: MediaTakeOut.com has learned that actress Kim Fields (star of The Facts Of Life and Living Single) has just married her longtime boyfriend and the father of her child - Broadway dancer/actor Christopher Morgan.
You'll recall that last year MediaTakeOut.com reported that one of Christoper's former co-workers questioned whether Morgan was heterosexual (see story here).
Coincidentally - or maybe not so coincidentally, the wedding was officiated by former gospel singer Donnie McClurkin. Pastor McClurkin's ministry specializes in counseling men that homosexuality can be "overcome" through Bible study and intense prayer. While the Pastor has admitted to engaging in homosexual acts, he now claims to be "healed" and is currently living a celibate lifestyle.
Kim, here's some words of advice. If you know what's good for you, you'll keep your husband away from Pastor McClurkin!!!!
OOOOOOOOOO' ya'll are going to hell MTO. Didn't D. MC say, he changed his ways and was no longer doing the *** thing. He had got married. I think unless (which I know he was) you were molested, once you get dyck in the booty, your arse is gonna always want a dyck in the booty if it was by your choice. Hell, you may even want it still if you were forced. Just my opinion. Sorry Kim, but what is it with you celebrity women marrying this ***??? Cause honey, if he ain't like the dyck and *** goodies???? myspace.com/sweetjustice910
Ya'll are wrong as hell for this one...If a man wants to leave that lifestyle alone, I for one feel that they should be supported, not talked about. YOU could be the deciding factor in a 'struggling' *** man's life, the one to push that person totally one way or the other...That's why so many of our black men are depressed...This is SO WRONG....
MTO is real messed up for this one. God can change anybody. God changed Donnie. If you know his story you know that he was molested as a child and didn't know what was right so he thought that nothing was wrong with his lifestyle. It wasn't until he found God, that he was changed. The writer of this story is just plain wrong.
Good Morning SBW, SCARLETT, ReeRee.
Here's my opnion, first off i love donnie but i can't understand how someone who's *** can change their ways. i have a few *** male friends and i also work with a few *** men and all of them have said they know very early that they r different. Some have been married(beautiful wives) had kids and u so unhappy and eventually will stray. No one is gonna b 50 and realize their *** or been having *** relations and decide their gonna change. Donnie, i think its best u stay true to urself and b the person u wanna b. People still loved u even when u came out, ur gonna make everyone suffer at the end cuz u r not being u.
Oh yeah, he's a brownbagger. He still has protein on his lips in that second photo. Kim's gotta know but some women just don't care. I wish them the best especially if they're both going in with eyes wide open. I have a girlfriend whose husband sleeps with men and she don't care as long as it's with his steady boyfriend.
As for Donnie McClurkin. I remember him from back in the day when he was queening out here. His legs were open wider than the Holland Tunnel. His nickname was D!ck Eraser cause he made them dissappear so fast. Now he want to play straight. Or at least like he don't have *** with men. He ain't having *** with women. And guess what? That still makes you *** Donnie!!!
How can a real woman even allow herself to be attracted to a man that looks so *** ***. I understand that love doesn't have a face, but he looks to fruity to me. I know she wasn't that *** desparate for a man, cuz if Man-eka can get Usher, I know *** well she could've gotten some body wayyyyyyy better
Donnie McCLurkin is a fraud..you cant turn straight..it doesnt work that way..can any of you straight people turn yourselves ***? nope..our sexual orientation comes naturally, you cant force it..people want to talk about the Catholic church and all of the *** going on there with the priests..but what about *** like McClurkin? hes just as dangerous because hes claiming he changed and people are trusting him..giving their hard earned money to his fake *** ministry..hes gonna go straight to hell, not for being ***, but for using the church as a way to milk people of their money so he can buy fancy houses and cars..misleading those who seek guidance from him..Kim Fields knows her husband is *** or at least bi-sexual, but her sexuality has always been questioned..some people just have relationships built on an "understanding"..theyre probably good friends that wanted to have a family and raise a baby in a traditional way, despite their orientation..was Kims husband someone that McClurkin "cured" of his ***? yeah I want to know how his converts are doin
@yroseb.. Why do have to watch what we say? In my opinion, being *** is not wrong or blasphemous. It just is. If Donnie is both a *** man and a man of God that should be proof that He made us all the way He intended us to be. Now religous fanatics please don't eat my head off for this comment okay, it's just my opinion.
I personally think the dude is *** and she knows it. I think Kim Fields is a big *** hag, wants a baby and her husband in question, just happens to really be a best friend who she was attracted to at some point in time until she found out he gargled semen after packing the fudge. They have an agreement with eachother and are playin MTO and everyone else, while receiving benefits of the married life and dating other ppl.
que pasa Picasso20!! I agree Kim Fields is a *** hag..shes made no secret of her being very involved in the *** community..and lets face it, shes cute but she didnt have men banging her door down for a date..remember that show "Star Dates"? they would hook celebrities up on dates with regular people..she said she hadnt had a boyfriend or a date in a long time because shes always getting losers approaching her..and just because someone didnt seem *** in high school doesnt mean anything..I know dudes that were on the basketball and baseball teams in my high school and I see them 12 years later flaming hotter than a fire
Gigi!
Definately, not only that, but I've seen "thugs" who had madd girls, approach me and shid askin for a dl hookup. Nicca get tha fugg outta here i think, i dont say nuthin tho, becus i didnt wanna get my azz beat, i just calmly walked off and *** a birdy once i was close enuff to my car.
and highschool? No one's real in highschool for the most part. People get off da chain once they get away from home and in college.
@Picasso, thats true, no one is their real selves in high school because you have to play along with what everyone else is doing to fit in..and just because they come home to VA to visit, doesnt mean anything..theyre married now and theyre going to behave as a couple..hes not going to be "queening" it out in front of some small town people..but you best believe when he gets back to NYC and LA, hes hitting up the *** bars with his buddies..whatever the case may be, she seems happy so thats all that matters..they seem like they love being parents and theyre cool with each other so hey
i dont get the connection btwn he & donnie mcClurkin. so if they were married by a straight pastor that would make him straight too? what your pastor do & what you do usually have no connection whatsoever. lol. whether he was *** or not he was str8 enuff to make a baby so thats all that really matters. *** kim you still got them HUGE Mamajamas!
@gigi
I totally agree. Dude know when other dudes are "how you doin" becus its certain things that str8 men dont do. Not that anyone is 100% str8, but its just certain mannerisms. And he is definately flamin, its all in the eyes.
Donnie McClarkin(sp?) is still ***, but thats btwn him and his god.
