i don't care what your political affiliations are but i don't see how anyone, could have seen obama's speech to the nation yesterday and not conclude that something is deeply flawed with this man. he was cold and dispassionate. he spoke for two and a half minutes, at the beginning about an unrelated matter, including ghetto "shout outs" and light laughter before he offered condolences. there is no excuse. people complain when bush didn't want to frighten school children on 9/11 but this man had hours to prepare an appropriate response. open your eyes people.
Barnbrat, I didn't even bother listening to him. What bothers me is that the suspect DIDN'T WANT TO BE SHIPPED TO IRAQ OR AFGHANASTAN. He was a psychiatrist who had heard war stories from soldiers who had been over there. IT LETS YOU KNOW HOW BAD THINGS ARE OVER THERE. Now Obama is responsible for 12 deaths and 30 people injured. Yet he's laughing and cracking jokes. He's probably planning another vacation. THAT MAN IS THE WORST PRESIDENT EVER.
storm it will be interesting to see how he's treated here on. will he get a military trial or will he be tried in a friendlier court? remember he is muslim and the c.i.c. is a sympathizer. i can't wait to hear his defense. before this is over, he'll sue the military for what he became. it's too bad his wounds weren't fatal.
@Stormzoey
You must be a damn fool. It was your BUSH and not Obama who started the war. Tell me, where are the WMD's that were supposedly over there? DOnt bother answering. Your god Bush never gave a clear one.
By your narrow logic, Bush is then responsinle for the 4000+ who died on 9/11, and those killed at Virginia Tech. He was presidnent then
Also, shame of MTO for racebating. You are no better than those White Supremacist websites whose headlines read "Blacks at it again"
I agree with malletdiva that how is Obama responsible for these deaths. I like old stormzoey state her opinions, but this time she is way off. This war was started even before Obama was even on the campaign trail. I guess every president that had a war going on during their presidency is responsible for the deaths....Kennedy, Lincoln, Washington, Clinton.....the list goes on.
@Safari1
Thank you. He's not. This is just the GOP trying to scapegoat him and grasping at straw. This man is responsible for his own horrific actions
There were right wingers trying to say this same mess on my local paper's website and they got shut down. It's just another "talking point"
Soon, the debate over gun control vs gun rights is going to start with the GOP arguing that "if soliders could carry personal weapons this would not have happened" Fort Hood is a "no gun" zone.
Either way, RIP to the brave men and women who died......
Barnbrat: I find it supsicious that he was shot four times and didn't die. Remember the original reports were saying he was dead. Who protected him? Was he ever really shot? Why was Obama so happy?
Malletdiva: How many more times do I have to say that I never voted for Bush nor was I ever a Bush supporter. I never agreed with the war, that's why I was dismayed when Obama (whom I did vote for) expanded the war to another country. GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT. Unlike you I don't worship any man...Obama...Bush...no one.
R.I.P to all those who died.
I see the Anti- Obamanuts are at it again. Attempting to turn a thread that has absolutely NOTHING to do with the Prez, into one all about him. You people, seriously, should try doing something better with your lives, other than patroling MTO for posts to bash Obama on. Yall's act is really getting old and tired and it says a lot about the kind of people you are.
@malletdiva02
I completely agree with your posts. Contniue to call them on on their foolishness & ignorance.
Barnbrat and Bourgie: Thanks for the link. Slowly but surely the liberal media is waking up. OBAMA IS NOT WHAT HE CLAIMS TO BE. 42 people shot up by a radical muslim or whatever he is and Obama laughs before giving his speech off the teleprompter. This is why I got the hell away from the Democratic party. They always drop the ball. TOO BAD OBAMA NEVER HAD IT. He hasn't done one substantial thing since becoming the fake ass POTUS. AMERICA IS DOOMED.
And if this would have happened if Obama would have pulled some troops out or even ended the war all together he would still be responsible. How can a man fix things with less than a year in office. Americans are never satified, I guess Barack really is "Barack the Magic Negro" if he turn everything around in less than a year. Let's work with this man....we had to deal with Bush. Storm you was hating on this man you voted for in less than six months. of this tenure.
To the dumbass. The number of people killed will continue to increase because those injured still may die. So MTO WAS CORRECT, FOR ONCE. I wish that you would get an education, so you would understand these things. SMDH@THE GHETTO RAT TRYING TO CORRECT SOMEONE. HEE-HEE-HEE!
Back to topic: Even many liberals agree that Obama acted like he didn't give a damn about the victims. At least Bush cared.
Safari, I'd like to debate with you but I have to go. I will be back on tonight. If I don't see you, all I ask is that you stop blaming Bush. Obama wanted to be POTUS. He has been POTUS for 11 months. It's time for him to man up and stop pointing the finger at Bush. Either he can lead the country OR HE CAN'T. I'm waiting for him to prove me wrong. So far, he hasn't.
Sfari1 wrote:
Storm you was hating on this man you voted for in less than six months. of this tenure.
