This is a forum post by the user Uncle_Tom

IM GOING TO BOYCOTT /"AMERICAN GANGSTER/"

: Im boycotting /"American Gangster/" because its a lie and its another stab at the black man in Hollywoods/" historical quest to demean the black man and destroy the BLACK FAMILY STRUCTURE...

tHE STORY is centered on an illiterate negro named Fank Lucas who was a street corner dope peddler and bodyguard for a nother dope peddler named Bumpy Johnson.

They used this negro to import enourmous amounts of heroin into the black communities across America to extinguish the black consciousness movement of the 60/'s!....

IT WAS COINTELPRO AND FRANK LUCAS WAS WORKING FOR THE CIA !!!

The big lie is this guy through a family member in Vietnam just stumble by accident(LOL) on a heroin connection worth hundreds of millions of dollars and this FUNCTIONALLY ILLITERATE NEGRO WAS ABLE TO OUTSMART THE AMERICAN COVERT SPY AGENCIES AND SMUGGLE DRUGS FROM VIETNAM RIGHT UNDER THEIR NOSES WITHOUT THEM KNOWING ABOUT IT....

I put that story on par with Santa, God and the Easter Bunny laying chicken eggs in April....

This guy is still proteced by the CIA because hes still protecting the CIA and their true role in that trade...

Same thing with Freeway Ricky Ross in California...The CIA had to stop the flow of new black consciousness through Public Enemy, Native Tongue, and the slew of Black conscious rappers who could have change the world if allowed to continue..

So what do they do..They hire a new negro,Ricky Ross and flood the black community with crack cocaine and bring in Gangster Rap and Gangster ism to extinguish Black Family Love...

In the 60/'s after the heroin flooded our communities then they then dropped /"Superfly/" and /"The Mack/" on the people and the people dropped their black leather coats, their red , black and green medalliion and cut their afros off and got perm kits, pimp coats, some coke and got them a couple of prostitutes...

i KNOW folks are going to call me a sell out and tell me I need to support Denzel and black movies..

Well, American Gangster isnt a black movie...Its a white corporate film with black actors as their employees and their means in which to tell a lie on film...

American Gangster is a WHITE MOVIE...

i WOULD CONSIDER A BLACK MOVIE THE FILM PROJECT THAT DANNY GLOVER IS WORKING ON ABOUT THE HAITIAN REVOLUTION THAT IS BEING 100% FINANCED BY US...look out for that. Denzel already got his money(40 million) an I hope he uses it to help build up black people globally.

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cat4everrr

Best line of the movie-

"take off those glasses you simple simon look'n mothafu*ka"


stingray9

@cat, so did you see any obvious contraditions in the movie today?


cat4everrr

@ stingray9

i haven't looked into the background of the movie yet. it will be interesting to see if any of what uncle tom says turns out any truth. but the movie was SUPER GOOD. DENZEL SET IT OFFFFFFF


stingray9

@cat, American pop culture is extremely extremely suductive its not good to take everything at face value expecially when America tells a story about Black people. Do some investigating.


HUEmanbro

I agree with you I already saw it online anyway,but I wasn't going to support it. Blacks like to glorify minstrel,ingorant ish.


Uncle_Tom

@cat4everr

Thats EXACTLY why these people choose to dress their lies up with appealing and popular icons like Denzel....

So you can say "Denzel Did The Damn Thing"! But what they hd the brother do was validate their lies and deception for them in an acceptable package...

Thats the name of the Game. and I like Denzel but I cant help but think that because hes getting older, hes trying to maximize his income while he still can and hes starting to accept roles that he previously wouldnt accept because it was at odds with the truth.


cat4everrr

what did Denzel do wrong. he played a part in a movie that taught us if you sell drugs you will lose everything and either die or go to jail.


cat4everrr

dang, hope i didn't give away the ending for anyone who hasn't seen it yet


bdsbabydoll

WTF? I'd done my research on this issue before I went to see it, and frankly, I wanted to see it because I wanted to see how they were going to package it, and slide this one by us. It was brilliant how them mofo's did it. I never cry during movies, but the part where they cut from the dead woman with the baby on the bed, back to Frank Lucas's really nice house was absolutely horrid. There was a line where Denzel said "I have Harlem protecting me"..and I wondered how could an entire community support someone like that back in those days?


Uncle_Tom

its not what Denzel did wrong...

Its that Denzel is helping Hollywood package an historical LIE, with his fame and presence...

@bdsbabydoll

Another lie...Harlem wasnt protecting him..The police was working WITH HIM and any blck person who went to the police to report his crimes, their names were turned over to Frank Lucas so he can kill or injure them and/or fighten their families...

Thats where the "DONT SNITCH" mantra began in the black community///The black community that the police and the criminals were working together and snitching on the criminals could get you and your loved ones killed...

We had to learn that the hard way...My father taught me well.


stingray9

@cat, American cinema is dangerous it will having you rooting against yourself and cheering on your enemy. A classic example of this is Tarzan and King Kong. Many black people even today fail to see the symbolism in rooting for Tarzan to sweep through Africa with a vengeance and punk all the Africans who are afraid of their own shadow.