@pink I wouldnt be surprised if King Latifah hooked them up or Jada, Will Smith prolly hittin dat.
hello everyone!congrats to kim and her new husband, that;s there marriage and business if he is *** he is not lying to no one really but himself, its unfortuate that these that are really *** still marry these women and have kids just come out and be yourself already, i hear people saying that she *** have married him because he looks *** but i know some guys that look morelike a woman than a man but what about the men that's ruggid thuged out and as *** as little richie. us as women have to be careful because looks are and can be deceiving
"Touch not my anointed, do my Prophet NO HARM"......these are the words of God to protect His prophets (children). When you or whomever goes against that (even sometimes in jesting)the results may not be pleasant. I myself (who does comedy regularly) am learning that even as I post this. We are to be and speak positive about everyone, even if the person may look or do something that is not too attractive. But we really have to keep our mouths off of Men and Women called of God to do a specific work in the Earth. Don't get it twisted, the majority of the little 'notes' in the photos are hilarious......but now you are dissin the Man of God and as the ole folk say, "God don't like ugly!" and your website is already a little sensitive...... Keep your comments to a minimum and try to be tasteful and funny at the same time because Mr. Caucasian White Man With Money is calling ALL BLACK FOLK all kinds of hoe's, tramps, ***, welfare receivin, baby makin, gang bangin, triflin tax eating no good ni**as!..........comment on that and not the Man of God.
I don't like Donnie McClurkin he tries to act holier than thou but if he has every had *** with men at any time in his life that still makes him *** az hell and I bet he still fantasizes about being with men...Plus he does not look good he alwayz has a goofy look on his face...and I don't like the fact that the Black WOmen at his church said being *** was not natural...well neither is spreading your *** legs when your not married but that doesn't stop most black women from having pre-martial ***...
First of all everyone needs to stop judging Donnie least you be judge by the living God. It is a good thing we have an advocate like Jesus who doesn't judge us or reminds us of our past sins; only man does that who is no better than the person he points fault to.
If you are a recovering alcoholic - you live day by day fighting temptation.
If you are a recovering drug user - you live day by day fighting temptation.
If you was a prostitute - you live day by day fighting temptation.
If you are a recovering burglar, thief, murderer - you live day by day fighting the temptation.
If you are recovering from being a habitual liar - you live day by day fighting the temptation.
What ever it is God has delivered you from you know there will be days that your flesh will rise up to tempt you. That is why the scriptures say it is better for you not to partake of sin. Because you cannot miss what you never had; but if you do then it is that much harder to refrain because you took that road.
Donnie is being real about his lifestyle, he choose to stay celibate because he know that even though he found strength in God to refrain from homesexual acts with men, he knows he is not attracted to women. Therefore he is not fooling himself or misleading some woman. Because we don't know if Donnie prayed to God and asked Him to make women appealing to him.
God is content with you being celibate if you choose not to find a mate. I know many people who serve God who choose to be celibate who are straight.
Now then...congratulation to Kim and Chris here is hoping for a successful marriage built on a genuine and proper foundation. Amen.
@GIGI See that is yall problem nobody cares if you think he is till ***! That is not for you to judge. So you are trying to tell me that GOD can't make a *** man straight?? Huh what type of God do yall serve one who made us you mean to tell that the sin of *** is so strong and great that the ALMIGHTY can't change it! I think the problem isn't with donnie or anybdy else the problem is with the God that YOU ALL are serving. MY GOD CAN DO ANYTHING BUT FAIL!!!!
@Standard You are so right...the most thuggish dudes are so *** I know cause they try to get at me cause I'm more feminine but what I found out was that thuggish dudes usually get at other thuggish dudes and they usually don't holla at fem *** dudes because they are to busy having *** with each other to notice a flammer like Donnie McClurkin...
I co-sign princepop! and why are people concerned with whether or not Donnie M. *** it's no one's business except for God because he's going to have to give into account for his own sins just like the rest of us. He was raped by a man when he was a child so he thought that it was "normal" to be with a man, but he's living a celebiate life and trying to do better with his life that's he's business. "Let ye who be without sin cast the first stone"
f*ck Donne McClurkin..theres no way you can convince me that a man who used to f*cked and get f*cked by other men in the azz and who gave and received blow jobs from men is now a coverted heterosexual that denoucnces all of the things he used to (and still does) receive pleasure in participating in..f*ck him! hes a fraud, hes a fake, a phony, a charlatan, and most importantly hes a ***..you can try to live your life as a hetero, you can get married, have kids and live the "American dream" and preach the scriptures-but when nature takes over and the flesh becomes weak, Donnie wants a man to satisfy his urges, not a woman..he will masturbate to a man pleasing him..you can wear a mask but your true face lies beneath..and it kills me that black people are making this guy rich and famous and following his ministry and trusting him for spiritual guidance
Rainbowbright...God is watching you too
i knew people would get sensitive on this subject...its not like i'm judging Donnie..its just that i don't believe that he isn't *** anymore...but to each his own...we are all God's children...
And to let the sensitive people know...i walk with the Lord everyday...now with that being said i'm out!!!
dont give me that *** "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" we are all with sin, but Im not the one leading a ministry! Im not preaching the bible and convincing people to live a life that I couldnt (and still cant) live..people love him now because hes so called straight? what if he came out and admitted that hes still ***? would you still follow his word? would you still give money to his empire? people have been so conned by this man for so long, that they are actually making excuses for his behavior
i believe that this man of God is walking in total deliverance. Some things only come by fasting and praying, and this I believe was a journey for Donnie. *** is a sickness and God is a healer.
MTO: The bibles say touch not my annointing....
Anyway I won't get all deep in this because my personal thought is that you must TOTALLY believe in GOD before you can understand this kind of deliverance...there is absolutely NOTHING to big for GOD! he is Alpha and Omega.
@gigi Dayum you must have gave him some of your money why you so mad?! What you need to realize is that it is not up to you to say whether he is *** or not who are you? The only thing that i can say is that i hope the people that are following him have a relationship with God for themselves and not those that try and have a relationship with the pastor because please believe that the pastor will not be the one reading your name on judgement day!!!
Hey Scarlett, SBW ane email2michael
@gigi..I don't think his ministry is a con, I think for any man/woman who is preaching the Word of God should not be taken word for word, we are all still operating out of flesh, so I would say eat the meat and spit out the bone. Then only man who can rightfully preach the Word of God without reproach is the Son himself.
The empire of which you speak is not donnies, it is the Lord's Kingdom and any monies that are donated to that body of Christ is for the uplifting of God's Kingdom...People's lives are being changed in that ministry, peoples phone bills, light bills, and grocey bills are being paid from the proceeds of that ministry, I'm just saying God use a jackazz to preach the word of God "IF" Donnie is a fake well God can use him too.
black folks kill me boy, as soon as a "***" debate comes to the borad..all the sinners stand up and become annointed preachers filled with the holy ghost and will stop at nothing to pass on god's word..halleluyah and *** up hipocrits!
this is the first time i even heard that he used to be "***"..this is news to me but i think the sin is in the action and not the thought, so if he is married to his wife and not cheating on her then I think he is living a heterosexual life
@Bluboy
No that's not what I believe...God makes NO mistakes..*** is not of God! The Lord destroyed an entire city for the act of ***, (New Testament) God gave man free will, so we can act as we please but will be judged for it, nOT by MAN so I am not judging I don't have a heaven nor a hell to send anybody too.
@gigi2007 lol thanks for the clarification, I *** have used "***" tho, that was mean Hey remember that girl "Kathy" who was on Diffren't Strokes? She was on their "very special episode" and was in a wheelchair with head gear to keep her neck straight or something...or was she missing her lower body? I can't remember. OH and my favorite guest character on Diffren't Strokes was Camilla, her big behind sang "Come on and Ease on Down, ease on down the rooooaaad" ya'll got me cracking up now. Remember when the Maytag man tried to molest poor Dudley? I hate that episode! Been 20 years and it still gets me upset! LMAO
Hey Smitty
@rainbowbright..you are ABSOLUTELY right! I dont want anyone to think that I am a hipocrit, but I do beleive in God and my husband is a man of the cloth...lol....WHO KNEW! However, I still live in the land of the LIVING! and I partake in things that those who do NOT have a relationship with GOD would say I was willfully sinning.
