. AKA defensive posturing. I hope i was clear
@ ChasityLove I was not making a joke, I simply repeated what one of the brothers posted. Now I think the attitudes comes from single parent homes where the black father is absent in body, but the mother continues to talk about him negatively. That behavior has been passed to the mothers of today who have the I don't need a man attitude. But we all know it takes two to have a productive well balanced household.
@ misshugrad
Oh believe me, i love sistas. I love women period. I dont use race or color to determine who i like, as some folks on here do. See, the thing with stereotypes, they dont apply to every entire member of a group, but still way too many, enough to re-enforce the stereotype. And yes, so e black men IR date because they are weak and dont wanna deal with a sista because they are perceived as difficult, and there is some truth to that for some people.
@kattdaddy2:
But you can understand why it's in our blood and upbringing to carry ourselves differently than women of other races. We are a different people and face different .
But this is sounding like black women are less lady-like or something, and there are loud and aggressive white women.
We might be less submissive, but there are positive "attributes" that black women have that other races do not.
Just look at Tiger. It seems like he was bored with his wife, who may at one time have been at the speed that you prefer and want us to operate at.
Bottom line, in my personal experience, other races are indeed easier to deal with. Ive dated nice passive sistas, and difficult white girls, but the totality of my personal experience with women in general is the same. I came across more sistas with attitude than other races, and this is alot of other peoples experience too. Again, this collage of separate peoples experiences is what creates the perceived stereotypes.
@mishugrad No one wants to see a black woman free. Men should be sensitive to a black woman's need to be in control, hell black women were beaten into submission and muted since slavery. A black woman shouldn't have to be submissive to have any man or wealth, that's how white girls are raised. Submission only should be given to a deserving man. But be honest, what man is worthy of a submissive wife? U see how submisive women are treated. Keep ur head up, don't put head down for anyone anymore or u want be nothing but propety to a man and something to be told what to do and how to do it.
GTFOH All you chicks in here talking about ain't enough good black men, or good men at all. Get over yourselves...some of ya'll find happiness shopping, some of ya'll find happiness in getting your hair done, or nails or whatever..so who the heck are you to bash anyone else for finding happiness as they see fit.
Jill Scott's career owes alot to them same white women she's now trying to diss...let's see how well her next album does. ya'll jumped down john mayer's throat when he voiced his opinion...ya'll should be smart and non hypocritical and do the same in this case.
Seriously!!
Well, I am glad to hear that after all that, you at least still have love and affection for black women. In the end, that's really all that matters to me and a lot of black women. I think we expect from you all (black men) the most, because the truth is we won't get it much from any other races of men. (Not that we need it from them, but what women doesn't want to feel appreciated?) So, we look to black men for that.
Gotta go, but it's been a great discussion w/u.
@Chastity we were slaves, a longggg time ago..the world has spun endlessly since. we have a black president..it's time to leave yesterday as yesterday and start worrying about the here and now..all that beaten or whatnot talk is dumb...you been beaten? Nope..I guess you remember your slave ancestry only when convenient as most of us black ppl do..we need to stop being self hating hypocrites and stop blaming other folks now living for what their ancestors did to ours. Many white ppl done more for us than we've done for ourselves. Racism works both ways..you can't complain about it if you do it.
Juslisenk
I'm tired of this love is love. How does one reach that point in the first place? They excluded their own race by placeing others on a pedastel! Stop acting like sheet is love at first sight, puhlease! And again European enslavement is NOTHING like the slavery the diasporic african endured and deal with due to the resudual effects!
@ misshugrad
(I won't lie - it is HARD not to get strength and attitude mixed up. But black men have lots of personality conflicts as well. For example, confusing validation and ego-stroking with being weak and submissive.)
Im not saying brothas dont have issues. We have many, but we talkin bout yall right now. We can switch to us if you'd like. But i want sistas to take resonsibility for their part in this just as we must. But the point is, this aint happenin on the other side. Brothas aint out here stressin bout how sistas is IR dating, cuz the numbers are low compared to brothas
emmettmays85 "4real2 most bm on da DL or gay? wtf? where do u bitches and hoes get this [EXPLETIVE] from? i swear u hoes come up with every excuse on why ya'll asses are single instead of just lookin in da [EXPLETIVE] mirror" --------------------------------------------------- .....AND this right here is ALL that needs to be said on this issue.
A bunch of fat bitter black chicks contemplating and complaining about men they will never get, because THEY cant look their DXMN selves in the mirror.
@ChasityLove:
I hear you. I think there is SUCH a fine balance that is constantly at risk of bending, for black women to appreciate why black men feel the need for their ego to be stroked, and for black men to understand why we need to appreciated to the fullest.
The ultimate struggle is for us to get closer to that middle ground. As tough as it is, both sexes have to work towards understanding what the other needs. This may be impossible, idk..all I can do is try.
tasty sis- I dont think they are comparable either but the fact is not every white person alive today should be held accountable and be called a slave master as clarkthink said for the actions of 40 or 50 percent of white people who actually owned slaves not every white person was a slave master or wanted to hang blacks and rape them there was a percentage that actually tried to end slavery
@ misshugrad
I understand. In this society sistas need to be stronger in a way cuz yall do have more to deal with, but everything is a trade off, and sometimes sistas cross the line or dont know where that line is. The negative side to this strength we speak of, is that it also creates these negative stereotypes that we are talking about, which results in us dating other women in droves cuz we dont wanna deal with your "strength" ? Is this trade off worth losing your men to others ???
I don't understand if most of the brothas on here are telling black women to toned down their attitudes, why can't they accept it. It's the truth instead of saying okay I'll try that they want to argue. We don't want a door mat or an overly aggressive women. Just a supportive feminine partner. Notice I did not say STRONG or WEAK.
mixedandproud)john the [EXPLETIVE] stain mayer said these words Mayer's response: "I don't think I open myself to it. My d*ck is sort of like a white supremacist. I've got a Benetton heart and a f*ckin' David Duke c*ck. I'm going to start dating separately from my d*ck." but he road on the coattails of (DAVE CHAPELL)JAY-Z ETC....so lets not go there with
brown goddess the fact remains this ISNT A BLACK WEBSITE if they are advertising nurse jackie and united states of tara and mucenex and running stories about kim k on a daily basis then it isnt a black website plus they took down the most visited black website and changed it to urban so anyway plus if you want to be proud of black ownership i would hope it wouldnt be mto your pretty smile more lol
@ misshugrad
(But this is sounding like black women are less lady-like or something, and there are loud and aggressive white women.)
Yes, but why is this common perception applied to sistas and not white women ? Ask yourself this question.
(Just look at Tiger. It seems like he was bored with his wife, who may at one time have been at the speed that you prefer and want us to operate at.)
Believe me, tigers woman woman aint a passive white girl LOL. So to assume she's slow cuz she's white is wrong. I've never had a passive girl in my life
@stfu I don't hold todays white 100% accountable for slavery. They can't help what their ancestors did. But certain behavior is gentic and hereditary. I don't think being leery of whites is an absolute insult. Their track record and history isn't exactly the best. Each race has dirt and blood on their hand some kind of way but collectively whites are drenched in it. Just stating facts.
I'm so tired of people still talking about slavery like they were slaves themselves. Get over that [EXPLETIVE]. Get a life. Grow up. You or no one you ever have known or will know, is or was a slave. Love comes in all colors, and bi-racial children are some of the most beautiful people alive. What about unsuccesful black men?? Is it ok for them to date white women? Why is it only successful black men that can't be with white women? Nigros keep this racism stuff alive because, "o your poor little soul is hurt when a black man is with a white women." That man don't want you, get off his nuts.
Live and let live. Why in the hell should you care who another person finds happiness with?
I can understand her "instinctual" reactions. But to dwell on it and try to dissect it and try to place blame is immature. We all have instinctual reactions when stimulated, that's only natural. But as we mature and grow we must try to make better sense of it and detach ourselves from emotion clouding our judgment, which leads me back to my initial point. WHY SHOULD U CARE?
Well, Mr I mean Ms Scott weither or not a black man gets with a white woman is none of your business. Why isn't your soul burning when Naomi Campbell is always with white men or when Jessica White is with a white man, or Keri Washington or Leona Lewis none of these black women date black men? so why trip. Worry about your biz not anyone elses. Please baby there's many black couples, I myself am proof. Black couples ain't going anywhere.
@ truthful
What do you mean ? I love black women, period ! This is all u need to know. Dont be mad cuz I speak my mind !!!
@ misshugrad
I take responsibility for choosing the easy way out and IR dating, instead of engaging in dialogue with you, a truly open-minded and wonderful sista that you are. You are the person I'm talkin about that will dispel the stereotype tha exists, (Unlike Chastity who sounds bitter)
ChrisHero Flag post BLACK WOMEN HAVE BIG EGO, JUST CAUSE A BLACK MAN IS MARRY TO WHITE WOMEN YOU THINK HE DATING THAT WHITE WOMEN CAUSE HE HAS A PROBLEM WITH BLACK WOMEN???
HOW IS DATING A WHITE WOMEN = YOU HATE BLACK WOMEN?? ---------------------------------------------------------
because thats what bitter fat lonely insecure black bxtches do.
70% of them-- in fact-- according to Tyra/Oprah, (their t.v. mentors).
@ sexytranny
I dont care if a sista dates a white man. It doesnt bother me in the least. Only insecure @ss nyggas are concerned about that shyte.
I only say what I say because my goal is to see brothas and sistas love each other more, and not be separated by such trivial bullshyte. We are losing each other and that is a shame. And if sistas keep having a resistant attitude it will get worse.
Manifest
It isn't the bw, but the wm with his foot on ur neck! Everyday that u post ur generalistic view of AA women ur make urself look more ignorant and more hurt! Pick up the pieces of ur broken man hood and move along! I also find it highly predictable that u would feel this way about AA women since u don't have one positive 1 in ur life with ur mom. Being a white pr and all!
@ JBJR
I agree. When this topic comes up, it seems to bring out the racist black women in my opinion.
@ truthful
I said i have dated passive black women and attitude having white girls, meaning, yall sistas need to stop thinking that we date white women cuz they weak and passive. That is your number one reason why you think we date them and its not true. You guys only say that so you wont feel bad. What if a brotha is dating a strong white girl ???
Yall would never say that.
Jill Scott,
Instead of writing this essay about IR marriages, you need to write an essay about BW opening their options and finding good men PERIOD! BW and BM do not belong to each other....we share some of the same experiences, but its time for BW to look out for themselves.
Another thing: the divorce rate of women (regardless of race) and BM are high. BW are more successful in IR marriages than BM and I am seeing more/more biracial kids without their black fathers...black women, look after yourselves!!
hahahaha...it's some funny mafuggers on this site..that's why i keep coming back..tastysis what up woman?! imma go make me some turkey burgers with some celery sticks..your words 2 months ago got me eatin to live..you never know what you type can sometimes help a brother or sista out..be cool everybody..i'm gone.
clarkthink says, A lot of y'all Cr@ckers STILL got that ole Willie Lynch slavemaster mentality!!...."oh I'm sooo much better than them n!ggers that I can go on a predominantly Black website, talk my sh!t, and them n!ggers better listen!!...'cause I'm Cr@cker!!....I cracks that whip!!"
wow is that how you see it is that what the slavery of your ancestors did to you? hmmmmm blame yourself
@MissShay I really have to say that comment was very ignorant! You mean to tell me that in order for a black man to be successful he need a white woman? No!!! He doesn't need anyone but God by his side for one! Now I feel if that is what they want or if they found love in a white woman fine and good, because that is THEIR choice...And it pisses me off that when one person voice THEIR opinion like Jill Scott people like YOU shoot them down to having a VOICE!...Grow up! People need to be honest to themselves an stop trying jump on the band wagon cause it makes you look very ignorant!
@ truthful
because i had way more to say than i love sistas !
@sexytranny
I agree, brothas got shyte we need to fix too ! However, the problem is brothas dating outside their race in droves, not the other way around. Sistas aint IR dating like that so it aint a problem. My issue is not IR dating, its the clear imbalance that exists.
I thought it was an excellent read. I liked her mosquito bite reference. She said that to let it be known that it's not KILLING us to see a brother w/ the enemy, but there is & probably always will be that subtle stinging feeling (mosquito bite) that we get when seeing that. I'm not bitter. I'm a bw w/ a wonderful blk husband. Wouldn't trade him 4 the WORLD. I know where Jill is coming from though. I'll always be able to relate to my sisters on this issue.
kattdaddy2:
Me simply DEFENDING myself against the stereotype of the black woman being bitter, makes me APPEAR to have an attitude like the stereotype suggests BUT what am I suposed to do take this lying down? WHO WOULD I BE IF I DID NOT STAND UP FOR MYSELF ? OH LET ME GUESS A DATEABLE BLACK WOMAN BECAUSE SHE HAS NO VOICE!!!
myxy Flag post Another sad bitter fat black b!tch. Live your own life and let others live theirs.
Jill needs to be writing down a diet plan instead of this hate speech. ---------------------------------------------------
Bingo. Black women waste every ounce of energy worrying about EVERYONE ELSE's life except the dire situations of whats happening in their OWN homes. No wonder their children and our communities are in such a mess and disarray. Now we have TWO statistics on the way-- one of her and her child.
Aino Flag post I think it's simply a fear black women have, that black men with options are not choosing black women when he can choose "other", beacuse he finds them more beautiful. It's not about slavery or the past, it's about black womens insecurity about their appearance in comparison to long haired beauties of other ethnicities. My two cents anyway. --------------------------------------------------
Spot-on.
Aino for the win.
To: Jill Scott
I feel you, but you need to get over those clearly racist feelings you have and move on. Yes, it's sad that such a good catch didn't find his way into the arms of a black woman. Obviously something that woman did made him fall in love with her enough to want to marry and have kids with her. It happens way to much, but the only way for sistas to get their men back is to change the perceptions about them that exist. Sistas seem very reluctant to do so, so I really don't see a solution any time soon, just alot of bitter broads.
first & foremost, the term "hating" is used way too loosely. some people just have a different opinion. secondly, I'm all for TRUE love. if you'll notice I said TRUE love. I'm against sommeone being with another person solely because of what's on the exterior because that's superficial. I have to agree with Jill. I often question if a black man is with a caucasian or latina woman out of true love or status. often times when a black man reaches a certain level of success, he pursues a lighter-skinned woman.
heavenhollywood Flag post eXACTLY jILL AND OTHER HATEFUL WOMEN LOOK AT YOURSELF , NOT BLACK MEN NOT WHITE WOMEN LOOK AT URSELF AND FIND OUT WHAT UR DOING WRONG.BECAUSE LIKE CAT WILLIAMS SAID U START GETTING UP THEIR IN AGE LIKE JILL SCOTT AND U STILL HAVEN'T FOUND THE RIGHT MAN IT'S TIME TO START LOOKING AT URSELF AND STOP BLAMING IR OR WHITE PEOPLE. CUT UR GRASS JILL BEFORE U SHOW UP AT MY HOUSE WITH UR LAWNMOWER --------------------------------------------------
And Boom goes the dynamite!
Excellent post
@ ChasityLove I feel u, but in order 4 the relationship btween blk men & women 2 get better, we must take our place as women, not as being beneath him, but as his support system. During slavery, the blk man was stripped of his 'masculinity', that is his ability 2 protect his fam and himself, while blk women were taught 2 work just as her man did. This switched the gender roles, and made it so that the blk man was automatically fighting 2 assert his masculinity while the blk woman was already taught 2 b independent. This mindset is single-handedly destroying the blk family
heavenhollywood Flag post eXACTLY jILL AND OTHER HATEFUL WOMEN LOOK AT YOURSELF , NOT BLACK MEN NOT WHITE WOMEN LOOK AT URSELF AND FIND OUT WHAT UR DOING WRONG.BECAUSE LIKE CAT WILLIAMS SAID U START GETTING UP THEIR IN AGE LIKE JILL SCOTT AND U STILL HAVEN'T FOUND THE RIGHT MAN IT'S TIME TO START LOOKING AT URSELF AND STOP BLAMING IR OR WHITE PEOPLE. CUT UR GRASS JILL BEFORE U SHOW UP AT MY HOUSE WITH UR LAWNMOWER
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Another good one.