Same with King Kong which represents the Black man in chains (slave) brought over to America in chains and forced to work for white male profit and then King Kong has eyes for the white woman and must be shot on the spot by the white male. Sounds too real to me.

I don’t care how they dress up King Kong for modern times they can call it “a more political correct Kong” I refused to allow my children to watch such mind poison when that movie came.


Uncle_Tom

See, if the CIA themselves came into teh black community in their little black suits and sunglasses and sole heroin (now its crack) on the street corners, it wouldnt sell, BECAUSE BLACK PEOPLE DONT TRUST WHITEY...

Thats why they have to get a blackface to be the front man..

Thats why they had to get a black face to shoot Malcolm Thats why they had to get a black face to shoot Dr. Khalid Abdul Muhammad.


cat4everrr

@ stingray9

you may very well be right. i don't pretend to have any real knowledge of what goes on behind the scenes of cinema. maybe i'll check it out


bdsbabydoll

@ Tom I know...that was more a rhetorical question than anything. There was no way you could import something like that, and in that amount, without the tacit approval of the powers that be. And it was absolutely gangsta how they took all of that money back, and still had the drugs too. So now they had more capital for another startup.


Uncle_Tom

and I know for a fact, if Denzel was reading this thread he would be in agreement with everything we are saying about the CIA being the actual drug dealers and smugglers and using Frank Lucas and Freeway Ricky Ross as front men.


prettylatina

Great, the only movie I actually wanted to take time out of my busy life and see is nothing but a bunch of fabricated lies? Go figure.


thugginprincess

I KNOW FOR SURE THAT THEY LIED AT THE END FRANK LUCS DIDNT GOT TO JAIL FOR 15 YEARS... HE WENT FOR THREE AND WHEN HE GOT OUT HE STARTED SELLING AGAIN.. BUT OTHER THAN THAT IT WAS A GOOD ENTERTAINMENT I DID FIND IT ODD THAT HE DID ALL OF THESE ON A GOVERMENT AIR CRAFT. I THINK YOU MIGHT BE RIGHT UNCLE TOM!!! IT WAS JUST SOMETHING ODD ABOUT THE MOVIE TO ME BUT I WOULDNT BOYCOTT DENZEL DID HE'S DAMN THING.


nyindr

THIE THING THAT PISSED ME OFF WAS STUPID PEOPLE IN THE MOVIE WHO WERE PISSED OFF BECAUSE OF THE SNITCHING.

YOU MISSED THE POINT PEOPLE. THIE MOVIE GIVES YOU AN ILLUSTRATION OF THE INNER CITY DECLINE IN THE 80s. PRIOR TO DRUG RAVAGING INNER CITIES THINGS WERE A LOT DIFFERENT. DRUGS HAVE CREATED A SOCIETY THAT CAN NOT BE FIXED NO MATTER HOW MANY DRUG UNITS ARE CREATED. NO MATTER HOW MANY WELFARE CHECKS ARE PASSED OUT. ITs A PERPETUATED CIRCUMSTANCE THAT CAN ONLY BE ELIMINATED THE SAME WAY YOU CLEAR A HOUSE OF ROACHES. EXTERMINATION


bdsbabydoll

What do you mean by "extermination"?


stingray9

They put those long dollars in front of Denzel and he folded..


diabolicmisses

THE MOVIE WAS GOOD EVERYBODY SHOULD GO OUT AND SEE IT AND SUPPORT IT.. IT WAS WELL WRITTEN AND DENZEL ACTED HIS AZZ OFF.. NUFF SAID


Uncle_Tom

lots of stuff thats good isnt good for you..

Im sure the movie studio appreciates your business...

I think they'll do just fine without my $9.

Im sure you overstand my position on this situation.


soreal

@ Uncle_Tom

I could not agree with your premise that Frank Lucas was a pawn of the CIA. I put two and two together after watching a Hitory Channel show about drugs during Vietnam. They reported, and I am paraphrasing, that there was government involvement when drugs were being sent to the US with the dead bodies of soldiers. Coincedence, I think not.


soreal

ooops... I meant to say that I could not agree with you more...


soreal

One last comment...

I don't think that Uncle_Tom is saying don't support Denzel or that the movie was not well written or directed. What he is saying is do not make Frank Lucas an antihero hero (i.e. Staggerly, Briar Rabbit), which is quite common in black literature. He was a thief and a murderer. I have not seen the movie yet so I cannot say that Frank Lucas is depicted as a hero, but I have been part of conversations with black men who have seen the movie and they are already talking about how cool he (Frank Lucas) was, etc, etc, etc.


bdsbabydoll

If they thought Frank Lucas was cool....they are some dumbasses lol


Uncle_Tom

bdsbabydoll

its difficult for me to say that impressionable young people are stupid based on being up against a multi-trillion dollar mind control media machine(movies, tv, magazines, playstations, newspapers)...

There is big money in media mind controlled and if these young people dont have a solid home life and strong familiy units, they are going to be substantially more prone to succumbing to being HYPNOTYZED by the loud, strong and repeated images put before them as a means of psycho-social conditioing...