MICAHEL, I dont know what that man is, I know he is not the most hardest dude I've seen, But if he's *** he's gotta answer to God not us. I believe that any man that professes Jesus is Lord is saved and at the end of the day he needs to repent, I can only take a man by his word until proven otherwise and again it's not my place to judge but as a woman of God my job is to win souls over to Christ, and sitting in judgement or bashing a person is not going to do it...If we know what we say we know about Jesus he walked among thieves, murders, rapist, liars and so on and he showed by example..."you have to catch the fish before you can clean it".
lmao reading all deez responses, just bcuz someone got married and had a baby is too dam funny yo! if dude was bi, *** or str8 wut difference does it make? people reproduce and marry everyday lol! at least he had enough sense to marry a woman. I think da bible clearly states that in da last days, men will becomes lovers of men, most will puffed wit pride and selfish. LMAO, i just know wut i read, if this is da case we are in 4 a battle wit people, becuz they are born daily, and parents are'nt raising their children, da streets and tv is lol! maybe this is why so many people go through changes in their lives. No need to turn ur back on them tho. This could very well be one of ur family members one day, so dont ever think ur exempt!
I know I'm going to get chewed out for this, but it doesn't sound like Donnie McClurkin is reformed, it sounds like he's repressed. It seemslike he came to terms with the fact that the lifestyle he used to lead was in direct conflict with his relationship with his God and thus decided to refrain from that behavior. Doesn't mean he was "cured" of ***. Like some other posters said, it's not necessarily something you choose. I'm a heterosexual woman. I didn't wake up one morning and decide "Gee, I like men." It was a natural, innate desire to be with men, just as I have to assume it was for other straight people. So, if sexual orientation is a natural, ingrained thing, how do you go and change that? I'm not saying it's impossible, just that it's highly suspect. (And for the folks that say I'm going to hell, tell me something I don't know.)
As for Kim Fields and her husband, come on. What proof do we have that dude is ***? Yeah, he looks a little suspect, but as someone mentioned there are a lot of ***-thugs that look masculine as *** but still like taking it up the hershey highway. You can't tell someone's orientation based on looks alone.
@Nubian_Huntress that is exactly what deliverance means. when he decided that he was going to serve the Lord whole heartedly and knew that his sexual behavior was not pleasing in the sight of the Lord he kilt his flesh he came under the subjection of the Lord and repressed his own desires...I still say *** is a sickness if not then can somebody explain to me why God DESTROYED an entire city for this very act.
lmao at email2michael about Bobby Jones, the last time I accused these holier than thou deacons and pastors of the church for being undercover child molestors turning boys out at vacation bible school I got a phone thrown at me lol so I learned to keep it to myslef, but let me whisper this in your ear lol I thought bobby was one too lmao.......
I am trying not to make the believers of Donnie go nuts but an education is a wonderful thing. If God makes no mistakes then *** was meant to be. It has been around since the beginning of species. There is a point that is far greater than your beliefs. My strong theory, is intended as a form of population control otherwise there would be no use to have *** living on this planet. Being *** isn't a sin. It's not socially accepted in some circles but in no way is it a sin. You can be molested as a child and still be ***. I know plenty of boys who have been hurt as children and have never wanted the same-*** in that aspect. Open your views and mind and you will see that the world doesn't revolve around Pastor McClurkin.
@bluboy just read what SBW addressed to you...please explain..I don't read the bible and go on my way whistling. I read and study and the things I find to be suspect I give it to God. Someone said earlier you have to have a relationship with God for yourself he gave every man a measure of faith I chose to exercise the faith that is within me....and if some white men do the same well i guess we are alike
Black women are more like White men in the way they act and the way they see the world...So I don't know why Black women are dead set to try and have a hold on Black Men...When you should be attracted to the White Men that are like you...Its the minority of Black Women that are soft and feminine and that I'm attracted to...Its no secret that White men secretly (and sometimes openly) lust after black women...since slavery...
(in al ***'s voice) we have now come to the time of service where you give back to the lord our dear god...bring out those check books
Im asking for a 100$ minimum my dear congregation. remember the lord might not come when you want him but he's on time
(choir singing)
silver and gold..silver and gold. id rather have jesus...
@bluboy are you say'*** if we adapt to the world in which we live in then we're confined to the white mans way of thiking, hence, makes us just like him...well that's such a broad statement...However, there isn't a white man alive that could relate to me on any level, spiritual or otherwise. The bible also addresses "the whiteman" and not in a positive manner, so I have my reserves on that theory of yours. Not only that the black men that are intimidated by the balck women you are referring to are the ones who are struggling with who they are in every area..
smachan
You may have a point, but the Bible also mentions that if you have the desire or intent in your heart, it's just as bad as committing the sin. It's not enough to stop the offensive behavior if in your heart you still have the desire to partake in that behavior. I can't speak for Donnie McClurkin. I don't know what's in his heart and therefore can't attest to his reformation. But I do know that by simply refraining from the sin without addressing the desire within, you're just as bad off as if you committed the act itself. God doesn't need superficial transformations. He wants it from the inside out. So don't fake the funk if that's not what you're really feeling. (And once again, that's a matter between Donnie McClurkin and God. Only those two know if his "transformation" is for real.)
@Nubian_Hunstress
If we go on the theory that Jesus was without sin but tempted by all then that in itself says that you just because you think it doesn't mean it's a sin, it's when you act on it...The bible is clearly telling us that Jesus himself was tempted with *** but he didn't act on it, thus he was without sin. Please don't get me wrong I am not debating with you, and i say that cause i have seen people go to war over their thoughts vs someone elses...lol,,,I respect everybody's opinion
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Black women are more like White men in the way they act and the way they see the world...So I don't know why Black women are dead set to try and have a hold on Black Men...When you should be attracted to the White Men that are like you...Its the minority of Black Women that are soft and feminine and that I'm attracted to...Its no secret that White men secretly (and sometimes openly) lust after black women...since slavery...
************************************************* care to explain? *in my most sarcastic voice*.... on the real you aren't making sense.... I have no idea why you assume black women think like white men and where your theory lies at...
lmao at smitty and smachan, I'm guilty, I use to frequent church at one point just to catch the people who gets the holy ghost, *** i hope I don't get struck lol but that use to be hilarious.... *spanking myself on the hand, bad girl* lol....
Oh speaking of Silver and Gold...what's ya'lls verict on Kirk Franklin?
@gigi2007 I thought the Gooch turned out to be a girl all that time, if memory serves..i could be wrong.
@Smachan & Smitty: I'm so glad I go to an upscale church! The Mount Mariah Holy Praise and Jubliation *** Stomp and Glory Temple...and Faith Healing Dome. We accept debit cards! It's all electronical we is 21st century on ya azz. Our Passah is the Rev'run T.L. *** Hopkins III, esq.