You brothas keep droppin' these logic bombs on these bitter black hoes.
@kimpeach i was thinking about u last night when i took a piss
like i stated earlier alot of successful black men avoid black women like its the plague and the decent sistas have nobody to thank for that except these hoodrat bitches
goddamn over 900 [EXPLETIVE] responses damn jill u struck a [EXPLETIVE] nerve, bought out alot of bitter ass bitches and hypocrites. i feel like im in a [EXPLETIVE] history class full bitter ass bitches and arrogant and conceited white bitches , u got muthafuckas talkin about slavery and [EXPLETIVE]
I read jills essay, and I read the comments. Hmmm this is touchy, but here's my two cents. I love to see black people in love, walking hand in hand. And I would hope to be blessed with a brotha that truly loves me. But if it's been written that it's not ment for me to be with one, and for me to be with a man of another color. Then oh well. You really can't worry about what others do.
I'm gonna call it the way I see it.
Why are *some* people here trying to blame the black woman in general for not being able to find a good man? There are a BUNCH of woman of all races who are still single, still searching for that "right" man. By some mentality, Jennifer Aniston should be an anomaly being a sucessful, attractive WHITE female, but she's not. Women in particular tend to commiserate w/ her because she represent a huge demographic of single women over a certain age in America. Lets not single out Black women for this and act like it's because of their "attitudes/mentalities" SM
@clarkthink ive got to say your the biggest Ignorant person ive came across...but i do not care what your black ass thinks....I mean as i can tell your a jealous B!itch cause black women don't want your N,IGGA ass i feel the jealousy its Lovely. Its funny because you as a black man not likin the fact bw date wm makes all the interracial couples stronger the haters are what make it even Better because its so funny you cant do a damn thing about what Race cares about another race...were all equal
@ Lottahead
GTFOH ! Cali has the best weather year round ! Yall got mosquitos ! LOL
@ truthful
All im saying is that this stereotype clearly exists. It don't exist for white, spanish, or asian women, so ask yourself why ! And it aint cuz they are passive punk bytches ??? How can sistas be perceived as strong without being perceived as bitter bytches is the question you need to be asking yourself. I didnt make up this stereotype ???
OscahDaGrouch
The only black hoe is you and Heaven. Before you lump me as a BBW, let me tell you I don't have a problem with BM/WW relationships. I think Jill is wrong on this one...what she (and other BW) need to do is explore their options and look out for themselves. Why should we worry about what BM think when they don't when they are just as imperfect as everyone else? You can talk sh!t about the BW, but BM are even leaving WW/AW/HW and their biracial children just like they are leaving BW and their children. Why? You can't blame BW.
Hhhhmmmm where shall I begin? The most I've dated outside my race which is African American is females who are half+half. I'm not the type of guy to down bw because bm have our flaws too. But if I find somebody I'm interested outside my race I'm going to date them! I never been taught to think inside the box! Foolishness/bafoonary! I wish somebody would oppose my views because I've dated bw of all complexions so you can, pretty much kick rocks!!!!!! Grow free from the chains of mental slavery!!!!! Life too short
Up2it Flag post GILL SHUT YOUR FAT YESTERDAY NEWS A.S.S UP. I GET SO TIRED OF HEARING ABOUT BLACK BITCHES CRYING OVER BLACK MEN BEING WITH OTHER RACES. NOT ALL, BUT THERE ARE A LOT OF MISERABLE BLACK BITCHES WHO HAVE NOTHING TO BRING TO THE TABLE BUT A BAD ATTITUDE, OPEN HANDS AND SEX. A MAN WANT MORE THAN A GOLD DIGGING BITCH THAT CAN SPIT OUT BABIES. -------------------------------------------------
there you go.
tell it.
kattdaddy2 Flag post Certainly, at least you seem to admit that it's happening ?
It's many reasons, but here is 1. Sistas have a prevalent, common, and persistent stereotype about them of being difficult, loud, ignorant, materialistic, and out-right bitter bytches. Sistas as a whole need to take steps to dispel this notion.
But they never do. They run around with mad attitudes and call it strength, When you ask a brotha why he dates outside his race. This is 1 of the common reasons. -------------
these black bxtches will never listen though
@ sexytranny
(if black men treat black women sweet an kind. Then he will get the kind of black women he is looking for. White men treat black women sweet an what white men dont have problem with black women attitude)
Listen, obviously it's more than that, because BM IR date more than any other group, period. My opinion is that it's the negative perception of bw that causes this, and the solution is bw need to somehow change this perception about themselves of having attitudes.
Again, somebody tell me why sistas are the only ones out here who have this negative stereotype ???
Ok, if names like: da_advocator, Tastysis, Clarkthink and tuff-tony on a post, its a damn interesting topic, lol, you guys funny.
@tuff-tony Flag post "got damn..white people can't survive without us.. ------------------------------------------- That was meant literally. Last I read, more than 95% of them are product of the HeLa Cells (Henrietta Lacks)inside them i.e the black slave back then whose cells were used in so many people and whitey sure bet was the major benefactor as always why they azzes survived - lol
@Tastysis ya my girl knows everything i say on this sight i can say anything i please to be honest..N>IGGA is just a word just like cRACKA an y'all throw it around like u ain't referring to a white person..so i can say any racial slur i please to say even if i don't mean it in a racist way because im not racist because there all just words to me like N.IGGER means Ignorant so when i say it that does not mean black people means ignorant k an ya an my gf gets on Mto an comments all the time she watch me write this
Will some of u guys listen to yourselves?? So many of u are disrespecting Jill for allowing her PERSONAL thoughts to have a voice. She DID NOT disrespect BLACK MEN or WHITE WOMEN by speaking what's on her mind. Why does a black man or a black woman have to find FAULT in Jill's opinions of what she feels when she sees a black man with a white woman. So many of u are dead to the world, and as a result, u are DEAD WEIGHT to the black race! No one said u can't have ur precious WHITE WOMEN or ur precious WHITE MEN. YOU CAN, but dont make some of us feel like we have to LOVE it if we DONT.
@ kim
I agree. Brothas got shyte we need to fix also. But my question, is why are bm dating IR in much greater numbers ??? Why ? Not one sista can tell me except to say that other races of women are passive punk bytches who put up with bm's bullshyte ? It has to be more that that. I have a theory, but sistas seem reluctant to accept it.
I created an account on this site just to respond to the ignorant comments made by some of the posters here. Jill Scott needs to realize that people have a right to be with whom they love and that this is none of her business. Secondly, her male friend does not have to justify his love life to anyone, least of all her. Thirdly, to the women who are saying that white women are stealing "our men", get it through your heads... Black men do not belong to you, nor do you belong to black men. We are endowed by our creator with free will to do whatever we wish, including date outside of our race!
I was hoping none of u people would fall for this race baiting thread but over 1010 comments? come on now..It is a nice day outside. Go take a walk or something. You might not agree with her opinion, but she is entitled to it. Bm can date whom ever they want. It is obvious that the media is pushing and Ir(bm/ww) agenda. People stop feeding into this. Majority of black men dont date out. In fact, white men date out more often than blk men do. I am a college student and i see more white men with asian women than blk men wit blk women. Don't let the media shape ur opinion...
All I can do is LMAO because half of you are too easy!!! You all are on here tripping out over this woman's OPIONION and WE ALL are entitled to our own hence all the responses. It wouldn't matter if MTO posted a story about a beautiful rainbow glowing brightly over the pacific ocean, many would still manage to get on here and attempt to destroy the image of the black woman and also the black man. The media has played a great game of chess when it comes to society thinking that black women are bitter. Granted there are some but far less than some may think.
kimpeach damn baby that hurts, since u dont think about me i guess i can throw my plans of [EXPLETIVE] u out the window. that sucks cause i heard yo head game to die for and i also heard u ride a dick like stallion. also u dont have to love me i aint down for a love affair i just wanna [EXPLETIVE], after i bust a nut on yo chin u can go back to husband
To the whites in this thread: No disrespect intended, but u have absolutely NO BUSINESS speaking on issues separating black men and black women...and just because u are dating "one of us" it certainly does NOT grant u a pass. As this thread has proven, none of u ever come in here to make any VALID or pivotal points, u just come to fuel the thread and make disparaging remarks on what YOU FEEL are reasons why us blacks can't seem to find a common ground. It shows ur arrogance and constant will to keep blacks at a constant war with one another by trying to referee sides. Y are u here??
Jill Scott, DROP-KICK this “friend”. The CONFUSED isn’t entitled to share the BLACK world.
I’m sitting here reading these trolling WW and so-called BM tryna define the feelings of a BW. None of y’all is a BLACK WOMAN and thus, don’t know the ends and outs of BEING ONE so get off it, take a hike, or fall back; whatever your miserable pleasure, lol.
What a fool ESPOUSES never ceases to bore me! [*stifles yawn*]
cont. Has anyone ever seen the reaction of a Latino marrying outside thier culture or an Indian, an Asian, a Jew, etc etc? I agree with much of what Jill has to say yet I am not against IR dating or marriages as long as love plays it true role in it. In many heart of hearts lots of BM do this out of superficial reasons but not all. There are brothers who are in loving fulfilling relationships with woman of other cultures where it is not a complex issue and these women are also welcomed into a black woman's family a lot more graciously than he in hers. So who would be the bitter party here?
@ sexytranny
(start working the stereotype of black men before trying fix the stereotype of black women.)
How do you that I already havent ??? Well, I have. I used to be one of these ignorant idiots you speak of, until I educated myself, and became a successful and productive member of society who pays taxes and owns property. An example of how we should be.
So now I ask YOU ! What are you doin ???
Jill isn't living in the past when she is stating historical truth....come on people elevate your mind. In today society there is nothig more sexy than a marriage that works and union and foundation need to be made more of an issue than what color someone marries. It sad that the generation coming up wont even value union and marriage when there are other distraction being made to plague thier minds like tearing one another down. I just wish the black culture had more apparent unity like other cultures then society wouldn't have the chance to say check mate every time a BM or BW made a move!
@ sexytranny
(kno matter how put it. Black men marry & date black women more then all the other race of women combine.)
Thats true, but we bm also date outside our race more than any group, and you can't tell me why ? Now, sistas have a major problem with it, or else we wouldn't have over 1000 posts on the subject, so obviously it's a problem to bw.
@MizzgrownAzz i can comment on this site if i want its a internet sight it don't say yOU mUST be black to comment this page lmao an U say that white ppl cant comment on this issue when This girl is complain about a white women being with a black man WEll i guess his A$$ didn't want a black female get over it... White is in this topic so there u go.
Give me a black goddess sister I can't resist her. No stringy haired, blonde hair, blue eyed, pale skinned buttermilk complexion. Grafted, recessive, depressive, ironing board backside straight up and straight down. No frills, no thrills, Miss six o'clock, subject to have the itch, mutanoid, caucazoid, white cave b*tch...
"And why the hell are people up here calling white women "Becky"? That's disrespectful and ignorant as hell. What if white people called black women "Kesha" or "Latasha"???"
@ She_She_Badd, WHO CARES?? The LAST thing u should be worried about "sista" in this white capitalist, racist driven world is what another black is referring to a white as...SMDH. WE BLACKS have BIGGER fish to fry and responding to comments such as why Becky's azz was called Becky shows ur lack of inability to offer any valid commentary to this thread. U should leave if ur so WORRIED about Becky's feelings *rolls eyes*
@ms_thang17 CLARKTHINK POSTS ARE VERY F@CKING OFFENSIVE.FUTHERMORE MY BYFD CAN SPEAK HIS MIND..HE ISNT A RACIST..HE IS ACTUALLY A SWEET PERSON HE JUST DOESNT LIKE THE FACT THAT ITS OK FOR IGNORANT BLACK RACIST BLK PPL CALLING WHITE PPL CR@CKERS LIKE ITS OKAY..CUZ IT ISNT.YOU WOULDNT WANNA BE CALLED A N!GGER NOW WOULD YOU???
Missgrownazz
Girl you aint lying! These bm and bw women ready to hang Jill! LOL! Damn and disrespecting her looks! It that serious! Even when Hill Harper was writing those books, while dating that white girl I didn’t crack on his looks! He is still a good looking sell-out! And I use the term sell out because you cant’ preach one thing and practice another! Its hypocritical!
@ tastysis
(No u didn't make up that stereo type, wp did and u bm like u perpetuate that mentality to other bm and with the non-black that u date! The same wp made up the stereo types of lazy black men! Smh!)
Im sorry, but this statement is bullshyte. Wm didnt make up this stereotype. BM did, and with good reason. Is there no truth to it ? Is it a total lie ??? BW perpetuate this stereotype with their behavior in public, being ignorant, loud, fussy, bitter, always havin a gawd'am attitude bout shyte ! And for the record, Im currently dating a BW ! (But she's half white, does she count LOL)
@clarkthink AND YOU...OMG FUTHERMORE YOU DONT EVEN DATE OUT YOUR RACE SO YOU CANT EVEN RELATE..AND WHITE PPL HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO SPEAK THEIR MIND ON THE SUBJECT WHEN THEY EXPIERENCE DATING A BLACK WOMAN OR VICE VERSA.IF THATS WHAT THEY LIKE TO DO,RESPECT IT BECAUSE ITS NOT GOING TO STOP BECAUSE YOU DONT LIKE IT...SO GET OVER YOURSELF..A STFU.NO 1 CARES..O YEAH OUR PRESIDENT IS HALF BLACK AND WHITE YOUR FREAKING MORONS.YOU IDIOTS ON HERE ARGUING ABOUT INTERRACIAL RELATIONSHIPS.DUMBAZZES.
sexytranny
Not all BM treat women bad and not all WM treat women good. However, some of these MTO coons are the reason why the black community suffers as a whole. They talk sh!t about BW, but they can't keep their marriages to WW/HW/AW together...BW are much more successful in IR marriages than BM. Why is that?
I am not blaming or talking about all BM, but they can't keep blaming BW when they are no better with WW/AW/HW. At some point, they need to ask some hard questions to themselves.
@Ablubabiecutie28-awww, how sweet! You and you boyfriend are posting together...now, isn't that specialist. To be frank sweetheart, I could give two sh*ts of what someone calls me...words are words! They can call me whatever the hell they want...as long as they don't f*cking touch me...I never said that your BF was a racist, but hey! whatever vibe you picked up from post...do as you will. I could care less.
@ kimpeach
(2.)BW are starting to catch up to BM, so it won't be an issue in the near future.)
C'mon kim ? The ratio is not even close, and aint gonna be close anytime soon. Sistas aint leavin brothas like that and yall aint gonna do so. Yall love our sorry @sses ! Now, answer my question, why such a disparity ??? No one sista in here can give me an intelligent answer as to WHY ???
@missgrownazz: Who are you to criticize She_She_Badd for making a cogent and valid point regarding the vitriol directed at calling white women "Becky," which is a derogatory as calling a black woman "Mammy". She_She_Badd has a right to her opinion. At the very least, before you decide to lecture someone else, please gain a command of the English language, because your writing skills are sorely lacking. Moreover, as a black woman your comments continuously offend me because you and others like you do nothing but perpetuate negative stereotypes about black people and black women in general.
Mzgrownazz I don't get why folks have picked out a tree and rope for Jill for stating what was is heartfelt for her.....now knowing what has been portrayed of Jill, if she would have came out and said I am going to "marry a white man"..these same people would be on here calling her a sellout then they would make this post about dissing the black man and how much of a loser he is. I wish the men and women of color could see how they are used as pawns when this worlds color wars reach far beyond just us black women and men.