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She was lying, she didn't vote for Obama. Don't believe that poser when she tells that lie.
stormzoey/stormzoe was bashing Obama before he took the oath of office, that's when I knew for sure she was lying about voting for him.
No one can blame Obama or Bush for what happened. He was a Muslim soldier and his religion trumped his duty. I spent 8 years in the Army, my last duty station was Fort Hood, and I am waiting to find out the names of the victims.
Yes, Obama's words were cold, but since he has no personal ties to any of them and they are his distant subordinates I see (though I don't understand) his lack of empathy.
And just so you know, WMDs are made from numerous components, all of which were located in Iraq "compounds". There are pictures and data to be found if you look hard enough.
I wish we would get out of Iraq, but its not going to happen anytime soon. (If Iraq ever gets on its feet the value of their money will skyrocket and my 4.75 mil Iraqi Dinar will make me a very happy woman!)
This is the most brain dead argument out there. This shows how out of touch liberals are with reality.
How many people did you mention mallet? Three? Wow, how many jihadists have been responsible for murdering innocent civilians over the last 20 years? It's not even comparable.
That's like comparing the the D.C. sniper to the holocaust. It's that lopsided.
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malletdiva02 Flag post
Frankly, Arabs are not the only ones who commit terrorist acts. Must we forget about Timothy McVeigh, Terry Knickles, or Eric Rudolph?
The United States gov't is no longer for or by the people. Don't fool yourself by thinking anyone in the gov't is going to do anytihng to make your life easier or happier and definately not wealthier. Is it about Obama? Goodness NO. Bush? Definately not. The system is about $$$, they want it, Corporations have it. The Gov't caters to them - screw amerians....
@1SuAvEgEnT so stormzoey is a liar huh? I should have caught that cause she has been bashing this man forever. Sometimes I wonder was she denied a position in his cabinent? How can a person turn this tragedy into Obama's fault. Look at all the things that happened in Bush's presidency. Katrina, D.C. Sniper, 9/11, hell since we're blaming presidents...Anna Nicole & Heath Ledger's deaths, the collasp of the bridge in Minnesota...let's blame the serial murders in Cleveland on Obama too.
Obama is a war monger. He is no different than Bush. Obama is simple 4 more years of George Bush. Just look at the economy, after all that money spent unemployment is still outrageous.
And he ran his campaign on the promise that he would set a timeline to get our troops out of Iraq.... Where is that deadline? And what good is it if he is just going to send our children to Afghanistan?
@ stormhoe, barnbrat & remaining klan members
Is there EVER a time when you dumb ass crackas stop using this Black man our President for your mesiahs f*ck ups?! Damn, American soldiers were killed and you dumb ass motherf*ckers are focused on President Obama's speech? You morons are a PERFECT example of what UNAmerikkkans are, let them invoke the draft for your BUSH war and we'll see if you punk bitches run and hide then!!!!
dagreat1 wrote:
the fact that all of these lamers are trying to talk amongst themselves on the SAME subject and ignore people...should tell you one thing....THAT THEY ARE THE SAME PEOPLE OR GROUP OF PEOPLE
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Hmmmm, interesting point.
They all seem to do the same thing. I guess whomever chose to use the barnbrat1 screen name to turn a non Obama thread into an Obama thread. All this proves is how much of a life the people/person DON'T have. I mean if you're patroling MTO for threads to bash Obama on, how much of a life can you have?
dacommie1 you are ignorant as hell!! Black people don't use the word "liberal," are you fvcking serious?! newsflash, NOT ALL BLACK PPL THINK/TALK THE SAME WAY. You were probably one of those ignorant people in school who said black people who speak with any intelligence or take AP/honors classes are "acting white." And so what if I am from the suburbs, what do you have against the suburbs. I know you wish you lived in the suburbs, stop acting jealous.
also its kind of IRONIC you just called someone gay after defending homosexuals and talking about how hard homosexuals have it. hypocritical.
You are hypocritical, after talking about how hard the homosexuals have it you use 'gay' as a pejorative. No one is trying to say homosexuals cant live how they want, they just cant impose their lifestyle on all of us and tell us they're 'marriages' are legal. And 5% of black people did not vote for Obama, they voted for McCain-Palin, so you do not know the words ALL black people use. Am I suppose to wish I lived in the inner city? Biitch please, if you had a choice between the ghetto and the suburbs youre gonna choose the suburbs dumbazz.
So stop acting jealous and projecting. You don't have any authority on how a black person should or should not behave, because you act like an uneducated ghetto fool prone to meltdowns. Absolutely no semblance of intelligence comes from your arguments, so you're not exactly someone to take seriously. You can't form an intelligent, adult argument in a way that others who disagree can, such as 1suave.
the amount of things you make up and pull out of your azz also gives you absolutely no credibility, such as catholics being the only christian denomination that believes in the trinity, that bill cosby said the huxtables were republicans, and now that blacks support civil unions: [link to external website removed]
for being a lawyer (haha!) you sure have a hard time getting many of your damn facts straight. lol what a joke.