Tutti always did have some beautiful breasts...lol
The entire notion of counseling or reforming *** is absolutely ridiculous....People are born with their sexual preference...Some may choose to repress or deny their nature, but it is a born characteristic (I trust the current known science on this issue)..But to each their own....Religion is the biggest "beard" of all in modern society, whether Catholic or Christian or otherwise...
rotflmao @ email2michael
woaahhh u got me laughing hard..so yall accept visa at yall church? woowww we need to step our game up. our kuntry *** is still dumping the money into the silver plate.
lol @ the *** and stomp temple
@ sbw
bad girl, but secretly i cant wait for praise and worship p[art of service because my grandma and aunts act a donkey when them fast songs come on..lmao (i can slip out and talk on my celly whithout them noticing and then i sneak back in when there wiping themselves down)
wipe em down' lol
@email2michael...you r STOOOOPID!!!lol...the old pastor ova dere use to be Ole revrrrun Cletus Brown Jr. son of Hattiemay and Joseph Faulks (how that boy became a jr.)...lol...I been around too many chirch folk...lawd ha mercy! ( speaking in tongues) rum *** gum ruffles have ridges I shalla com in on a honda.....lol...I'm done ya'll
For MTO to call Pastor McClurkin *** is a shame. That man stated that he was molested as a child and that he battled with he’s sexual identity not once did he state that he was a FORMER *** person.
Some of the things that MTO write about on this site is simple and plan ignorant. Grow up there is better things to speak about. (Your next president) or (current president)
(deacon smitty praying)
Dear heavenly father
we come to you with open hearts asking that you deliver us from the evils of sheman aka atl4life aka dolly aka the advisor
we ask that you bless the mto staff with the strength and the courage to go one week without reporting on beyonce.
we ask dear god that maneka and ursher get there *** together and stop pulling stunts becuz we gonna buy his album regardless
we come to you dear lord asking that not only will you give us joy in our lives but u have mercy on our souls cuz lord knows we clown on here ery morning and if our supervisiors knew the amount of time we spend on here..we would be fired ooo dear lord..
(sceaming) thank ya thank ya let the bloggers say amen
smachan
Definitely not taking offense or going to war over a difference in a opinions so don't worry that I'm going to go nuclear because we don't agree. Opinions are like a$$holes, everyone's got one. You make a very valid point regarding the temptation of Jesus and forgiveness of sin. My only point was some (and I stress some) people's belief that just by denying the problem, they are absolved of their sins. Not that simple. Especially in the case of something as murky as the notion of converting from *** to heterosexuality. (I've just seen a lot of folks do 180s and turn from sin without really addressing the problem only to have it backfire in their faces when everything comes to a boil.) Okay, the boss is crackin da whip and I still have two more hours before quitting time so I guess I better get back to work. Nice exchanging ideas with ya!
Peace
@email2michael..*** I cant remember..see Im old so I saw the show when it originally came out..I never really caught the repeats..and LMAO @Creflo *** Dollar and his wife Taffy..her name is freakin TAFFY..his name is DOLLAR..what the f*ck..sounds like a *** and his stripper.I cant take these people seriously, theyre all fake, frauds, phonies, charlatans, evil and out to get your money..people become so desperate for guidance and salvation that they will follow people who talk a good talk..I watch Mase preach on YouTube and the brotha can preach! almost got me swayin, talkin in tongues and giving up my rent money so he can buy another black SUV with rims and tinted windows to pick up some more trannies..spirituality lies within..Im not trusting these crooked azz theifs to get me to the promise land
*** IS NOT NATURAL:
Myth #1 *** is normal and biologically determined.
The truth... There is no scientific research indicating a biological or genetic cause for ***. Biological factors may play a role in the predisposition to ***. However, this is true of many other psychological conditions. Research suggests that social and psychological factors are strongly influential. Examples include problems in early family relationships, sexual seduction, and sense of inadequacy with same-*** peers, with resulting disturbance in gender identity. Society can also influence a sexually questioning youth when it encourages *** self-labeling.
Myth #2 *** cannot change, and if they try, they will suffer great emotional distress and become suicidal. Therefore, treatment to change *** must be stopped.
The truth... Psychotherapists around the world who treat *** report that significant numbers of their clients have experienced substantial healing. Change has come through psychological therapy, spirituality, and ex-*** support groups. Whether leading married or committed celibate lives, many report that their *** feelings have diminished greatly, and do not trouble them as much as they had in the past. The keys to change are desire, persistence, and a willingness to investigate the conscious and unconscious conflicts from which the condition originated. Change comes slowly, usually over several years. Clients learn how to meet their needs for same-*** nurturance and affirmation without eroticizing the relationship. As they grow into their heterosexual potential, men and women typically experience a deeper and fuller sense of themselves as male or female.
If some *** do not wish to change, that is their choice, yet it is profoundly sad that ***-rights activists struggle against the right-to-treatment for other *** who yearn for freedom from their attractions.
Myth #3 We must teach our children that *** is as normal and healthy as heterosexuality. Teenagers should be encouraged to celebrate their same-*** attractions.
The truth... Scientific research supports age-old cultural norms that *** is not a healthy, natural alternative to heterosexuality. Research shows that *** teens are especially vulnerable to substance abuse and early, high-risk sexual behavior. It does far more harm than good to tell a teenager that his or her attractions toward members of the same *** are normal and desirable. Teens in this position need understanding and counseling, not a push in the direction of a potentially deadly lifestyle. A 1992 study in Pediatrics found that 25.9% of 12-year-olds are uncertain if they are *** or straight. The teen years are critical to the question of self-labeling, so the facts must be presented in our schools in a fair and balanced manner.
There Is No "*** Instinct" In Animals
Anyone engaged in the most elementary animal observation is forced to conclude that animal "***," "filicide" and "cannibalism" are exceptions to normal animal behavior. Consequently, they cannot be called animal instincts. These observable exceptions to normal animal behavior result from factors beyond their instincts.
-- Clashing Stimuli and Confused Animal Instincts
To explain this abnormal behavior, the first observation must be the fact that animal instincts are not bound by the absolute determinism of the physical laws governing the mineral world. In varying degrees, all living beings can adapt to ***. They respond to internal or external stimuli.
Second, animal cognition is purely sensorial, limited to sound, odor, touch, taste and image. Thus, animals lack the precision and clarity of human intellectual perception. Therefore, animals frequently confuse one sensation with another or one object with another.
Third, an animal's instincts direct it towards its end and are in accordance with its nature. However, the spontaneous thrust of the instinctive impulse can suffer modifications as it runs its course. Other sensorial images, perceptions or memories can act as new stimuli affecting the animal's behavior. Moreover, the conflict between two or more instincts can sometimes modify the original impulse.
In man, when two instinctive reactions clash, the intellect determines the best course to follow, and the will then holds one instinct in check while encouraging the other. With animals that lack intellect and will, when two instinctive impulses clash, the one most favored by *** prevails.[4]
At times, these internal or external stimuli affecting an animal's instinctive impulses result in cases of animal "filicide," "cannibalism" and "***."