And......all u mufukkas sayin its not the white peoples biz...it is my biz, I have mixed babies that have 2 grow up with your kids, I have 2 deal wit a funky attitude from a black chick a lot of times when me and my man or me and my mix kids go out 2 eat.so yes, I have a right on this thread because it affects my CHILDREN.
@clarkthink YEAH HE IS AND HE IS A GREAT GUY..I DATED BLK MEN IN THE PAST AND THEY TREATED ME BADLY AND TEASED ME WHEN I WAS IN SCHOOL.HE IS THE BEST THING THAT HAS HAPPENED TO ME IN THE PAST SEVERAL MTHS..SO YOU NEED TO STOP JUDGING PPL FRM THE SKIN COLOR AND STFU..YOU DONT KNOW HIM,I DO.1 THING HE ISNT IS A RACIST...LIKE YOU!!
Why can't a black man find real love outside his race? come on now ladies, cut it out!! ya'll acting like every successful black male does this. Ican name a number of black males that are married and in love with a black female. Just because he is with the white woman doesn't mean that he didn't date or even like black women. The white woman is the person who his heart went to and that is it! If you really think about it, black people are the true racist. I myself love my black sistas but this doesn't mean that i haven't given thought to other races.
@Whitebosdoitbetta, I'm not saying ur necessarily WRONG for coming on this site. This is a PUBLIC forum, that's factual. I just can't understand your reasons for wanting to. That's like if I were dating a white man, I could care less about the bickering that goes on amongst them and their white women. I'm not white so therefore, I would not feel liberated to add my two cents into an argument that I have no UNDERSTANDING nor interest! The words are so true of this statement---> It's a black thing, u wouldn't understand..dismissed
@ms_thang17 UM YOU SAID HIS COMMENTS WERE OFFENSIVE..I THINK NOT.I THINK CALLING PPL CR@CKERS AND HONKEY IS OFFENSIVE OK.JUST LIKE IT SISNT OKAY TO SAY N!GGER BUT BLACK PPL ON THIS SITE CALL EACH OTHER THAT EVERY DAY ON THIS SITE..O BUT ITS OKAY CAUSE THEIR BLACK..IT ISNT.SO YEAH I SEE YOU GUYS LOVE THAT DRAMA...SO SWEETIE YOU DONT UNDERSTAND BECAUSE YOU DONT DATE OUTSIDE YOUR RACE..SO YOU CANT RELATE.
Mizzthang, they r beautiful,id put a pic up but mofukkas have no shame on here, and if someone talks bout my babies all bets r off,imma lose it.lol. I still may do it sometime soon though.work is busy, we just enrolled a patient to hospice so its been a lil change in the dynamics of the facility.anywho.....oh ya, u should be proud girl, I haven't went in too bad on any of these hate white girl comments.lol
wow...smh at all the racism..if MLK Jr. were alive, he'd be shakin his damn head too.Its a shame that so many ppl fought for IR couples to even be here today and all you ppl dont give a damn.Talk about history, and how most of yall dont even care about it.Anyone can be with anyone they want.Stop being closed-minded and take a look at reality.By 2020, "mixed races" will be the majority.White ppl dont "show off black ppl" when theyre in an IR relationship,thats ignorant thinking.Also,There are BLACK women with WHITE men.White ppl endure racism by black ppl today.Time to move forward ppl.
Katdaddy there are sorry men in every culture, no one is questioning why their woman love them? Why would you call yourself sorry in the first place...if you see so many sorry boys/men around you, why not reach out to them, mentor them if anything you should praise a black woman for loving black men at least you know her love for black men is genuine. Do you really need an intelligent answer for such a simple question?
there are millions more white women in america than black women, this is why the choice of women more than likely will fall back to the white women. Think!!!! it's not about black men fiending for the white women, it's the white womens abundance in america. A black man doesn't discriminate when it comes to love. Stop being hateful and think about it!!
@missgrownazz BTW HE HAS A LIFE AND THINGS TO DO SO I CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION FOR YOU CAUSE ME AND HIM THINK ALIKE. THE REASON HE FELT HE HAD TO SAY SOMETHING ON THE SUBJECT BECAUSE HE DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT THE BIG DEAL ABOUT INTERRACIAL RELATIONSHIPS..I AGREE WHAT IS THE BIG DEAL??MORE AND MORE PPL ARE GOING TO DO IT BECAUSE OF IDIOTS LIKE YOU THAT HATE ON IT.LOVE DOESNT AND SHOULDNT SEE COLOR.PERIOD.SO YEAH HE CAN SPEAK HIS MIND,JUST AS MUCH AS THE REST OF THESE ILLITERATE F@CKS ON HERE.
@Ezra_Yisrael1970... Do disrespect but all I get out of dating a ww or hw is a Nut and maybe sone cultural understanding! As far as religion goes, Catholiism has there grip on the blk community already! They dress it up as Christianity ! Genocide???? Sweety we all evolved from the same cave men just different skin pigmentation!
@ Ezra
U racist bytch ! Who the hell are you to come in here and fix yo mouf to hand out journalism awards and shyte ! GTFOH !
My opinion, all u mufukkas in here that got a problem with IR relationships need to eat a dykk-up !
If a white man said to your son or daughter "I don't think yall should be together and I don't believe in that" yall would be up in arms !
Again, sistas need to figure why this is so prevalent for bm and fix that shyte, or else yall gonna look up and all these brothas are gonna be gone !
Im out !
@blubabiecutie28-First and foremost, I have dated outside my race. I am the product of a racially diverse family. That's great that you found love, with WHOEVER it may be. Don't assume that I've never IR dated just because I don't ride or co-sign with the other IR sided individuals. I think people are upset that your BF trying to insert himself in the mix...as you can tell, he's getting his ass roasted...
WTH are are u all meeting these BW that have these HORRIBLE attitudes?? AND if you've met that many of them and the common denominator is you then maybe you should re-evaluate your self?? Not the BW. The "ALL BW Have Stank Attitudes Thats Why I Dnt Date Them" is a LAME ass excuse. i have no problem with IRs but to do it for any other reason than love for that person is wrong IMO.
@253sfinest-I'm very, very proud of you. Yoy've been damn good today. See, we didn't take that NCLEX-RN test for nothing. I know it's hard to turm the other cheek on this b*tch but sometimes you have to be the bigger person. Girl, we save lives...that supercedes ANYTHING that is discussed on MTO. Lol! It's all about the greater good with members of the clinical world...it's like a sorority in a way. But, I agree...when people f*ck with your kids, all bets are off. Keep the kids out of the bullsh*t!
But Kat it is not a black woman's job to fix the black man that is what has been so misleading for years, embedded in him for the sole purpose to believe a black woman is not worthy...only a man can fix himself... date who you want to date but you can't blame black woman for black men dating outside thier race as a matter of fact the only reason he should, should be because of true love and not because the black woman needs to fix him..huh? what? really? Yet you want an intelligent answer to simple questions...smh! I don't care who dates who as long as you love them
@ ShanluvsDMB, Sweetie, I dont care about u being offended. Ask me if I care...dont worry, i'll wait...HELL NO I DON'T! I make comments according to how I FEEL, those are MY personal thoughts. U think blacks aren't called "mammy" or WORSE by many whites everyday..?? So what, I'm a REALIST and I choose to fight fire with fire as well as OPEN my eyes to the way blacks are still being treated today. THAT'S ME, NOT U. U don't like it? U are offended?? Sorry..next time u see a post that says "missgrownazz" keep ur black azz moving..
@ms_thang17 O WHATEVER ITS BECAUSE HE IS WHITE,PERIOD.ITS A FREE FREAKING COUNTRY AND HE CAN SPEAK HIS MIND JUST AS MUCH AS THE REST OF THE RACIST BLACK PPL ON THIS THREAD.O YEAH EVERY RACE HAD SLAVERY BTW..READ UP.SO DONT ACT LIKE BLACK PPL WERE THE ONLY ONES.THAT WAS OUR ANCESTORS THAT WERE SLAVES..THAT WAS THE PAST.TIME TO MOVE ON TO THE FUTURE.DAMN THE NATIVES HAD IT HARD TOO,BUT THEY DONT TALK ABOUT EVERY FREAKING DAY.I HAVE NATIVE AMERICAN IN MY BACKGROUND SO I CAN SPEAK ON THAT TOO,ANYWAYS NEXT!!
The African-American male has been CONDITIONED TO WANT THE WW by years of media images tailored just for him. You covet what you SEE. It takes a strong-minded BM to resist. Where do WW have the most access to BM? Why … corporate America! The music industry! The motion pictures! Etc., etc., etc. The lust-prone and weak-minded will succumb. Mission accomplished. And here that BM thot he was doing BIG THANGS of his own volition. NOT. Just carried by the waves.
Hahahahah! Wake up Jill we are in year 2010.. African ppl sold their own ppl to the whites so who's fault is it really? And if none of that happened then your fat ass wouldn't be in america. Be happy bitc that our Black ppl are strong and have been thru enough to say we are stronger than the white race.. Anyway let me sit bak and get my di ck sucked by this white bitch next to me :D
SHUT DA F/UCK UP ERR BODY! TOMORROW REGGIE WILL HAVE F/UCKED KIM AGAIN, PAULA WILL STILL BE GIVING BIRTH TO ROBINS BABY, BARRY WILL STILL BE BIRACIAL, FLAVOR FLAV WILL STILL BE UGLY, BEYONCE WILL STILL SUCK, JILL STILL GON MAKE NEO SOUL MUSIC AND MY PERIOD WILL STILL BE ON BUT WHAT DA F/UCK DOES ALL DAT HAVE TO DO WIT THA COST OF TEA IN CHINA...WELL I'LL TELL YA YALL NEED TO FOCUS ON THOSE DAMN ASIANS AND RUSSIANS CUZ THEY GUNNING FOR ALL OF US CONFUSED AZZ AMERICANS!
@blubabiecutie28-B*tch shut your hostile ass up! Don't no muthaf*cka on this blog give two sh*tty fingers about your black-ass and his flat, pasty-pale ass. I don't have anything against IR but I do have a serious dislike for you. Slut, you are not the expection! You aren't the only b*tch that pulled a white guy! Shut up hoe and worry about your punk, piggy-pink-dick-ass boyfriend. Stupid b*tch. SMH!
LIKE JILL SCOTT SAID, BLACK WOMEN ARE DOING EVERYTHING ON THEIR OWN. SO WHY THE DESIRE TO HANG ON TO SUCH DEFECTIVE MEN?! WHY CONTINUE TO HAVE THEIR BABY. . .? AND NO MATTER WHAT, I NOTICED BLACK MEN BRING DOWN EVERY WOMAN THEY ARE WITH. (LOOK AT KATSTACKS BEING PIMPED OUT AND BEATEN BY HERS. THE TIGER WOODS INCIDENT. AND WE'VE ALL SEEN THEM BEAT ON NON-BLACK WOMEN.) THE PROBLEM ISN'T BLACK WOMEN.
akademics7 I don't understand if most of the brothas on here are telling black women to toned down their attitudes, why can't they accept it. It's the truth instead of saying okay I'll try that they want to argue. We don't want a door mat or an overly aggressive women. Just a supportive feminine partner. Notice I did not say STRONG or WEAK. ------------------------------------------------------
Because thats what these weak black wenches of this day and age do now.
Sit around and give us the third degree and then when we answer, turn around and try to shout us down over it. SMH.
Remember Black women-- 70% single.
THATS YOUR BATTING AVERAGE!
You arent in any position to be shouting down any man in what they want and/or desire in their FEMININE women. Especially with the way you BLACK WITCHES jump on these internet forums complaining about how you-- OUT OF EVERY OTHER RACE of WOMEN-- just cant seem to find men.
You black hos are a G.D. joke. Look in the mirror and find yourselves
@blubabiecutie28-Trick please! You wish you could say that my picture is fake!!!! LOL!!!! Bitch, you couldn't get on my level "look wise" if they were giving away plastic surgery...lol...I'm a ex-model hoe! Something that you'll never get experience..lol...You're just jealous that you man might find me attractive and upgrade...lol..weak b*tches kill me...don't be upset that's a dime and you're a rusty, green penny...lol.
She needs to grow up and get over that bullshit. How can we acknowledge that the first person on earth was from the continent of Africa, but yet be caught in this muck and mire. If that's the case, all of our lighter skinned brothers and sisters, who are of mixed parentage, should be shunned as well. This means the president, whose mama was white. GROW THE EFF UP, black people. Leave this simpleton bullshit to the Tea Party dimwits. Get educated, and get your piece of the rock.
YO YALL AINT NOTICE IT'S ALL BLAC DUDES AND BLACKS FEMALES BEEFIN THIS SHYT OUT TYSON STYLE I READ A COMMENT UP TOP WHERE ONE WHITE DUDE HAD SOM'N DECENT TO SAY (DONT FEEL LIKE SCROLLING BACK UP TO GET A NAME) YO YALL SOME LAMES. IM GON F/UCK WHO I WANT END OF STORY AND IF YA SOUL BURN DATS CUZ YA SOUL AINT SETTLED. NOW IF YA DYCK OR PUZZY BURN DATS CUZ YOUZ A NASTY MAFUKA!
@ blubabiecutie28, I'm far from an idiot babygirl, that's number one. I haven't offended u directly by calling u anything other than a black woman,so I would appreciate the same. Second, where have u ever read a post where I was "hating" on an IRR?? Some of u people have the game backwards..Why can't I AS A BLACK WOMAN, be in love with BLACK LOVE without me having to be a hater of IRR?? I NEVER said u were wrong for loving ur white man, or him loving u, same for black men and white women. I am just a lover of black love..nothing wrong with that..GAME OVER if u think differently..
BLUBA I BET YO DISS BLACKS FOLKS MISGIVINGS WIT YO MAN DONT YOU? ITS OKAY YO AINT GOT TO BE HONEST WIT ME IT DON'T REALLY MATTER IM JUST ASKING. IT NEVER GETS OLD HOW INTER RACIAL DATERS AND IT BE THE BLACK FOLK DISSING BLACK FOLK LIKE DAY WHITE MAN OR GIRL IS CAP'N SAVE A SLAVE BUT AGAIN DATE WHO YOU GON DATE AND DONT LET NO BODY MAKE YOU FEEL BAD ABOUT IT. LOL (READ BETWEEN DA LINES AND NOT ON DA BLIND SIDE GRASSHOPPER BEFORE YOU RESPOND)
Wow, soo seriously? Your gonna meet a guy and say "im glad we met and good thing you didnt fall for a "becky"? REALLY?? lol no one likes an insecure, racist woman.Come here to Miami, theres every race you can think of, pick 1. All of you must be single to be this bitter. Every race was in slavery at one point in time. IR couples dont have to be about anything but love. Its sad that ppl on here think theres ulerior motives for every damn thing. Its SELFISH to want a "Superior" race.There's so many BW who want mixed grandkids.Lets be real.Your in the melting pot of the planet..!!
@ CAN WE ALL JUST GET ALONG
SOME OF DESE MUFAKAS BEEN ON HERE ALL DAY WHEN ITS BEAUTIFUL OUTSIDE ARGUING OVER A WOMAN WHO ONLY LIKES BLACK DYCK. I BET DEY WHITE COUNTERPARTS WAS OUT IN DIS SUN TANNING JUST SO THEY CAN GET DARKER AND REEL IN SOME MO BLACK DYCK DAT THE BLACK GIRL CAN'T GET! DIS ARGUMENT BEEN GOING ON SINCE THE FIRST BLACK DUDE LOST HIS HEAD FOR STARING AT A WHITE WOMAN AND IT STILL AINT OLD. DO WHO DA F/UCK YOU WANT FOR ALL DA RIGHT REASONS UNTIL THIS SHYT IS A PASSED BILL OR LAW AND EVEN THEN FOLKS GON F/UCK WHO DEY SO DAMN WELL PLEASE AND DESIRE.