Thats why I always say, the first thing they had to destroy was the BLACK FAMILY...They had to tear the family fabric apart and weaken our families so that the media(the hypnotist) becomes the parents. And their media tells us through their STARS, what is cool and what is not cool...

Conscious Hip hop is not cool.. Know why? Because Big Brother says it doesnt sell and its not cool..

If they put as much hype and advertising into Conscious rap AS THEY PUT INTO RIHANNA, would it sell?

Hell yea...They have managed to convice us that Rihanna can sing...That 50 cent is a lyrical genius....That Beyonce has a big azz...

They manipulate ou minds however they please...They can even use their hypnotic electronic hypnosis to convince us that President Bush didnt steal the election and became Americas first dictator...LOL tHATS because they re-directed our minds to where they wanted it to be and CONVINCED US THAT , WHAT WE REALLY WANT TO THINK ABOUT IS THAT 19 arabs with box cutters hijacked planes and flew them into the WTC into a fiery inferno but their paper passports floated down to the ground intact and legible...LOL

Hello?


cat4everrr

uncle tom There is big money in media mind controlled and if these young people dont have a solid home life and strong familiy units, they are going to be substantially more prone to succumbing to being HYPNOTYZED by the loud, strong and repeated images put before them as a means of psycho-social conditioing...

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you hit the nail right on the head..preach


cat4everrr

i don't know...a lot of this sounds a little to much like a conspiracy theory. that doesn't mean that it's not true. it just means that it's something i need to look into. afterall, the tuskegee study is a documented fact

"Beginning in 1932, the federal government sponsored a study to examine the impact of syphilis involving black men. The experiment went on until 1972 without the test subjects' knowledge"

[link to external website]


Uncle_Tom

@cat4everr

all you white people claim everything is a figment of black folks imagination until it comes to the jewish holocaust.


HUEmanbro

UT, don't forget the were able to convince people that terrorist were responsible behind the 911 attacks to they can go over in invade Iraq.


cat4everrr

@ Uncle_Tom

Your attempts to discredit me by calling me white are fruitless. Who gave you authority to say this or that person is no longer allowed to be black? Why don't call out people who come on her pretending to be white? I am actually proud of being a black femal. And you attack me for what, what is my crime- refusing to say that I hate white people? I am not going to surrender to your peer pressure. I have friends of all shades and backgrounds, and I like it. It’s not for you to suggest I only have black friends. Anyway, what is this fascination you have with white people? You would think that America only has two races by listening to you sometimes. Quit agruing with me all the time.


cat4everrr

and that goes for your little bat man and robin side kick to


daddy_hoodrich

Nicky Barnes: “No one should be elevated because of what they did in the drug business. The way we operated—there was a lot of violence, like, ten to twelve homicides, to keep the whole operation running. You can’t glorify that. It’s not something Frank or I would tell any of our children to get into.”

Frank Lucas: “Absolutely right, Nick.”


Uncle_Tom

@cat4everr

I dont know what you te tyoing about..

Im just saying you are a caucasian because you are a caucasian.


Uncle_Tom

"are typing"...about


daddy_hoodrich

"“When I realized they left me on the battlefield to die, I said, “[EXPLETIVE] it!” … I said, “I’ll pull those [EXPLETIVE] in, let them see what it’s like.”… I don’t regret it. I saw this show on CNN, with Anderson Cooper. Cats were talking about “Don’t snitch, no matter what happens.” Well, I can’t see how a guy can be considered strong if he lets a bunch of [EXPLETIVE] walk all over him and he doesn’t respond, just because of some code that a bunch of idiots have cooked up. Anderson Cooper asked this rapper, “Suppose a child was molested and you knew who this molester was. Would you tell the police?” He said, “No.” So that’s what I’m sayin’—the street guidelines are just moron bullshit.“

-Nicky Barnes


cat4everrr

yeah, yeah. verrrrrrrry funny. can you find another whipping boy to take your frustrations out on, i'm getting a litte tired of it. if you don't want to call a truce why don't we agree to you not responding to me anymore, and i won't respond to you anymore. i'm getting tired of fighting with you all the time. deal?


Uncle_Tom

and you are a dishonest caucasian.


cat4everrr

@ daddy_hoodrich

interesting. here's a tid bit that i picked up

Nicky Barnes: I never thought anything like this would happen. When hip-hop first started, everybody - I mean the music entrepreneurs - predicted that hip-hop would be dead in five years. They said, “Those [EXPLETIVE] ain’t gonna make no money.” But hip-hop rolled along, and look what they’re doing now. They got Jay-Z, Damon Dash, Kanye West, 50 Cent. These guys are doing something legitimate.

Frank Lucas: At least Nick knows the names. I don’t know none of them. I know Puffy Combs, because of his father.

Nicky Barnes: Oh, Melvin! Melvin Combs.

Frank Lucas: Melvin used to be at my house a couple of times a week. I’m proud to see Melvin’s son like that.

i'm more likely to give grace to those who didn't start off on an equal playing field. that little tid bit tells me that diddy may not of had a positive father figure


cat4everrr

@ Uncle_Tom

not only am i black but if probaly given more blacks opportunities at a young age than you ever will in a life time. sucka


cat4everrr

make that

@ Uncle_Tom

not only am i black but i've probaly given more blacks opportunities at a young age than you ever will in a life time. sucka

did you not hear me? quit arguing with me all the dang on time


daddy_hoodrich

@cat4everrr

Heroin in the 70's (here in New York City) didnt exactly create an ideal situation for anything positive to survive, manifest, or last..especially amongst black people.