-- Animal "Filicide" and "Cannibalism"
Sarah Hartwell explains that tomcats kill their kittens after receiving "mixed signals" from their instincts:
Most female cats can switch between "play mode" and "hunt mode" in order not to harm their offspring. In tomcats this switching off of "hunt mode" may be incomplete and, when they become highly aroused through play, the "hunting" instinct comes into force and they may kill the kittens. The hunting instinct is so strong, and so hard to switch off when prey is present, that dismemberment and even eating of the kitten may ensue.... Compare the size, sound and activity of kittens with the size, sound and activity of prey. They are both small, have high-pitched voices and move with fast, erratic movements. All of these trigger hunting behavior. In the tomcat, maternal behavior cannot always override hunting behavior and he treats the kittens in exactly the same way he would treat small prey. His instincts are confused.[5] Regarding animal cannibalism, the Iran Nature and Wildlife Magazine notes: Cannibalism is most common among lower vertebrates and invertebrates, often due to a predatory animal mistaking one of its own kind for prey. But it also occurs among birds and mammals, especially when food is scarce.[6] -- Animals Lack the Means to Express Their Affective States
To stimuli and clashing instincts, however, we must add another factor: In expressing its affective states, an animal is radically inferior to man.
Since animals lack reason, their means of expressing their affective states (fear, pleasure, pain, desire, etc.) are limited. Animals lack the rich resources at man's disposal to express his sentiments. Man can adapt his way of talking, writing, gazing, gesturing in untold ways. Animals cannot. Consequently, animals often express their affective states ambiguously. They "borrow," so to speak, the manifestations of the instinct of reproduction to manifest the instincts of dominance, aggressiveness, fear, gregariousness and so on.
-- Explaining Seemingly "***" Animal Behavior
Bonobos are a typical example of this "borrowing." These primates from the chimpanzee family engage in seemingly sexual behavior to express acceptance and other affective states. Thus, Frans B. M. de Waal, who spent hundreds of hours observing and filming bonobos, says:
There are two reasons to believe sexual activity is the bonobo's answer to avoiding conflict.
First, anything, not just food, that arouses the interest of more than one bonobo at a time tends to result in sexual contact. If two bonobos approach a cardboard box thrown into their enclosure, they will briefly mount each other before playing with the box. Such situations lead to squabbles in most other species. But bonobos are quite tolerant, perhaps because they use *** to divert attention and to diffuse tension.
Second, bonobo *** often occurs in aggressive contexts totally unrelated to food. A jealous male might chase another away from a female, after which the two males reunite and engage in scrotal rubbing. Or after a female hits a juvenile, the latter's mother may lunge at the aggressor, an action that is immediately followed by genital rubbing between the two adults.[7]
Like bonobos, other animals will mount another of the same *** and engage in seemingly "***" behavior, although their motivation may differ. Dogs, for example, usually do so to express dominance. Cesar Ades, ethologist and professor of psychology at the University of São Paulo, Brazil, explains, "When two males mate, what is present is a demonstration of power, not ***."[8]
Jacque Lynn Schultz, ASPCA Animal Sciences Director of Special Projects, explains further:
Usually, an un-neutered male dog will mount another male dog as a display of social dominance--in other words, as a way of letting the other dog know who's boss. While not as frequent, a female dog may mount for the same reason.[9] Dogs will also mount one another because of the vehemence of their purely chemical reaction to the smell of an estrus female:
Not surprisingly, the smell of a female dog in heat can instigate a frenzy of mounting behaviors. Even other females who are not in heat will mount those who are. Males will mount males who have just been with estrus females if they still bear their scent.... And males who catch wind of the estrus odor may mount the first thing (or unlucky person) they come into contact with.[10] Other animals engage in seemingly "***" behavior because they fail to identify the other *** properly. The lower the species in the animal kingdom, the more tenuous and difficult to detect are the differences between sexes, leading to more frequent confusion.
-- "***" Animals Do Not Exist
In 1996, *** scientist Simon LeVay admitted that the evidence pointed to isolated acts, not to ***:
Although *** behavior is very common in the animal world, it seems to be very uncommon that individual animals have a long-lasting predisposition to engage in such behavior to the exclusion of heterosexual activities. Thus, a *** orientation, if one can speak of such thing in animals, seems to be a rarity.[11] Despite the "***" appearances of some animal behavior, this behavior does not stem from a "***" instinct that is part of animal nature. Dr. Antonio Pardo, Professor of Bioethics at the University of Navarre, Spain, explains:
Properly speaking, *** does not exist among animals.... For reasons of survival, the reproductive instinct among animals is always directed towards an individual of the opposite ***. Therefore, an animal can never be *** as such. Nevertheless, the interaction of other instincts (particularly dominance) can result in behavior that appears to be ***. Such behavior cannot be equated with an animal ***. All it means is that animal sexual behavior encompasses aspects beyond that of reproduction.[12]
It Is Unscientific To "Read" Human Motivation And Sentiment Into Animal Behavior Like many animal rights activists, *** activists often "read" human motivation and sentiment into animal behavior. While this anthropopathic approach enjoys full citizenship in the realms of art, literature, and mythology it makes for poor science. Dr. Charles Socarides of the National Association for Research and Therapy of *** (NARTH) observes:
The term *** should be limited to the human species, for in animals the investigator can ascertain only motor behavior. As soon as he interprets the animal's motivation he is applying human psychodynamics--a risky, if not foolhardy scientific approach.[13] Ethologist Cesar Ades explains the difference between human and animal sexual relations:
Human beings have *** one way, while animals have it another. Human *** is a question of preference where one chooses the most attractive person to have pleasure. This is not true with animals. For them, it is a question of mating and reproduction. There is no physical or psychological pleasure....The smell is decisive: when a female is in heat, she emits a scent, known as pheromone. This scent attracts the attention of the male, and makes him want to mate. This is sexual intercourse between animals. It is the law of nature.[14] Even biologist Bruce Bagemihl, whose book Biological Exuberance: Animal *** and Natural Diversity was cited by the American Psychological Association and the American Psychiatric Association in their amici curiae brief in Lawrence v. Texas and is touted as proof that *** is natural among animals, is careful to include a caveat:
Any account of *** and transgender animals is also necessarily an account of human interpretations of these phenomena....We are in the dark about the internal experience of the animal participants: as a result, the biases and limitations of the human observer--in both the gathering and interpretation of data--come to the forefront in this situation.....With people we can often speak directly to individuals (or read written accounts)....With animals in contrast, we can often directly observe their sexual (and allied) behaviors, but can only infer or interpret their meanings and motivations."[15] Dr. Bagemihl's interpretation, however, throughout his 750-page book unabashedly favors the animal *** theory. Its pages are filled with descriptions of animal acts that would have a *** connotation in human beings. Dr. Bagemihl does not prove, however, that these acts have the same meaning for animals. He simply gives them a *** interpretation. Not surprisingly, his book was published by Stonewall Inn Editions, "an imprint of St. Martin's Press devoted to *** and *** interest books."
Irrational Animal Behavior Is No Blueprint For Rational Man Some researchers studying animal "***" behavior extrapolate from the realm of science into that of philosophy and morality. These scholars reason from the premise that if animals do it, it is according to their nature and thus is good for them. If it is natural and good for animals, they continue, it is also natural and morally good for man. However, the definition of man's nature belongs not to the realm of zoology or biology, but philosophy, and the determination of what is morally good for man pertains to ethics.