@Ezra... If there is one I've learned, I know u can't get thru to a close minded individual! Ur so deep in your religion (judiasm right?), that your not even concious of what's going on around u. The past is the past.. You speak about the genocide of the blk race by but wouldn't the same be for whites? And didn't u say we have stronger genes then any other so... Who would really be extinct?? The thought of one race one species is not a bad idea.
Who loves HAterz i sure do lol An i can say [EXPLETIVE] if i god damn well please @Socialstudies i mean if yall can say cracka i can say w.e i [EXPLETIVE] want an NOONE SHOULD BE OFFENDED PERIOD PLAIN AN SIMPLE an if you don't like it don't comment on what i say Now aint that easy than bitching about it i think so lol @ms_thang17 i don't need to put a ring on my women finger to let her know i love her IM not rushing to get married an yo bitch ass needs a man i mean u sit on this site all damn day bitching about stupid [EXPLETIVE] an fyi i dont find ya attractive so sorry to burst your bubble
@missgrownazz the "A" vibe just feels @ home minus the whole metro-male thing going! But attitudes are a lot better females up here are crazy funny cause females would agree w me! Lmao as far as fun up here nothing much really a few clubs worth going to,few casinos,concerts etc like it better out of state though lol
Can_We_All_Get_Along Flag post I CAN TELL U PEOPLE DONT HAVE ALIFE YOU GUYS ARE STILL ON HERE ARGUING ABOUT SOMETHING STUPID AND CRAZY...
BLACK WOMEN ON HERE SOUND LONELY AND SAD, I FEEL SORRY FOR YAH SERIOUSLY -----------------------------------------------
They really do... I feel sorry for them too. Bitter Black c8nts.. pLEASE get a life.
And make sure your 3 OOW childs from 3 different daddies gets one too. The last thing we need is 3 more disgruntled future ex-con Ray-Ray's or Laquisha's on the corner again, because of the number their mothers did on them when they were younger.
@WhiteBoysDoItBest-LOL! Just when I was logging off I get a message...well, let me end my night on a great note (clearing throat). Dude, you're not fooling anyone by creating two accounts to make it seem like you a WM with a BW, b*tch you fail! Secondly, I haven't been on MTO allll damn dddaayyy arguing (re-read the tnread hoe) and thirdly, muthaf*cka, I've been married for 3 years piggy-pink dick so miss me with the bullsh*t...lol...you must the lowest of the whiteboys on the totem pole..lol
@ jessypooh THANK U:)MOMMY DOES COME FIRST,THATS WHY I PREFER TO BE ONE OVER A PROFESSIONAL DANCER.@mz_thang HAHAHA AN EX MODEL..SO PUT ANOTHER PIC UP..NOT SOMETHING FROM YRS AGO FAT AZZ.ANOTHER THING IM NOT A GHETTO HOODRAT,I WASNT RAISED IN A GHETTO.MIDDLE CLASS PREDOMINATLY WHITE NEIGHBORHOOD I GREW UP @.STFU B!TCH.I HAVE TO WORK NOW,BECAUSE I HAVE A LIFE.UNLIKE YOUR AZZ..HAHA.HATER.TATA:)
Did she just say white men treat black women better than black men? Are u a fking a$$? REALLY? Some of y'all who think that better stop watching Something New. I've seen plenty of wm give a bw a hard time and throw them under the bus. Treat them like crap. Okay why do some bw treat wm as a KING but treat bm like crap? Especially the good bm.
Also, somebody possibly you Tiplite mentioned why many sisters are AGAINST IR dating/screwing/marriage.
I can't speak for ALL so-called Black women but I can speak for me. My biggest issue is GENOCIDE, BONDAGE, MURDER, LIES, DECEIT, GENETICS, MALTREATMENT, INTRA-RACISM, RACISM, WESTERN CIVILIZATION, RELIGION, MINERVA WORSHIP, & MORE IMPORTANTLY SELF HATRED. ----- THERE YOU HAVE IT! This is Beautiful sister! Peace be unto you!
@Ezra.... If i knew u where black Hebrew and practice (judiasm).. I would have quit long time ago.... Black Hebrews are the most brainwashed group of individuals I know.. There anal bout everything... You can talk about a fuc.king penny and they'll give you a line out of the Torah about pennies.... Anyways it was cool speaking with you.. No disrepect either .. Just voicing my opinion
@ Ms_thang, Girl, don't I know it. Sometimes I love arguing with some of these hypocrites on here. Acting like you're wrong for having ur opinion, and at the same time, spreading their own propaganda and then, wanna yell when others don't agree. This whole forum is a merry-go-round of opinions, respect it. What I can't tolerate is the bashing, and insults and name calling and "others" jumping aboard tossing in their 2 cents when they have NO IDEA on the real BLACK experience and existence in America.
ok imma end this so called controversy right now....52% of african american women make up the black population..that leaves 48% black males...black women out number the males so even if every single black female had a black male..you would have alot of single black males out there with no female to date...so they have to date someone dont they???
blubabiecutie28-I laugh at wanna-be divas like you. You think you're hot sh*t...oh, wait...you are...your a streaming hot pile of useless sh*t...Somebody's babymama with a white boy that ain't put a ring on it?!?!? What a loser you must be huh? Say what you will about my pic pigeon but it is what it is...Tell me what it's like to be a baby mama because I wouldn't know..bwhahah!
I'm out too! Later Clarkie, Ms_thang and sexytranny! For u silly, non-technological dumbazzes (u know who u r)...mto is also wireless which means u can handle ur biz while posting, also here u r 2! U can't tell people been on all day, if ur azz wasn't here reading all 1300 post! Delusional idiots! Later!
@ms_thang17 THOUGHT UR HOE A$$ WAS DIPPIN OUT LMAO AN FYI YOU DONT EVEN LOOK BLACK...SO SHUT YA HOE ASS UP AN IF U WERE AN X MODEL GET A NEW [EXPLETIVE] PIC UP CUZ I BET YOU JUST A TROLL HOE ANYWAYS IM OUT 4 GOOD I GOT A BUNCH OF [EXPLETIVE] I GOT TO DO INSTEAD OF BEING ON THE COMPUTER PEACE MSTHANG GO GET SUM DICK HOE..
HATERZ MAKE ME FAMOUS
@sexytranny Its wasn't a fuss it was a debate but me calling you dumb is uncall for. So sorry about that. But yeah my thing is that black relationships are not together anymore. Instead of arguing about the problem. We should fix it. Everybody take the time to fix their own problem then come together and fix Black Love.
@Ezra.. With you being Hebrew I know your going to say that everything I was taught in school was a lie... Why because Hebrews (blacks) that there's a black side to every white story which is cool, I'm not religous, but my point is.. Just because whites lied and murder and injust blacks in the past doesn't mean I can't befriend and date the white girl in the class .. Live in the future and remember the past!
sweatmytechnique86, Well, maybe u should move to the ATL then. Casinos, concerts, yea..same here, if that's ur interest. I like things like poetry readings, tea rooms, art exibits, museums, etc..,I know, lame right?? I like to avoid the "clubbing" nightlife. I did enough of that when I was in my teens..lol.
THe ones dating black are the ones that would affect the direct outcome of both THEM and the community. Not the minute numbers of one or two ww-chasin' Sambo nxggers.
Which further shows that the black women whom all of a sudden seem to jump on the "pro-black/black conscious" boat in here with the mumbo-jumbo talk of "slavery" and anecdoctal notes of what the BM and BW "went through together" on these issues, is solely out of anything but. Its nothing but rhetoric to cover their insecurities of what they feel is competition from "the other side". Not out of a real concern for "black issues".
@missgrownazz nothing lame about that social life I myself am college student work part time, females up here might say I'm boring cause I'm not a goon or run the St but run to me when they partner f*ckin up smh I smash but pat them on the butt send them on their merry lil way! Don't get me wrong I love bw when you guys are on your sh!t your #1 but ones up here priorities /mental is shot smh
@WhiteBoysDoItBest-Oh, you just want a new picture up so that you see how much better I look than your girlfriend....that's my favorite one white boi, it's not changing on account of you. As for going to suck dick (salute) I aye captain, my man loves my head game...that's why I'm a wife and your girl is a baby mama begging for a ring...(wink) let us know how that turns out (putting on chapstick)...now, allow this hoe to go stuck some major d*ck...Oh Byron honey!!!!
Well written.
It is not my place to judge anyone. Love knows no boundries.
I, myself, a black woman presently dating and in love with a white man. Not like i intended it to happen. It just did. Never say never. Not sure how people at MTO view my relationship, can't say that i care to much.
Peace, Love, Unity
And the most amusing thing about this situation is that-- if we were to even compare the marriage statistics of ww vs. bw to bm-- the bw would have been won this HANDS down.
It would be a wrap before the contest would have culminated--simply because BLACK MEN DATE/LOVE and MARRY BLACK WOMEN more than any other group.
But the bxtches on here would rather ignore reality, and STILL try to find some way to snake around the issue and bash these good brothas out here thats on they job.
SMH Black women are turning their own men away with their self-destructive tendencies and they dont even know it.
Goodnight all..great dialogue today! Tastysis(my girl), Ezra, Clark, ms_thang, sexytranny, alluakbhar, da_don1, heroman2000, jayanderson, socialstudies, sweatmytechnique87, Getoboys, NINE7,BrooklynLatina, heedra, tuff_tony, misshugrad, bigpimpinET100, and dreayonn...look forward to reading u guy's posts in the next thread!! I KNOW I just did a laundry list of names, sorry..lol. Luv u all my beautiful black people!! ***Spread black love, not hate***
@WhiteBoysDoItBest-And another thing...You're the "white boy" that's patrolling (sp) on a "black: website looking for acceptance in a black community...lol...who's the lame, troll looking, muthaf*cka now. You're not famous b*tch, you're a weak-ass white boy!!! Re-read the thread wigga and remember, your pale ass got roasted...and it wasn't the first time. Clarkthink & sexytranny had that ass running like a slave...bwahahah!
LMFAO
Can't stop laughing at the Statue of Liberty comment
Especially since it was monument originally crafted out of COPPER by a French dude and was tarnished by the sea water and elements and turned green through a chemical reaction.
And lastly the chains at the feet of The Statue of Liberty are a symbol of freedom to the "shackled" meaning all those who were oppressed by religion, class and racism of all kinds, etc.
Sorry for deviating from the topic. Continue bickering!
there's a reason why single women are single today.
And if the opinion of black women's favorite t.v. past-time mentors Oprah and Tyrah (whom black women willingly love, trust, listen to daily and subscribe to) carried any weight-- then that means 70% of you sistas are single and for a DXMN reason.
Its time to change, sistahs. When Obama was getting inaugurated and y'all was ALL in the streets, chantin' about "Change", but when it came to you doing that for yourselves that's just out of the question, right? SMH It's time for you hoes to take a LOONG look in the dxmn mirror in 2010.
Jill, I love you, but stop being bloody stupid. Who cares that he married a white chic? Does your soul "burn" when you see a sister with a white bloke? I assure you, Africans, real Africans like me who were born and bred IN AFRICA and know what it is to BE African, don't give a toss. Seriously. We African women don't care who black men marry. Are you married? Yes. Are you happy? Yes. So why should I go kicking off??? Speak for yourself love. Because seriously? I can't be arsed.
Excellent piece of writing. I just don't understand why the Black-Man chose to ignore a Beautiful Black Sister! Broke, they are chasing after the Black-Woman. When $UCE$$ come knocking at their door,they open up the door and let a Stranger(White-Woman)in. We(Black-Man) just don't Care about our Race and our History!!!
@253"mixed babies that grow up with your kids" huh? Black people are more accepting of biracial children than whites, so you can shut the fucc up with that one. And I live in Washington BooBoo no black chick is giving you attitudes about being with a black dude. Black chicks here want white guys and black dudes want white girls. So again you can shut the fucc up with that one. Washington is one of the leading states for biracial children and relationships. And just about everyone accepts it unless you live on one of those islands like Mercer, Woodbey, etc..which you DON'T. They give you attitude because you have a stank ass attitude.
@"raddyman" babe? I'm on mto mobile so I don't know if your male or female but I around my way that's the mentality of a good population of bw where I'm from don't get me wrong I love them but a lot wanna date asswipes and have they kids and wanna make up with the good dudes when sh!t fall down! Go listen to Nas "black girl lost"
Jill is expressing her feelings. I agree w/Parfait. Its a trend that is now becoming a social norm. Contrary to belief we (black women) no longer dwell on it. Ratio of black women/men in college: >2:1 why? black women have accepted the trend and decided to take the appropriate measures to secure their future. I guess (black men) thought this was gonna make us more submissive; it just made us more Bossy.
OK, Oscarthegrouch ! Im damn near ready to co-sign with you. I tried to tell they @sses the nice way......and it ain't work. So now Im finna tell'em your way.
Ezra= Crackpot crazy @zz black isrealite bullshyte ! Figures, I should have known with all that wild fake pro-black shyte u was spittin.
Black women, most of you guys are the ones that have a problem with this, but have no clue why this is happeneing (black men dating white women in droves over yall)
@Heaven You're so right,I've been leaving and checking back on my Iphone. My mind hasn't really changed that much. I only agreed with you and maybe only 5 other people on here. I did get everyone's point, I just didn't feel the same way. But I graduate in 2011 with a dual degree in Biology and English UW-Seattle,BooBoo. Shout out to my Huskies we almost had it :( P.S. I like ya so don't take my jabs to seriously ;)
The reason a successful black men marry other races is because they expect more from them and they have standards. Some of you black women will let men get by just by throwing d!ck! White women hold their men to a much higher standard. You black women let most black men give you d!ck and kids and you're content with that! Black women also need to leave the sneakers, tattoos on the neck and rainbow colored hair behind. Your appearance is the FIRST thing a man sees!
WOW. THIS REALLY NEEDS TO STOP. THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH INTERACIAL DATING. THERES SOMEONE OUT THERE FOR EVERYONE NO MATTER WHAT COLOR OR RACE THEY ARE.
INM GLAD I DONT HAVE TO DEAL WITH THAT CRAP WITH MY MAN. ALOT OF WOMEN NO MATTER WHAT RACE TEND TO BE ATTRACTED TO THE WRONG KIND OF MEN. IF U SEE A BLACK MAN WITH A WHITE WOMAN WHO CARES. IT SHOULDNT BOTHER YOU BEING THAT HES NOT IN A RELATIONSHIP WITH " YOU ". ONE RACE IS NOT OBLIGATED TO DATE WITHIN THEIR OWN RACE.
@ Truth
You gon have a boatload of sistas on your @ss for that one...
All Im sayin is, Sistas get on here and hate on IR relationships, but dont do shyte to tip the scales in their favor. BW, fight the stereotype about yall havin mad attitude and bein bitter @ss bytches, and the perceptions about you will change, instead of losin yo gawd'am mind in the checkout line at walmart ! LOL
@kattdaddy2: I also asked in the very beginning of the thread to anyone that would be nice enough to reply with a fair enough answer as to why SOME bw get all up in arms about bm dating/marrying white or non-black women but when it's the other way around? You barely here a peep from them & are quick to give props to a sista smh Hypocrisy @ its finest but oh well,it is what it is lol I have absolutely no problem with IR relationships since to me love is love @ the end of the day but if you're going to be against something,be an equal opportunity discriminator.
Outtaline
That bath was refreshing! Thanks for the advice, however if I was singling u out I would have typed ur name like u typed mine. U weren't the only lurker u posted that, and my thing is if u weren't here then doesn't that make u one of the peeps that been in here 4 hrs? Maybe u shoulda busted those suds wit a sista :)
Kattedaddy
U help the divide in the black community. Ur desrespful, and u generalize with ridicuols assumptions and ur own experience. Ur theory about the neck rolling sista, is as plausable as the angry bm! Angelaheiress I see y u got called out earlier! U r a bw, but not a American bw and u date out! I'm a nationalist so sistas dating wm is not a good look in my eyes so there is ur answer.