The only good thing to come out of that era was Hip Hop.


Uncle_Tom

@cat4everr

I think you're white...

Tell me something only a black person would know...

What is the difference between "ashy" and "rusty"?


Uncle_Tom

and you black people out there, dont tell her the answer.


Uncle_Tom

but then again her husband is black, so she may know this one...

Once black men sleep with white women, they are forced to give away all our secrets , kinda like Sampson of the bible..


Uncle_Tom

Phuck Frank Lucas, Nicky Barnes and all those CIA funded coons...

Coons paid to destabilize and destroy and disintegrate the black family.

These buck dancin' coons killed and terrorized many a blac family who went to the police in a quest to take the community back from them and send them away to go sell their garbage in the white communities....These coons were working hand in hand with local police and the CIA...

This is where black people REALLY became to become fearful of the police and stopped reporting crimes to them like normal ciizens would because the police were in Harlem and other black communities as AN OCCUPYING FORCE in the same way as the police are in Iraq as an occupying force and not a force to protect and serve like other communities receive for their tax dollar...

The CIA isnt stupid...They know they wouldnt be allowed to sell their drugs in Bensonhurst on the street corners, because the people would be listened to because they are white...Eventually the pipeline of drugs would have been connected to the CIA through Vietnam..

But they knew that black people being third class citizens , our cries for equal protection under the law would fall on deaf ears...

That dope destroyed the black community, with not only the dope itself, but the violence and prostitution that comes with it to those who become enslaved to it.


stingray9

@Unc-down went the Panthers and Move and up went the hopelessness and drugs,cramp living conditions with no proper privacy for our seeds to grow properly, the prison system inturn flourished and the politians,and cops got media kudos for being tough on crime (blackpeople).

Seeing something like this movie is once again like rooting for your own demise.American cinema is soooo suductive.


daddy_hoodrich

@ "Seeing something like this movie is once again like rooting for your own demise."

I disagree. Any smart youth, or youth whith any thoughts about becoming a "druglord" can clearly see where this path leads.

IMO the film did NOT glorify the lifestyle of a drug kingpin, nor did it celebrate the life of Frank Lucas.

We can go back and forth and call these men out for helping to fuel drugs into the black communities. But can we place the blame solely on them?

Nope.

If WE - the people who live in these neighborhoods allow this destructive cycle to continue, we are just as guilty as being a "buck dancin' coon".


cat4everrr

Uncle Tom

I can't even have breakfast with my family and come back without you talking smack. I tried to come to an amicable resolution with you but I see you are not willing to try. So now I’m going to have to ask you not to reply to any more of my comments

Kindly, Cat


Uncle_Tom

daddy hoodrich

absolute bullshyt...

The CIA used black neighborhoods as a conduit of their filth simply because they could...

Just like a police officer could stop you in your car and pull you over and handcuff you and beat you with his billy club and charge you with resisting arrest anytime they feel like it...Because they can...If you are lucky and you dont have brain damage you may eventually be able to spend thousands of dollars to get out of jail, but you would have lost everything you have worked towards in your life....

When you are behind enemy lines, you are behind enemy lines.


Uncle_Tom

And our oppressors view us as the enemy, even though we have never did a thing to them...

They hate us because we are a daily reminder of their historical fraud.


cat4everrr

daddy_hoodrich

my views are in line with your, stingray does make some good points


stingray9

When Melvin Van Peoples came out with his movie Sweetback the movie was so beloved by the Black Panthers that it was used as a required learning tool for Panthers.

Because of the revolutionary message that the movie was having on the Panthers and the black community at large- Hollywood scrambled to come up with a black genre alternative minus the Pro-Black messages and wala shaft and superfly were born. They still hated and distrusted “the man” but they were going for self and not community. Black ghetto superhero’s with no Pro-black affiliation and politically defunct


cat4everrr

daddy_hoodrich Heroin in the 70's (here in New York City) didnt exactly create an ideal situation for anything positive to survive, manifest, or last..especially amongst black people.

------ mmmmmm, fair enough. i can't say that i buy into it 100 percent, but i'm with you 85 percent of the way


Uncle_Tom

daddy hoodrich

And you say "We allow what happens with these drug dealers like Frank Lucas to happen"

Not true my friend...

Many many people came forward and come forward to the police and after they came forwards they get a visit from the enforcers of the drug dealers to threaten them, and their families with death of injury...

maybe you are a little slow, so I'll put this in caps...

THE POLICE AND THE FEDERAL GOV'T WERE WORKING HAND IN HAND WITH THEIR EMPLOYEES(THE STREET LEVEL DRUG DEALERS)...THAT MADE IT VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO PUT A STOP TO IT OTHER THAN FORMING VIGILANTE GROUPS TO STOP THEM....AND FORMING VIGILANTE GROUPS WOULD HAVE BASICALLY MEANT YOU WERE WAGING WAR AGAINST THE POLICE AND THE FEDERAL GOV'T WHICH IS TREASON...

get it now?


cat4everrr

@ stingray9

if that's true, i wonder if the reasoning behind it was the same as the reason for not putting out positive rap figures. Reason being they feel it won't sell


Uncle_Tom

thats where "NO SNITCHING" became a safety mechanism for survival and protecting your family from reprisal...