Dr. Marlene Zuk, professor of biology at the University of California at Riverside, for example, states:
Sexuality is a lot broader term than people want to think. You have this idea that the animal kingdom is strict, old-fashioned Roman Catholic, that they have *** to procreate. ... Sexual expression means more than making babies. Why are we surprised? People are animals.[16] Simon LeVay entertains the hope that the understanding of animal "***" will help change societal mores and religious beliefs about ***. He states: It seems possible that the study of sexual behavior in animals, especially in non-human primates, will contribute to the liberalization of religious attitudes toward *** activity and other forms of nonprocreative ***. Specifically, these studies challenge one particular sense of the dogma that *** behavior is "against nature": the notion that it is unique to those creatures who, by tasting the fruit of the tree of knowledge, have alone become morally culpable.[17] Other researchers feel compelled to point out the impropriety of transposing animal behavior to man. Although very favorable to the *** interpretation of animal behavior, Paul L. Vasey, of the University of Lethbridge in Canada, nevertheless cautions: For some people, what animals do is a yardstick of what is and isn't natural. They make a leap from saying if it's natural, it's morally and ethically desirable. Infanticide is widespread in the animal kingdom. To jump from that to say it is desirable makes no sense. We *** be using animals to craft moral and social policies for the kinds of human societies we want to live in. Animals don't take care of the elderly. I don't particularly think that should be a platform for closing down nursing homes.[18] The animal kingdom is no place for man to seek a blueprint for human morality. That blueprint, as bioethicist Bruto Maria Bruti notes, must be sought in man himself: It is a frequent error for people to contrast human and animal behaviors, as if the two were ***. .... The laws ruling human behavior are of a different nature and they should be sought where God inscribed them, namely, in human nature.[19] The fact that man has a body and sensitive life in common with animals does not mean he is strictly an animal. Nor does it mean that he is a half-animal. Man's rationality pervades the wholeness of his nature so that his sensations, instincts and impulses are not purely animal but have that seal of rationality which characterizes them as human. Thus, man is characterized not by what he has in common with animals, but by what differentiates him from them. This differentiation is fundamental, not accidental. Man is a rational animal. Man's rationality is what makes human nature unique and fundamentally distinct from animal nature.[20]
To consider man strictly as an animal is to deny his rationality and, therefore, his free will. Likewise, to consider animals as if they were human is to attribute to them a non-existent rationality.
with all that said..I disagree..it cannot be changed and you know your orientation from when youre an itty bitty kid..you know if you want to kiss Steve or Susie..you may not know why you want to kiss them, but you know which one you want to choose..and for those trying to excuse his *** because he was raped by a man, show me studies saying that they are more prone to being ***? they may be more prone to participate in sexually deviant behavior, like promiscuity, rape, and other unhealthy behaviors, but he cannot blame his molestation for his desire for men..maybe he thought it was normal to be touched by a man, but that does not make you desire a man and abandon your natural orientation..if anything, that horrible act should repulse you and make you hate men..his *** was based on sexual desire
Finally, a different report from that Usher *** Tameka *** that was going on all weekend!
Kim, what a are u eating???!!!!!!! u got so big girl! but your husband looks cute though.
I didn't know that Donnie McClurkin was ***! I *** believe u MTO because u guys are always saying things that are not true about someone's sexuality. but then again if it is true... (NO comment... speechless). Lets just pray for him lol
To reaper and all others who devote all their time debating, with passion, how *** is a crime, how all of US are sick, that we are a "special" population and somehow, have been predestine to hell AND might I add, HIV/AIDS is God's answer to cure our planet of this atrocity [***]. Why devote so much time to judge our fate. Those of you without sin, cast the first stone, is a quick and simple rebuttal to your hatred and ignorance. I remember learning this verse in the past, NO SIN IS GREATER THAN THE OTHER. I live by that!
Question: What great untampered body of evidence do you have to constitute your dislike of your fellow man? Answer: NONE. ---Reaper, I challenger you and other to channel that energy and open your mind to the real problems in society. Start vocalizing and supporting your communities, write your congressman and senators about the problems within your neighborhoods, tell them how upset you are about the lack of funding they are putting in education, ask them why is cancer so prevalent these days and why isn't there any studies being done. Why are we really at war? Look at poor Genarlow Wilson, talk about people who waste time, write a script about that issue on congress.org. Don't be so passionate about things that are considered private and does NOTHING to harm you as a person. Who cares that that young or old man (or woman) took a second look at you, hell you may be somewhat attractive. Get real, use your energy and time wisely.
Have you ever been a victim of racism, sexism or cronyism (what Bush is guilty of.)? If you have, you didn't like, did you? Didn’t it hurt? It *** you off, didn’t it? But somehow you managed to get through it, that’s what I do, that's how I live. It hurts, because I am doing all that I challenged you and everyone else to do, but because what I do in the private sector of my life, it negates all. What a shame. What a waste. Get real!
A lot of christians believe that being *** is a sin. It is of the devil. And that being *** is a sin they can be washed away with being saved and asking god to relieve you of this sin. I however don't think this is true. That may help supress it but if you're *** then you're ***. No one can judge you except God. People that insult *** people are commiting sins too. No one is perfect. If people got right with the Lord and stop trying to call people out and judge them this world would be a much better place. When you point ur finger at someone there are 4 more fingers pointing back at you. Never believe what no one tells you about yourself. Good or bad.
@gigi2007: I agree with your comment except when a child is raped by an adult. Many (not all)of the men I've worked with who are *** took that path after being raped as a child. It is called a "learned behavior." Many girls who are raped, end up promiscuous because that's what they learned to do--have ***.
Do I think ALL *** can change? Heck no. I do believe many are born that way. For those of you who say God makes no mistakes, he has nothing to do with this. Put aside what you've been taught and look at Man and science--who've caused much pain for humans. That's why we can't explain rare illnesses or children who are born and die by age 5. What is happening in utero for all these people to be born ***? Many *** people would tell you they would love to change their lives in order to avoid the persecution of being a *** person. That says it all.
@Mscheek84: Donnie McClurkin has publicly denounced HIS *** and said he's looking for a wife. I don't know whether he speaks the truth but that's what he said. Being celibate is the only way to live for a reformed *** who's trying to change. They don't like women and if he feels he's sinning, than celibacy is it. Sounds too hard and complicated to me. Mr. McClurkin must be in prayer ALL the time because like a heterosexual man without ***, it must feel like the end of the world. Contrary to what Catholic priests teach, celibacy is not a natural behavior for any human.
I think he looks like a *** with his head shaved. I think his features are what make him look "***" How does he look ***? is he wearing makeup? are his eyebrows tweezed to death? So what maked him look ***?
It also amazes me how big a of a smokescreen some people allow religion to be. I'm not even going to get into that debate. The onyl think I have been trying to figure out for the life of me is how is it that people who have absolutely no experience with being *** becamse such experts on it causes, it solutions, and everything else about it. There is no proof that you can show that sexual orientation can be changed thru prayer because it is not possible. You can make a decision to have *** or not have *** .. that the extent of your choice in the matter. If you are attracted to something you are attracted. You can act on it or not act on it.