As a black woman I don't have an issue with IR dating, but I would be lying if I said it doesn't sting a little when I see a successful bm with a ww. The reason being is because it often times when a bm becomes successful he doesn't seem to look back to the bw who may have supported him all along. He looks forward to the ww to be his trophy.
@ angelaheiressnyc
hypocrites everywhere on here. I can't get a sista to tell me why bm IR date so much, or why they think it's like that. I have a theory but they ain't ready.
I say if sistas are mad about all these IR relationships, then do something about it. Start by combatting the negative stereotypes. How come everybody think sistas are bitter and have attitude ???
@Kattdaddy it seems like you use the worst case scenarios to give a perception of who black women are. Never have I been to a Wal*Mart and seen black women flash on a cashier. Not every black woman is a loud mouth, neck rolling, finger snapping, section 8 collecting hoodrat. There are more black women in college than there are black men in college but when we talk about race and gender you like to give black women hood rat images. You don't see black women on the site saying,"oh these black mofos can't get it together always going to jail, getting shot and killed, and ending up in prison." Because we have more respect for black men to just go by the statistics. We've seen good black man so we know there's different out there. Just like I’m sure you’ve seen good black women you just choose to close your eyes to it because if it ain't white it ain't right. And if this is what you really think most black women are then you need to quit looking in the projects.
kattdaddy2
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Nah, bruh.
I and I'm retty sure just about every other brotha in this forum doesnt mind bw being pro-black. Matter we encourage it!
Its just that many of us are tired of bw playin' the white man's Mammy all across Amerikkka, bashing brothas on their television talk shows WHENEVER they get the chance, threatening to date out-- but then want to turn all pro-black and share anecdoctal notes on "slavery" as soon as they turn on a t.v. set and see a black man strutting down the red caret with a ww. GTFOH
we tired of the games, sistas! pick a side
@tastysis: Thanks for the reply & how was I called out? Oh you mean the trolls/multiple sn users that weren't minding their business & got upset because I was agreeing with someone else? That's pretty silly if you ask me lol. I think some ppl here just love to e-beef or what not but that's not my thing.
@ sexytranny
Im good, thanks for asking. Im not mad at all, that would make me a ....bitter bm LOL.
@ Tastysis
Not true. Im looking to unite us through dialogue. We aint gotta agree, but we should talk about it. I think sistas like you who hate on IR relationships are racist, simple as that. And If a white man told your son he couldn't date his daughter if he wanted to, you would be the first one in here calling that man a cracka !
@TheTruth052489
You say that sistas don't have high standards. Are you kidding?? That is why most of them are single, they don't have time for the okie doke. When brothas approach us they don't come correct, they don't have the job, the education, the house. They get mad when we say "go back to school", "get your education", all of a sudden we nag, we can't shut up. So bm get resentful because we want better for ourselves. You then do everything you should've done before you aproached us, you start listening to your mamas, and then you want to go with a white chick and talk shyt
@kattdaddy2: LOL even though there are certain things you've stated that I don't fully agree with? You are very much entitled to your opinion & put on a hell of a debate so I gotta give it to you. I saw how you handled yourself with missugard earlier as well as paid attention to several of your post on this site before & I enjoy reading. Btw,please do tell me about the debate because I'm ready! lol
@Oscah As a black woman I don't get the whole "Something New" Imma swirl too attitude. Just because you're mad at a black man you're going ot fall into the arms of a white man. And then announce it to world that your about to jump ships. Do these black women not think that the white guys aren't listening to this. They're getting the condoms ready to slay some black puzzy and leave them for their white chick when they're done. Who wouldn't? Come on a man hears a whole demographic of women saying they're about to only drop panties for them how isn't he ready to jump on board.
@ tastysis
I never said all sistas are neck-rolling idiots. All Im sayin is there are way too many like that, enough to create this perception of black women, and one of the main reason that brothas IR date.
@ msblackberry
I feel you are absolutely right, and Im telling you that bm don't care why yall are like that. We would rather just leave your bitter @sses alone and go get a happy @ss white girl who for whatever reason, ain't bitter, and want nothin in life but to be with a brotha who's gonna love they @ss and give'em the mandingo.
@heavenhollywood: LOL I ask because whenever mto post a thread regarding Halle Berry,Sanaa Lathan or Tatyana Ali? Most of the comments from female bloggers are quite positive on which you read things like : "Well,he probably treats her like a queen" "If bm can do it,why can't we" "he's a seel-out/coon" & of course,you have the typical bm bashers,since they never fail. I'm not trying to start anything however I just want to understand why SOME bw are so passionate about bm dating/marrying out & why they don't display the same sentiments when it's the other way around?
This is the age old dispute...the black man and the white woman go back as far as slavery...black women feel like they are "entitled" to black men because we are the same color...Im sorry sistas but this is false...and this argument makes the sistas look more racist then "whitey". Nobody is complaining when yal want the pinky dinky...so back the [EXPLETIVE] up...do you...cuz Im gonna do whoever the [EXPLETIVE] I please!!!!
@ thirdeye
No, I dont think all women are ignorant in the walmart, but too many are is all Im sayin and it creats the perception that they are. Tell me why white/asian/spanish women dont have these perceptions about them ??? Because too many sistas act like that. Not all, just way too damn many. Brothas too, we need to fix our image.
IR has nothing to do with BW and their attitudes but everything to do with BM wanting light skinned children and that is the fact. Why BW walking thinking that they need to change themselves, it don't matter, he don't want you because your black. And last I checked you can't change that!! Ask Micheal, shyt............ Child Please!!!!!!
Kattedaddy
Enough of this nice guy act! Too many bm r in jail, dead, underemployed & uneducated! This is not something that I say with glee In my heart, but its the phucking truth! If I choose 2 date out & gave those reasons I would look as stupid as u do! Ur 2 old & smart 4 this bullshyte! Date whomever u want, but u never throw ur own under the bus 4 it! That is blastphaomy!
@angel- I'm just throwing my thoughts out there when I say this, but I think that the reason ppl dont judge bw harshly when they date outside their race is because ppl tend to think that in order for a bw to start dating a wm its because she has already had her share of "the non-progressive" blk man and she's upgrading. However when a bm does it, its because he thinks he's above bw. Not saying I agree with this but that's just one of my theories.
ok this is messed up, I have learnt nothing from these comments at all except that black men and women can’t see eye to eye
black women are Loud rude Aggressive Combative Hood rats
Black men are Thugs jail birds Abandon their children (even the bi-racial ones) Allergic to work Allergic to marriage Wannabe rappers Kill each other
NEWS FLASH Black men dog all races of women so can we please stop fighting over garbage. I wish I could fix all the black men on here with white women and all the black women with white men just so that you would all SHUT UP ALREADY!
@ tastysis
Listen, I am dating the sweetest sista on the planet right now, hands down, so this ain't about me. She agrees with me and wonders why some sistas are so gawd'am bitter. Tell me, why do black women have the stereotype about them being bitter, ignorant, mean-spitited, and materialistic WHY ???
No other race other race has this for a stereotype except sistas and I need you to tell me why ? This is the perception of you by other races, and black men too ???
@ sexytranny
(you keep talking about how black women look in eyes the of the world. I'm sorry to tell you but in the eyes of the world kno one look worst then the black man.)
I agree, and this means what ? I already said we need to fix our image too. The difference is, our perception is not stopping sistas from dating us.
Tell me why she had a child with a gay man and is divorced 37 years old and no man. Maybe its bw that have the problem? I'm all for interracial dating but most of the black women I know including family are just plain out bitches and end up alone like Jill. Maybe black women need to change their attitudes.
Every word that Jill spoke in this essay was the pure truth. Our history as African Americans should never be forgotten. This is not about rasicm or seperation. It is simply having pride in self and ones own race. White women in America are praised. While as black people, we still have to struggle everyday. No matter the amount of money or status you nay have, if you are black, you were made to struggle. We are the true kings and queens of this earth and until that is understood, this essay will mean nothing to the naysayers and individuals that condemn it!
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You say that sistas don't have high standards. Are you kidding?? That is why most of them are single, they don't have time for the okie doke. ------------------------------------------------
You broads sure as hell make enough time for the "okie doke" when it comes to pooping out OOW babies at the alarming rate that you do, with three kids by three different "baby daddies", while "Becky" skates off with that same black future billionaire "nerd" that you black broads passed up in highschool, calling him "corny".
You black women just need to stop.
@katt.Honestly just by the things you have written today. I think you're one of those black men who think you're better than black women. And this black women that you're supposedly with is one of those women who'll see a negative depiction of black women and not think it's referring or poking fun at her. Hopefully I'm wrong, but I'm usually always right.
@heavenhollywood sorry but I cannot co-sign to your delusions of black male universal appeal black males like white males (and all people) are falliable humans not some mythological deity to be worshipped. And no, I am from Memphis a pretty diverse place not some out of the way racist town. But like I said the white girls there that date black guys are not usually high caliber the black women that the white guys date though are usually pretty attractive not sure what accounts for the disparity.
KATTDADDY2:
you know you sitting here speaking of what the WOMAN is NOT you, makes you a NAGGIN A.SS BLACK MAN! I LOOOOOVEEEE MY BROTHAZ but if my last option was you..... I'd be single you just aint a strong enough BLACK MALE to handle the gripe of a HEADSTRONG FEMALE so rather white, black, hispanic, or asian purple blue or green you OPT for the weaker being that wont express their opinion!
i dont know what ghetto u live in, but i live in the burbs and am surrounded by bw with advanced degrees, so child please! there are bw out there that need to get it together with all that baby dady drama, but i am not gonna go in on bm about their short comings because u already know and this is not tit for tat. all i am saying is, it has nothing to do with bw being this or that, bm just want wm, they want half white kids and to be seen ans non threatning, they cant do that with a strong bw on they arm
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pLZ! Its obvious you dont know black men today at all. Having a KID nevertheless a HALF-WHITE kid is the LAST thing on a black man's mind. You and I both know black men dont care for kids like that. Hell just look at all the single white mothers walking around with their half-black mulatto children.
the notion of having half-white mulatto children for "lighter skin and good hair" is something only BLACK WOMEN have abided by. SOMEONE'S pROJECTING!
Maybe Jill wasn't jealous they were an interracial couple. She was probably hating cause they were married. After all, she just brought another Black baby into the world without being married. Blog about that and her role in the total destruction of the Black family unit. I guess "why did I get married too" was just a movie role for her. Smdh!
wow. racism in this country will never die because of [EXPLETIVE] like this. why does anyone care about some black man dating a white woman? as long as they make each other happy, who cares their motives, they happy!!! i date black women because i like the color of their skin against mine. what does that make me? and when i am with a fine sista, why is it that black men are offended? is it because when you see a white man with a sista, she is fine, and when you see a black man with a white woman, she fat, ugly, and just nasty as hell?...... just askin
@Heaven people love a good conspricary theory article. I checked it out and left no comment. I'm not really into all of that since both of my grandfather's were Masons and I know it for what it is. I think people are just believing in off the wall $hit because they have too much time on their hands. And they find comfort in beleiving their is some group controlling the world and stopping them from getting an education and career so they dont have to look at their own short coming.
@ thirdeye
Yes, you are wrong. My girl knows damn well I aint talkin about her when Im speakin on these racist bitter neck-rolling chicken heads. Again, not all sistas are like that, but some are. Why cant yall admit that ???
Also, BM dont care what color they kids are, but sistas do. They are the ones that raise them lil half-breeds, always talkin bout how cute they are. My girl is a half breed cuz her daddy is white.
man i feel her everybody talkin about get over it its a free country ok tru but it damn sure is the truth it bothers me when i see a brother wit a white girl.just like a [EXPLETIVE] see a a black gurl wit some dizzy white man i feel the wince of betrayal i kno blacc men could be shitty sometimes but they all aint they same.i dnt date outside my race just becuz i love my blacc men.whites guys is cool white gurls are to but i think ppl have the reasons why thet y date white men or white women i cnt say there good reason cuz in my opinion i dnt think they are
@ oscathegrouch; u wish i was projecting! i have no reason to be mad, i have a man, and standards, child please! i am just stating the facts. bm have been telling me this themselves, so whatever! i have white ppl i deal with, wome, who tell me that they have purposely used the n word to see what their men would do, and they said they didnt bat an eye, also, they tell them they want ww so they could have cute kids, dont kill the messenger
What about all the nyggas that date yellow @ss mixed black girls cuz they want pretty mixed kids, then come in here with this pro-black bullshyte ? Nygga pleez !
So, Im not a hyocrite just I chose to tell sistas about themselves. The only ones takin it personal are the racist bitter IR relationship hateing sistas Im speakin on. Dont mean I don't love sistas, cuz I do. I just think yall need to get over that bitter bullshyte and move on. Find u a man and stop yur bytchin !
@ bluediamond
See, at least you admit you are a racist hater broad.... You think when white girls see a white dude with a sista they say "He betrayed us" Hell naw ! WTF, you sistas think yall own us or some shyte ??? GTFOH ! If yall mad when you see me with a white girl, then stay bitter and mad.
And Jill, you need to do whatever the f#$k that white girl is doin to get that good black man ! If she can do it, you can do it !
Black men want a Robot for a woman. I don't see how any normal woman, black, white, etc...put up with any man mess. Y'all want a woman to be submissive but is that what you all really want? A lot of you men just want someone who you all can control. Stop using that "Black women won't do this and black women got a attitude, blah blah blah" as an excuse. Maybe, it's not the black women maybe it's a lot of you all. *SHRUGS*
@katt I don't think any sistas are bitter, that's so 90's "Waiting To Exhale." I think it's more so a minor annoyance when blacks refuse to date outside their race but luckily I think long term. Luckily these type of black people will be bred out because their biracial children will date and marry white and so on and on. Can't wait...
It's also funny how these black men are acting like black women are just so jealous of interracial relationships but yet when they see black women date non-black men they get mad lol. Of course the black men will deny and say it doesn't bother them but deep down they're probably wondering how did that guy get that women, especially if she's beautiful. I'm sure it does strike a nerve.
Answer this, If a so-called "weak white woman" can acquire a successful black man, how come some of you bitter hater bytches can't ? Like Jill, she's a successful and pretty black woman......who married a gay man and is divorced with a kid at 37 ???
@ coco take some responsibility for your attitude havin @ss. Sistas do have an attitude, or at least that perception. You are nother black woman who confuses attitude with strength. Well a brotha don't wanna put up with your "strength/atttitude". I'd rather find a white girl who aint got such a chip on her shoulder and leave yo bitter @ss alone.
@Katt didn't know getting married aquired strength. [EXPLETIVE]... Oprah isn't married and is always topping Forbes for most powerful woman in the world. Hell, she picked our president. So you can stop with that.Really.. As far as attitude go Who can be more catty than a Becky, Megan, Susan, Summer, Piper, Heidi, or Lindsey? Yeah I guess it's attitude when it's out a black woman's mouth... Yeah, yeah, yeah we know. NEXT.
Honestly I have never met a black man that dated white women that I found attractive (other than celebrities. I have always be able to say " I'm shocked this ugly dude found anyone, so who cares if she is white, its not like I would have ever dated him". It just does not bother me. I have dated white guys in the past and my husband ( who is black) knows it & he never seemed bothered by it. My husband however has never dated anyone who was not black and doesnt find them attractive. Maybe it doesnt bother me because I don't feel threatened by them, I am very successful and so is my husband.
@heavenhollywood okay you whoever you are can get lots of love wherever you go great good for you but most of us white women are not docile, nasty or ready to jump the nearest black man that is avaliable there are certainly some white women who fit that bill and yes I have seen them but realize that is the exception not the rule. Anyways maybe you are also the exception not the rule maybe you are a black man who has Megan Fox types chasing him if so great life is too short to spend it with 500 pound white women who just got their GED and talk endlessly about their "beautiful mixed kids".