And you couldnt go to Charlies Rangel because he was also working with the Federal Gov't...The only thing he would do was do something unproductive and which he knew was bullspit like bring in more corrupt cops to make the community feel like they were even more in a war zone...It was a Conspiracy starting at the Federal level.


daddy_hoodrich

At one point do we say enough is enough and take control of our destinies?

Year after year, after decade, after generation we constantly blame others for our demise. We talk the same s h i t citing stories and theories (be they true, or far fetched) about how the Govt systematically is breaking down the black family, police are evil, or putting drugs in the community.

Okay, we know this..now what? Do we continue preaching to the pulpit on a daymn GOSSIP message board?

(laughing)

Overall we have become complacent. We get a good job, house, car and such and the majority of us feel that we made it"!

The only way [EXPLETIVE] is going to change, is if we lose our freedom again - and we will. Its already happening systematically - but at a snails pace - so that by the time the process is complete, we wont even realize we are slaves once again.

In 2007 and beyond, todays young generation simply cannot and will NEVER overstand the struggles that came before them.

Malcolm has been reduced to a picture and a quote "By Any Means Nessesary", and Martin has been reduced to "I Have A Dream".

We cant forget our past, but we really need to look harder at the present, in order to find a solution for future. Whatever we are doing now, is NOT working. What we did back in the 60's, is not really applicable in 2007.

In the bigger spectrum of things, IMHO, boycotting this movie (entertainment) is more of a personal choice.

It not going to change the fact that until we stop ignorance within out communities, and go through generation of RE-EDUCATION , "Frank Lucas" will always exist.


cat4everrr

@ daddy_hoodrich

Awww Man, YOU PREACHING NOW


Uncle_Tom

what the smart people did was to get a moving truck, pack their familes belongings and got the hell up out of there...

For those who couldnt, they just couldnt...But the only reason why you couldnt was because you didnt tap into your creative minds.


cat4everrr

@ daddy_hoodrich

i gotta find a post from yesterday that basically said the same thing, forgetting where we have come as a people


Uncle_Tom

We havent had any freedom since my people came here in chains... How are you going to have freedom if you dont have land? Your own land.


Uncle_Tom

And what is this phenomenon with all these white people coming into black websites and such pretending they are black...Is this a new form of cyber-COINTELPRO, updated for the computer age?

A way to mentally white wash and manipulate public opinion to get more inline with the Matrix door keepers? LOL


Uncle_Tom

iM SURE the powers that be realize how powerful and independent a medium the internet is and until they are able to regulate it and control it the way they like, this is the best way they can try to confuse and dilute Black Consciousness.


daddy_hoodrich

"what the smart people did was to get a moving truck, pack their familes belongings and got the hell up out of there..."

Honestly, when I head to work or the store every day, and see the blatant disrespect, ignorance and dumb ish that happens here in the projects on the daily?..I want to leave and never come back.

And thats me being honsest. After 19 years in the PJs, thats what smart people do..get the fluck out..

I need to be smarter..


daddy_hoodrich

"We havent had any freedom since my people came here in chains... How are you going to have freedom if you dont have land? Your own land."

So owning a Range Rover doesnt count as ownership? Holdin' down the block dosnt count as ownership?

(laughing)

I hear you UT..


Uncle_Tom

Black People...

Your mind and your latent spiritual powers are much more vital to how this turns out than you may think...

Everybody wants control over your mind and they are getting weaker and running out of ways to control you...

Soon they are just going to let the "cat" out of the bag and drop Blackwater Security on your streets and declare martial law...Then you'll have to eat what they say, drink what they say and live where they say and you'll be assigned work projects in various work camps across the country...But FOX NEWS wont call them Concentration Camps...They'll have a pretty name for them...

Wake Up. This Shyt Is Real!


HUEmanbro

The internet is the only thing we have far as freedom of speech,but I see they're trying to get rid of that. I got banned on diffrent sites for speaking my mind.


stingray9

cat4everrr Flag post

@ stingray9

if that's true, i wonder if the reasoning behind it was the same as the reason for not putting out positive rap figures. Reason being they feel it won't sell.

@cat,yes it was mentioned earlier that Pro-black Conscious Hip-Hop could still sell if they so choosed to market it properly.

They also told Melvin that there was no market for his type of politics...what excuse me......we are talking 1971 talk about unbelievable lies.

@daddyhoodrich-I'd like to hear your ultimate solution for countering this whitesupremacy powerstructure?


Uncle_Tom

@daddyhoodrick

Yea , lets hold down the block.. I'll wear a blue scarf and you wear a red scarf and that'll be our turf ....We just have to wait in line and hope that the Tractor Trailer brings in food to the Supermarket so we can have the strength to protect our turf...

We free as long as that shipment of Captain Vrunch continues to make it in and as long as decide we can have water piped in to us.