People want to holler *** is a sin.. its a sin... its a sin .... *** is NOT a sin and the bible doesn't say it is. Also we have to define what *** is .... *** is a sexual orientation where the person is sexually attracted to members of the same ***. Now .... lets look at this ....
If *** is a sin, By Donnie saying that he resists having ***, he chooses to be celibate because he is not attracted to women so he is not having *** and is not misleading some woman..... He is still ***!!!! Being *** doesnt mean you have to be sexually active.
SOOOOOOOOO ... you misled christian bible beaters who are told what to beleive instead of reading for them selves ... you say *** is a sin right? Then you turn around and say ... if you are ***, as long as you dont have *** with the same ***, you are pleasing God. That makes no sense what so ever. They are still *** so not having *** won't keep them out of Hell!! ***!! So whats the point of that?
You people will come up with the stupidest illogical arguments that make no sense ...then are the first people to try to hate and condemn someone and you can't even comprehend simple biblical scripture. You know that a *** cannot change WHO they are attracted to ... so you rationalize it by saying as long as they arent sexually active then they are okay then slap God's name on it that is your own convoluted logic not God's ... God didn't say that!
Also for the women who throw around the work F/a/g/ and are so holy and tappin their bibles saying that God can do anything, God can change a *** man straight thru prayer and all that erroneous ***.... Tell me ... HOW MANY OF YOU WOULD STAY WITH A MAN WHO TOLD YOU THAT HE USED TO BE ***? NOT one of you .... !!! That's because, you know in your heart that him changing is baloney!! You know he cant change which is why you wouldnt want to be with him.. If you really beleived that *** you are talking then you'd have no problem.... Freaking hyppocrites!!
God is concerned with our hearts, how we treat each other, how we help each other, how we respect ourselves.... that's how we serve God. God is good, God is Love, when we live our lives honestly, good, and practice love for ourselves and others THEN we please God. Jesus was Love all day everyday .... Jesus didn't say hate them, kill this person if they don't beleive, he persuaded people through love and benevolence, no one followed him because they were forced. Not the real followers.... then Hot *** ... the Romans came into it.... When religion became political, then is when Jesus' message was LOST .. and in these thousands of years we have gotten only worse...
didnt she get a breast reduction when she was like 15? *** it looks like them THANGS grew back!!
i was just gonna ask wheres that DownLow f*aggot Reaper & his 3hr rants on *** people & i scroll up & low & behold--there he is! your struggle w/ your sexuality Reaper must be really eating at you! You need to just bring yo ugly azz out the closet & quit frontin!! hahaha!!
Heywoodjublowme--his (Reaper)point is that he's struggling with *** himself & he's using these forums as an excuse to release his guilt. He only comments on *** stuff, if you ever notice. He leaves every other topic ALONE. Trust me its a REAL touchy subject w/ this brotha. Ladies, i hope your looking at this *** closely--if your man is over-the-top w/ his hatred towards ***, thats A SIGN he's Struggling!! a real man aint gonna let the sexuality of another threaten or anger him. If your secure in your manhood what another man does wont be an issue!!!
Call me crazy, but I don't see anything indicating that he's ***. I mean, did he announce this or something, has anyone ever seen him with a dude? You all should stop judging a book by the cover. I guess every man that comes across MTO that's not wearing a head rag or pants sagging low, or perhaps has a criminal history is ***. My hair stylist is a dude and resembles Kim's husband, and he has a wife and three kids, so if he's ***, then he *** sure covering that *** up lovely.
And to the ones that say you can't be *** and then turn straight, in what world? B/c one of my male child hood friends grew up being ***, and he is now a pastor, married to a woman and has two kids, again, if he's still ***, then he *** sure is covering that *** up lovely too.
The same way a man or woman that's been straight all their lives can turn ***, that goes the same way in reverse....you can turn straight after being *** all your life!
@PrettyBoi..I second that emotion..I once dated this dude, fine as hell, muscular, went to church, into sports-blah blah..he NEVER cursed..ever! that is, until we were driving around D.C. and saw two dudes holding hands..he turned into a demon and started cussin like a sailor and calling the *** dudes all sorts of names..just because he saw two dudes holding hands? I was in shock..thats when I knew..something just aint right..hes gorgeous, has a great job, his own apartment, a car and hes 36 and still single? and he claims hes dying to get married but he hasnt found the right woman..yeah right..yup ladies, watch out for dudes like this!
Vanilla one....
that is not being *** that's called Bisexuality.
Bisexuals are the only ones who have that kind of choice... if you are straight you like the opposite ***. If you are *** you like the same ***. I you are bi you are attracted to both and can choose to be with either. Your friend who was *** and married a woman was never ***.. he was always bisexual. Those who are straight and "turn ***" were always bisexual.
Anytime a man has smooth features and flawless skinm he is accused of being ***. I agree he doesn't look ***... he just looks smooth to me. I thin people really need to mind their business though. Who donnie sleeps with or doesnt sleep with is HIS business. If he believes what he preaches and condems *** and beleives it can be stopped with prayer he has the right to voice that belief .. we can either agree or disagree.... no one is forcing anyone to go to his church .. People need to let people be..... I get tired of people who act like they have to set the world straight on their beliefs ... ya know.... I mean .. do you.... I'm not saying you i'm just speaking in general.. Who a person sleeps with is their business and anyone who is sexually active owes it to their partners straight or *** to be responsible and honest about activities than can affect the other's health.
Done.
@Vanilla_One..people who claim they arent *** anymore do exactly what your pastor friend did..they get a "normal" life..a wife and kids..they may not practice *** anymore but thats simply because they are repressing themselves and forcing themselves to be straight..I bet if you crept up into his mind, you would be shocked at what he still thinks about..but when he sees a fine *** man with a muscular body..he will be thinking about that man while he makes love to his wife..but those thoughts will never die because its natural and a part of who you are
donnie m is *** cuz he was molested by his unle so many years, and i guess he was use to freakin a man. but he said he was working throught his demons and he is now straight. he is basically forcing himself to be straight, even though deep down inside he wants to be with a man. but about kim soon to be husband...... idk ... he may have alil tamberine thing going on, lol
@ MLExperience
.."I you are bi you are attracted to both and can choose to be with either."
I'm not sure if I understood that line however, I do get what your saying. Trust me when I say my childhood friend was strictly ***...not bisexual. He has never been with another woman until he started dating his wife. He has always been with men throughout his teen and twenties, I mean it was so dangerous to where he would disguise himself as a woman with these men not knowing *** b/c he had strong womanly features to him. Now as far as my hair stylist, I'm still confused a little b/c he acts, talks and present himself too much like a woman....but he's married to a female and has kids sooooo idk what to think about him, but he says he straight so that's what I have to go with. I hate to dispute someone that has control over my hair lol.
@gigi2007, I'm quite sure he still fantasize about men and probably picture his wife as a man when they are having ***, but I say why go through the extreme of giving yourself to god and reforming or reclaiming your manhood, if your not sure of sexuality? I think that is disrespectful and dishonest, not only to god but to your wife as well.
gigi2007--yep. thats exactly what im talkin about. i mean if you not down, then you not down. you dont need to make a Federal Case about it. But these dudes don't even realize they outting themselves with all that drama & hysterics. & all that big, buffed, thugged out macho *** aint nothin but act half the time too. them the same n*ggaz that'll grab another dudes booty when they dont think nobodys lookin--TRUST ME ON THAT ONE!
one dude here on MTO (i wont say who) BUT this a-hole called me out on all this *** stuff, then this n*gga found my email & tried to holla at me! go figure.
gigi, im EXTRA surprised you're answering me.