@heaven, a racist comment? no, that was not a racist comment, because my BLACK girlfriend said the same thing to me when we started dating, so go somewheres else with that al sharpton bullshit. and maybe it was a bit stereotypical what i said but the fact remains most black women who date white men are just tired of being mistreated by black men, and wanted to be treated right. just sayin........
Jill Scott needs to sit her Happy meal eating butt down somewhere. Black women have no control over the black man. Most black women are always looking for money. Two baby mother's one black, one white. The white one: just take care of your kids and be a father and help out with the bills when I need it. Black one: I'm taking yo black a** down for child support, cause you aint no good!!! Nuff said!
@whiteboyroy u got racist written all over u and i don't believe for one minute u have a "black gf" but that's besides the point. so carry on with ur secretly racist ways. Im sure u have 'black friends' and 'black neighbors just like ur "black girlfriend' i see through ur jive ass like glass. that's why i won't even take it there homeboy. You are much to easy for me to take you apart that's why no real black women on here so signed what u said."i like black women because i like the way their skin looks against mine" lmao if that isn't a racist slick comment i don't know what is
@white boyroy why roy because that's what all "black men do'? lmao you are a racist jealous white boy. please miss me with your bullshit. Just like how alll black men aren't packing all black men do not leave their women and cause them to get into porn and stripping. Sometimes a woman is just a hoe,sometimes she has a reason, sometimes she i single sometimes she is a rebel.Don't blame the black man's actions for the reason that alll black women strip lmao u are a straight BIGOT move on boy
Truth hurts but, guys like Katt daddy are sellouts that is why he doesn't defend BW. He laid his mom to rest and never looked back, and if he could jump in white paint to erase his Blackness, he wouldn't hesitate! Guys like him have deep unresolved issues that they are hiding behind. Mental illness runs deep in the Black community which include denial issues, abandonment and self hate issues.. the list goes on and on.
Love you Jill Scott!
@she 45 dont give them what they want. that is obviously someone that is on this site already thatjust made that profile because i have never seen that avi before or it is someone that has that avi only when they wanna make a racist point and they are cowards so that's why they hide behind the computer. smh
don't evennn get me on my soapbox about white porn stars and black porn stars there are much more white porn stars,strippers and call girls. My point remains the same i know black women that sukk dikk and take it in the ass i know white women that do it spanish that do it oriental that do it. i know some white girls that dont black girls that dont etc etc. it's about the person at the end of the day not the color.if u a hoe then ur a hoe period.No color is gonna make u no more nastier then the next bitchh
@heaven, what i was saying about porn and stripping i was commenting to tp. and dont come at me with the racist [EXPLETIVE], everytime a black man talks about race, its about truth and injustice, but dont let a white man, they racist. dont try to fool yourself, you see it in your community everyday, and talk about it everyday, but i am white, so i must be a racist. and white women strip the same reason black women do. lol, whos racist now? cowards hiding behind screen? another stereotype that all white folks are soft? lol, thats one of my favorites actually.
Damn this crazy… me personally I feel like date whoever tha fuk u wanna date… but again its not always thet simple
Lets just get one thing straight tho… -MOST BLACK MEN R DATIN BLACK WOMEN…. MATTER A FACT “MOST RACES DATE WITHIN THEIR ‘OWN’ RACE”
IMO ITS MOSTLY THA SELF-HATIN COONS A.SS “CELEBRITIES” WHO ‘FOLLOW TREND’ OR FEEL LIKE IN ORDER TO KEEP UP OR TO SEEM EQUAL TO INDUSTRY COUNTERPARTS THEY HAVE TO DATE/MARRY SUMBODY THET AINT BLACK/DARKSKINNED TO MAKE THEMSELVES FEEL WELCOME OR THET THEY HAVE UPGRADED IN SUM SILLY A.SS KINDA WAY
IMO…THA DIFFERENCE: BLACK MEN USUALLY DATE THA FAT UGLY SLOPPY WHITE GURL, THA RANDOWN BROKE AINT GOT SH.IT WW, WM REJECT WW, MOST OF THA TIME (NOT ALL) THA WW DON’T BRING SH.IT TO THA TABLE
BLACK WOMEN WHO USUALLY DATE WM GRANTED SUMMA THOSE MUFUKAZ DU B UGLY, BUT… THEY GOT PLENTY MONEY, STATUS, ETC… NOT WW REJECTS BCUZ THOSE THA SAME MEN THA WW WUD B GOIN AFTER… MEN THET BRING “SUMTHIN TO THA TABLE”… NOT JUST ANY OL REGULAR A.SS REJECT WHITE BITCH LIKE SUM OF MY FELLOW DUDES CHASE, DROOL, FLIP N GO ALL GOOGLY EYED OVER..
SO BM I THINK THET “MIGHT” B WHY OUR BLACK QUEENS R HEATED CUZ THEY MIGHT B FEELIN LIKE Y DATE/MARRY A THROW-AWAY CHEAP WW WHO WHEN THA MONEY GONE SHE GONE IF SHE AINT DIVORCIN YO SILLY A.SS TAKIN HALF YA SH.IT WHEN U CAN DATE A BW WHO GON MOST LIKELY “HOLD U DOWN NO MATTER WHAT”
AGAIN I CUD B WRONG … IM JUST SAYIN…
@ Parfait, You must be young to write comments like those. It's amazing how Black women frequently attack a Blackman's manhood every chance they get. What real man wants a woman that he has to "handle"? Who wants those problems? Many Sisters have a attitude problem and keep up drama. Who wants that? It makes a man STRONG to walk away from mess, and find happiness...and peace. How are you going to tell a man to "man up" when you have no idea on what it means to be a Blackman? Sad. Badtwin
I know some black women that say"black men get with white girls because they can cheat on them and get away with anything. Umm last time i checked lorena Bobbit was white last time i check kristen Gomez (the white woman that chopped off her spanish husband dikky for cheating was white. White women say black women have attitudes and are golddigers well last time i checked it was anna nicole marrying a 80 yr old man for money it was these white chicks trying to extort tiger for money. So like i said it's everyyyy color . not a specific color. If u a trifling whore ur a trifling whore
KattDaddy - You are such a flip flop and it's sad. One minute you hate on black women and the next minute you love them. Do you even know what you want? You seem like the type of person who's never pleased. You're nothing but a complainer, sir. You claim you have a black woman, which is hard to believe by the way. She must be a Robot, because you seem way too difficult. I think you have some inner issues going on, personally. Why are you so negative towards black women?
And to all tha silly a.ss ppl talkin bout “GET OVER IT” take yal ol house negro a.sses on sumwhere… I definitely agree thet we shudnt dwell on tha past, but to get over it… how stupid yal sound… so just get over everything our ancestors went thru so we cud live tha lives we live today? Cum on now… BRAINWASHED IGNORANT n.iggaz, tha white mans favorite creation
DUMB A.SSES… “GET OVER WHAT EXACTLY?”… cause tha last time I checked racism iz STILL alive & kickin just look at how many white ppl dissin obama n not bcuz they disagree with him but just cuz he black … how tha fuk do u get over sumthin thets still goin strong TODAY
AND WE DON’T EVEN WANT TO GET ON THA AGENDAS WHITE/MAINSTREAM MEDIA FORCES DOWN OUR FUKN THROATS EVERY FUKN DAY… MAKIN BLACKS LOOK LIKE THA SAVAGES/SCUM OF THA EARTH… WITH ALL THEY TAINTED/FABRICATED STATISTICS N SH.IT THET MAKE BLACK PPL SEEM PURE EVIL…SHAME…
Who cares? They'll most likely regret [EXPLETIVE] with becky. Becky is a scheming little trick. She wants to keep the money close. You don't see them moving into the ghetto with us right. 10 or 20 years from now there will be even more confused bi-racial kids lurking around and no resolution to the racism. Im just happy that my president is black. :D
@EVERYBODY FU.CK THIS BS CUZ IN THE END WE ALL LOOK AT SH.IT FROM A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE WHO R U 2 TELL JILL HOW 2 FEEL??? SAY WHAT U WANT CUZ NOBODY ON GODS GREEN EARTH CAN TELL ME THE WAY I FEEL IS WRONG CUZ U THINK IM WRONG MEANS UR WRONG AND SO ON I PERSONALLY FEEL SUM TYPE OF WAY AND NOT BECUZ I CANT GET A MAN (CUZ I GET EM WITH NO PROBS) ITS BECUZ I DONT WANT MY YOUNGER SIBLINGS GROWING UP IN A WORLD THAT DEVALUES AND VICTIMIZES BLACK WOMEN IF WHITE PPL DO IT ITS NOT REALLY SURPRISING BUT WHEN A BLACK MAN SAYS HE DOESNT DATE PPL WHO RESEMBLE HIM IS DEF UTTER MADINESS!!! SIMPLE MINDS!!!!
It seems to me that the black women is used as a scapegoat all too often. Theres so much displaced anger towards BW and a lot of black men dont realize they have internalized from a young age the black female as being less than another. I fear we will forever play the blame game instead of trying to fix it. The sad part is a lot dont really want to.
emmet, I aint bitter
screw yall mofo’s cuz yall gon get enuff n u must cant handle a strong woman cuz yall retarded a**es runnin 2 white women. Yall want sumbody yall can take advantage of and I hope yall get what yall want and b happy. But lol im happy cuz I can do without any of yall ignorant [EXPLETIVE]. I want somebody I can watch a time to kill with or roots with and they feel the same way I do…..if God wanted all of us to look the same we would of looked the same in the beginning and people tlk about gay marriages and said God made adam and eve not adam and steve well he made them the samcuz eve sho came from adam’s rib so wut does that tell u bro, now if u would excuse me ima go back on with my life, my happy college life cuz wutz even betta than a white woman bsidez a black women? A educated black women! Haha unlike a white women when I turn 60 ima still luk young, they look 60 when they in their 40’s, I have a natural tan, I don’t have to worry about getting botox in the future lol and on top of that everything on me is real, u c a handful of black women get surgery but thatz becuz dey choose to not have to, DUCEZ!
Jill, and other blackwomen this sista here does and has NEVER concerned herself with black men and who they choose to date. There are MEN EVERYWHERE SO WHY FOCUS ON BLACK MEN? Black men are not the only man or the best man in town to date, love and or marry. I so happy with my white husband that I dont have time to care about black men's preferences! JILL GET OVER IT. SISTAS DATE LOVE AND MARRY OUT!
ALL THOSE THAT'S SAYING JILL SCOTT NEEDS TO GET OVER IT AND STOP LIVING IN THE PAST CAN'T BE CONNECTED..YOUR SOUL-LESS AND/OR KNOWINGLY WANT TO BE DRACONS..THEY WILL EAT YOU..THEY USE AND DESTROY..LOOK AT HISTORY AND TELL ME WHO THEY CARE FOR??..NOT EVEN THEIR ONE MOTHER..SHAME ON YOU WEAK GERM NIKKAS..I EXPECT THIS FROM MUTTS AND CRAKKAS..BUT YOU WE ARE THE WORLD NIKKAS IS FINISHED..
I truly understand Jills point of view. BUT I dont have the time or energy to stress myself over who's doin who. All I can do is focus on my own life, relationship with God, and taking care of my family. My daughter is light skinned with red hair. People ask all the time is she mixed and sound so excited and then bummed when I say she's just a black girl. My great great grandfather was an albino, which lightened the skin of my mother's side of the family. Things are so crazy, but there is nothing we can do about it. So why trouble our hearts and minds with it.
The black american group is nothing to get up in arms about protecting and preserving, not when -in my eyes- there is nothing to protect or preserve. Our ancestors were brought over here separated, for generations we have been separated, so it is no wonder we are separated to this day. You can not long for what you've never had. For black women, that would be loyalty from black men. For black men, that would be respect from black women.
In the end, we children of the African Diaspora are nothing more than severed limbs from the main body (Africa) and we cannot survive on our own without being reconnected to the beating heart that is our culture. Look at the U.K., blacks there are dying out because of excessive mixbreeding. It is only a matter of time before that happens in the U.S. And I think it should, the black american group needs to cease to exist. At least then we won't poison the minds of our african brothers and sisters with our lost, broken souls and mentality.
white ppl.. does it strike u when a white man or women date black..HELL YES..if not u then ur parents...if anything I think black families except interracial relationships more then other races...it just the BLACK MEDIA making a big deal of it. only 3percent blacks are married interracialy so stop makin a big deal out that garbage topic....BAMMAZ
read 3rdeyes post and seen a often stated untruth..so ok..i'm gonna say this again..for the 100th time..and it's a fact..and imma shout it out this time..THERE ARE MORE BLACK MEN ATTENDING COLLEGES IN THE USA THAN BLACK WOMEN..BUT..SEE THAT BIG BUT THAT I'M USING AS A CO-ORDINATING CONJUNCTION..BLACK WOMEN GRADUATE COLLEGE AT A 2X GREATER RATE THAN BLACK MEN. please help spread facts. too many wanna spread disinformation to butress their ideals or agendas. i'm all for lisening to opinions even if they are the polar opposite of mine..but use correct facts.
I think it's absolutely comical to say white women are on a pedestal in a Black man's eye.
If some of these Black women would drop the mean mugs in public, they'd get approached more often. Somehow, it has become fashionable to walk around and look mad all the time, or snap at people, or simply don't respond when people say hi, or ask you a question.
Kill that repulsive ish, and I guarantee you your life will change!
hahahaha..i'm laughin at the dude that has the nerve to preach to bw that they need to change so the world will perceive them differently..but then gives himself the moniker kattdaddy..while the world perceives bm as hypersexual..lustful..baby making machines..then this dude says blacks are more racist than whites. is he serious? smmfh. "Consider how hard it is to change yourself and you'll understand what little chance you have in trying to change others."(Jacob M. Braude).
@tiplite2004 - You need to get off your own d!@#. YOU ARE STARTING TO GET ON MY NERVES JUST LIKE DUDE WHOSE ONLY COMMENT WAS "THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY ABOUT THAT". I agree with Jill's comments to a certain extent. What bothers me most is this trend of white women having their lips and asses injected with collagen and implants and model herself to look like a black woman. I know imitation is the biggest form of flattery but damn give me a break!
@BERRYGIRL6 BEAUTY IS IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER. WHEN DID RHIANNA AND BEYONCE BECOME THE STANDARD FOR BEAUTY? RHIANNA IS A PERFECT EXAMPLE THAT YOU CAN BE PRETTY ON THE OUTSIDE AND UGLY ON THE INSIDE. ALFRE WOODARD IS MARRIED TO A WHITE MAN AND SO WAS WHOOPIE GOLDBERG. I THINK MOST WOULD AGREE THEY ARE NOT THE MOST BEAUTIFUL WOMEN BUT THEY EXUDE CONFIDENCE. CHECK YOUR LOGIC.
This is my first post and I have read the gamut of ignorance. Firstly I am an indifferent to interracial relationships, as I understand the various reasons for expanded your dating pool if you feel the need to do so. I see a lot of people saying the black woman should focuss on being educated to attract a good black man. You can be educated, refined, beautful, great cook, and can swing from the pole to the chandlier and it still wont guarantee you a black man working. Souls should burn when the Tiger Woods of the world these women with great women with high professional aspirations.