HUEmanbro

lol @ UT I noticed that all blacks are moving back to the south and that new boondocks episode where they build an electric fence around the poor black neighborhood so they couldn't get out reminds of what they are going to do.


stingray9

For anyone who hasn't read Blackwater it is a must read.


HUEmanbro

@stingray9, what is it about and who is the author?


daddy_hoodrich

@stingray9

Its sad that "consiousness" or "positivity" should even require a marketing stratgy.

Thats like tricking a person into seeing the benefit of NOT dousing one's self with gasoline, and striking a match. LOL!

My ultimate solution for countering this white supremacy power structure?

Hahaha!...unfortuantly my solution is illegal, and might get me life. (laughing)


cat4everrr

daddy_hoodrich Flag post

"what the smart people did was to get a moving truck, pack their familes belongings and got the hell up out of there..."

Honestly, when I head to work or the store every day, and see the blatant disrespect, ignorance and dumb ish that happens here in the projects on the daily?..I want to leave and never come back.

And thats me being honsest. After 19 years in the PJs, thats what smart people do..get the fluck out..

I need to be smarter..

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you telling it right. sometimes i wonder about some of these rappers. if they are really from the ghetto, the foremost thing on their mind would be how am i gonna get the heck out, they wouldn't gloryify it. you are soooooo right.


cat4everrr

@ stingray9

is blackwater a book about the defense contractor in iraq named blackwater?


stingray9

What's up Hue-I thought about the book when Uncle Tom mentioned Blackwater Security "private firm". It's about an elite paid for hire mercenary force that is extremely vicious and growing very fast here and abroad.(training grounds in florida and on both coasts) Google-Blackwater-they are mischief makers in Iraqi and other hot spots. They start scurmishes in so-called peaceful zones causing american troops to get fired on.Dr Khalid warned of them growing when he came out to here to the west coast.


Uncle_Tom

The so-called Gangster Rappers are actors and they are on the payroll to destroy us just as Frank Lucas and those types were.....

Their job is to glorify drugs...They are doing the COMMERICAL FOR CRACK AND CRACK DEALING...They're the actors, just like Denzel was paid to make Frank Lucas seem cool..

And some of you say, but the movie showed where you'll end up...

Where do you end up though when you betray your own people for personal gain? With Denzel Washington playing you on a 100 million dollar movie and you living lavishly somewhere being protected by the CIA and you coming to the movie set in a stretch limo;) LOL


Uncle_Tom

sOME one should have did like that brave elder did in that movie New Jack City and sent Frank Lucas to heaven for working with the enemy to destroy us.


Uncle_Tom

HueManBro

For all those who can see and sense what is happening, the wise are leaving and have left the major cities and migrated to smaller cities with independent sources of water or have obtaine at least a few acres and have dug a nice well

Can you really imagine being at the mercy of FEMA , living in NY, LA, Chicago, etc?

It will be like a science fiction movie.


stingray9

@cat-I see you still hanging huh bobbing and weaving yes "defense contractor" sounds pretty generic though.


Uncle_Tom

daddy hoodrich

you dont live in no goddam projects.

I smell what you're cooking...

You live in the projects and Im Dick Cheney....LOL


prettylatina

This is off the subject everyone, but I am listening ot LIBradio now and they are discussing the manipulation of the Pharmacutical Companies and how they have brainwashed us into thinking that these Rx and non Rx drugs are the way to "cure" us. Its all BS and I have been saying this for the longest. Rx drugs do more harm then good. *Sorry eveyone, just wanted to bring this up, continue your convo*


stingray9

Come on daddyhoodrich- after that long disertation you gave us you got to come better than that man.


cat4everrr

stingray9 Flag post

@cat-I see you still hanging huh bobbing and weaving ---

it ain't with some people

stingray9 Flag post

"defense contractor" sounds pretty generic though. -----

"defense contractor" in the sense that their money has been appropriated via DOD


cat4everrr

stingray9 Flag post

@cat-I see you still hanging huh bobbing and weaving ---

it ain't easy with some people


cat4everrr

DOD= department of defense


HUEmanbro

thanks @stingray......

HueManBro

For all those who can see and sense what is happening, the wise are leaving and have left the major cities and migrated to smaller cities with independent sources of water or have obtaine at least a few acres and have dug a nice well

Can you really imagine being at the mercy of FEMA , living in NY, LA, Chicago, etc?

It will be like a science fiction movie

@ UT, the movie "Escape from NY" comes to my mind when I think about what you just said.


daddy_hoodrich

@Uncle_Tom

I'm not proud of it, but yep. I do. Pink Houses, East New York. Brooklyn...not the ideal place to raise a family but it's home for now

@stingray9 If I had a solution, I certainly wouldnt be on a message board starting a revolution. (grin)


Uncle_Tom

@daddy hoodrich isnt going to offer any real solutions...

Hes here to blame the victim, which is the great American passtime, after baseball...

They call is REVERSE PSYCHOLOGY.


Uncle_Tom

tHE only revolution one needs to start is the INTERNAL REVOLUTION...