(looks at watch) its past 5:00 homie. lmao!
@PrettyBoi--air that ish out, who was it?!
ok. Im bout to trip y'all out. But there are these "thugs" where I live. And one approached me before, and was just sooo bold about asking for my number and to sleep wit him. So everytime I see these dudes who always act like ***, the whole "oh i love coochie" act
they are alwaysss hugged up under eachother, and you can tell the way they look into eachothers eyes theres something brewing under the surface.
none of em have girlfriends except the leader, who has a girl and a kid on the way? hmmmm
@Picasso..LOL..dude, Im not one of those people that only have the internet at work..you only hear from those people monday-friday 9-5.lol..theyre too cheap to get the internet at home because they abuse the one they have at the office..as a matter of fact, Im shocked most of the people that are on MTO all day have kept their jobs..doesnt anyone monitor what yall do on the net? lol..I was off today so I have been all over MTO! anyway..back to the *** stuff!
She is too *** old to be getting married, I'm surprised that her coochie still works...Why does she wear blond dreads?(She wants to be a white jamaican)...Why does he taste the fruit?(because men feel on his booty)...Why is McClurkin a *** pastor?(because the downlow brothas in the hood put it on him)...Who gave this pastor his credentials?(Degrees online)...I wonder if they can give me some pastor credentials?($200.00 with shipping & Handling included)...Why do women like *** men?(so they can get tips on how to look good to attrack men)...Why do Venus Williams look like a stegga-saurus(she got it from her mama)...Just remember 1 thing in life, and 1 thing only..."SHERMAN HELMSLEY IS ***"...
personally I’m just glad to see her with a African American man because every time I saw her she was dating/marrying another race. Kim still looks like Kim and I’m not mad at her. I don’t know what high school you guys went to but at my high school we KNEW who was ***, they wore girl hair styles, tight clothes, and very flamboyant.
it's this simple...
if man looks within himself for answers, he's being selfish and will constantly be at war with himself
if a man looks to Christ to help him deal with what's within, then he can live a life KNOWING that God is in control.
it's not about us! we are to serve HIM and do as he says, we all have a ministry!
get your spirit together, don't worry about satisfying your flesh b/c basically it's the one thing that keeps us in damnation!
lean not on your own understanding, but trust God to show you the way, it may feel weird, uncomfortable, but it's in alignment with God!
we live in a world filled with sin. BUT free will allows us the ability to have a relationship with God or not. it's nobody's fault but your own if you allow temptation to lead you astray.
we're human, it's natural for a woman and man to have sexual desires and needs, however, you *** act upon those desire unless you are married...otherwise, it's lust and that's how you get caught up.
i don't believe in small, medium, and big sins...they all have the same conseqences, but if you don't fight with the word God has given you, then prepare to pay the price. simple.
my writing is a little skatty, but a sista had to spill from the heart and type off top of the dome on this one...
It is very much so possible that a person can start out *** and then change. I was bi-sexual in my earlier years. I made a stern decision and conquered those inner demons and I give God all the honor. When ppl say that its impossible to change then I have to beg the differ. Anything is possible with God and if you set your mind to it!
Black people need to stop blaming God for everything. Take some personal responsibility. There is no *** rehab. If you are ***, you are *** for life. You notice the story didn't say Donnie Mcclurkin was formerly *** but now dating women. It said he was *** and is now celibate. Straight men aren't usually celibate. He may not be acting on his urges, but he is still ***.
Prettyboi u know I'm finna do research lol...but its not shocking at all to me.... ************************************************* gigi2007 Flag post
@PrettyBoi..I second that emotion..I once dated this dude, fine as hell, muscular, went to church, into sports-blah blah..he NEVER cursed..ever! that is, until we were driving around D.C. and saw two dudes holding hands..he turned into a demon and started cussin like a sailor and calling the *** dudes all sorts of names..just because he saw two dudes holding hands? I was in shock..thats when I knew..something just aint right..hes gorgeous, has a great job, his own apartment, a car and hes 36 and still single? and he claims hes dying to get married but he hasnt found the right woman..yeah right..yup ladies, watch out for dudes like this!
************************************************ GIGI2007: LMAO!!! AT THIS STATEMENT....
Well Kim and her husband look alike so maybe this is a good omen that their marriage will last.
The comment about Donnie Mc Clurkin was very mean spirited. He admits to having *** experiences in the past as well as being sexually molested as a child by his uncle. He is trying to walk a different path of life now.
The work he is trying to do ministering to *** men to try to help them change their lifestyle should be commended not condemned. We all fall *** sometimes. At least he is trying to change and trying to help others to overcome this difficult lifestyle. His ministry should be praised.
There are many people on the downlown Pastor Mc Clurkin's stepped out in the light and is now trying do make a difference. This is a big step and it is not easy. It's even harder when our own folks won't even give the man a chance.
I've worked with *** in the past, some are very happy with being *** and others would love to change their lifestyle, then you have a set that pretends to be straight so that they are not outcast and these are the men who put our women in danger of catching HIV and AIDS.
Only Kim's husband and God knows what his real status is and if he was *** or bi-sexual he seems to be working with his issue. I wish the best to the new couple.
First of all, having been saved and delivered myself from issues (*** not being one of them) I KNOW THAT GOD IS A DELIVERER!!!! And coming in contact with the holy spirit CAN AND WILL change your life forever! So to all those who don't believe that Donnie McClurkin could have changed....get saved and have an experience with God for yourself!!!! I'm done!
Tha was a dumb comment keep your husband away from Pastor Donnie, He said he was past tense an helps men who are *** come out of it through God, so why would you say keep him away, if the man is *** maybe thats who he should be around. An wheter he is or not its not your job to judge him, your not his creator so he has nothing to answer to you about!!!
MTO, why do y'all hate on *** so much ? ***. Well, you know how it goes. Usually, the ones who 'can't stand *** people' so much are the ones who really are ***, but they hate who they are. Y'all need to lay off of Donnie too. He can't help what happened to him. As for Kim and her husband: If it works for them, so be it. It's about their happiness, and no one else's. Now, it wouldn't be me, but that's ok, cause it's NOT me. IMHO, if he's ***, he should be with a man. Period. Of course, i say that because i love me some Regine, and that would free her up so i can get my ***, lol. Smooches !
Unfortunately Donnie was molested as a young child the day of his little brothers funeral by his Uncle as told in the video version of Donnie's life. Then he was molested again by a cousin who is the son of the Uncle later in this man's life. Does that make him a ***? Maybe by default and not of his own doing, but we cannot judge him if he happens to swing the other way. I believe he has come a long way from these encounters to find the strength to just stop what he may consider in GOD's eyes to be wrong. SODOM and GOMMOR didn't stand long with these sort of acts and neither will any other country that condones it!!!!
Bless you Mr. McClurkin for excercising your beliefs.