Elin was a nanny. Kobe Bryant's wife graduated high school. Barry Bonds and Montell Williams ex wives were former exotic dancer's. Slavery is not an easy notion to get over. Even though strides have been made for the race, there are many issues that have not been fully reconciled. We are the only wronged people yet to receive reparations. I am not waiting with baited breath for ninety acres, a mule or a Times Square billboard apology. Granted we have to move on from slavery it is the getting over it that will take some time. I really don't care if black men prefer to date outside of their
I think Jill is entitled to her own opinion and I also respect her for staying true to who she is. However, personally, and maybe it's because I was raised in a multi-cultural household, I don't hold the same sentiment. Here is why. In addition to being raised in a multi-ethnic household, and raised to be an independent thinker, I've never held one race or another at a higher standard than the next. I believe that as black people, we should explore options and not conform to what others want or expect us to do. Just because I'm black, noone should "expect" for me to be with a black person.
the reasonings for doing so sometimes draw my ire. Ie. Black women are so demanding. Black women are demanding and they want you to be accountable for your actions. Your economic standard does not exempt you from this fact. You can work for the post office or be a CEO of your own company. The funny thing is most of these celebrities never even dated outside their race until they hit a different financial bracket. All I can say to black men if you are going to marry interracially, marry up. At least find your financial equal. To my black women, I know it easier said than done, but dont take it
personally, if you see a man that is with someone of a different race, you dont his story. Besides every black man is not for every black woman and vice versa. You may have been spared. At the end of the day love should be colorless. However there is nothing like the love of a majestic black man. Simply that is what Ms. Scott was trying to convey in her essay.
The problem with most of the negative comments regarding Jill's essay is that you assume she is 'bitter' for 'insecure'...that isn't the case...She simply pointed out that it is a odd thing to witness someone from a race who was and still is treated so poorly choose to then partner with their oppressor. Racism is alive and well in this country. A congressman was just spit on for being black. Here in Illinois there is a home owner with a giant noose on his house to prevent a black family from buying the house next door. Our historical relatonship with whites has been vile.
To chooose a white to love considering our historical relationshhip with them is indeed an odd thing to some blacks. I personally have never had a problem dating in my race and have only considered black men as partners...I'm married to one we are building a lovely life together. I know many black on blak couples and that's who we surround ourselve and children with. I personally don't care about the black men who leave the race/community. The seem to be 'lost' on so many levels as far as racial pride and loyalty that they would be a throw back (small fish) for me personally.
Black men have always been an embarrassment 4 our race. From the many street thugs & wanna be gangstas 2 the rich guys who hates themselves so much the only way 4 him 2 feel completely successful is 2 top it with a woman of any color but black. The sad part about this is, everybody knows how insecure black men r its obv. & doing this just makes them look even more ignorant. It's almost like agreeing with all the negative things thats said about blacks. & thanks 2 them in recent days we as black women r being looked at as the most unattractive women. Black men r so stupid, I can't even date 1.
Black men have always been an embarrassment 4 our race. From the many street thugs & wanna be gangstas 2 the rich guys who hate themselves so much the only way 4 him 2 feel completely successful is 2 top it with a woman of any color but black. The sad part about this is, everybody knows how insecure black men r its obv. & doing this just makes them look even more ignorant. It's almost like agreeing with all the negative things thats said about blacks. & thanks 2 them in recent days we as black women r being looked at as the most unattractive women. Black men r so stupid, I wont even date 1.
Also..there has been much said today about black men leaving the race/community to marry any woman who does not look like their own mothers...but did you know that this problem is more prevelant with Asians....Asian men are finding it difficult to marry their own women because white men are taking them. The percentages are larger than what we're witnessing in AA community..but I don't see 20/20 doing specials on this little tid bit.
I too felt this way without recognizing why i am so offended each time i see a black men/white female until I read this book by Rajen Persaud "why black men love white women" and this book explains more in depth the reason why this is so hurtful for black women.
I agree people of different races can find true love but the way blacks in the spotlight covet white women like trophies is soooo questionable like ' LOOK I HAVE A WHITE WOMEN, I'M SUCCESSFUL AND HAVE CROSSED OVER...More likely then not the white women is very ordinary. WHY NOT A SISTA THAT IS SUCCESFUL AND IN YOUR LEAGUE BROTHAS?
I LIVE ON THE WEST COAST AND THIS IS AN EVERY DAY OCCURRENCE ..HOW DO I DEAL WITH IT. I IGNORE THEM.THESE PPL DON'T EXIST TO ME.MY SELF HATING BROTHER WENT OUT OF HIS WAY TO IMPREGNATE 2 OF THESE BEAST.BITTER ? NOT I. MARRIED OVER 20YRS 4 CHILDREN 1 IN POST GRAD SCHOOL 1 JUST GRADUATED.I WONT ASSOCIATE OUT MY CIRCLE.WE HAVE NOTHING IN COMMON WITH OTHER UNMELINATED PPL IM 100% SURE. MY VITALS ARE STABLE GOOD HEALTH AND I HAVE NO WORRIES YOU PPL CONSCIOUS ENOUGH AGREE WITH ME...HOTEP
I can't believe people still in here arguing. Listen people who have a problem with interracial dating/married are either IGNORANT or JEALOUS! Jill would be jealous! Not one black woman thinks back to slavery when they see a bm with a ww! The first thing they think is why can't he be with me! She had a black man and his gay ass still ain't marry her! Why? Its not about race its about who you are as a person and what works. Love knows no color! Love is love! The only time you should be mad is when people exclusively date outside their race like Reggie Bush.
This is a very true statement. I thank Jill for bringing this topic up. You have to bring it up every once in a while because many will forget. Someone told me once its funny how most all nationalities date their own chinese, italians, indians,iranians etc. You might see them date out side of their race every now and then but for the most part they stick with someone of the same background. But black men are the only men willing to date anything and everyone. They no longer take any pride in who they are. They want to continue to water down the genes.
Hi, when I read this posting I knew I had to comment. First, Jill Scott does not speak for me, I love her as an artist but her view on dating and any other issue I may not agree with it. Well this is one of them. Second, why did she write this essay in the first place?
What she said about OUR history is true. But where she lost me was the "sting" part of her essay. She comments on why "intelligent, successful black men date outside their race, well the answer is not only because of magazines, but because of the mother. Boys, and society, see how much black women hate each other. contd
Look how black women destroyed Robin Givens when she spoke of her abuse from Mike Tyson. Then look at how many black women tore down Rihanna, and was happy to do it in front of white people, when she reported Chris Brown for abuse. Buys pick that up and they put it in their minds as "mommy doesn't like herself". It was a trial and tribulation to get a black son from his black mother when it came time to wed. All these things produce discontentment within the race. con't
It is not just white people doing this to us, it is ourselves. I see how angry black women look at one another, and is ready to scar herself physically just because she hates herself. If you want to talk about "look at our past and accept our past" then we need to look at all of our past, including the self hate. To me it is not an issue, because for the black women/men who are choosing to meet new people regardless of race their lives are enriched. When black men wanted to marry black women, I remember hearing some (some) of my girlfriends say "I don't want to marry right now" cont'd
Or they would say "marriage is not for me", well now that black men are marrying other races of sistahs are angry, why?? You choose your life's next step. I mean Jill Scott is talking but is she married to this man. Who wants to have children out of wedlock, that WASN"T our history. We were joined as man and wife to raise our children, not just have a male in the house. Everyone can "co-sign" to her essay, but look at the facts, no matter "if it hurts or not". Now that I can deal with.
I meant to say other races of women, sistahs are angry, why?
But anyway, there isn't a plight for black women, let's just say black women would rather be by themselves than to be in life, and do life correctly. I don't want to put this all on our shoulders to bear, but the love of a black woman by a black man starts at home. To me, imo, love is love. I hear what Ezra is saying and it is true but we have to look at how we got to this and it isn't just by white people. cont'd
Look at Jennifer Hudson, when will Punk, I don't know his real name, marry her or are they going to just have babies together. On the other post everyone was applauding Erykah Badu for doing what white people said of black women back in the day, over sexual, depraved, and whorish. Why do we need to go that route. We didn't do that back then and we shouldn't start now. You can't call a white women "easy" if you are going to do the same things society is doing, it is nonsense. I'm done because I could go on forever about this topic. I want to live the life G-d gave me to praise HIM.
I am married to a 6'4 handsome black man, and it does occur when I'm hanging out with his co workers wives their wives are always white, I don't understand it. Black women just need to relax, know how to be a cheerleader for her man, and stop trying to be so bossy. Let a man be a man. Than maybe men wouldn't be so scared of yall and marry another race which is whats going on now. black women are baby mammas, while other race are marriage material. Sucks for yall!
Take that.... Taye Diggs!
Seriously, I see what she's saying and have heard many Black men stating if they become wealthy they'll end up with a White woman. Almost like saying since they're living the life with a huge mansion, exotic cars, and a gigantic bank account than you gotta have the ultimate woman to match your lavish lifestyle. Because white women are "totally like" a step-up from Black women.
My opinion: Some nigas need to get their mind right. Though, I understand the desire to get away from the weaves, wigs, and the "baby momma" hood rats
@T007009 I see what your trying to say but I just had to interject that black women arent the only catty ones. Women of all races, white women included can be extremely two faced and vindictive. Please dont generalize. Also did you see how Jessica Simpson and others were viciously attacked by their own for gaining a few pounds?
Some black women HAVE crossed over and arent sitting around bitter and so have most men. Some are really in love. Some may just want a white person. Some not. But letd not pretend every black mans just so heartbroken from black women he ran. And lets not pretend he cant be in love either. Theres no rule.
Some men just like silky blonde hair it could be that simple. Some may just have a preference. Im sick of people saying black men this black women this..blaming each other. The black women I know with white men just LIKED white men and how they looked and same with the men. Theres not always a damn story behind it!
G0D DAMN!!! MTO'S FAVORITE HONKEY IS GONE FOR 1 DAY AND JILL SCOTT HAS GOT EVERYONE HERE READY TO KILL A CKR@CHA!!!
JILL SCOTT!!! CRAZY D IS ASKING YOU OUT ON A DATE!!!
AND IF YOU SAY NO!!! YOU ARE A RACIST!!!!
YEAH!!! 2 CAN PLAY THE RACE CARD!!!
YOU MAY NOT BE DOWN THE SWIRL NOW, BUT AFTER ME YOU WILL BE!!!!!!!
I love you Jill but speak for yourself. Seems like only single black women go on these rants.
I'm a very opinionated, outspoken, loud, and a little bossy black woman and never had issues with getting any man I wanted.
Most women in general need to stop thinking they need to compromise themselves to please a man.
Maybe that white woman didn't have insecurity issues like a lot of women tend to have.
A couple of years ago a college student repeated Dr. Clark's white doll/black doll experiment and got similar results. The documented self image and loathing issues that prompted Brown Vs. The board of Education are still very much in place. Collectively Africans under Western influence can not say they have an understanding of Love especially if they engage in relationships that diminish their community. There's no where else in the universe where "Black" men are needed and there's no excuse (IR-relationships with "Blacks" rarely are about Love-a divine principle)for their absence
Contd. Let's(people of African descent in the West) be honest we date out because of a conditioned distaste for ourselves and how we are perceived. And we are willing to emasculate ourselves, negate the sacrifice of our foremothers/fathers, and destabilize our people to do it. Jill statements where introspective and should not have generated the obvious tension that some "Black" males have displayed...unless of course they suspect they're wrong. Being a man like being a woman is a statement of character and Love is a divine principle. Both are lacking when you ignore or willfully negate
THIS WOMEN DID NOT SAY ANYTHING REMOTELY BAD ABOUT BLACK MEN WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH SOME OF YOU MEN.TALKING ALL THAT [EXPLETIVE]THIS IS A BEAUITIFUL SUCESSFUL WOMEN WHO SIMPLELY SAID THAT IT HURTS HER SOMETIMES TO SEE BLACK MEN WITH WHITE WOMEN AND I TOTALLY AGREE.GOD SOMETIMES I SWEAR TO GOD AND I HATE TO SAY THIS BUT SOMETIMES IM HATE SOME OF YOU BLACK MEN.SOME OF YOU ARE THE BIGGEST DISSIPOINTMENTS.SOMETIMES I HATE BLACK MEN.
Shyt, the way i look at it is everytime i stick my dyck in a white women puss i gettin back at the damn slave owners. Cause ain't nuthin worse to a prejudice kracka then finding out his daughter or wife have been laying up with a black man. So, to all my homies, f.uck as many white women as you can. And do the black community proud! {side note- stop saying african american. Ain't [EXPLETIVE] african about you!}
@clovahjones,
You can call yourself whatever you want to. Reading your comment and and taking into account your "rationale" I'm not expecting you to provide anything of value but I am an African as my children will be as their ancestors were before they built the pyramids and parented every group of people on this planet. If you have nothing constructive to say that's you but don't pretend you make sense.
"Kind of scary makes me wonder what type of people I'm rubbing shoulders with at the grocery store, mall, and at the Gym"
Keep in mind those same people are the judges, realtors, banking agents, teachers, CEO's, police officers, teachers....etc. I feel the same way around the aforementioned people listed. Not to the point of being afraid, but understanding that although these individuals have titles,it means nothing if they don't do right by me or the law. What's even worse is if I chose to do nothing to counteract it's social oppression.
Setting aside the ridiculous "I'm fat and insecure" essay...
Some people keep bringing up history.
I think you need a history lesson. In 1860 the US population was 14% black. In 1968 the US population was 11% black. It's pretty obvious for anyone with eyeballs to see that if WHITE people didn't want slavery or segregation to end, it wouldn't have...PLAIN AND SIMPLE. So enough with the 'We came through it isolated and together so we need to stay isolated and together' argument...it's nonsense. *Here's a good one: Name a country where blacks have it better than in the US. You can't.
...and that wasn't her 'soul' burning, that was heart-burn from her acid reflux due to obesity.
The fact is I have never seen a smart, fine black woman have any trouble getting or keeping any kind of man.
You bitter big ones are over-thinking it.
Less angry internet posting, more gym time...
And no, you're not "curvy" or "thick" or "healthy"...when you're fat you're fat. Get your looks on point, then see about a dude.
@IllWilltheMan,
Not sure what point you trying to make or if you just jumped to take the issue out of context and insult Jill. Bottomline, the issue is is about men being men. The comments about her weight are an effeminate deflection. Emasculation comes in many forms, this is just the most popular one presently.
Bottom line, this is black women's fault that we brotha IR date, period ! How come no other races of men are dating outside of their race like brothas are ???
Because sistas are the one that have the stereotype of being loud, mean, and difficult, period. Now, what are you sistas gonna do to reform your image in society ??? Not a damn thing cuz yall will come on here and get all defensive and talk bullshyte about why this occurs instead of taking responsibility of how society views you.
Thats why half the sistas in Los Angeles is goin gay !
@AllnAll This is pitiful that there ppl still exist who think the way you do. This will be quite ez put'n u n ur place. U speak of "ancestors" and pyramids. You could still find that type of generation in "Africa". Not America. They beat that out of those ppl and force them to look at life a whole 'nother way. So we dont deserve the name "African" anything. We're considered "sell outs" the blk ppl thats born in america. Thus, the term "blk-american" exist.
@Kattdaddy2,
If one professes that are a man then nothing that person does could possibly be someone else's fault. The stereotype you refer to is just that, a stereotype. It's opinion based and can't be proven one way or another. Any society that's attempted to destroy you may view negatively so that's not the issue. Of course one could bring up and prove all of the horrible realities concerning "Black" males so why would you go there?
@Kattdaddy2, contd.
"Black" women are documented to be the more stable component in the community so all complaints about attitude (which can't be proven) throws the ball back in the hands of "Black" men, the question becomes why are you complaining about women issues (like women do) instead of handling business. No other men on the planet would complain about attitudes of women least they acknowledge that they (said men) have no other socially significant value i.e. being effeminate.
Do we need to go into why "Black" men are going gay?
@clovahjones,
Please prove everything that you've just said, especially the comments about me and my "place". If it is your belife, that you and your ancestors were beaten (and raped-sodomised) into a submission so complete that the suggestion that other Africans in America could be anything other than compromised provokes an emotional response...I wouldn't argue with you O_o. However, be clear, people who do not support their own conquest do dare to exist. So if you believe that Europeans who are recessive are more powerful than genetics it's self, then that very well may be true for you and yours. For anyone else, the burden of proof falls squarely on your shoulders sir. Your comment appears to be alot of bravado that proves nothing at all.