WATCH OUT for people who try to insinute some physical confrontation with the Gov't....They are suspect and in most cases they are agent provokateurs, placed among us to bait someone into tryin to do something stupid enough to give them an opening to implement martial law on us....

The only revolution we need is to learn to reactivate your latent mental nd spiritual powers....After you do that, then ALL things will be possible...Without that, then we'll be goinig around in circles until they decide to pull the plug on us...

Watch you back...


mocha_luv

HAVE ANY OF YALL WATCHED THE SIMPSONS, FAMILY GUY, SMURFS (BACK IN THE DAY), LADY AND THE TRAMP

THEY ARE ALLLLLLLLL LIES...ANIMALS DONT TALK, NOR DO SMURFS OR LITTLE YELLOW PEOPLE....BUT, DO YOU BOYCOTT THAT TOO...ENTERTAINMENT PEOPLE...LIGHTEN UP! YOU CANT PUT EVERY HISTORICAL ASPECT IN A MOVIE OR IT WILL BE 18 HOURS LONG...IF THERE IS A LESSON LEARNED THEN SO BE IT...IF THE MOVIE ASSIST ANOTHER IMPRESSIONABLE YOUNG BLACK MAN TO NOT TURN TO A LIFE OF CRIME AND DRUGS THEN WHY TARE IT DOWN IF A "TRUE" AND "VALUED" LESSON IS LEARNED.

WELL IM OUT...GOTTA GO TO CHURCH...YEP, YEP...CHURCH! HOLLA AT ME DEMONS!


Uncle_Tom

mocha luv

ignorance isnt a virtue in the information age...

It may have been cute 800 years ago, but now its just plain sad...

What you are doing is like a "D" student doing an end zone dance at graduation.


mocha_luv

thank you Uncle Tom...I take that as a compliment...heyyyyyyyyyy at least I graduated!


Uncle_Tom

and lets not get it twisted and get false information out..

I said I WAS BOYCOTTING THE MOVIE and I hope I was able to communicate a resonable and logical explanation for my boycott....I do have some degree of clout over my family and thats about it...I sat my children down and explained to them about the connection between the CIA and the explosion of illegal narcotics in African American communities historically and I showed them factual proof....Now they share the info with their friends who did see the movie so they are making a positive difference...They can see other movies....We have a whole collection of Nigerian movies and Indian movies which tell great stories and are much more believable.


cat4everrr

@ mocha_luv

ditto


Uncle_Tom

mocha luv

Yes, the elite like their sheep well trained in order to carry out their orders to further white supremacy globally...

Whats the use of being educated if you arent going to use your education to tell the truth?

There is no difference between an educated lie and an uneduated lie...

Both are lies.


Uncle_Tom

Its Shoooooooowtime!


HUEmanbro

Ut, they are talking about the dollar on PBS now and how people should start investing in gold.


HUEmanbro

The fall of the dollar on PBS Now


daddy_hoodrich

(laughing)

UT's "swipe" at me is just one of the many reasons why on a whole, we cant seem to get our s.h.i.t together.

We question and or doubt each others credibility, and or stories. We reject the notion that we may actually have a lot in common, and attempt to distance ourselves. We name call, categorize and at times present a holier-than-thou attitude when someone may not overstand, or be in the same frame of mind. We withold information, from those we deem "not worthy" or "enlightened" enough. We can be very judgmental people - and maybe for valid reasons, but im not gonna swipe at someone or entice confrontation when there really isn't any.

Realistically, if I had something to prove, and was 21 years young - I would open my window, and take a digital picture as proof of where I reside, but would that make me any more credible? Nah..it wouldnt.

To re-iterate a lil' something I said earlier, If I - or anyone here - had a solution to the state of black America, and the f u c k e d-up conditions we find ourselves in I would hope, the virtual world is the LAST place we would concentrate our efforts.

A lotta kids and adults dont use a computer outside of MySpace or email at work.

Oh, and just to further show how many of US have ish in common, for those who desire, google WHCR 90.3FM - NY. I host and produce a talk radio show on a community station based in Harlem.

I try and be pro-active outside of a message board, and reach those in real time, not just those who are internet savy. Some of you may recall a post here that stated, its easy to pretend here in cyberspace, so a lotta [EXPLETIVE] I have to take with a grain of salt, until I can research the truth.

..and the truth is not a youtube video, or a www.

(eff it, insert swipe here. steps off milk crate on sutter & euclid )

:)


cat4everrr

daddy_hoodrich

i'm gonna check out our show, is their a live internet steam. you really know how to kick the knowledge. feels good to have black guys like you out there


cat4everrr

sorry about the mistypes, kids got some sticky stuff on the key board so the keys stick sometimes. i meant-

i'm gonna check out your show, is their a live internet stream. you really know how to kick the knowledge. feels good to have black guys like you out there


daddy_hoodrich

@cat4everrr. In addition to broadcasting on FM radio here in NYC, yep we do broadcast online.

live stream: [link to external website]

Sunday 12:00 PM - 3:00 PM THE COMMUNICATORS hosts: LEROY BAYLOR, CINQUE BRAITHWAITE & SHERRANCE HENDERSON

Monday 8:00 - 9:00 AM Harlem Live host: Iesha Sekou

9:00 - 10:00 AM Respect for Life host; Leroy Baylor

Teen Talk 4:00 - 5:00 PM

Tuesday 4:00 - 5:00 PM Urbanology - The Art of War hosts: Tony Rogers, Arn Ashwood & Audrey Adams

7:00 - 8:00 PM Taking Care of Business in Harlem Valerie Babb

8:00 - 12:00 AM True School - Musical Journey host: the Legendary AND FOUNDER OF HIP HOP - Afrika Bambaata.


daddy_hoodrich

The difference between me, the Uncle Toms, HUEman's, and various internet preachers is - I and various friends connect with today’s generation.