The point im trying to make is this. Jill complains about seeing a decent brotha with a white girl and she feel personally hurt. Jill needs some self-esteem. If she was secure with herself and felt good about herself, this would not affect her.
Now, who a brotha dates is his business. Black women don't own black men, so sistas may think this, but it's not true. The problem I see, is that yall sit around and wonder why brothas date outside their race on such a large scale. I will give you one reason that most of them will say. Is that sistas are loud, mean, and have a damn attitude all the damn time. Now, im not generalizing, because it's a true stereotype that fits some, but not all black women, but still way too many sistas fit this description. Maybe not you, but way too many of your homegirls. It creates this negative perception of black women, so now everybody thinks that this is how most black women are. So now some nice kind-hearted white girl comes along, with no attitude issues and she wants nothing but a cool half-decent brotha to love her and give her the mandingo. Of course a great number of us are gonna choose her over what we perceive is a hard to deal with sista.
When i say i believe it's black womens fault, I mean that in my mind, black women as a whole are not doing enough to change the common perceptions about them in society. When i see a sista act a fool in public, it re-enforces these stereotypes about sistas. Sistas need to start acting less like this as a whole so people won't think that all of yall are angry black women.
This is also about black racism and ignorance. It is racist to be against interracial dating, period ! People are allowed to feel about it how they want, but understand, to be against this makes u a racist. If a white parent told your son or daughter they couldn’t date their kid because of their skin color, you nyggas would be in here calling that person a racist for sure !
@ AllinAll
In my opinion, it's black womens fault that they as a whole have these negative perception about them, and they ain't doin nothing as a whole to change these perceptions. It aint no damn secret that most people believe that sistas have attitude. This is a common perception. We black males have negative perceptions also, but we talkin about yall right now. Again, why deal with yall difficult @sses when we can get a white/spanish/asian chick without an attitude issue.
@allinall,
My point about her being a huge ugly woman is that those are the ones that always tend to feel the "sting."
She clearly has issues with herself, being dissed by the black men in her own life. So it's easier for her to point the finger at IR dating than to look in the mirror...
The point about the stats I posted is that some people here wanted to take this opportunity to demonize ALL whites (the few that claim to know stuff others don't). Yet, without brave whites fighting along side brave blacks, slavery and/or segregation would still exist to this day. So it's not that simple.
@kattdaddy2. Touche homie, well put. You know whats funny tho. Just from her recent responses to shyt, she'll find a way to not understand what ur talkin about. No, relationship is suppose to be difficult nor stressful, complicated or any of that. And mainly alot of that comes along when dealing with a blk women. A n.igga will spend more time arguing with her throughout the relationship than anything. Why deal with a headache when you dont have 2.
I am a black man married to a white woman but believe me when I say that I would leave her for Jill Scott and she knows this lol. But on the real its not up to me or anyone else to agree or disagree with her. I will say tho that I appreciate the articuate nature in which she wrote her essay and refrained from using terms like "Becky" "Snobunni" "Pink toes" and all those other bullshyt terms. I am well versed in the history of blacks and whites in the country and now so is my wife. I love to see IR couples because when you see a white person dating a black person chances are that white person
cont.... isnt a racist. And the less racist ass white people we have in this country the better. But I will say that I am embarrassed as a black man when I see another brother with a BUSTED ass trailer park white chick. My wife and I have heard so many times that we dont look like the sterotypical IR couple which sad to say is usually a brother from the projects and a white girl from the trailer park. ESPECIALLY in the south.
@ clovah
Man, you feel me ? And I hear you on that african american shyte too. Aint near one of these nyggas been to africa, but wanna be called african american, when everybody knows the africans don't accept our @sses as one of their own ??? F@#k that, I'm black, period, from the United States. This is where i was born and this is where ima die at !
@kattdaddy2,
*Sigh* We really have to learn the difference between subjective and objective stances. Which do you think is more impactful, rising HIV infection due to male infidelity (w/men and women) consistent imprisonment / homicide rates, absentee fathers, abusive / incestuous fathers…all of which is unfortunately documented -OR-the belief that “Black” women in a country a third the size of Africa have attitudes with the men that may or may not fit the afore mentioned profile? Again, it’s perception based. Fault does not lie in prospection sir, but in reality, and reality says the exact opposite of your belief, the burden of proof is on you now. The men I know don’t have these problems because their mere presence commands respect. In terms of ownership, that’s not the issue and it never was. Being a man like being a woman is a statement of character not physical maturity. No man is going to leave his community in a shambles to pursue a member of the people who are historically responsible for said catastrophe.
@kattdaddy2, contd.
Furthermore, Jill’s essay was written for a “Black” women’s magazine, the tone was not mean-spirited and was appropriate especially as she is now a mother. Your belief that “Black” women concerned with their community and it’s future, are bitter, hateful, etc. is just as subjective and unsubstantiated as the belief that “most” “Black “ women have an attitude, it too can not be proven and is opinion based. As we are talking about the well-being of a people/community personal opinions are irrelevant.
@kattdaddy2, contd.
Wouldn’t it be wiser to work on real issues in the “Black” community (the issues which very well may justify rumored attitudes) instead blaming the women who you’re supposed to be leading. Unless, of course you don’t see yourselves (“Black” males) as leaders or there’s another issue at play… the belief in “White” superiority.
PS- If what you’re saying about finding better with “Becky” were true than why are the divorce rates for IR relationship so high?
IllWilltheMan,
That's your opinion, even if folks have an issue with Jill's weight (which reflects her status as an American) few call her ugly. Can you prove what you're saying...no. So why being that you're an adult male would you say it? "Black" women who are concerned with their community and people are concerned when their community and people engage in self-negating activity. You can't prove that their all ugly and fat and that wouldn' invalidate the issue even if you could. This is beneath any adult. This has nothing to do with "Whites", it's an internal issue and a reflection of conquest.
@clovahjones, You've dated all the "Black" women in America,right? Or could it be that your experience is limited and may be reflective of you. I'ma do something out of character for me and share something personal. When I realized that the only thing all my bad experiences and relationships had in common was me, I changed me and that change opened the way for my fiance'. Let's not pretend that "Black" men who aren't dating/marrying "Black" women are gone cause they've been abused. You prefer "White" women because of have you've been trained to perceive them...feel free to prove otherwise
allinall,
Okay. If you want the psychoanalytical analysis.
Jill is "burnt" because her Father abandoned her as a child. So it is ingrained in her that black men will abandon her. So when she has a bad break up, all those inner feelings of inferiority come back.
When she sees a brotha with a white girl, she confuses that also for being abandoned by yet another black man.
It's a personal issue. An insecurity.
It's also selfish.
Could also be a contributing factor to the fact that she has weight issues.
She should talk to a psychiatrist before lecturing to black men about who to date.
@AllnAll. Abused? By who? Blk women? Alright, i'll let u n on something. I've been around every aspect of blk women there is. I know which r conservative, ghetto, and too unstable to mention. Like any man in this country i just simply want 2 b happy with my significant other, no matter the complexion or race. This conversation should've been over mainly because u we should've been mature enough to agree to disagree already. Its quite obvious we're not gonna come to any common ground about this. Good luck to ur fiance.
Hollywood,
"talking aggresive border line rude improper english and wonder why they don't get the job. show up at court with jeans n sneakers and a tee shirt and wonder why the judge just gives them a quick sentencing. I have never left a job interview feeling like "i didn't get it because i was black" now granted maybe i didn't. however I never left the interview or used that as a excuse"the white man is holding me down" you hold urself down and u hold urself up. PERIOD"
That's real. Time to let go of the excuses.
@clovahjones, "been around every aspect of blk women there is" "been around every aspect of blk women there is" Ok, but who are you, who have you been? You went from wanting to screw "White" women out of revenge to " just simply want 2 b happy with my significant other, no matter the complexion or race". You haven't proven anything you said and to close out your interaction with me you attempted a passive-aggressive insult "Good luck to ur fiance"
You wanna know why your relationships with "Black" women haven't worked out, the same reason your relationships with no other woman will probably work out...you. If you're sincere, change you.
@IllWilltheMan,
"If you want the psychoanalytical analysis" No, you're not qualified to psychoanalysis her and that won't change the fact that you can't substantiate your statements, your still deflecting.
"It's also selfish" A whole community is destabilized making those brothers who have something to offer, but choose not too, just as much as a liability as say a drug dealer or a down-low brother as the impact is the same. What could be more selfish than negating a whole community that needs you. Love is a divine principle as such it's presence would never leave a vacuum...now that's selfish and you're being disingenuous.
Well people can think what they want to, but I think she's saying what a lot of black women who love black men are thinking. I actually did a research paper on successful single black men. It covered atlanta, philly, and new york. But trust me when I say that white women can have these arrogant mean sob's. I'm just sayin. I love Black men and want a successful one but I'll take mr. Ups driver any day of the week.
@AllnAll. This is one of those cases when i could say, "you don't know shyt about me". I could ask u to prove to me "my life story" since for some odd reason u think to know more about me than i do. At the beginning of making those comments, it was all about shyt and giggles. Cause the whole concept of this subject is beyond stupid. But being that "self-rightous" black women with a stick up her ass couldn't take a simple joke. U felt it was ur duty to get on here and start preaching to ppl about their opinion on the essay. All because u disagree with what they have to say. I believe in my opin
clovahjones,
I have never professed to know you. You stated your "trouble" with "Black" women, not I. My response was the logical conclusion to what you presented and unlike your comment about my finace', it wasn't an attempted slight nor ill intentioned...was it? The only thing all those women have in common is you, you're the common denominator, that's logic.
@clovahjones, contd. "subject is beyond stupid"
You've been asked at least twice to shine the light of intelligence, firstly by substantiating your accusations, you haven't, which seems more stupid?
"But being that "self-righteous" black women with a stick up her ass couldn't take a simple joke." This again is perception based, you can't prove that I'm self righteous nor can you prove I think so. Why do you resort to pettiness (effeminate behavior) whenever you can't prove a point or can't produce a logical response? Why, the Freudian sodomy references? O_o
@clovahjones, contd.
"I believe in my opinion, u r one of those obnoxious" ...and this is why I asked you from the beginning to substantiate your statements. Opinions are subjective and your opinion is as baseless as else you've said. Take a look at both of our comments, You-the man have been emotional, rude, irrational, foul mouthed and "opinionated" where I-the woman, have not. Who truly fits the definition of obnoxious here?
@clovahjones, contd.
"The very empidamy of woman alot of blk men cant stand" No man is bothered by that which he considers irrelevant, perhaps your perception of Manhood/Womanhood/Adulthood needs to be addressed, after all I respected you as what you presented yourself as, and haven't been rude, false or "loud" yet...have I? Have you? "U said u have changed yourself? I believe u have alot more work to do, in my OPINION"
And you very well may be right, life is a continuous quest for self mastery, I accept the challenge, thanks for your concern.
@the_realist,
Real talk about the UPS brotha! Some sistah's have different views on money and status but I know what wealth is. I have no problem catering to my man because I know what he is and what he's not and I will never "disinherit" my children from what my foremothers/forefathers gifted me! This is coming from a sistah who "stepped out" in her youth.
Do we really need to be telling Jill how she should feel? Why are Black men trying to censor a Black woman for her opinions? I always knew they were trying to change places with white men, but these posts just confirm it.
Why is Jill a racist for being hurt by the fact that most of American society views Black women as second best/used goods/mules/just plain not good enough, and having Black men co-sign that opinion makes her feel a kind of way. How is her view a racist one? Really? Are we that simple minded or do we just refuse to get it??
I'm gonna bottom line it for EVERYBODY.
When Jill sees a fine, successful black man with a white woman...she's not thinking about Slavery, she's thinking "Damn, yet another dude who don't want me."
Don't try to outsource your lack of positive self-image to make it a race thing.
Hop on a treadmill boo...you'll start feeling better.
...and Ezra,
Get your head out that propaganda for a minute and get yourself cleaned up a bit. Maybe get your hair did. (Your melanin talk is nonsense. Blacks get Rickets from being the color they are...does that make them inferior? No. You're talking nonsense).
@IllWilltheMan,
You're in no position to BOTTOMLINE it for everybody, unless you have the unique perspective of a "Black" or more importantly you're Jill Scott. Your persistence doesn't change the fact that your comments are not fact based and more colored by your personal feeling about Jill Scott's appearance or the appearance of "Black" women in general.
You haven't presented anything objective...Bottomline.
@ ALLINALL
Who are you to tell that person they can't bottom line it ?
Im gonna bottom line it ! Bottom line, this is a personal self-esteem issue that Jill needs to confront. She needs therapy so she can feel better about herself. For her to feel personally slighted by seeing a white women with a sucessful black man is clearly a prejudiced way of thinking.
Which one of you is gonna stand up and tell Barack Obama that his mama had no business dating his daddy, and no business having her child ???
If black men were not desired because of the stigma of slavery and media he would not be so quick to oppose what Jill is saying. It's not them so who gives a f*ck right.
I been over it, I could careless what black men successful or not choose to do with themselves, it's betrayal but I don't let that feed my soul, let that stop me from creating a great life for myself.
Black men will damn near be extinct in the next 50 to 100 years and they won't have anyone to blame but themselves.
Sell out MF's and yes I said it and I don't care what anyone thinks.
I see white women falling as we speak, getting fat, getting belittled in public, getting dogged out, getting played and used and abused by black men...THEY ARE FALLING as we speak, they are not going to reign supreme forever, what comes up must come down....black women will be one of the most desired species on the planet and sistah's remember who turned they back on you when we weren't the IN thing.
I understand that there are still many racist people around the world; however, responding with the same racist views benefits nobody. There are so many stereotypes about white and black people on here that I can’t take many arguments on here seriously. There are bad seeds in every race because we are all human. A wise person would realize that not every person in a particular race is the same, and holding a whole race accountable for the bad actions of some people is not reasonable. Yes, it’s important not to forget the past because a major point in teaching history is to learn from the past and not to repeat the mistakes. I believe all races are equal and I don’t hold any race higher than the others. I’m in an interracial marriage and my husband and I have a child together. We are both happy and nobody can break our bond or love for each other. I am actually the first non black female that my husband has been with, and I have never discriminated against dating any particular race. We married for no reason other than love. It wouldn’t bother me at all if I saw a white man with a black woman. If you are happy and confident with yourself, you are not going to care who somebody else is dating. If you have such strong hatred towards interracial dating then you are likely either ignorant or have low self esteem. You can have a preference of who you want to date but don’t discriminate others who choose differently from you. My husband and I are both very attractive and could easily snag someone from our own race; however, skin color doesn’t matter to me. Love is blind and I am living proof of it.
Those of you who are saying love is love are not seeing the bigger picture here. Since there are so many black men that refuse to date within their race, it leaves black women with little options. Many black men refuse to date black women because they think they are "too ghetto", and it is not true. And if you're lucky and they do date black women, they only date light-skinned girls.
Ok so because I am dating a white man, oh and by the way i am a black women, is that any different? Does it make her "wince" if she see's me, and trust me I could care less? I will respect her as an artist, but she sounded like an idiot saying these things. When will we grow the [EXPLETIVE] UP!! I hate racism, prejudice, and close minded people of any kind? And she has proved that to me, what happened in the past is what it is the past...we will never grow or accept others as one race as long as [EXPLETIVE] like this continues...ya'll call it speaking her mind, but if it was Lady Gaga, Britney Spears or any other white actor/actress or singer plain and simple you WOULD be calling them racist not just speaking her mind...BELIEVE THAT
Some of your are reading into words that are not present in Jill's essay. She NEVER SAID SHE HATED white women, NEVER said you should NOT fall in love with someone outside your race, she NEVER said she is teaching her children to be racist. The moral of the story is: It HURTS. AND many Black women share in this sentiment. And sharing that vulnerability is NOT shameful or racist. Its brave and it leads to growth. So some of you "all is right in the world" [EXPLETIVE] should back off and stop trying to crucify the woman. Just b/c something is unsettling that does not make it hateful.