I would never say what people who don't think like me, or think like we do - are wrong. Misguided maybe, but certainly not wrong.

I would never simply say “oh, you a sheep and caught up in the matrix”, and leave them out to dry.

I's rather help my peeps (young and old who are willing to hear me speak) see the light, or a new perspective instead of brushing them off, or accusing them of boolicking, or coonery, or (__________insert whatever here). I'm not in their shoes, so I dont know why they did what the did.

Each one teach one, and hopefully for the better.

We need positive re-enforcement, NOT messages of impending doom, or harsh criticism from our elders.


HUEmanbro

That undeducated,illiterate fool is proud of the damage he did to the black community. Black people should not glorify this man or movie. just my opinion.


daddy_hoodrich

That "undeducated,illiterate fool" is NOT proud of the damage he did to the black community.

Its shame you fed into the white America movie hype, and never bothered to read the recent article / conversation between Frank Lucas and Nicky Barnes.

Reading (and comprehension) is fundamental:

A Conversation Between Frank Lucas and Nicky Barnes [link to external website]

NB: No one should be elevated because of what they did in the drug business. The way we operated—there was a lot of violence, like, ten to twelve homicides, to keep the whole operation running. You can’t glorify that. It’s not something Frank or I would tell any of our children to get into.

NB: Heroin wreaked a lot of havoc and a lot of pain in the black community. I shouldn’t have done it. Maybe I was aware, but I just didn’t give a [EXPLETIVE]. I wanted to make money, and that’s what I did. Looking back, I wouldn’t have made those decisions, but it’s a hell of a lot different and much easier to sanitize yourself after the fact.


Uncle_Tom

that illiterate old negro is mumbling a whole lot of yin yang but I bet he wont ever name General so and so or Captain so and so, or former Sec. of State Colin Powell or whatever he was given to repay him for his part in the Vietnam heroin trade..

YES COLIN POWELL....! hes one of them too.

Dubyas cousin...!


stl3faw

Uncle Tom,

I can not agree with you more. I saw the movie two weeks ago. First coincidence was that the movie was bootlegged in the black community and an acutual good version of the movie downloaded straight from the Oscars website. I have never seen a movie jacked like that the week before it was to release in theaters in such good quality....then yes the whole movie was well written but I totally believe it was something up with the military helping him get drugs into US and no one finding out about it. Pretty much everything you said sums up my opinion of the whole movie...Your analysis was so clear and concise.


stl3faw

Oh yeah and my people need to be a shame of themselves....People were actually like I don't like the way it ended cause he got caught. Give me a break. I could not belive folks were putting this jerk on a pedestal.


JukeBox

for goodness sakes, its JUST A DAMN MOVIE!!

@ Uncle_Tom,

get a life and get a job! a REAL one!


mocha_luv

Uncle_Tom Flag post

mocha luv

Yes, the elite like their sheep well trained in order to carry out their orders to further white supremacy globally...

Whats the use of being educated if you arent going to use your education to tell the truth?

There is no difference between an educated lie and an uneduated lie...

Both are lies.

ABSOLUTELY! SO, MY POINT IS, WHY WATCH ANYTHING AT ALL MOST EVERYTHING HAS LIES OF SOME SORT EVEN THE CARTOONS

SO, YOU SAY YOU ARE BOYCOTTING THE MOVIE BECAUSE OF LIES...BUT MY QUESTION IS, IF PEOPLE DONT WATCH, HOW WILL THEY EVER KNOW IT WAS A LIE...IF NO ONE EVER WATCHED THE MOVIE, THEN NO ONE WOULD KNOW LIES WERE TOLD...ON THE FLIP SIDE, WHY NOT WATCH IT SO YOUNGSTERS CAN KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN REAL AND A FALLACY? THAT'S MY ONLY POINT...

IM SURE YOU WONT AGREE AS USUAL BUT HELL, IM ENTITLED TO MY OWN OPINION.


D

loved the movie. Ofcourse they couldnt show how the real deal. The movie was a little watered down on how he was. I love anything that makes the sooo smart white folks look like fools


Uncle_Tom

@mocha luv

How does one respond to such amusing, scattered,incoherent drivel as you just wrote in your above post?

you arent smoking weed, are you? Because I wouldnt think a sober person would dare write something so ridiculous.


JukeBox

@ UT

one question, how are you going to boycott the movie, if you already seen it? jus wondering


Lis

This story is not a lie. They did a documentary with the actual Frank Lucas. He's just as crazy now as he was back in the 70's. He even went as far to say that they should do an American Ganster part 2,3,4, and 5!